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| [2010/02/07 01:45:05] <bgupta> Curious, has anyone done anything to automate EC2 EBS volume management? (Creation, FSTAB management, mounting, etc) | ||
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| [2010/02/07 09:40:59] <joe-mac1> can someone tell me what the difference between ssl/crl.pem and ssl/ca/ca_crl.pem | ||
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| [2010/02/07 12:10:39] <joe-mac1> guys hwat do people normally read for eiuther sites or rss feeds on the latest infrastructure-related news | ||
| [2010/02/07 12:10:51] <joe-mac1> i mean i have slashdot and digg but i want infrastructure related | ||
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| [2010/02/07 13:29:02] <joe-mac1> hmm i thought there was like an about/company page on reductivelabs.com... | ||
| [2010/02/07 13:36:16] <joe-mac1> found it! | ||
| [2010/02/07 13:36:41] <joe-mac1> looks like the issue tracker however marks everytghing as a bug until it's triaged... kinda sucks cause i know my feature requests are just that | ||
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| [2010/02/07 16:03:04] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: you can specify feature or bug in the drop down menu under "New Issues" | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:03:37] <joe-mac1> ah my bad man i filed a couple of feat requests under bugs jamesturnbull | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:03:47] <joe-mac1> puppetdoc stuff | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:03:51] <joe-mac1> couple hours ago | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:04:16] <joe-mac1> my puppetdocs are looking so slick after upgrading i regen them for my team every night at midnight to a shared drive | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:04:36] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: just moved them for you | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:04:40] <joe-mac1> life without puppet i just can't even remember. i picture banging rocks together and grunting | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:04:44] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: lol | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:04:58] <jamesturnbull> yeah - good features too | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:05:08] <joe-mac1> thanks man they just came to me out of nowhere | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:05:18] <joe-mac1> hey OT sort of but i know you manage quite a large infrastructure | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:05:20] <joe-mac1> do you use splunk? | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:05:31] <jamesturnbull> no - we use intellitactics | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:05:37] <jamesturnbull> but you did not hear that from me | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:05:41] * joe-mac1 notes to look it up | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:05:55] <joe-mac1> hey man no worries i am a professional, keep my beak closed on all sorts of shit | ||
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| [2010/02/07 16:13:35] <axisys> how can I tell if puppetmaster is running? http://pastebin.com/d16d1f705 .. i had been away and just came back | ||
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| [2010/02/07 16:13:45] <axisys> it is on ubuntu | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:14:11] <joe-mac1> axisys: idk i imagine it;'s a differebnt beast with passenger | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:14:21] <joe-mac1> i have an init script custom that has status | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:14:28] <joe-mac1> unlike all otger shit debian init scripts | ||
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| [2010/02/07 16:18:06] <axisys> joe-mac1: could you send it so i can add it to by xymon tool .. vadud3@gmail.com | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:18:29] <joe-mac1> axisys: it's available on RL's wiki under recipes, puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:18:30] <axisys> also what port is suppose to be on.. its been while.. i have to refresh my memory .. | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:18:44] <axisys> joe-mac1: ok | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:18:56] <joe-mac1> however, i will send you my puppet deploy thing from capistrano, cause i think it's cool shit | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:19:05] <joe-mac1> and it notifies your group of puppet deploys | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:19:17] <joe-mac1> unless you already have something like that | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:20:27] <axisys> joe-mac1: nah.. i played with capistrano a little.. but i was on vacation for more than a month.. | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:20:37] <axisys> so lot to catch up | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:21:06] <joe-mac1> yea i use it to deploy our website, our puppet, and our openbsd | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:21:19] <joe-mac1> since our openbsd configs would have taken a *lot* of work to integrate to puppet | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:21:24] <joe-mac1> i just go them separatel;y | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:21:37] <axisys> joe-mac1: which one is it here http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetRecipes ? your init script that is for ubuntu/debian | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:21:59] <axisys> i have tons of solaris boxes to manage | ||
