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| [2010/02/05 00:06:27] <ohadlevy> incommon_ike: no, i'm still not sure how to do it, as if I'll create an rpm it will not be accept to any standard repo | ||
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| [2010/02/05 00:37:32] <webx> anyone know a way to fix this on 24.8? http://pastie.org/808702 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 01:54:32] <eric0> ah man, what was the bug regarding sol10 services marked 'offline*' ... | ||
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| [2010/02/05 01:55:16] <eric0> ah, #3113 | ||
| [2010/02/05 01:55:17] <gepetto> eric0: ah: #3113 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/3113 "Puppet - Bug #3113: When importing a manifest puppet needs to chill - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2010/02/05 01:56:49] <pinoyskull> i get this error when using facter variable $architecture | ||
| [2010/02/05 01:56:52] <pinoyskull> Fri Feb 05 06:31:10 +0000 2010 Puppet (warning): Configuration could not be instantiated: Could not find dependency Package[httpd.i386] for File[/etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf] at /etc/puppet/manifests/classes/php.pp:25 | ||
| [2010/02/05 01:56:56] <pinoyskull> facter is running fine | ||
| [2010/02/05 01:57:12] <pinoyskull> why can't it find httpd.i386 | ||
| [2010/02/05 01:59:09] <eric0> is that using the yum package provider? | ||
| [2010/02/05 02:11:05] <pinoyskull> eric0: yep | ||
| [2010/02/05 02:18:02] <eric0> looks like yum itself knows what to do with that, is it quoting wrong maybe? Package["httpd.i386"] ? i had a problem with unquoted . in comparisons a while back | ||
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| [2010/02/05 02:23:37] <pinoyskull> eric0: this is the require line | ||
| [2010/02/05 02:23:40] <pinoyskull> require => [Package["php.$architecture"], Package["httpd.$architecture"]], | ||
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| [2010/02/05 02:54:04] <pinoyskull> any ideas | ||
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| [2010/02/05 03:23:58] <nico> morning | ||
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| [2010/02/05 04:36:41] <rasputnik> what sort of testing environment would people recommend for puppet deploys? Standalone dev. server and nodes, or the module/environment thing? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 04:53:06] <nico> rasputnik: I use a few VMs for my tests | ||
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| [2010/02/05 05:35:08] <rasputnik> nico and a separate puppetserver? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 05:41:23] <Volcane> i use environments for that | ||
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| [2010/02/05 05:47:30] <nico> yup | ||
| [2010/02/05 05:47:48] <nico> no environnement here yet | ||
| [2010/02/05 05:48:35] <danielbln> real men do live changes to manifests and cross fingers | ||
| [2010/02/05 05:48:41] <danielbln> :-p | ||
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| [2010/02/05 06:00:39] <rasputnik> danielbln, oh I've been doing plenty of that too :) | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:01:11] <danielbln> I have to admit that I do too, but it's really a bad way of doing things | ||
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| [2010/02/05 06:03:20] <rasputnik> I generally test individual modules, but it's the interactions between them (combined with facts that vary) that bite me now and then. | ||
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| [2010/02/05 06:12:59] <Volcane> yeah hard to test those, dev virtual machines is the best way with environments | ||
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| [2010/02/05 06:20:32] <rasputnik> trouble is, switching to environments is a bit of a breaking change itself :) | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:21:03] <rasputnik> I guess I can disable the puppetds, make the change to server, then tweak them back on as I go for big scary stuff like that. | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:21:19] <rasputnik> how is mcollective coming along? | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:23:12] <Volcane> rasputnik: well i have a few boxes - vms - in devel environment and have it laid out so i can use common modules and specific ones in dev so i can fairly easily test arb things - but really its usually too much effort and i cant be arsed :P | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:23:38] <Volcane> rasputnik: pretty good, busy adding abilities to make things like self generating web ui's and stuff, very happy with progress | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:24:06] <rasputnik> does it depend on storeconfigs? still using flat files here; though that would be a reason to upgrade. | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:24:50] <Volcane> nope, puppet+facter is side issues | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:24:56] <Volcane> it works with chef+ohai too | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:25:08] <Volcane> or with nothing if u dont se CF | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:27:03] <Volcane> it needs a fact source, anything will do - even a yaml file or flat file | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:27:14] <Volcane> and a list of classifications for the server - for puppet just al ist of classes | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:27:24] <Volcane> and those live on the actual servers no cnetral db | ||
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| [2010/02/05 06:49:37] <rasputnik> ah cool, will take another look then. Anyone know where I can get activeMQ RPMs ? | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:50:20] <Volcane> http://www.marionette-collective.org/activemq/ | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:50:35] <Volcane> use stomp 1.1.1 not 1.1.3 | ||
| [2010/02/05 06:50:59] <Volcane> 1.1.3 has issues, seems the rubygem stomp maintainers are in a bit of flux about how they do releases | ||
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| [2010/02/05 07:32:10] * nico hates the trac wiki | ||
| [2010/02/05 07:32:30] * SyTonnerre understands | ||
| [2010/02/05 07:32:55] <nico> System Message: WARNING/2 (<string>, line 582) | ||
| [2010/02/05 07:32:55] <nico> Definition list ends without a blank line; unexpected unindent. | ||
| [2010/02/05 07:32:58] <nico> DIE DIE DIE | ||
| [2010/02/05 07:33:46] <gepetto> ::trac:: Frequently Asked Questions edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?version=73 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 08:16:42] <gepetto> ::trac:: Whos Using Puppet edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/WhosUsingPuppet?version=197 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 08:22:05] <darkseed> gepetto: sorry i was editing it | ||
