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| [2010/01/20 00:21:21] <tessier__> So I've got a basic puppet config going and I've read the intro to puppet and I have the Pulling Strings with Puppet book...but one thing I haven't seen covered: I want to copy my sudoers file to all machines *except* these two. I have a class sudo which is included by node basenode which is inherited by node default | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:23:43] <lwhalen> do those two machines have their own special sudoers? | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:23:50] <lwhalen> or do you just want them to have defaults? | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:24:04] <chadh> tessier__: you can subclass your sudo class and File { '/etc/sudoers': ensure => absent, } | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:24:24] <chadh> tessier__: sorry, probably don't want it absent, but you could set a different source/content | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:24:28] <lwhalen> chadh: really? how do you subclass it? | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:25:07] <chadh> class customsudo inherits sudo { } | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:25:38] <lwhalen> but how do you apply it to just those two 'weird' nodes, if baseclass applies to them as well? | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:26:03] <tessier__> lwhalen: These two machines have their own special sudoers | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:26:17] <tessier__> I already have all of my machines getting pushed a default sudoers. | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:26:28] <lwhalen> tessier: what I do is, I define my File => source as an array of three different files | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:26:32] <lwhalen> one sec, incoming pastebin | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:26:38] <tessier__> lwhalen: Thanks! | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:27:15] <lwhalen> not quite as clean as some of my later classes, but it works: | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:27:16] <lwhalen> http://pastebin.com/d7db7c558 | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:27:36] <lwhalen> that file method, with the source:/// paths in an array, are what you want | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:27:44] <chadh> tessier__: yeah, you probably want something like lwhalen is describing. to do what I was saying, you wouldn't be able to include sudo in the base class | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:27:59] <tessier__> chadh: Right, thanks! | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:28:21] <lwhalen> it'll try the first path, if/when it fails it'll try the second. If/when that fails, it'll try the last one, and only THEN (if that last file doesn't exist) will puppetd throw an error | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:29:01] <lwhalen> so you would make a subdirectory /etc/puppet/modules/sudo/weirdhost1/ and stick weirdhost1's sudoers file in there | ||
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| [2010/01/20 00:31:40] <lwhalen> aww man chad, you got me all excited about being able to override things on a per-server basis from within my original class :-p | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:32:49] <chadh> lwhalen: :) polymorphism would be pretty cool | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:36:17] <lwhalen> anyone here familiar with puppet-dashboard? | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:36:35] <chadh> not me. just got foreman going | ||
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| [2010/01/20 00:36:42] <lwhalen> preferably geting puppet-dashboard up and running on a CentOS box? one that has ruby 1.8.5 and stubbornly doesn't like 1.8.6? | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:36:54] <lwhalen> ahh, any reason you chose foreman over puppet-dashboard? | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:37:12] <chadh> well, when I decided on foreman, there was no puppet-dashboard for one | ||
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| [2010/01/20 00:37:39] <chadh> Ohad's plans are in line with my needs, though, and he is further along | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:37:56] <lwhalen> ahh, cool | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:38:23] <chadh> I don't know a lot about the dashboard, though. I read the original announcement, but I haven't looked at it | ||
| [2010/01/20 00:39:33] <lwhalen> ahh ok | ||
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| [2010/01/20 01:15:32] <ohadlevy> chadh: are you missing any features? :) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 01:18:49] <chadh> ohadlevy: I am still figuring out exactly what is there. I'll definitely let you know | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:19:10] <ohadlevy> chadh: which parts are you using already? | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:19:59] <chadh> I have installed it in a completely clean environment that is about to have >800 hosts, so I am particularly interested in the provisioning and external nodes | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:20:09] <ohadlevy> ok, cool | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:20:24] <ohadlevy> I guess its best to run it with passenger or something similar | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:20:27] <chadh> I have two hosts right now, and I am just starting to see what is there | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:20:48] <ohadlevy> ok - have fun :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:21:17] <chadh> I really like starting over from scratch. I didn't really have a clue when I set up our other environment | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:24:20] <chadh> ohadlevy: for foreman to get at puppet reports (I am planning to use foreman reports, but right now am playing with rrds), do I need to make the reports directory available via http, or can I use the same vhost that I am using for passenger? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 01:24:45] <chadh> (I mean, can I just put the directory directive in the ssl vhost, or do I need to make a non-ssl one? | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:24:51] <chadh> ) | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:25:18] <ohadlevy> chadh: i think it would work with https, if not, its just one char to change in the app/views/hosts/_rrdreport.html.erb file ;) | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:25:34] <ohadlevy> fyi - the edge version of foreman generates the graph directly | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:26:07] <chadh> ohadlevy: oh, right. I'll snag the edge | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:26:28] <ohadlevy> there is also support for exlookup kind of support there too | ||
