| [2009/12/14 09:18:44] @ Log started by gepetto | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:18:44] <ch> anyone seen 'gem install passenger' fail with this: | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:18:58] <ch> ERROR: While executing gem ... (ArgumentError) marshal data too short | ||
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| [2009/12/14 14:27:17] @ Topic is "http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet" | ||
| [2009/12/14 14:27:17] @ Topic set by ReinH on Wed Sep 09 18:22:10 -0400 2009 | ||
| [2009/12/14 14:28:00] @ Mode +tnc by jordan.freenode.net | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:55:45] <ReinH> Volcane: ping | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:59:15] <Volcane> lo | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:06:03] <ReinH> Volcane: Dashboard 0.1.0 released :D | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:06:11] <ReinH> go play with it | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:06:22] <Volcane> I saw :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:06:25] <ReinH> sweetness | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:06:26] <Volcane> but plaing with somehting else atm | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:06:31] <ReinH> no worries | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:11:00] <Volcane> screenies looks nice though :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:33:55] <ReinH> sweet :) thanks | ||
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| [2009/12/14 16:55:02] * Volcane hates making screen casts | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:43:30] <stahnma> ReinH: two the of the links on the release blog entry are 404s | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:43:37] <stahnma> for Dashboard | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:43:57] <stahnma> looks like a / wasn't parsed quite correctly | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:44:16] <stahnma> Under Resources --> get the source code | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:44:29] <stahnma> and "Puppet Dashboard Ticket Tracker" | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:56:39] <ReinH> stahnma: thanks! | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:57:29] <nigelk> jamesturnbull: you around? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:57:38] <nigelk> or anyone else who has a grasp of when 0.25.2 is likely to drop? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:57:51] <nigelk> We're trying to decide whether to backport patches to the debian debs at the moment | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:58:00] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: yeah | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:58:14] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: not sure - I had hoped before the end of the year | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:58:19] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: that might still be feasible | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:58:21] <ReinH> stahnma: fixed, thanks again | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:58:29] <nigelk> ok. it's hard getting things done this time of year | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:58:39] * Volcane 's dead against os packages being some weird mid version + patches if it matters :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:58:41] <nigelk> I'm still recovering from 2 days offsite in Vegas | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:59:03] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: you get a GOogle phone? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:59:05] <nigelk> Volcane: I'm generally against it too... but with a decent CHANGELOG it's not too bad | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:59:18] <Volcane> nigelk: its hard to support | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:59:27] <nigelk> I cannot confirm nor deny the existence of a phone that may or may not be the result of the fevered imagination of TechCrunch/ValleyWag | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:59:32] <Volcane> nigelk: it will add debian users to the ubuntu users for ones i wont even try to help | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:59:41] <jamesturnbull> lol | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:00:30] <Volcane> nigelk: and i think patched puppet in debian is one of the massive evils that the first maintainer broad to the table :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:00:33] <jamesturnbull> so that'd be a yes | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:00:42] <nigelk> Volcane: yeah. We're just hitting a deadline soon for what will get frozen for the next Ubuntu LTS | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:00:45] <Volcane> though they went a bit further and added weird and wonderful facts i think | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:00:54] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: I agree with Volcane and you know when that happens it must be true :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:01:02] <nigelk> Volcane: we're really just vanilla now for Debian, which is what Ubuntu gets | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:01:22] <Volcane> dont break it :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:01:53] <nigelk> then get 0.25.2 out before Ubuntu Lucid freezes ;) | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:01:58] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: what's the drop date? | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:01:59] <nigelk> kthxbye | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:02:13] <nigelk> looking up now, I'm lost in a maze of twisty little calendars, all alike. | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:04:05] <nigelk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule Feb 11th looks to be the hard deadline | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:04:17] <nigelk> but given we need packaging/testing time before that.... | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:05:37] <nigelk> the main one our users on debian are complaining about is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2789 | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:08:06] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: so what date do you need a release on? | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:08:11] <jamesturnbull> approx | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:09:42] <nigelk> so we need 10 days to get from unstable to testing, which brings us back to Feb 1st | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:09:56] <nigelk> and we really need a fair bit of time to test and iterate, 30 days? so Jan 1st ? | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:12:15] <nigelk> This is more time than we'd normally need, but given the whole upcoming LTS release and the holiday period.... | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:21:06] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: that's going to be ... tricky | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:21:20] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: 15th might be more feasible | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:21:45] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: especially as I am away from the 12/28 to 01/10 | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:26:36] <jamesturnbull> nigelk: I've sent an email to luke et al for some discussion | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:26:40] <nigelk> yep, just replied | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:27:01] <nigelk> I'm actually away from 21/12 to 05/01 as well | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:27:23] <jamesturnbull> I think asking ror an exemption now might bea good idea | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:28:00] <nigelk> yeah, we'll start that process | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:43:06] <nigelk> btw we've got a debian puppet pkg bug scrub in two days, and told people to just jump into #puppet-dev if they want to help, as it's only going to be a couple of us. | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:43:22] <nigelk> if it gets annoying, we'll find another channel, but it seemed worth trying to harness the wisdom of the existing channel while we can | ||
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| [2009/12/14 20:38:52] <hacim> Volcane: its true that the first debian puppet maintainer did patch the debian source. but that was done in ways that were not done very well. however since then it has been routine to cherry-pick fixes from the stabilization branch into the debian packages when they resolved bad issues. | ||
| [2009/12/14 20:39:41] <hacim> Volcane: and that worked well, especially when it was clearly documented, and well tested, and came from puppet development sources and tickets that were closed... much different from what you were referring to | ||
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| [2009/12/14 20:41:26] <hacim> there certainly is a gamble there, but it would be unfortunate to ship a broken package in a LTS release, when there are signed-off and checked-in fixes for those issues in the tracker | ||
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