| [2010/02/05 08:22:33] <darkseed> nvm gepetto = bot ;P | ||
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| [2010/02/05 08:53:43] <gepetto> ::trac:: Whos Using Puppet edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/WhosUsingPuppet?version=198 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:02:37] <joe-mac> guys, the certificates puppet creates do not require a password correct? i mean, they're just used by puppet right? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:04:01] <duritong> joe-mac: they can be used by someone else as well | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:04:16] <duritong> joe-mac: I know people using them for ipsec and so on | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:04:25] <joe-mac> yea duritong | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:04:25] <duritong> joe-mac: but no they don't require a password | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:04:29] <duritong> why should they? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:04:29] <joe-mac> exaclty what i am tryign to do | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:04:34] <joe-mac> i am trying to use them for splunk | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:04:41] <joe-mac> and splunk gets this error ERROR SSLCommon - Can't read key file | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:04:48] <joe-mac> which makes no sense to me | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:05:00] <duritong> hmm is splunk run as root? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:05:10] <joe-mac> it's like spluink can't use certs that don't have passwords | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:05:15] <joe-mac> it hink my installation is | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:05:25] <duritong> then I dunno | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:10:20] <jmccune> duritong: By default, splunk runs under it's own system account | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:16:32] <duritong> jmccune: then it might a problem that this one can't read the certificates? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:18:43] <joe-mac> eitehr way i su'd to splunk | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:18:54] <joe-mac> and i can openssl x509 -in cert.pem -text fine | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:19:19] <ahasenack> I have a node definition of {}, like "node {}", yet my client is still picking up stuff. Could this be some cache on the server, or is it most likely I just have another node definition somewhere else I'm not seeing? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:19:22] <joe-mac> i think that maybe splunk can't handle certs without a password | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:19:38] <joe-mac> ahasenack: cached catalog will be used during certain errors | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:19:53] <ahasenack> joe-mac: a cache on the server? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:19:58] <joe-mac> no, on the cliens | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:20:17] <ahasenack> I purged the client (apt-get purge, rm -rf /var/lib/puppet, etc...) | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:20:45] <ahasenack> then reinstalled puppet, and it's still picking up classes | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:21:13] <ahasenack> if it's another bug in the old hardy version of puppet, I'll shoot that vm in the head ;) | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:21:44] <ahasenack> debug: Using cached node puppet-client <-- I see this in the server's debug output ("puppet-client" is the hostname of the client) | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:25:36] * ahasenack removes the puppet-client.yaml file he finds | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:27:36] <ohadlevy> joe-mac it uses a password | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:27:52] <joe-mac> what uses a password? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:28:05] <ohadlevy> the cert | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:28:20] <joe-mac> then what is it? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:28:31] <joe-mac> (this is a puppet cert) | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:28:48] <ohadlevy> google for func and puppet intgeration | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:31:09] <shine> how does the collection syntax work ? for File <| xxx |> ... | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:37:23] <jmccune> duritong: Sorry, working on something at the moment. be back wit hyou soon, but yes, I think permissions are a issue if the certs are owned by root | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:50:29] <Pupeno> Do you normally have /etc/puppet or /etc/puppet/manifest on version control? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:50:37] <ahasenack> as soon as I uncomment the "include modules" line from site.pp, the class defined in the sole module I have gets applied to the node, even without a node definition | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:50:49] <ahasenack> that took me by surprise, I thought classes would not get applied by default | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:51:07] <ahasenack> Pupeno: for the moment I have my modules under revision control | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:51:19] <ahasenack> not necessarily that filesystem path | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:52:10] <ahasenack> er, I mean "import" | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:52:12] <ahasenack> not include | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:52:26] <jmccune> Pupeno: revision control of puppet is nice... I've given up on the default filesystem paths though and manage everything in ~puppet | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:52:30] <windowsrefund> hello | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:52:53] <windowsrefund> is it legal to use an array for the package type's source attribute? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:53:35] <nexusone> I removed the node configuration from puppetmaster server, but everytime I restart client puppet process, it still uses the old settings from the server, why? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:53:37] <jmccune> windowsrefund: I don't think so | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:53:48] <StuZZZs> hello, is there a pam module to manipulate pam? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:53:49] <jmccune> windowsrefund: What behavior are you hoping for? | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:54:19] <StuZZZs> we have multiple modules that need to modify pam files | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:54:48] <ohadlevy> StuZZZs: use augeas | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:54:54] <Pupeno> I'm currently having only manifests in vcs, if I also want to have the files, I should have them in manifests/files, shouldn't I? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:55:06] <StuZZZs> augeas? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:55:23] <windowsrefund> jmccune: I'd like to be able to list multiple sources so the client will attempt to use the next server if the first can not be found | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:55:40] <ohadlevy> wiki:PuppetAugeas | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:55:40] <gepetto> ohadlevy: wiki: wiki:PuppetAugeas is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetAugeas | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:56:20] <Pupeno> How can I have two classes provides different files for the same name? puppet and puppetmaster provide different /etc/puppet/puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:57:00] <masterzen> Pupeno: it depends, you can configure several "files" "mounts" in fileserver.conf. I myself put some files in /etc/puppet/files. I also have files in my modules. | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:57:32] <masterzen> Pupeno: not if both classes are included on the same node. | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:58:24] <Pupeno> masterzen: I though you couldn't have two files with the same paths at all. But even then, yes, I do have a problem, default is a puppet while main is a puppetmaster and inherits default. | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:59:13] <windowsrefund> Pupeno: you can handle that in a module. The shared resources like /etc/puppet/puppet.conf would be handled in the module's init class and while the client bits are managed in puppet::client | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:59:20] <masterzen> Pupeno: then in the puppetmaster use an override: File["/etc/puppet/puppet.conf"] { source => "puppet:///../puppetmaster.conf" } | ||
| [2010/02/05 10:59:27] <windowsrefund> and obviously your server bits are handled in puppet::server | ||
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| [2010/02/05 10:59:46] <masterzen> Pupeno: what windowsrefund says is the best practice. | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:00:27] <ahasenack> hmmmmm | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:00:37] * ahasenack sees the light | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:00:38] <Pupeno> I'm not using modules, not yet at least. | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:00:42] <ahasenack> s/include/import/ | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:00:53] <windowsrefund> Pupeno: this is a perfect opportunity to start | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:02:47] <Pupeno> windowsrefund: I still don't understand whether one is expect them to write them, download them, have a repo for each one, have a repo for all and at the moment, it seems they'll complicate my 20 lines setup. | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:04:29] <Pupeno> So, is anybody keeping their manifests in version control? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:04:39] <KarlHungus> me | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:04:51] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: where do you have the files? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:05:09] <KarlHungus> i keep all of /etc/puppet in svn | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:05:09] <arj__> I have them in a subversion repository | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:05:25] <KarlHungus> would be git, but we're still svn here | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:05:42] <Pupeno> Anybody having /etc/puppet/manifests but not /etc/puppet on version control? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:06:43] <Pupeno> mmh, ok. | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:07:42] <KarlHungus> Pupeno: why would you? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:08:31] <windowsrefund> Pupeno: I recommend the BranchTesting document on the wiki | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:08:41] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: I was expecting puppet to handle its own configuration, not just putting it on version control, but it seems it's not a usual practice. | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:14:54] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: do you have a class for puppet clients? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:15:05] <KarlHungus> Pupeno: yep | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:15:20] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: Does it provide a puppet.conf? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:15:25] <KarlHungus> yep | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:15:40] <KarlHungus> client's /etc/puppet is not svn managed. puppet manages it | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:15:46] <KarlHungus> the masters /etc/puppet is all in svn | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:16:19] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: To which nodes do you apply the puppet class? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:16:28] <KarlHungus> Pupeno: all of them | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:16:52] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: all your nodes say "include puppetclient" ? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:17:50] <KarlHungus> i have class general { include puppet::cron } and node basenode { $my_puppet_server = "puppet.domain.com" } then each node is node 'foo' inherits basenode { include general } | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:18:16] <KarlHungus> basenode *only* includes variable definitions | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:18:28] <KarlHungus> not class includes | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:19:03] <Pupeno> what class provides puppet.conf in there? puppet::cron? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:19:08] <Pupeno> general? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:19:30] <KarlHungus> puppet::cron sets up puppet.conf, namespace.conf, etc. | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:19:57] <KarlHungus> general includes puppet::cron, syslog, and other classes that every node i have should include | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:21:02] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: so your puppetmaster node doesn't inherit basenode, right? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:21:11] <KarlHungus> Pupeno: it does | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:21:26] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: wouldn't it then override its own puppet.conf? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:21:50] <KarlHungus> Pupeno: but node 'puppet' inherits basenode { include puppet::master::rack } | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:22:17] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: what does puppet::master::rack do? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:22:27] <KarlHungus> puppet::master::rack inherits puppet (just like puppet::cron) and sets a new source path for puppet.conf | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:23:20] <KarlHungus> class puppet defines the puppet.conf file resource and only sets ensure => present. puppet::cron and puppet::master both inherit puppet and set a different source path for that file | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:24:17] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: in puppet::master, do you set the file to /etc/puppet/puppet.conf? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:25:38] <KarlHungus> http://pastebin.com/d7ba2e30a | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:25:48] <Pupeno> KarlHungus: Thank you :D | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:26:02] <KarlHungus> its not perfect yet. other people here can probably offer better advice | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:32:13] <Pupeno> Any ideas how to get rid of these two errors: http://gist.github.com/295939 ? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:41:31] <joe-mac> hey ohadlevy | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:41:31] <Pupeno> this is the first error message: err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to generate additional resources during transaction: None of the provided sources exist | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:41:42] <joe-mac> earlier you told me to check otu puppet and func integration for ssl stuff | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:42:09] <joe-mac> i'm not sure i got what you were saying... so the puppet ssl certs do have passwords? that doesn't make sense cause i can read them with openssl without enteringf one | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:42:47] <joe-mac> we got a nmew coffee maker that puts out lattes at exactly the right temperature so that you can drink them without burning yourself | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:42:55] <joe-mac> it's like god lives in this machine | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:45:04] <mpdehaan> joe-mac, Func, yes? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:45:25] <mpdehaan> I may be able to help with that | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:45:28] <joe-mac> mpdehaan: no i am just trying to use my ssl certs from puppet for splunk and splunk is bitching about them that it can';t read the file | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:45:31] <joe-mac> and i KNOW it can | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:45:36] <joe-mac> it can be read by root OR the splunk user | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:45:49] <mpdehaan> so where's func come in? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:45:53] <joe-mac> so splunk is just being retarded, and i'm thinking maybe it's cause the certs have no passwords | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:04] <joe-mac> idk ohadlevy told me to look at puppet and func wrt ssl integration i assumed | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:12] <mpdehaan> that doesn't parse for me | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:17] <joe-mac> yea, i know dude | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:19] <mpdehaan> I know there was a way of making func use puppet certs | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:46:21] <mpdehaan> or vice versa | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:25] <mpdehaan> but I wouldn't really recommend it | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:27] <joe-mac> that might be wehat he was getting at | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:36] <mpdehaan> as Func's cert stuff was a little confusing at times | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:44] <joe-mac> as is all cert stuff | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:49] <mpdehaan> puppetca is getting smarter (WRT re-requesting CSRs etc) | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:46:56] <mpdehaan> probably meant to just see what it does or something | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:47:07] <mpdehaan> splunk is all commercial so you could probably ask them? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:47:12] <joe-mac> i'd honestly rather use puppet certs for anything and everything | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:47:17] <joe-mac> their support is atrocious mpdehaan | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:47:25] <joe-mac> i guess this is a known problem | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:47:31] <joe-mac> but i am in the presales phase of purchasing | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:47:34] <joe-mac> and like i can't get ANY help | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:47:51] <mpdehaan> I really do like the idea of one ca to bind everything | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:47:54] <mpdehaan> makes life so much easier | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:48:17] <elijahwright> heh - i used to have a puppet manifest that mostly installed splunk - it was a huge pain in the butt and we never got around to using it. | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:48:22] <elijahwright> their support, is indeed, bad. | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:48:36] <pheezy> sadly it used to be far better when they didn't have as many customers ;( | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:48:46] <pheezy> catch-22 i suppose | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:51:01] <joe-mac> mpdehaan: totally with you here | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:51:50] <joe-mac> elijahwright: i have a module that installs it and it works wonders | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:51:58] <joe-mac> configures lightforwarders and splunk for unix on all nodes sets up ssl | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:52:07] <joe-mac> problem is, it just simply won't take these certs | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:52:09] <joe-mac> it's not permissions | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:52:24] <elijahwright> awesome :) you should stick it up on github or whatever when you've got this last bit figured out. | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:52:37] <joe-mac> i actually put it on github but in its first state had dep cycles | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:52:40] <joe-mac> it's fixed now | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:52:53] <joe-mac> it's really simple, but i'm sure someone else might find bugs | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:52:58] <elijahwright> kinda hard to persude the bits inside of splunk that hit certs to do their thing verbosely and spit out errors? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:53:07] <pheezy> Hmm I thought SSL was on by default | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:53:09] <joe-mac> elijahwright: all i get is this one error | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:53:12] <joe-mac> anoyingh | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:53:20] <joe-mac> pheezy: no, which is another gripe i have | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:53:29] <joe-mac> whop wants all this potentially sensitive data transmitted in the open? | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:53:32] <mpdehaan> even if it's rough, put it up there | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:53:37] <pheezy> hmm their docs say it is: http://zh-hant.splunk.com/base/index.php?title=Documentation:Admin:SecureaccesstoyourSplunkserverwithSSL:4.0&redirect=no | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:53:40] <mpdehaan> when we have a common module repo (soon) it will be easy for people to extend it | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:54:11] <joe-mac> yea mpdehaan i volunteered to help out with the common module thing, just so many people can't even agreee ion the best way to create a vhost even lol | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:54:32] <mpdehaan> I apologize in that I won't have much time to devote to it for a few weeks, but then, we proceed in full | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:54:45] <elijahwright> mpdehaan: the common module repo notion is a good one. glad to see you taking that on / making noise about it. might be better than people willy-nilly adding unreviewed modules from all over the internet. | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:54:46] <mpdehaan> teyo has some ideas WRT best practices and so forth that we want to get all codified up in there | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:54:49] <mpdehaan> so they have some commonality | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:55:04] <mpdehaan> I know people can't agree, so we'll just pick something good :) | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:55:08] <mpdehaan> and if we need to change it later we can | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:55:15] <elijahwright> *nod* i intend to help out a bit as well - i'm increasingly pro-module, having done things the "wrong" way before. | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:55:19] <pheezy> It'd certainly be helpful, it took me a long time to find the puppet-common module that is referenced in a lot of git repos | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:55:44] <pheezy> be nice to have some reductive labs blessed modules | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:56:52] <ahasenack> I'm looking for ways to have the client tell the master what kind of client it is, like a role, and then have the master process the right recipe. I see two avenues for this: FACTER_* variables and certnames | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:57:05] <ahasenack> I prefer FACTER_, as I don't like to mess with hostnames, certificates, etc | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:57:14] <ahasenack> is that a common scenario that people have? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 11:57:44] <ahasenack> for example, something like node default { include foo; if $role { include "$role" } } (minus the syntax errors, but you get the idea | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:58:08] <elijahwright> having a few core collaboratively maintained modules will be very good. | ||
| [2010/02/05 11:58:12] <ahasenack> and each node would export FACTER_role="mysql-master", FACTER_role="app-server", etc | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:02:05] <joe-mac> hey pheezy that's for the web interface | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:02:14] <joe-mac> however i want to thank you for that cause i want to disable ssl3 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 12:04:21] <pheezy> Hmm that's not how I read it joe-mac | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:04:54] <joe-mac> pheezy: perhaps i should clarify i mean ssl for forwarding/receiving | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:05:01] <joe-mac> each one of my nodes runs as a lgihtforwarder | ||
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| [2010/02/05 12:05:54] <pheezy> Yeah that's what I mean; take a look at /opt/splunk/etc/system/default/server.conf ; you'll see it's enabled by default :-/ | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:06:12] <pheezy> of course that doesn't fix your problem of using the puppetCA unfortunately :( | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:06:18] <joe-mac> not for receivers and forwarders... | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:07:23] <joe-mac> they'[re configured in inputs.conf and outputs.conf | ||
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| [2010/02/05 12:13:17] <pheezy> damn you're right joe-mac | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:13:25] <pheezy> lol my friday just busier | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:13:31] <joe-mac> yea, i hear ya man | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:13:44] <joe-mac> all i want, i mean, all i want before the wekeend starts is splunk collecting ssl data | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:13:45] <Pupeno> Should /var/lib/puppet/ be all owned by puppet:puppet? | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:13:54] <joe-mac> i'm trying to size my environment and they seemingly don't give a shit | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:14:06] <joe-mac> like ui guess unless you're telling them you need a 10G license you're unimportant | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:14:46] <joe-mac> and i am like 100% sure it's something stupid i am either overlooking or don't know, like it requires password certs, or it requires the splunk ca for some reason to sign it, idk | ||