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| [2010/01/20 01:32:34] <chadh> ohadlevy: another quick q. I had to run a rake task to import fact and host data. Do I have to do that every time a host checks in (autosign)? | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:33:13] <ohadlevy> chadh: do you have more than one puppetmaster? | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:33:29] <chadh> no | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:33:56] <ohadlevy> did you have a look at the puppet foreman module? | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:34:11] <ohadlevy> there is a cronjob definition there which handles the update of facts | ||
| [2010/01/20 01:34:37] <chadh> ohadlevy: gotcha. I'll take a look. I did a manual install so far | ||
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| [2010/01/20 02:20:29] <mbn_18> morning, how can I execute ifconfig on a linux box if a specific interface is down? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 02:33:03] <ohadlevy> mbn_18: what do you mean? | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:33:37] <mbn_18> I need to bring up an interfece ( eth0:1) | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:34:08] <mbn_18> The first atep I did is to add the ifconfig command to rc.local file. So it will load on boot | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:34:30] <mbn_18> But I need somehow to activate it after a change | ||
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| [2010/01/20 02:35:35] <ohadlevy> mbn_18:which os are you using? | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:35:43] <mbn_18> Linux CentOS | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:35:44] <mbn_18> 5.3 | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:35:53] <ohadlevy> so thats not the best way | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:36:02] <ohadlevy> the right way (IMHO) is to edit /etc/sysconfig/networks | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:36:09] <ohadlevy> and then trigger service network reload/restart | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:37:16] <littleidea> mbn_18: Listen to Ohad, but you could do what you intended using 'exec' to call ifconfig with 'onlyif' or 'unless' to test the interface. | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:38:17] <mbn_18> In this case I follow RedHat docs about how to do that. though I can go around and add /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0:1 | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:39:02] <henk> mbn_18: redhat docs say, you should put an ifconfig command in rc.local to bring up the interface? | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:39:39] <mbn_18> henk: -> http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Virtual_Server_Administration/s2-lvs-direct-arptables-VSA.html | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:40:42] <henk> oh... | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:41:06] <henk> good to know that the redhat way of configuring network interfaces is so limited... | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:41:27] <mbn_18> So is puppet, no Network type :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:43:55] <henk> mbn_18: ack... but i was rather comparing it to debian, than to puppet ;) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 02:44:21] <mbn_18> henk: though what ohad suggested is reasonable. I can add a file ifcfg-eth0:1 to the right dir | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:44:49] <mbn_18> Debian is cool. no doubt | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:45:02] <henk> mbn_18: i thought this sentence means that that is NOT possible: As previously noted, the virtual IP addresses can not be configured to start on boot using the Red Hat system configuration tools. One way to work around this issue is to place these commands in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:45:45] <mbn_18> henk: I think its possible but maybe not recommended | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:46:27] <henk> mbn_18: ah ok... good luck and have fun. i never had either with centos... | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:47:14] <mbn_18> maybe the problem is in the order. maybe aprtables need to be load before the interface | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:47:58] <ohadlevy> mbn_18: to eat my own hat, I realize I did something similar in a vmware installation http://pastie.org/786073 | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:48:37] <mbn_18> ohadlevy: quite a shortcut. thanks | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:48:55] <ohadlevy> hmm.. and on a second look that whole test part is not required (refresh );) | ||
| [2010/01/20 02:54:36] <mbn_18> Cool, checking | ||
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| [2010/01/20 03:01:38] <rlpowell> So I was getting deprecation notices. So I "fixed" the /modules thing. Now I'm getting: err: //base/File[/root/bin/validate-rsync]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Could not retrieve information from source(s) puppet:///modules/base/validate-rsync at /etc/puppet/modules/base/manifests/init.pp:71 | ||
| [2010/01/20 03:01:43] <rlpowell> On the clients. | ||
| [2010/01/20 03:02:03] <rlpowell> -_- | ||
| [2010/01/20 03:02:51] <henk> rlpowell: and that client is which version? | ||
| [2010/01/20 03:03:12] <rlpowell> 0.25.1 | ||
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| [2010/01/20 03:03:38] <rlpowell> Just restarted the server in case I was somehow running an old version; I don't see how, though. | ||
| [2010/01/20 03:04:16] <rlpowell> Nope, still broken. | ||
| [2010/01/20 03:04:31] <rlpowell> All clients and server are 0.25.1, from Debian packages (although probably not the same Debian point releases) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 03:32:46] <mbn_18> thanks, script works great. this whole LVS is quite a delicate mambo jambo | ||
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| [2010/01/20 03:58:01] <jhp> Hi everyone. I'm currently doing a quickscan for a configuration management tool, and I know puppet to be a good one, but my colleges want to know if there are other alternatives. | ||
| [2010/01/20 03:58:11] <jhp> Is there anyone here that can point me to some? | ||
| [2010/01/20 03:58:57] <rlpowell> cfengine and chef are the other two biggies I'm aware of. | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:04:37] <henk> jhp: bcfg2 | ||
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| [2010/01/20 04:16:08] <ssm> jhp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_configuration_management_software | ||