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| [2010/02/07 16:22:38] <axisys> i am getting lot of these on the client | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:22:52] <axisys> Feb 7 15:54:33 jp-script puppetd[20903]: [ID 702911 local0.error] Could not call puppetreports.report: #<RuntimeError: HTTP-Error: 500 Internal Server Error> | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:22:56] <joe-mac1> yea but i don't see if for some reasons | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:23:06] <joe-mac1> axisys: whic version of client and server | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:23:27] <axisys> Feb 7 15:53:50 jp-script puppetd[20903]: [ID 702911 local0.error] Could not call puppetmaster.getconfig: #<RuntimeError: HTTP-Error: 500 Internal Server Error> | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:23:38] <joe-mac1> axisys: it used to be up there but i don't see it give me a few i am in between my computer, jammin to phish, and fixing some macs | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:24:03] <axisys> puppet client isn 0.24.7 and puppetmaster is 0.25.1 | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:24:25] <joe-mac1> try upgrading everything to .25.4 carefully of course if you've got the day | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:24:45] <joe-mac1> .25.4 is super speedy and not buggy in my experience just the pson logspam pisses me off | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:25:12] <axisys> joe-mac1: it is not in production yet really .. so i can go ahead and upgrade it.. as long as there is a debian pkg for 0.25.4 | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:25:59] <joe-mac1> axisys: you need to learn how to make your own | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:26:04] <joe-mac1> i can teach you how, it's easy | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:26:19] <axisys> joe-mac1: sure! | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:26:37] <joe-mac1> ok so do this first, open up a shell on a debian box that is the distro you standardized on | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:26:42] <axisys> besides watching the superbowl, i have nothing else going on today | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:26:42] <joe-mac1> like we standardized on 8.04 lts | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:26:49] @ Quit: mvn071: Remote host closed the connection | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:26:54] <joe-mac1> yea i don't even watch that shit, i am such a geek lol | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:27:08] <joe-mac1> sometimes if my firends ask me i will hang out iwth them and watch it but i don't really care to watch it alone | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:27:17] <axisys> joe-mac1: i am just watching for the cheerleaders and ads .. lol | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:27:24] <joe-mac1> mmmmmcheerleaders | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:27:30] <axisys> hehe | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:27:50] <joe-mac1> so once you have a shell on the box you're going to do the build on, the same distro your other boxes are on | ||
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| [2010/02/07 16:28:09] <joe-mac1> o fuck actually | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:28:10] <axisys> yes i do | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:28:16] <axisys> on a 9.04 | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:28:22] <joe-mac1> i can help you with this but the .25.4 build i just remember required a *lot of updates* | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:28:26] <joe-mac1> maybe not on 9.04 | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:28:29] <joe-mac1> so l;et's try anyways | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:28:35] <axisys> sure! | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:28:35] <joe-mac1> do sudo apt-get install devscripts | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:29:07] <joe-mac1> no browse to ftp.ubuntu.com browse to pool/main/p/puppet/ and copy the link of the .dsc file for .25.1 | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:29:13] <joe-mac1> s/no/now | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:30:21] <axisys> i am there | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:30:25] <axisys> copied | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:30:26] <joe-mac1> then in a working directory, like i use a dir called scratch in my home do | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:30:36] <joe-mac1> dget <pathtolinkfordsc file> | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:31:14] <joe-mac1> once that does its magic | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:31:25] <joe-mac1> do dpkg-source -x <local_path_of_dsc_file> | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:32:09] <joe-mac1> nmow withoput going any further do | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:32:16] <joe-mac1> wget http://reductivelabs.com/downloads/puppet/puppet-0.25.4.tar.gz | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:33:19] <axisys> it failed the signature validation | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:33:29] <joe-mac1> it should continue if it fails that | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:33:41] <joe-mac1> that's cause you prob don't have the individual developer's signature in your apt keys | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:33:57] <axisys> joe-mac1: http://pastebin.com/d37d95714 | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:34:26] <joe-mac1> do you have a directory called puppet-0.25.1 | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:34:27] @ Quit: warreng: Quit: warreng | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:34:36] <joe-mac1> if you do, that's more a warning than an error | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:34:48] <joe-mac1> dget changed the way it looks heh, that's funny | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:34:57] <joe-mac1> on 8.04 it's slightly uglier | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:35:29] <axisys> joe-mac1: http://pastebin.com/d174c0ab | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:35:42] <axisys> joe-mac1: this is what the dir looks like .. no puppet dir in here | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:37:58] <axisys> joe-mac1: ok now what ? i have done this http://pastebin.com/d56794f9c | ||
