| [2010/03/13 00:00:05] @ Log started by gepetto | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:00:05] <joe-mac> yea for now i would disable it, just to get rid of that annoying error | ||
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| [2010/03/13 00:00:47] <robbles> I think it's off by default anyways, this is the debian default configuration | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:01:13] <joe-mac> yea, debian's defaults are braindead | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:01:22] <joe-mac> for, nearly everything | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:03:26] <joe-mac> looks alright at first glance doubleukay | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:04:55] <doubleukay> ok, lemme figure out how to fit this into a erb.. | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:05:55] <joe-mac> just wrap the interfaces.each block inside <% %> that's pretty much it | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:07:02] <joe-mac> and the print of course, but you wanna print Listen ipaddress, or however the syntax for powerdns is | ||
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| [2010/03/13 00:15:57] <spackest> so, is there a canonical home for puppet recipes? | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:16:06] <doubleukay> great, got it sorted out. yeah I see what you mean by "wrapping it inside <% %> now. | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:16:13] <spackest> I have seen the wiki but it seems a little hit and miss | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:16:25] <doubleukay> the print statement doesn't print into the config file though | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:16:34] <spackest> like a "canonical" recipe for getting java | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:16:47] <doubleukay> so I had a <%= => line after that | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:16:51] <spackest> or tomcat5.5 or tomcat6? | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:17:23] <spackest> we're about to dive into puppet at work and I am pondering starting a google code project to hold our recipes | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:18:17] <spackest> but if there is a good one out there, we could build on that | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:20:00] <spackest> I found this | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:20:01] <spackest> http://code.google.com/p/puppet-manifest-share/ | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:20:01] <spackest> but it isn't so hot | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:20:08] <spackest> at least from what I can tell | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:20:49] <spackest> crickets? really? guess it is late | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:21:15] <bodepd> we are releases the forge in a few weeks. | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:21:39] <bodepd> wow, I cant type. too late. | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:21:49] <spackest> that's what I was saying :) | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:21:55] <spackest> the forge? | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:22:23] <bodepd> yeah, it'll be our repo so the world can share their modules. | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:22:27] <robbles> I found http://www.example42.com:811/ and http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/CompleteConfiguration | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:22:31] <joe-mac> spackest: there are lots of ways to skin a cat and everybody thinks theirs is the best | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:22:52] <joe-mac> it's difficult tomake 'standard' modules | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:22:59] * hacim raises eyebrows at joe-mac | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:23:12] <spackest> yeah, I was pondering all the many ways folks would want tomcat installed and would be hard to do that in general | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:23:31] <hacim> joe-mac: what default do you think should be on in debian? | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:23:54] <spackest> port 811, huh? first for me | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:24:20] <joe-mac> hacim: i don't really understand the question | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:24:33] <hacim> joe-mac> yea, debian's defaults are braindead | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:24:50] <spackest> would just be nice if folks could get along a bit | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:25:49] <hacim> I'm guessing pluginsync? | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:25:58] <joe-mac> hacim: i was talking about debian in general | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:26:33] <joe-mac> i loathe it, and the slightly more polished turdy version, ubuntu, both of which i have caused me to accept low softwre quality as a way of life | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:26:44] <joe-mac> a mantra maybe? | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:26:45] <hacim> joe-mac: off by default is actually preferred by more people than on by default | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:26:59] <joe-mac> yes i prefer that particulart option off | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:27:09] <joe-mac> it is on in debian and causes errors on start, at least that's how it used to be | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:27:10] <hacim> ok... | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:27:22] <hacim> which option are you referring to now? | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:27:23] <joe-mac> i've been rolling my own now to keep up with the times | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:27:43] <spackest> I am just a big perl / cpan fan and it would be nice to have an analogue here | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:27:44] <joe-mac> that's the one we were talking about, that comment about debian is just in general | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:28:05] <joe-mac> and spawned as a child remark from pluginsync giving him errors | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:29:46] <hacim> so you think pluginsync should be disabled by default | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:30:33] <joe-mac> correct | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:31:00] <joe-mac> errors freak people out, especially if they happen on first use | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:31:06] <hacim> i agree | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:32:00] <robbles> what distro do you like, joe-mac? | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:32:31] <hacim> joe-mac: the way to have that fixed is to suggest it | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:32:47] <joe-mac> the way things are headed, not really much at this point. RHEL5 was alright when i got to use it | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:34:43] <joe-mac> as i get older i appreciate the simplicity of openbsd more and more actually, i just wish it had a more automagic packaging sy stem | ||