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| [2010/01/20 04:47:07] <rlpowell> How do I force puppet to actually do stuff? | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:47:27] <rlpowell> That is, to do all the things it would normally only do once every half hour or whatever it is? | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:48:33] <henk> rlpowell: i usually just restart puppetd | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:48:33] <xerxas1> rlpowell: have a look at puppetrun | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:49:14] <rlpowell> In both cases: that does the same thing sa "puppetd -tv", no? | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:49:17] <xerxas1> pupppetrun is run on the puppetmaster, you specify on node, the puppetmaster notifies the node it should go and take it's new configuration | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:49:33] <xerxas1> the node does it | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:49:46] <xerxas1> to do this you need to enable puppetrunner on the client node | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:50:05] <rlpowell> Does this cause different behaviour than manually running puppetd? Because that isn't doing what i want. | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:50:08] <xerxas1> then puppetd is listening on a port | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:50:36] <xerxas1> no, no differences | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:50:47] <xerxas1> I think so | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:51:07] <rlpowell> Yeah. That's the problem: puppet schedules most things every half hour. I'm running it repeatedly, every few minutes, for testing. | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:51:36] <rlpowell> Still can't get puppet:///modules/foo/bar to work. >:( | ||
| [2010/01/20 04:52:02] <rlpowell> (that's what I'm trying to test) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 05:08:37] <rlpowell> http://reductivelabs.com/static_files/TypeReference.html#id275 -- fwiw, it's the default schedule mentioned there that I'm talking obut. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 05:10:45] <rlpowell> I'd very much like to know how to over-ride that; simply creating a schedule named "puppet" doesn't seem to do it, for example. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:12:03] <monachus> puppetmaster certificate question - can i regenerate the puppetmaster certificate? mine is from ages ago when had one server, and it's the wrong CN - i'd like to regenerate it to be puppet.arces.net. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 05:16:04] <Volcane> all clients will need to be redone then | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:17:03] <avkvl> Hello, I'm using puppet 0.25.3 and I have some issues like this: debug: Service[puppet](provider=freebsd): Executing '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/puppetd onestart' | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:17:03] <avkvl> err: //puppetd/Service[puppet]/ensure: change from stopped to running failed: Could not set running on ensure: No child processes at /home/puppet/configuration/environments/production/puppetd/manifests/init.pp:87 | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:17:03] <avkvl> What does this this error mean and what can I do to fix this problem? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 05:38:35] <rlpowell> Umm. shouldn't a [modules] with no "allow" statements be impossible to get anything from? | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:38:50] <rlpowell> puppedmaster seems to be totally ignoring the perms listed in fileserver.conf? | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:41:59] <rlpowell> Ah. auth.conf wins, it seems. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:42:02] <rlpowell> Interesting. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 05:42:58] <GioGio> hi all | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:43:59] <masterzen> rlpowell: for fileserving if you use the default auth.conf, then fileserver.conf is used. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:44:27] <rlpowell> masterzen: Apparently not used in any useful sense, because I have no "allow" in fileserver.conf at all | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:44:30] <masterzen> rlpowell: _but_, if you have a [modules] section with nothing in it (or no [modules] section), it uses a default allow all. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:45:11] <rlpowell> ... But... THe website specifically says deny all isthe default? | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:45:12] <masterzen> rlpowell: hmm, now that I think about, it is possible that an empty [modules] means "do not allow" | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:45:20] <rlpowell> And "deny *" is rejected as a syntax error? | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:45:38] <masterzen> rlpowell: yes deny * doesn't exists, since as you said, it is the default | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:45:55] <masterzen> rlpowell: what do you observe? | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:46:08] <masterzen> rlpowell: and what do you have in auth.conf (if you have one)? | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:46:58] <rlpowell> auth.conf is what came with debian; in particular: | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:46:59] <rlpowell> path /file | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:46:59] <rlpowell> allow * | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:47:17] <masterzen> rlpowell: that means: allow everything, but pass along to fileserver.conf | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:47:21] <rlpowell> fileserver.conf is joust [modules] \n [plugins] | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:47:25] <rlpowell> Nothing else. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:47:40] <rlpowell> Files can be retrieved with no problems if the client is authenticated. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:48:16] <masterzen> rlpowell: add in filserver.conf something like [modules] allow 0.0.0.0/32 (or anything that match nothing) | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:48:55] <GioGio> do you know where i can find an 'official' package (.src.rpm) for fedora12 for the latest version of puppet ? | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:49:13] <masterzen> rlpowell: I think that puppet inserts a default rules for [modules]/[plugins] to allow everything if there is no [modules]/[plugins] section. And it might think there is none when it encounters an empty section. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:49:22] <Volcane> GioGio: the tarball you download has a rpm spec file in it so you can just builkd it | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:49:25] <masterzen> rlpowell: which is certainly a bug. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:49:57] <rlpowell> Better still, I've got a client that doesn't show up in "puppetca --list --all" that seems to be authenticating. I think; it's hard to tell because the server doesn't seem to actually say anything about auth, even in debug mode. -_- | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:50:30] <rlpowell> Yep, just saw it successfully grab a file. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:50:38] <GioGio> the last time i ask a question on this chan about compiling puppet, everybody tells me to directly download the rpm packages, that there is no need to recompile ;) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 05:52:24] <rlpowell> masterzen: Yep, you were right. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:53:08] <rlpowell> I'm *very* disturbed by the way this client seems tobe able to auth, though. -_- | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:53:21] <masterzen> rlpowell: can you file a bug about this empty [modules] stuff that means allow all instead of deny all? | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:53:57] <rlpowell> It's 02:53 here. Veeeeery tired and brain dead. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:54:14] <rlpowell> I will try to remember in the morning. | ||
| [2010/01/20 05:54:19] <masterzen> rlpowell: ok, thanks | ||
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| [2010/01/20 06:37:56] <newboo> hello | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:38:10] <newboo> how do i register to the puppet mailinglist? | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:38:17] <newboo> users mailing list that is | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:39:54] <newboo> do i really need a yahooaccount to use a mailinglist? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 06:40:44] <newboo1> i ment google id | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:41:40] <ssm> newboo1: looks like it, yes | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:42:13] <Volcane> no you dont | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:42:15] <newboo1> ssm: ok, never stumbled across something like that till now. ok, then ill have to google myself it seems. | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:42:15] <ssm> newboo1: you can read it at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users, without registering | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:42:28] <ssm> Volcane: you can sign up with a normal mail address as well? | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:42:45] <Volcane> i copy pasted | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:42:48] <Volcane> oops | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:43:10] <newboo1> ssm: well, i like using mailinglists the way they are supposed to. i dont like forums and stuff like that. eg. bad webinterfaces for what a emailclient can do really good. | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:43:19] <Volcane> email: groupname+subscribe@googlegroups.com | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:43:24] <Volcane> from any email and it subs you | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:43:26] <Volcane> no account needed | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:43:34] <newboo1> volcano: nice, thanks | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:43:47] <ssm> so just mail puppet-users+subscribe@googlegroups.com, then | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:44:40] <newboo1> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: puppet-users+subscribe@googlegroups.com Technical details of permanent failure: Join requires a valid Google account | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:44:51] <newboo1> well, ok, google is google, what can one say | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:45:03] <Volcane> hmm, thats odd | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:45:06] <Volcane> used to work | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:45:15] <Volcane> ask jamesturnbull maybe its a setting | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:45:22] <newboo1> volcano: well, google is known to like data very mucho | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:45:43] <Volcane> i signed up without a google account | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:46:08] <newboo1> volcano: i believe you. but as time goes bye, and google gets hungry... ;) | ||
| [2010/01/20 06:47:35] <newboo1> jamesturnbull: is it intentional that one needs a google account to use the puppet mailinglists? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 06:54:54] <newboo1> well | ||
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| [2010/01/20 07:13:41] <fluxdude> if one had to replace one's puppetmaster with a new one and the ssl cert on the puppetmaster changed, would this require corrective action on all of one's puppet controlled machines to remove the old master certs? | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:13:49] <fluxdude> is there a good way of handling this? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 07:15:26] <Volcane> fluxdude: yeah, you could just copy the certs though unless you are also changing hostnames etc? | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:15:50] <fluxdude> if I wanted to change hostnames this would be a big problem | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:16:02] <fluxdude> or if I wanted to access the existing server via a different hostname | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:16:09] <Volcane> do you access your master as 'puppet' or something else? | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:16:18] <fluxdude> puppet | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:16:33] <fluxdude> I probably wouldn't want to change that | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:16:51] <Volcane> k, should be possible then to copy them but will require some trial and error :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:16:54] <fluxdude> but there may be times when I want to access it via a different ip and an entry in /etc/hosts is the only way I can think to get around that | ||
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| [2010/01/20 07:25:27] <sheldonh> was the before metaparameter for types available before pupet 0.25? | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:25:35] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:25:39] <sheldonh> awesome | ||
| [2010/01/20 07:25:56] <sheldonh> now our scaffold classes can be completely invisible from within our ultimate classes | ||