| [2010/02/07 16:39:03] <axisys> joe-mac1: i do have a puppet dir now http://pastebin.com/d7e10d8be | ||
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| [2010/02/07 16:44:12] <axisys> back | ||
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| [2010/02/07 17:11:00] <steakunderscore> Hi, We have a problem. We have a bunch of apache virtual hosts defined in the web server class in puppet. We are also checking each virtual host using nagios. Currently we are having add each virtual host to the nagios checks manually. Is there any way to have some of the web-server puppet configuration apply to the nagios checks configuration? | ||
| [2010/02/07 17:14:22] <nevyn> yes. | ||
| [2010/02/07 17:15:22] <steakunderscore> nevyn: Would there be some documentation on how to do this? | ||
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| [2010/02/07 17:19:52] <Djelibeybi> steakunderscore: check wiki:UsingStoredConfigurations | ||
| [2010/02/07 17:21:05] <steakunderscore> Djelibeybi: Thanks | ||
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| [2010/02/07 17:59:24] <joe-mac1> i sgut u cinoketeky fiorfit aviyt you axisys | ||
| [2010/02/07 17:59:30] <joe-mac1> in ernglish this time | ||
| [2010/02/07 17:59:36] <joe-mac1> i compltely forgot about you | ||
| [2010/02/07 17:59:45] <joe-mac1> you have the puppet-0.25.1 directory | ||
| [2010/02/07 17:59:47] <joe-mac1> and you have | ||
| [2010/02/07 17:59:57] <joe-mac1> wget http://reductivelabs.com/downloads/puppet/puppet-0.25.4.tar.gz | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:00:06] <joe-mac1> in the directory about puppet-0.25.1 | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:00:29] <joe-mac1> now do: cd puppet-0.25.1 && uupdate ../puppet-0.25.4.tar.gz | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:00:36] <joe-mac1> once that completes | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:00:49] <joe-mac1> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -kyourteamgpgkey@yourcompany.com | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:01:26] <joe-mac1> voila, in ../ you will have puppet-0.25.4.deb and puppetmaster-0.25.4.deb and something called puppet test suite, that i have not used it, though i put it in my custom apt repo | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:01:35] <joe-mac1> axisys: ^^ all that is for you | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:01:41] <joe-mac1> i'm sorry man i am doing like ten things at once | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:01:57] <joe-mac1> filing my taxes, ficxing some old mac's, amking tea, and trying to get my ISP to give me faster service | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:06:14] <axisys> joe-mac1: lol .. np man.. i will follow those now | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:06:49] <joe-mac1> wait wait | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:06:53] <joe-mac1> i forgot tone step! | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:07:02] <axisys> ok | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:07:06] <joe-mac1> after you run uupdate inside puppet-0.25.1 | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:07:22] <joe-mac1> you need to cd ../puppet-0.25.4 before running the dpkg-buildpackage | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:07:35] <joe-mac1> everything else is correct | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:08:04] <joe-mac1> this how we used to make .24.8 packages at my org, and now .25.x newer than 1 | ||
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| [2010/02/07 18:08:30] <axisys> joe-mac1: this looks ok so far ? http://pastebin.com/d12a52a13 | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:08:31] <joe-mac1> i do a litle biut of this for other stuff too, since we have a policy of 8.04 standar | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:09:13] <joe-mac1> i recall seeing one or two of those, but i was in a hurry you may want to examine the diffs | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:09:46] <joe-mac1> just anecdotally i am running puppet with sotred configs on two masters with a total of like 50 nodes with no idded]s so far | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:10:04] <joe-mac1> no? idk masybe i meant hiccups | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:10:15] <joe-mac1> i am like losing my ability to think as this day goes on, done too much today lol | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:10:32] <axisys> break time man! | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:10:46] <joe-mac1> can't, it's already 6 | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:10:53] <joe-mac1> break time is at 10 when i play some xbox and pass out | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:11:23] <joe-mac1> axisys: i would save that process in a text or script fyi since it's sort of the standard way to do it | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:11:33] <joe-mac1> i did it for .25.3 too, cept it had that nasty cron bug | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:12:15] <joe-mac1> i learned it from nigelk who, if you didn't know, is quite the puppet master himself at google and one of the debian maintainers | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:12:32] <axisys> joe-mac1: yeah i know | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:12:39] <axisys> joe-mac1: about nigel that is | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:13:00] <joe-mac1> yea just wanted you to kmnow i am not some cockamamy dude just making shit up | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:13:13] <axisys> joe-mac1: so does it look ok? the last few lines . http://pastebin.com/d3348865d | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:13:38] <axisys> i have seen u here all the time .. heh | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:13:40] <joe-mac1> no- not ok. your gpg key is unavailable to the gpg agemnt | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:13:58] <joe-mac1> yea it's in my auto sign for even work irc, sincec i basically make my entire living off of puppet | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:14:03] <axisys> joe-mac1: i dont have one.. i have to make a key then | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:14:26] <joe-mac1> yea if you plan on having more than a couple pieces of software in a custom repo for your org, it's well worth it | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:14:32] <joe-mac1> do the same thing for nagios 3.2 | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:14:49] <joe-mac1> custom repo afaic is 100% necessary for any shop | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:14:54] <joe-mac1> packages are the way to go | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:15:41] <axisys> now i have to find out how to make a key | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:16:04] @ Quit: bug: Quit: bug | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:16:25] <axisys> and then i have to add it to the apt as well... correct ? | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:17:08] <joe-mac1> yea, unless you just want to distribute them with some kind of alternate mechanism | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:17:14] <joe-mac1> do you have a custom repo already? | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:17:17] <joe-mac1> i can assist you with that | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:17:26] <joe-mac1> as much as possible, i am no expert but did indeed set mine up | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:17:53] <joe-mac1> i'll have to tap into some dusty memory banks but it should be fun! | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:21:45] <joe-mac1> axisys: i want to make sure, you built the packages on the same distro you will be installing them too correcT? | ||
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| [2010/02/07 18:22:41] <axisys> yes same platform | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:22:58] <axisys> sure i like to know how to build custom repo | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:23:07] <joe-mac1> grr brb dude i can't retake my freaking real nick name hold on | ||
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| [2010/02/07 18:23:41] <joe-mac> alright axisys so download reprepro | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:23:46] <joe-mac> apt-get it | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:23:51] <joe-mac> or aptitude wahtever | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:23:55] <axisys> i have not setup the key yet btw | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:24:01] <joe-mac> oh, ok | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:24:38] <joe-mac> so i always forget how to setup gpg keys cause i do it so infrequently, it just wants a regular gpg key i usually name after my team, infrastructure@mycompany.com | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:25:00] <joe-mac> a quick google will def show you how to get one up with the gpg utility | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:25:11] <joe-mac> and i have a puppet module for the rest i thiunk | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:25:53] <Djelibeybi> ohadlevy: ping? | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:26:34] <Djelibeybi> Anyone know how to clean up a storeconfigs database that's currently consuming 8GB? | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:27:10] <joe-mac> jesus christ | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:27:20] <joe-mac> well, you can tweak the remnode_from_storeconfigs.rb script | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:27:22] <joe-mac> however | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:27:25] <joe-mac> it will take a while | ||
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| [2010/02/07 18:27:52] <axisys> joe-mac: gpg --gen-key ,, what should i pick ? default or DSA (sign only) or RSA (sign only) | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:28:13] <axisys> DSA and Elgamal (default) | ||
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| [2010/02/07 18:29:51] <joe-mac> RSA, 3072 is sufficient for a while | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:30:21] <joe-mac> cwebber_: how's the fios treating you? | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:30:29] <proton> but you might as well do 4096, not like the CPU time for 3072 vs 4096 is worth worrying about... | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:30:36] <joe-mac> i have regular ADSL and it makes me want to commit suicide | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:30:38] <joe-mac> proton: true | ||