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| [2010/03/13 00:35:01] <hacim> joe-mac: well i've suggested that change for you, nothing changes unless you change it yourself | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:35:34] <cowbud> is there a way for me to say package { java: ensure => latest, force=> true} ? I am looking for a way for me to basically tell APT not to prompt me for anything and just install things | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:35:45] <cowbud> like adding --force-yes | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:35:49] <joe-mac> to a degree | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:36:08] <cowbud> if I could add custom options to apt for particular packages that would be awesome | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:36:10] <joe-mac> cowbud: that comment wasn't for you. what you want to do is use preseed files to automate installations | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:36:18] <joe-mac> that's about as good as it gets | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:36:23] <joe-mac> look at the 'responsefile' parameter | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:36:52] <cowbud> joe-mac: nice checking it out | ||
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| [2010/03/13 00:46:33] <cowbud> is there a way to say require this part of the class to always run first? like always install packages first? Instead of having requires on all packages for those pacakges? | ||
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| [2010/03/13 00:55:40] <joe-mac> no | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:55:52] <cowbud> bummer oh well I guess it is for the best that way it is clear what is going on | ||
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| [2010/03/13 00:57:46] <robbles> is there a way to set puppet up in "push" mode? i.e. do something on the server to initiate work on all/some clients | ||
| [2010/03/13 00:59:23] <robbles> I think puppetrun will work, but I'm not sure how to stop puppetd from periodically checking with the server | ||
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| [2010/03/13 01:02:48] <robbles> oh, duh. nevermind, I checked the man page | ||
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| [2010/03/13 01:09:44] <joe-mac> a lot of people run it from cron with --ontime | ||
| [2010/03/13 01:09:47] <joe-mac> --onetime** | ||
| [2010/03/13 01:13:31] <robbles> hm, puppetrun doesn't seem to have --noop | ||
| [2010/03/13 01:15:11] <robbles> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/864 still open | ||
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| [2010/03/13 09:44:48] <monachus_> when i implemented storedconfigs i had to flip my puppetmasters to run as root. i'm using the mongrel/apache setup with puppetmasters running under daemontools | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:45:04] <monachus_> i'd like to flip that to using Passenger, but i'm wondering if the whole "root only storedconfigs" thing will break | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:45:26] <monachus_> anyone here using storedconfigs+apache+passenger and successfully running as puppet user? | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:46:43] <duritong> why did you need to flip? | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:46:51] <monachus_> honestly, i don't remember right now. | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:46:56] <duritong> puppetmaster should always run as user puppet | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:47:08] <duritong> so maybe you should fix that first | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:47:12] <monachus_> no - there was a specific problem with storedconfigs that is only solved by running as root. | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:47:27] <duritong> not that I'm aware of | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:47:35] <duritong> is there a ticket about that? | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:48:05] <duritong> I have different puppetmasters using stored configs and none ever required to run as root | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:48:51] <duritong> btw: passenger will always run the master either as apache-user or as puppet user (depending on the owner of the config.ru file). never as root | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:49:01] <monachus_> yes, i know. hence my question. | ||
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| [2010/03/13 09:50:34] <duritong> therefor I would suggest to first fix your current setup so that it will run not as root | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:50:47] <duritong> and then transition should be more or less straight forward | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:51:02] <monachus_> appreciate the guidance, but i didn't end up here by accident. | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:51:12] <monachus_> i'll break it again and then recreate the issue so i can share it with you. | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:52:44] <duritong> yeah | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:52:55] <duritong> I hope to be able to help you | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:53:07] <duritong> what kind of backend are you using? | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:53:13] <monachus_> mysql | ||
| [2010/03/13 09:53:16] <duritong> ok | ||
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| [2010/03/13 10:01:25] <monachus_> warning: /Settings[/etc/puppet/puppet-qa.conf]/Settings[puppetmasterd]/File[/var/www/localhost/puppet-qa/var/yaml]/owner: Cannot manage ownership unless running as root | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:01:34] <monachus_> for that and a bunch of other files. | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:02:06] <monachus_> so like i said, i didn't end up running it as root by accident. puppet told me to. | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:02:18] <monachus_> and i do what puppetmaster says. :P | ||