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| [2010/01/20 07:27:07] <Volcane> scaffold classes? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 08:15:43] <sheldonh> before makes them awesome. we've got an exim4 class and an exim4::scaffold class. scaffold does things like a once-off copy of per-server customizations from /etc/exim into /etc/exim4. later, we just throw away exim4::scaffold | ||
| [2010/01/20 08:16:24] <sheldonh> so we fulfil the pragmatic requirement to roll out sequences of action, without sacrificing the value of declarative configuration | ||
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| [2010/01/20 08:16:55] <Volcane> yeah thats kewl, I've often campaigned for a way to just get puppet to run some class | ||
| [2010/01/20 08:16:55] <Volcane> without the need to have it included ont he host | ||
| [2010/01/20 08:17:20] <Volcane> so you can just do puppetd --runonly bootstrap | ||
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| [2010/01/20 08:17:26] <Volcane> it will go compile bootstrap class and just run it | ||
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| [2010/01/20 08:17:29] <Volcane> future runs wouldnt | ||
| [2010/01/20 08:17:31] <Volcane> but alas | ||
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| [2010/01/20 08:19:17] <akriventsov> does anyone use 0.25.3 with cron jobs? | ||
| [2010/01/20 08:19:23] <Volcane> its broken | ||
| [2010/01/20 08:19:29] <Volcane> 0.25.4 rcs fix it :( | ||
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| [2010/01/20 08:20:41] <akriventsov> Oh... Thanks | ||
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| [2010/01/20 08:58:01] <ptman> ok, how can I debug why a module isn't having any effect on a node? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:04:50] <zirpu> puppetd --noop -v | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:05:34] <zirpu> s/-v/-t/ | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:06:17] <ptman> unfortunately that doesn't tell me very much | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:07:15] <zirpu> add --debug that should tell you what it's doing. if it doesn't show the module being evaluated, then it doesn't think that node needs the module. | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:07:27] <zirpu> you are running 'puppetd --noop -t' on the node itself as root right? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:07:59] <ptman> I am | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:08:20] <ptman> nothing in the debug seems to stand out either | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:10:01] <ptman> it seems to only get the default node config, not the one that I've specified for it | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:10:39] <zirpu> how are you specifying it? did you reload the puppetmaster? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:11:02] <zirpu> i.e. are you using a node conf file, or an external node classifier? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:11:07] <ptman> node blah inherits default { include foo } | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:11:13] <ptman> node conf file | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:11:49] <joe-mac> ok anybody got .25+ on ubuntu using the .deb? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:11:52] <zirpu> restart the puppetmaster, it's probably not seeing the change. | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:12:04] <ptman> but here's the thing, previously I had a lot of definitions in the node -block, which I then moved to a class (module) | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:12:20] <joe-mac> files like that are noticed without restarting the puppetmaster | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:14:20] <Volcane> unless they're a file per node and imported with a glob | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:14:42] <ptman> no, all nodes in one file | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:16:26] <zirpu> touch puppet.conf to get puppetmaster to notice, or restart puppetmaster. | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:16:28] <Volcane> does the node name in the file correspond with what the master logs when it compiles the manifet? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:18:22] <ptman> where can I see that? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:18:33] <Volcane> on the master, in the syslogs | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:18:34] <ptman> masterhttp.log looks like the hostname matches | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:19:07] <ptman> and syslog/daemon.log also | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:19:44] <ptman> is it a problem that I'm using the same name for a node and a class? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:21:08] <ptman> yes, that was the problem | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:21:36] <ptman> when I put the fqdn in the node specification, it started working | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:21:55] <ptman> is that a bug or a known "feature"? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:22:03] <Volcane> not sure | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:22:38] <ptman> should I report it as a bug or take any other action? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:24:51] <Volcane> well assuming you restarted the master when we asked etc and it didnt help, then sure file a bug | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:24:57] <ptman> I did | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:26:54] <Guest7106> Hello - is anyone here to help with a puppet question? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:28:05] <joe-mac> well, this is #puppet | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:28:26] <joe-mac> aside from my sock puppet hobby, i sometimes do manage infrastructure :-) | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:28:27] <Guest7106> Hello, can you answer a question? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:28:34] <joe-mac> just ask it | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:28:39] <joe-mac> if i can't, someone will | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:29:04] <Guest7106> Ok, I am getting the following message on a client when running puppetd -t | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:30:18] <Guest7106> info: Retrieving plugin | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:30:18] <Guest7106> err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: 404 Not Found | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:30:21] <ptman> Volcane, http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3091 that good? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:32:33] <ptman> Volcane, joe-mac, zirpu, thank you all for your help with my problem! | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:35:46] <joe-mac> np | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:35:59] <joe-mac> Guest7106: no clue, what proxy are you using in front of puppet? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:37:43] <Guest7106> No proxy; all was well until I added a custom facter file. I watched puppetd download it and it's in /var/lib/puppet/... as it should be, then this 404 started coming up. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:46:16] <Guest7106> So is there a command I can run on the client to force a fresh reload of all resources? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:52:50] <Guest7106> cls | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:53:09] <joe-mac> Guest7106: try to remove the cache like /var/lib/puppet/state/*, then run puppetd -t and use pastie.org to show us the output | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:53:43] <joe-mac> wow, .25.3 compiles catalogs, *really* fast | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:53:52] <joe-mac> my simople nodes take .3 seconds | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:54:12] <joe-mac> jesus christ, i am like amazed right now | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:54:31] <Volcane> not seen an improvement in compile time | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:54:33] <Volcane> run time yes | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:55:46] <joe-mac> do you use stored configs Volcane? | ||
| [2010/01/20 09:56:03] <joe-mac> compiling i assume does some diff against the stored resources | ||
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| [2010/01/20 09:56:31] <joe-mac> i remember you were always against stored configs due to your clients being so geographically diverse, not really feasible for you | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:01:49] <henk> is it just over here or are the "styles" missing on that page: http://docs.reductivelabs.com/references/stable/configuration.html ? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:02:48] <joe-mac> hey guys i know i've seen someone ask about this in here warning: Value of 'preferred_serialization_format' (pson) is invalid for report, using default (b64_zlib_yaml), do i need to do something about that? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:03:34] <joe-mac> i also got notice: //nsca::client/File[/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_psv]/content: content changed '{md5}62cee82460d484aac53b0ba4fa84c829' to 'unknown checksum' | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:03:42] <joe-mac> unknown checksum is somehwat worrying | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:08:25] <joe-mac> omfg /etc/default/puppet now controls whether puppet starts or not on debian? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:08:29] <joe-mac> what a braindead idea | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:08:39] <joe-mac> i hope nigel didn't think of this, he's too smart to pull this | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:09:52] <henk> joe-mac: hate those files... | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:10:04] <joe-mac> henk: i hate the whole debian service model | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:10:16] <joe-mac> the init scripts, /etc/default, the init scripts functionality | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:10:25] <joe-mac> it all just sukcs shit, and i don't know why it hasn't been overhauled yet | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:10:49] <joe-mac> i'm doing ensure absent on that file | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:10:50] <henk> joe-mac: they are in the process of replacing it with upstart und insserv and stuff... | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:11:01] <henk> s/und/and/ | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:11:24] <joe-mac> henk: i think this is already using 'upstart', it's ubuntu 8.04 | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:11:45] <henk> yes, it is. upstart comes from canonical (ubuntu) afaik | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:11:47] <joe-mac> admittedly, i vaguely understand it. i know it's 'an event based start up system" | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:11:50] <Volcane> ubuntu has, like with so much, just make debian suck a lot more | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:12:18] <joe-mac> Volcane: i know. i weep softly because of this OS. I'm hoping eventually by RHEL6 to convince them here to migrate. | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:12:36] <henk> joe-mac: event and dependency based iirc... which init system is better in your opinion? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:13:00] <joe-mac> the one i';ve been using since i was 12, that has status options for each service | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:13:15] <joe-mac> ie, anything but debian | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:13:27] <Volcane> new debian mostly have status now, ubuntu still rubbish | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:13:52] <henk> joe-mac: it's still init... | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:14:02] <joe-mac> yea, that's my problem. i'm at work i have to stick with the 'stable' lts stuff, which still has all these init scripts with different options, almost none have 'status' | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:15:17] <henk> i can live without status most of the time... couldn't live with RH or centos :) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:19:07] <joe-mac> hey Volcane what should i do about that pson error? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:19:16] <Volcane> the "debug" one? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:19:57] <joe-mac> Value of 'preferred_serialization_format' (pson) is invalid for report, using default (b64_zlib_yaml) | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:19:58] <jb> ignore it | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:19:58] <jb> :/ | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:20:12] <Volcane> oh that,yeah its just spam | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:20:21] <joe-mac> ok, good, how about this one content changed '{md5}62cee82460d484aac53b0ba4fa84c829' to 'unknown checksum' | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:20:23] <Volcane> sucky sucky spam | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:20:30] <Volcane> also ok | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:20:40] <joe-mac> it's not going to fi ll up my filebucket? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:20:48] <Volcane> nah u shouldnt get it every run | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:21:59] <joe-mac> whoaaaa | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:22:23] <joe-mac> http://www.pastie.org/786561 | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:22:39] <Volcane> stored confs? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:23:13] <joe-mac> yes | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:23:28] <Volcane> recall some chatter here about that | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:23:37] <Volcane> but dont know what hte details were | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:23:44] <Volcane> masterzen prolly does | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:24:46] <masterzen> joe-mac: sorry, never got this error. | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:27:21] <joe-mac> dam, that sucks | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:28:11] <joe-mac> http://www.pastie.org/786568 | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:28:20] <joe-mac> now i am getting that from the client, thinking it might be an apche config | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:29:45] <nono> hello | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:29:56] <joe-mac> hello nono | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:30:23] <nono> I could not find the information in the doc wether nodes are exported autmatically ? Does anbody has an answer to this ? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:30:33] <nono> I mean to be able to collect them | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:32:17] <bug> going from 25.1 to 25.3, do i need to upgrade clients and server simultaneously? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:32:32] <bug> or should a 25.3 client be able to connect to a 25.1 server with no problems? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:32:32] <Volcane> dont use .3 | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:32:37] <Volcane> cron is broken | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:32:39] <bug> ah | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:32:43] <nono> you shuld update server first | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:32:56] <bug> so should a 25.4rc2 client ... | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:33:07] <Volcane> server first generally | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:33:08] <bug> and, that's an even better answer | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:33:10] <nono> I only had an issue with host_aliases | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:33:11] <bug> thx volcane, nono | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:34:48] <nono> so is there a way to create a variable that is an array of hostnames, those hostnames being a collection with a filter on a role variable ? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:34:48] <joe-mac> Volcane: how is cron broken? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:34:57] <Volcane> joe-mac: cant add new ones | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:35:59] <joe-mac> well let's hope i don't provision a new box for a few datys | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:39:30] <joe-mac> upgrading puppet gives me an adrenaline rush | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:43:52] <lwhalen> hey, is there a need for CentOS/HeadRat RPMs for puppet-0.25.3 and facter-1.5.7? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:44:17] <lwhalen> because I rolled some last night, pushed them to production, and "they haven't broken yet" :-) | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:44:36] <Volcane> .3 is a bit broken wrt cron | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:44:51] <Volcane> assume you just used the spec files that come in the tarballs right? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:44:57] <lwhalen> yes | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:45:07] <lwhalen> how broken is broken? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:45:16] <Volcane> cant make cronjobs | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:45:21] <lwhalen> grfo | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:45:24] <lwhalen> *gtfo | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:45:29] <lwhalen> what about existing cronjobs? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:45:38] <Volcane> they're ok - but probably cant be changed | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:45:46] <lwhalen> alright, good to know | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:45:56] <lwhalen> is there a patch for 25.3, or are we just waiting for .4? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:46:10] <swygue_> what's the best way to go about deploying a file once with puppet? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:46:28] <lwhalen> swygue_: probably File => | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:46:48] <jb> or exec maybe with onlyif | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:46:55] <jb> depending on what you want to do | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:47:03] <swygue_> basically, I want to have puppet deploy a config, but allow for local medication | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:47:05] <jb> or creates rather | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:47:17] <jb> does the config file support include's? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:47:20] <Volcane> the docs for file show you how | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:48:01] <swygue_> Volcane: I'm looking at the TypeReference, is that the doc your are referring to? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:48:24] <Volcane> yup | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:48:29] <Volcane> i think the option is replace | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:48:44] <jb> uhm | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:48:44] <jb> replace? | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:48:45] <Volcane> on file resource | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:48:50] <jb> hmm | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:48:59] <jb> ah yeah | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:49:05] <swygue_> yeah, I read that but I didn't understand it | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:49:07] <jb> didn't know about that one | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:49:30] <jb> i'm guessing that if replace => false, it won't be updated | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:50:06] <swygue_> Volcane: So it will replace a existing file with my file, but never update the file again | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:50:23] <Volcane> it will probably only put it there if not there already | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:50:26] <Volcane> why dont you try it? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:50:40] <swygue_> I will | ||