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| [2010/02/07 18:47:35] <axisys> joe-mac: now that i have a key .. do I need to add it to the apt ? | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:47:52] <joe-mac> yea so apt-get install reprepro | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:48:00] <joe-mac> also make sure you have the gpg-agent installed | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:48:26] <axisys> joe-mac: http://pastebin.com/d3ad722c2 | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:48:33] <axisys> ok | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:48:48] <joe-mac> hey guys it's been a while since i worked on a multi user system as a user, how do i se emy quota? just quota? | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:50:19] <axisys> joe-mac: repquota | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:51:21] <axisys> joe-mac: in ubuntu `quota -u iqbala' shows my quota | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:52:04] <axisys> joe-mac: or just quota for yourself .. yes | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:52:21] <joe-mac> says nothing but i don't wanbna be a di ck and take up a bunch of space lol | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:52:37] <joe-mac> probnably store just a few modules on this shell, but anyways back to your issues | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:52:41] <axisys> joe-mac: so no quota is set for u | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:52:51] <axisys> all installed | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:53:45] <joe-mac> ok so mkdir /var/packages/ubuntu now | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:54:06] <axisys> joe-mac: i need to add the key in apt repo first .. no? | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:54:15] <axisys> or at somepoint | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:54:19] <axisys> or at some point | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:54:22] <joe-mac> yes at some point | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:54:45] <axisys> next | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:55:45] <axisys> i may have to redo this .. http://pastebin.com/fd840318 after adding my key to the apt | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:57:01] <joe-mac> well you will be adding your pub key to apt-key however i am having sort of a brain fart on setting up the repo part | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:57:26] <joe-mac> nm found my class | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:57:29] <joe-mac> <3 puppet | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:57:34] <joe-mac> it's documentation even | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:57:36] <axisys> joe-mac: :-) | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:59:09] <axisys> gpg --export --armor E2EAAAA5 | sudo apt-key add - | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:59:10] <axisys> OK | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:59:12] <axisys> done! | ||
| [2010/02/07 18:59:52] <axisys> sudo apt-key list shows my key .. eehaa! | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:01:05] <joe-mac> axisys: | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:01:06] <joe-mac> http://www.pastie.org/814005 | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:01:16] <joe-mac> sorry had to edit out my company's name bnefore i could pastie it | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:01:39] <joe-mac> you're going to need some files too i bet | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:01:53] <joe-mac> let me censor this shit and throw it on my shell server | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:02:37] <joe-mac> i'll throw both up- one sets up clients | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:02:41] <joe-mac> and the other sets up the actual server | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:02:47] <joe-mac> you will be in heaven | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:03:01] <joe-mac> it worked such woinders for me, my team doesn't even know how good they have it right now | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:03:27] <axisys> joe-mac: yep! job security tho.. | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:03:43] <joe-mac> actually i want to move from ops to pen testing | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:04:25] <joe-mac> however i don't care if i stay i just want a junior by my secon year to motivate and mentor | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:04:39] @ Quit: nexx: Quit: quit | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:04:40] <joe-mac> and of course title bump, lead of technical operations or somehting | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:05:39] <axisys> hey .. i did not need to create the /var/packages/ubuntu with your manifest .. it looks cool | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:06:57] <joe-mac> where you going to hiost your repo then? | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:07:29] <axisys> oh yeah.. doh! | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:09:02] <joe-mac> cleaning up now, sorry this module is kinda big it's a holder for one off classes that would be of no use to people outside my company fopr the most part | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:09:09] <joe-mac> this one has poeoven it may be worth of its own module thoughj | ||
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| [2010/02/07 19:13:02] <joe-mac> almost done... | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:13:40] <axisys> well 1st qurtr 0-10 .. did not win that one.. each box is $25 .. oh well .. lost the 1st dollar.. heh | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:14:18] <axisys> joe-mac: appreciate your help | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:14:37] <joe-mac> np, i am not so muc a coder so i love to help out RL by helping the users | ||
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| [2010/02/07 19:20:24] <joe-mac> now just going over everything for info leakage axisys | ||