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| [2010/03/13 10:03:01] <monachus_> duritong: ping | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:03:17] <duritong> pong | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:03:30] <duritong> that is a warning | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:03:35] <duritong> you can ignore it | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:03:42] <duritong> and it should soon go away | ||
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| [2010/03/13 10:04:11] <monachus_> interesting. so just ignore it, eh? | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:04:30] <duritong> yeah | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:04:45] <monachus_> cool. solves a bunch of problems. | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:04:46] <monachus_> tx. | ||
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| [2010/03/13 10:10:11] <duritong> np | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:10:17] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet Modules edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetModules?version=45 | ||
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| [2010/03/13 10:33:52] <abien> id like to copy a bunch of files (filesnames in an array) via file{} to a destination. http://ruby.pastebin.com/LsCe4LLk | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:34:19] <abien> This causes an error: err: //nagios::client/File[/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/contrib/check_mem.pycheck_open_files.pl] | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:36:35] <hggh> abien: this does not work. Why you don't copy the whole directory to the server? | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:37:43] <abien> currently it contains files of various purposes, not only nagios_plugins. If i cant do it like i planned (array of filenames), id probably cleanup and move the directory.. | ||
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| [2010/03/13 10:42:56] <hggh> ambroff: you can write an define () for that. pass the array of files to an define and inside in the define you copy the file to the server | ||
| [2010/03/13 10:44:33] <hggh> ambroff: http://ruby.pastebin.com/BwYG6891 .. not tested :) | ||
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| [2010/03/13 10:51:31] <hggh> ambroff: http://ruby.pastebin.com/BwYG6891 .. not tested :) | ||
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| [2010/03/13 12:23:24] <hacim> joe-mac: http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_mac_vs_pc.html | ||
| [2010/03/13 12:23:26] <hacim> err | ||
| [2010/03/13 12:23:44] <hacim> joe-mac: disregard previous paste, this is the one: http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2244 | ||
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| [2010/03/13 13:16:40] <mrchucho> does the class "baseclass" have special significance or is it just a common practice? | ||
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| [2010/03/13 13:26:57] <whack> mrchucho: I don't define that anywhere | ||
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| [2010/03/13 13:27:43] <mrchucho> whack: I guess, specifically, I meant: if I have a class called "baseclass" does that get applied to every class regardless of whether or not I inherit/include it | ||
| [2010/03/13 13:28:02] <whack> probably not | ||
| [2010/03/13 13:28:18] <whack> though the docs would say that | ||
| [2010/03/13 13:28:52] <tag> Anyone use puppet to manage deployments with tomcat? | ||
| [2010/03/13 13:28:55] <mrchucho> k, that's what I thought | ||
| [2010/03/13 13:28:56] <mrchucho> thx | ||
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| [2010/03/13 14:05:04] <kjetilho> mrchucho: only the node "default" is special | ||
| [2010/03/13 14:05:19] <mrchucho> kjetilho: gotcha, thx | ||
| [2010/03/13 14:05:22] <kjetilho> and even that is just a fallback | ||
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| [2010/03/13 15:32:20] <m3t3or> hello | ||
| [2010/03/13 15:34:30] <ReinH> 'llo | ||
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| [2010/03/13 16:20:12] <m3t3or> is there a readme about package installation on debian managed by puppet? | ||
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| [2010/03/13 16:27:02] <mrchucho> if I specify a file resource via a definition and invoke that definition from one class, can I not then override that File resource in another class that inherits from the first class? | ||
| [2010/03/13 16:29:05] <mrchucho> http://gist.github.com/331561 | ||
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| [2010/03/13 16:55:59] <yoasif> hey, i have a question about this script: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/DebianPreseed | ||
| [2010/03/13 16:56:28] <yoasif> where should i put the top code block? | ||
| [2010/03/13 16:56:56] <barn> in your puppet receipe for that | ||
| [2010/03/13 16:57:03] <barn> so a define, or a class | ||
| [2010/03/13 16:57:46] <yoasif> not the same class as the "mta" portion right? | ||
| [2010/03/13 16:58:11] <yoasif> i can just do class { top portion } ? | ||
| [2010/03/13 16:58:14] <barn> depends how you want to organise your files | ||
| [2010/03/13 16:58:25] <barn> yeah, I just have mine in a class IIRC | ||
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| [2010/03/13 16:59:00] <yoasif> can i just copy it in as is? it seems like that could work too, since it is a define | ||
| [2010/03/13 16:59:29] <barn> if the content line works, then sure | ||
| [2010/03/13 17:03:42] <yoasif> barn, do you think this will work? http://pastebin.com/976pEDMj | ||
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| [2010/03/13 17:28:30] <monachus_> i'm trying to convert our daemon-driven puppetd systems to run out of cron, and i'm stumped by something. | ||
| [2010/03/13 17:28:46] <monachus_> if i run puppetd manualy (puppetd -vt) it runs fine | ||
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| [2010/03/13 17:28:59] <monachus_> if i run it from cron (puppetd --onetime --no-daemonize) it chokes | ||
| [2010/03/13 17:29:05] <monachus_> it just hangs and never returns | ||
| [2010/03/13 17:31:26] <monachus_> here's the lsof output | ||
| [2010/03/13 17:31:27] <monachus_> http://monachus.pastebin.com/np6Py8ys | ||
| [2010/03/13 17:31:44] <monachus_> and strace at the end. the FUTEX_WAIT never gets whatever it's waiting for | ||
| [2010/03/13 17:31:54] <monachus_> but manually it runs fine. | ||
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| [2010/03/13 17:32:58] <monachus_> well shit. maybe not. now it's failing when run manually too. *choke* | ||
| [2010/03/13 17:35:32] * monachus_ starts tearing apart the pieces | ||
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| [2010/03/13 17:43:49] <|Mike|> n/w | ||
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| [2010/03/13 18:31:11] <cowbud> monachus_: --debug --verbose.. | ||
| [2010/03/13 18:32:05] <mrchucho> does the mailalias resource not invoke newaliases automatically? | ||
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