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| [2010/02/05 12:15:27] <pheezy> you should email your account person and tell them if they dont help you fix it today you're not buying :) | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:17:40] <elijahwright> joe-mac: seen octopussy? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 12:17:52] <elijahwright> (looked like a good splunk alternative last time i had a dither about it...) | ||
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| [2010/02/05 12:21:22] <joe-mac> idk man splunk has some serious features, not to mention its speed is nothing to joke about | ||
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| [2010/02/05 12:22:51] <joe-mac> i think i am going to buy all the james bond movies | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:22:59] <joe-mac> lol... octopussy made me think of it | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:23:06] <elijahwright> lol, good call! | ||
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| [2010/02/05 12:41:54] <Pupeno> I'm getting lot's of "warning: /Settings[/etc/puppet/puppet.conf]/Settings[reporting]/File[/var/lib/puppet/reports]/owner: Cannot manage ownership unless running as root" from puppetmaster. How do I fix it? | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:42:09] <joe-mac> i love all the puppet slogans for t shirts | ||
| [2010/02/05 12:42:19] <joe-mac> you guys should make a number of shirts in each slogan and sell them | ||
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| [2010/02/05 13:21:15] <paxos> do y'all collect puppets and stuff? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 13:42:45] <gepetto> ::trac:: Frequently Asked Questions edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?version=74 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 13:50:56] <fzzzt> ok, puzzler | ||
| [2010/02/05 13:52:15] <fzzzt> This: if ($environment == 'testing') or ($fqdn =~ /repo[1256]/) or ($fqdn =~ /puppet/) { is causing this: err: Cannot reassign variable 0 at /etc/puppet/production/modules/puppet/manifests/init.pp:6 on node repo2 | ||
| [2010/02/05 13:52:18] <fzzzt> 0.25.1 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:02:02] <duritong> fzzzt: does not fail here on 0.25.4 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:04:23] <fzzzt> hmmm | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:05:54] <fzzzt> this works... if ($environment == 'testing') or ($fqdn =~ /repo[1256]/) { | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:06:11] <fzzzt> i wonder if multi-regexes was added/fixed in .2-.4 | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:07:38] <benkevan> what's the advantage of using puppet vs a home grown script to grab configs? is there any? (sorry for my ignorance, just new to checking out puppet) | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:09:33] <joe-mac> how is "Much better than your shell scripts" winning right now? | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:09:53] <joe-mac> though i like the tagline, it's definitely a little too plain | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:10:12] <mpdehaan> yeah who is voting for that one :) | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:10:34] <joe-mac> mpdehaan: i should have approval to get the other free shirt today once i talk to the markweting guy | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:10:41] <mpdehaan> great! | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:10:42] <paxos> benkevan: puppet is your homegrown script.. work is already done | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:10:43] <joe-mac> in fact i am going to hassle him now | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:11:12] <benkevan> paxos: Ok.. so no advantage for switching.. other then more "standardization" to the ways sysadmins do things? | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:11:13] <fzzzt> is there a tagline contest? | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:11:31] <fzzzt> benkevan: puppet probably has lots of features your script(s) don't have | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:11:36] <paxos> benkevan: http://docs.reductivelabs.com/references/stable/type.html | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:11:40] <fzzzt> er | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:11:41] <fzzzt> paxos: | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:11:52] <fzzzt> or whomever asked :P | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:11:57] * fzzzt goes back to debug logs | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:11:59] <paxos> check out that link for what puppet can manage.. | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:12:10] <benkevan> rom a quick look.. yes it probably does.. I'll give it a peak.. | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:13:46] <fzzzt> Bah! $fqdn == '...' works but $fqdn =~ /.../ doesn't | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:16:10] <duritong> joe-mac: mpdehaan: the lazy generation isn't voting or already at the pub! | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:16:22] <joe-mac> haha | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:18:00] <mpdehaan> seriously :) | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:20:04] <fzzzt> heh | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:20:13] <fzzzt> seems like if i use something starting with p, it doesn't work | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:20:18] <fzzzt> e.g. /p/ /pupp/ | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:20:23] <fzzzt> but /<an ything else> works | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:21:28] <themurph-work> Hey all, I'm getting an error of a source not existing. But it is purposefully not there. I have a source list like so: http://pastie.org/811464 (error message included) | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:21:38] <themurph-work> Basically I just want it to go throught the list until it finds a match but it's not working, in this case the default sudoers file. | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:22:39] <rlpowell> I think I've asked this before, but: Is there a way to do "If this package isn't installed, don't fix it, and don't bother trying to do these other things over here"? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:25:06] <eric0> themurph-work: your path is wrong for 0.25, it needs puppet:///modules/sudo/ | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:25:07] <duritong> .win 4 | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:25:10] <duritong> bleh | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:25:26] <bkero> russell_h: sucker | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:25:44] <themurph-work> eric0: ok, thanks. I'll give it a try. | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:26:36] <fzzzt> heh | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:26:39] <fzzzt> same error on 0.25.4 | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:26:41] <fzzzt> wth! | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:27:52] <fzzzt> what are good debug settings for puppetmasterd? I can't see what's causing this problem with --trace --verbose --debug :/ | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:28:03] <eric0> fzzzt: might be a bug but its very easy to work around, just collapse both your regexp into $fqdn =~ /(host[1234]|puppet)/ | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:29:17] <fzzzt> http://pastie.org/811491 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:29:23] <fzzzt> eric0: I have that currently | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:30:29] <fzzzt> technically, I have: if ($environment == 'testing') or ($fqdn =~ /(repo[1256]|puppet)\.myorg\.org/) { | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:33:44] <themurph-work> eric0: No dice, Could not retrieve information from source(s) puppet:///modules/sudo/sudoers.git.example.com, puppet:///modules/sudo/sudoers | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:40:46] <fzzzt> ah, anything that seems to match, doesn't work.. /puppet/ doesn't but /mpuppet/ and /puppetm/ do | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:40:56] <fzzzt> weird | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:42:07] <eric0> themurph-work: hm cause i think i'm doing that in one or two places and it works ok | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:43:00] <paxos> I think this bug: http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2797 is still present in 0.25.3 | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:43:11] <paxos> what is the best way to re-open? | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:43:57] <themurph-work> eric0: I am too, all over the place, that's the weird thing. I started noticing it yesterday when I made a change to the default sudoers file. | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:47:37] <kc7zzv> I'm having trouble with the puppet wiki. I was adding an example to the FAQ and the wiki keeps giving me errors. http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#syntax-error-at-expected-at-manifest-pp-nnn | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:56:48] <ahasenack> Volcane: hey, did you ever get to write a /etc/facts.d version? http://pastie.org/434393 :) | ||
| [2010/02/05 14:58:12] <fzzzt> Are resource names allowed to strat with numbers? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 14:59:07] <fzzzt> start* | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:02:10] <Insyte> fzzzt: I'm not sure about resources, but prior to 0.24.6 you couldn't start classes with numbers. | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:02:20] <Insyte> The language reference doesn't specifically address resources. | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:05:28] <fzzzt> It was working fine, so I suppose it's at least technically possible | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:05:46] <fzzzt> i proved my theory wrong anyway so i'm confident it *should* work with a 0 in the name | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:05:58] <fzzzt> submitted a bug... | ||
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| [2010/02/05 15:09:12] <gepetto> ::trac:: Frequently Asked Questions edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?version=75 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 15:28:01] <fzzzt> Is there a description of the namespaces in namespaceauth.conf? I'm not sure what to limit where... | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:28:22] <fzzzt> It seems like I would want runner to allow my puppet server for puppetrun, and everything else to be the client system only | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:28:37] <fzzzt> (for the client) | ||
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| [2010/02/05 15:41:09] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet Presentations edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetPresentations?version=19 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 15:51:27] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet Presentations edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetPresentations?version=20 | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:51:27] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet Presentations edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetPresentations?version=21 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 15:55:38] <strangeloop> hi there | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:55:57] <strangeloop> migrated to 0.25 eventually, the speedup is really great! | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:56:32] <strangeloop> also begun to migrate module file sources as well to have /modules/ in pathname | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:56:45] <strangeloop> but as soon as i do this i get "err: Not authorized to call find on /file_metadata/..." | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:57:14] <strangeloop> cannot quite find the right solution on the mailinglsit archive or the bug tracker | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:57:47] <joe-mac> yea the speed ups were everywhere | ||
| [2010/02/05 15:57:52] <joe-mac> for me at least | ||
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| [2010/02/05 16:06:13] <strangeloop> foun it, my bad, it's too late here :) | ||
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| [2010/02/05 16:09:59] <thomas54321> is line {} built into puppet 0.25, and if so, where can i find documentation on it | ||
| [2010/02/05 16:11:35] <thomas54321> trying to modify existing config files instead of replacing them | ||
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| [2010/02/05 16:16:18] <joe-mac> thomas54321: this is either a custom define you'veseen somewhere or you're talking about the augeas types | ||
| [2010/02/05 16:16:36] <thomas54321> gotcha, thanks | ||