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| [2010/02/07 19:26:38] <joe-mac> hey axisys tarring and droppuing on my shell box now | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:26:45] <joe-mac> sorry for the wait but i have to make sure everything is clean first | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:27:23] <axisys> joe-mac: np, i am checking those .rej files .. so far all good | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:28:22] <joe-mac> yea this took my mind off trying to piece together this poiece of shit g3 | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:28:57] <joe-mac> http://shell.devco.net/~jmcdonagh/puppet-modules.tgz | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:29:13] <joe-mac> i had to include a couple extra ones to demonstrate how it's really done | ||
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| [2010/02/07 19:31:47] <axisys> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -kvadud3@gmail.com wnet perfect | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:31:58] <joe-mac> cause there's a gew pieces to the puzzle of having your own custom repo | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:31:59] <joe-mac> good | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:32:01] <joe-mac> that's great | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:32:07] <axisys> next step was to mkdir -p /var/packages/ubuntu | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:32:16] <joe-mac> next portion is getting into an apt repo so you can run cap and run it across all your nodes heh | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:32:26] <joe-mac> yep... if you use that class, you can probably get it all done fasrtter | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:32:36] <joe-mac> brb gonna heatr up some rice and tea | ||
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| [2010/02/07 19:40:27] <joe-mac> reprepro is a good tool axisys you should learn the basics of it if you do debian admin, i came from a red hat background so i had to pick up all this stuff in the opast 1.5 years | ||
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| [2010/02/07 19:47:50] <axisys> joe-mac: i mainly use solaris .. so i am sure i have to learn for a long time | ||
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| [2010/02/07 19:48:36] <axisys> well should i go ahead and install the latest puppet that i just built.. ? i have your manifest .. but not sure what would be my next step.. | ||
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| [2010/02/07 19:49:32] <axisys> also i think i need to replace the config.ru with this version's puppet for passenger to work .. | ||
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| [2010/02/07 19:51:57] <joe-mac> axisys: if you're doign this on deb best bet is to simple read my manifests | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:52:00] <joe-mac> and see how they fit together | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:52:12] <joe-mac> those manifests create the proper structure and everything for a custom repo | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:52:15] <joe-mac> whcih you're going to need | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:52:24] <joe-mac> for debian administrationi n general, you're gtoing to need | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:52:30] * joe-mac wishes he did more solaris work | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:52:44] <joe-mac> i only get to work on ubuntu and openbsd | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:53:02] <joe-mac> well, and windows 08 here and there | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:54:32] <axisys> i have VM window for iphone/itune .. but laptop and few servers are ubuntu.. rest solaris and my work desktop is opensolaris .. | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:54:57] <axisys> VM window on ubuntu created by virtual box | ||
| [2010/02/07 19:55:21] <axisys> so the manifest will build the repo and then i install the puppet ? | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:04:37] <joe-mac> the manifest is for building a repo and one of the modules will set up a custom sources.list file to pointn to it | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:04:45] <joe-mac> you'll have to read through the module to see how it's done | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:04:52] <joe-mac> this is a process you should understand fairly well | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:07:17] <joe-mac> axisys: have you checked out puppetdoc at all? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:07:55] <joe-mac> a lot of imrprovements have been made | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:08:58] <joe-mac> i recommend doing this: on your svn server that runs puppet, have it checkout puppet every fifteen or so mins so it's always up to date, then make a cron job for midnight or two that generates puppetdoc -a -type rdoc and change the outputdir to an nfs or smb share | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:09:13] <joe-mac> that way your team can have an up to date documentation set for puppet, it's really nice | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:10:29] @ Quit: lak: Quit: lak | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:10:40] <joe-mac> also, rdoc is like a wiki in a way | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:10:54] <joe-mac> the puppetdoc reads those README files from your manifests and shows them whenever you click on a module in rdoc | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:11:14] <joe-mac> then it l inks words like a wiki, like say you mention the word "apt" in the readme, and there is an apt class, it will link to it | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:11:30] <joe-mac> it's awesome, i fell in love with this tool aftyer they fixed a bug that was preventing me from using it in .24.8 | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:28:04] <axisys> joe-mac: i used it before.. | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:28:41] <axisys> joe-mac: i think Volcane introduced me to that .. but again i have been away from puppet for a while.. so still refreshing | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:30:27] <joe-mac> axisys: yea it used to kinda suck a little, like little annoying bugs, but sooo mch was fixed with .25 series | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:30:37] <joe-mac> .25.4 is like a gift from god | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:30:43] <joe-mac> speed ups everywhere too | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:31:02] <joe-mac> i do remember seeing a lot more of you in the opast now ]that i thinik about it | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:31:07] <joe-mac> you get tasked with some other big project? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:31:51] <axisys> joe-mac: well i was away for more than a month .. overseas .. | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:33:16] <joe-mac> o nice vaca? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:34:36] <axisys> joe-mac: yes .. to short.. went to see my mom .. | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:34:42] <axisys> s/to/too/ | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:34:59] <ohadlevy> Djelibeybi:pong | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:37:05] <Djelibeybi> ohadlevy: Did you have scripts to purge/reduce the size of the storeconfigs database or am I insane? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:37:33] <ohadlevy> that depends of what is taking all the size, is it also a foreman db? | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:40:10] <joe-mac> ah tghaht sucks having your mom overseas | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:40:24] <joe-mac> Djelibeybi: are there stale nopdes in it? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:40:30] <joe-mac> there are also lite store condfigs now | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:40:38] <joe-mac> you turn on some otpions and only certain things are stored | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:40:51] <Djelibeybi> ohadlevy: it was. I've killed the DB and replaced it with a thin_storeconfigs version instead (11GB -> 20MB) | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:00] <Djelibeybi> ohadlevy: I suspect the Foreman reports were the cause | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:04] <ohadlevy> Djelibeybi: :) | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:10] <Djelibeybi> As we're not actually using Foreman properly, I just disabled it all | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:11] <ohadlevy> that means you didnt run the expiry scripts | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:16] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: yeah, I'm using thin_storeconfigs | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:22] <joe-mac> o i c | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:25] <Djelibeybi> ohadlevy: I had the cronjobs installed. They may not have been working properly | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:27] <joe-mac> then i guess i am just useless here | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:29] <ohadlevy> there are some rake tasks | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:41] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: all advice is helpful advice | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:53] <joe-mac> yea mostly revolves around stale nodes, if it's all just up to date, then i guess well you just haveb a massive environment | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:41:58] <joe-mac> is it causing problems Djelibeybi? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:09] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: yeah, the Puppet Master VM ran out of space | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:25] <Djelibeybi> So, I just killed the big DB and let the Puppet Master recreate it | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:26] <joe-mac> try splitting it up into multiple mastyers | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:42:29] <Djelibeybi> Crude, but effective | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:30] <joe-mac> per location, per domain | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:32] <joe-mac> etc | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:37] <joe-mac> also Djelibeybi | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:41] <Djelibeybi> Would if I could, but this is a single location, single domain | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:48] <joe-mac> idk if you knew this, but you can jhave a puppetmaster that all it does it stored config db | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:49] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: that doesnt scale | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:42:50] <joe-mac> nothing esle | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:43:02] <joe-mac> ohadlevy: puppet master per location doesn't scare? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:43:02] <Djelibeybi> I may need to consider multiple puppet masters for this environment soon | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:43:05] <joe-mac> scale*** | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:43:13] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: with storeconfig that is | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:43:18] <joe-mac> of course it does, then you hjave one master whcih servers the masters | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:43:37] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: and how does it help? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:43:41] <joe-mac> ohadlevy: you have a much bigger env than me so i pretty much trust what you're saying but can you explain why | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:43:52] <joe-mac> my qustion firxt, why doesn't iot scale? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:43:56] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: there are a few major issues, | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:44:05] <ohadlevy> first, nothing works if the db is gone | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:44:59] <ohadlevy> second, while 0.25 improved A LOT with puppetq, is still not that good if you have a lot of collections / export (just because you db is usually having latency ) | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:46:48] <joe-mac> ahi c | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:46:58] <joe-mac> you work with such a huge env i often don't think the sme way you do | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:47:11] <joe-mac> i don't even implement anything message queue | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:47:24] <joe-mac> the store config db's for each master is on the same host | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:47:32] <joe-mac> so damaghe is localized i guess you'd say | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:47:45] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: yeah, but then you cant use the data across nodes in different locations | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:48:07] <joe-mac> depends onw aht you mean, i have a role in capistrano calld puppet_dbs | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:48:09] <joe-mac> and it queries them all | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:48:29] <joe-mac> i found that when i tried to centralize in .24.8 my network was just too slow | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:48:31] <joe-mac> and i ran into issues | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:49:09] <joe-mac> howveer i just realized how right oyu | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:49:10] <joe-mac> you are | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:49:13] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: one of the design decisions of foreman, is that it can take all of the facts reports etc and store them (in a similar way to puppetq lets say), and that there is a foreman function which can query hosts based on thier states | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:49:22] <joe-mac> since my next big big project for the phbs is centralized nagios | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:49:26] <ohadlevy> this avoids needing storeconfigs all together | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:49:42] <joe-mac> i might be looking into that, idk i need nagios to be automatic | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:49:47] <joe-mac> i am sick of the manual shit | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:50:00] <ohadlevy> and there is a caching layer, so even if the db is gone, it will still use the old settings | ||
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| [2010/02/07 20:55:43] <axisys> joe-mac: yep .. it is | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:56:32] <axisys> ohadlevy: still in singapore? | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:57:12] <ohadlevy> axisys: yeah | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:57:50] <ohadlevy> axisys: why? got any interesting job offers somewhere else? ;) | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:58:43] <axisys> ohadlevy: nah.. it has been a while since i came into #puppet.. so curious about your whereabout. u were helping me a lot with puppet | ||
| [2010/02/07 20:59:37] <jamesturnbull> ohadlevy: Tel Aviv? I know some Checkpoint guys... | ||
| [2010/02/07 21:00:25] <joe-mac> too bad i have a little bambino i'd be trying top get to dublin heh | ||
| [2010/02/07 21:00:29] <ohadlevy> jamesturnbull: I'm always open for interesting stuff :) | ||
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| [2010/02/07 21:07:53] <joe-mac> is filing taxes absolutely retarded in other countries besides the US? | ||
| [2010/02/07 21:08:17] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: I'm not sure but I think the other way around ;) | ||
| [2010/02/07 21:08:42] <joe-mac> man, it's like they're asking me all this stuff, yet they take the money out, shouldn't THEY know then what the answer is? | ||
| [2010/02/07 21:08:59] <joe-mac> idk, i'm going back to working omn this computer lol | ||
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| [2010/02/07 21:26:27] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: it's the govt - they know all the answers, and all the questions and have all the data they just can't correlate anything | ||
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| [2010/02/07 22:11:54] <nevyn> jamesturnbull: or arn't allowed to correlate for legal reasons | ||
| [2010/02/07 22:12:10] <nevyn> government often has the situation where the left hand must not know what the right hand is doing | ||
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| [2010/02/07 23:41:47] <errr> is there a way to list of of the puppet clients the master is controlling? | ||
| [2010/02/07 23:42:09] <errr> all of* | ||
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| [2010/02/07 23:47:57] <ohadlevy> you can look at the /var/lib/puppet/yaml/nodes dir | ||
| [2010/02/07 23:49:58] <errr> ok thanks | ||
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