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| [2010/02/05 16:19:00] <svend> Does 'notify' imply 'before'? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 16:51:09] <eric0> ./topic #puppet <joe-mac> SSL has probably caused more suicides than drugs, first semester at MIT, and chronic depression combined. | ||
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| [2010/02/05 16:53:43] <joe-mac> lol | ||
| [2010/02/05 16:53:53] <joe-mac> svend: no, notify does not affect dependency ordering | ||
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| [2010/02/05 16:55:37] <svend> Does that mean the 'notify' example here should have ordering specified? http://docs.reductivelabs.com/references/stable/metaparameter.html | ||
| [2010/02/05 16:56:18] <eric0> no..? why would it? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 16:57:22] <eric0> puppet can check to ensure that sshd is running, some time later update sshd_config, and when sshd_config updates send a restart message to the service provider for sshd | ||
| [2010/02/05 16:57:45] <svend> Coudn't the service restart before the file is in place? | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:02:02] <eric0> it could be inefficient, if it was stopped at the beginning of puppet run, it would be started due to ensure=>running then restarted after config is updated. | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:02:28] <hacim> has anyone figured out how to get a virtual fact to work for KVM instances? | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:05:19] <Insyte> Which fileserver.conf module applies to the 'files' directory in modules? | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:15:27] <russell_h> can the '+=' operater be used to append to a string variable? | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:20:10] <rmiller4pi8> hacim: does it load any special drivers into the guest? if so, you could just check for those | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:22:09] <Insyte> Why do I get a deprecation notice on this source? The module is "syslog-ng". puppet:///syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf | ||
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| [2010/02/05 17:22:31] <Insyte> And the file is in modules/syslog-ng/files/ | ||
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| [2010/02/05 17:23:50] <Insyte> 0.25.3 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 17:25:10] <eric0> you need to include puppet:///modules/syslog-ng/ | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:25:19] <eric0> s/include/specify/ | ||
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| [2010/02/05 17:25:38] <Insyte> D'oh. | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:25:55] <Insyte> I understood that to mean the word 'module' should be replaced with the module name... | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:25:59] <Insyte> :) | ||
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| [2010/02/05 17:27:35] <hacim> i'm trying to allow this guest to auth, but puppetmsater is saying: Forbidden request: access to /certificate_revocation_list/ca [find] at line 93 | ||
| [2010/02/05 17:28:17] <hacim> i've got that IP in the filerserver.conf set to allow | ||
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| [2010/02/05 18:41:46] <svend> I'm getting an error from a define: Could not match ' apache2::site ( $ensure = "present" ) {' at... | ||
| [2010/02/05 18:42:30] <|Mike|> rgrep "apache2::site". | ||
| [2010/02/05 18:42:35] <|Mike|> rgrep "apache2::site" . | ||
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| [2010/02/05 18:43:44] <svend> Here's the file that contains apache2::site: http://pastie.org/811874 | ||
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| [2010/02/05 18:45:04] <|Mike|> that ain't going to work. | ||
| [2010/02/05 18:45:22] <svend> NM, I had cut-and-paste, and the spaces were messed up | ||
| [2010/02/05 18:46:37] <|Mike|> class "apache2::site" { | ||
| [2010/02/05 18:46:41] <|Mike|> include apache2 | ||
| [2010/02/05 18:46:58] <|Mike|> file {..... } | ||
| [2010/02/05 18:47:05] <|Mike|> } | ||
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| [2010/02/05 18:48:51] <svend> It seems to be working now. Are there other problems with it? | ||
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| [2010/02/05 18:50:43] <|Mike|> you can't add a require => present to an include imho. | ||
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| [2010/02/05 19:11:41] <Stuttergart_> I have a very simple module that attempts to do nothing other than purge the non-systems users and remove their home directories | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:11:45] <Stuttergart_> all of the code is in init.pp | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:11:50] <Stuttergart_> and is available here: | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:11:55] <Stuttergart_> http://pastebin.com/d7184661b | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:12:36] <Stuttergart_> when the module is imported into the node, the users are removed from /etc/passwd but home directories are not removed. | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:12:38] <Stuttergart_> Not sure why | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:12:46] <Stuttergart_> any assistance would be greatly appreciated. | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:13:17] <|Mike|> you could build in an exec :) | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:14:01] <Stuttergart_> Mike: I suppose. But I think I this should be possible w/o so I'm trying to understand what I'm doing wrong. | ||
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| [2010/02/05 19:15:06] <|Mike|> Stuttergart_: i agree on that. | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:16:06] <Stuttergart_> So, I set the default value for the managehome param to true for the user type | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:16:33] <Stuttergart_> and then I don't really understand the "resources" keyword. That's from a snippet I found somewhere | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:16:50] <Stuttergart_> I've not been able to grok it exactly after reading the language reference | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:18:09] <|Mike|> You should really read the Type Reference and language page | ||
| [2010/02/05 19:18:34] <Stuttergart_> yes, I've read both | ||
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| [2010/02/05 23:47:08] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet Presentations edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetPresentations?version=22 | ||
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