| [2010/01/20 10:50:45] <Al-P> Hi everyone, | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:52:58] <Al-P> has anyone ever used extended regex with regsubst? I'm trying to convert lower case letters to upper case. So far I have $environment_upper = regsubst($environment, '([a-z ]+)', '\U&', 'EG') but this just replaces the text with \U& - any ideas/alternative way? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:55:42] <swygue> Okay, replace => true, will always replace the file, and replace => flase, will deploy the file if it does not exist, but won't modify the file again | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:55:55] <jb> which is what we said :) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 10:56:41] <swygue> yeah, I was hoping I didn't have to use exec to grab the file | ||
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| [2010/01/20 11:01:40] * joe-mac barfs as he looks at how many source => lines have to be changed to have modules in them | ||
| [2010/01/20 11:01:51] <jb> script it :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 11:02:03] <joe-mac> yea going to have to | ||
| [2010/01/20 11:02:08] <joe-mac> this is what they make computers for i think | ||
| [2010/01/20 11:02:10] <joe-mac> ;-) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 11:10:54] <dhaza> is there an option for listing the changes which would be applied to a node, but not actually executing them? | ||
| [2010/01/20 11:11:16] <barn> --noop ? | ||
| [2010/01/20 11:11:52] <dhaza> great, thats exactly what i was looking for | ||
| [2010/01/20 11:11:58] <dhaza> i just didnt know what to call it | ||
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| [2010/01/20 11:17:39] <Al-P> anyone got any experience with regsubst? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 12:08:59] <Al-P> has anyone ever used extended regex with regsubst? I'm trying to convert lower case letters to upper case. So far I have $environment_upper = regsubst($environment, '([a-z ]+)', '\U&', 'EG') but this just replaces the text with \U& - any ideas/alternative way? | ||
| [2010/01/20 12:12:46] <robinbowes> ohadlevy: ? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 12:18:29] <tmz> Al-P: I have no idea if \U or & are supported by regsubst or not. One possible alternate might be to use inline_template('<%= variable.upcase %>') | ||
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| [2010/01/20 12:24:26] <Al-P> Thanks for the reply tmz. I thought about that but I need to make the variable available for a mount type | ||
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| [2010/01/20 12:53:13] <silfreed> question about using memorysize from facter in a template; what's the best way to do comparisons? | ||
| [2010/01/20 12:53:27] <silfreed> can I do stuff like 'if memorysize > '8 GB' then..' ? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 12:58:20] <tmz> silfreed: Yeah, I believe the comparison code does the right thing in that case. | ||
| [2010/01/20 12:58:51] <tmz> A quick test with 0.25.2 says so anyway. | ||
| [2010/01/20 12:59:48] <silfreed> tmz: unfortunately, I'm not seeing that on 0.24.8; I wouldn't think a puppet version would make a difference in this case | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:00:11] <barn> yeah, the DSLR gets updated quite a lot | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:00:18] <barn> DSL, not the camera | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:00:55] <silfreed> :P | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:01:33] <barn> I wondered how it would deal with "128megs vs. 8gigs" though | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:01:43] <barn> so I wrote my own fact, to print it in megs regardless | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:01:49] <silfreed> barn: right, that's what I'm concerned with | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:02:20] <silfreed> looking at util/memory.rb, it returns a string, not an object | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:02:44] <barn> silfreed: http://pastie.org/786801 is what I do | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:04:23] <silfreed> barn: thanks; looks very similar to the facter version just w/ raw numbers ;) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:04:32] <silfreed> I don't know why facter would not return something you could compare against | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:04:41] <barn> yup! but it makes it really easy to compare against (: | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:04:47] <silfreed> it's not a very useful "fact" | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:06:07] <tmz> silfreed: It does work for me on 0.24.8 as well. Comparing 1 MB against 1 GB doesn't do the right thing, as barn noted. :/ | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:06:23] <silfreed> tmz: yeah, that's what I'd be afraid of | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:06:26] <silfreed> it's doing a string comparison | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:07:28] <tmz> I believe it does do some numberic comparison, else it would botch versions. It just doesn't magically treat MB and GB special. | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:08:21] <silfreed> versions could be ruby objects that implement >, <, etc | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:11:46] <silfreed> I got it working w/ barn's fact, thanks! | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:16:33] <joe-mac> is this supposed to be expected Mysql::Error: MySQL server has gone away: DELETE FROM `param_values` WHERE (`id` IN ('81400','81401')) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:24:24] <jb> argh, so annoying that EL5's sudo doesn't support includedir | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:24:40] <jb> i'm either going to have to roll out new sudo packages or figure another way out to manage sudoers.. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:24:53] <jrojas> jb: they didnt start adding the include until sudo 7. something | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:24:57] <jb> 1.7.2 | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:25:02] <jrojas> there ya go | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:25:10] <jrojas> ldap based sudoers works for me | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:25:28] <jb> however | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:25:28] <jb> The ) is used to indicate a comment (unless it is part of a #include directive or unless itpound #sign ( | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:25:29] <jb> occurs in the contex | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:25:34] <jb> thats in the manpage for 1.6.9 | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:25:35] <jb> which is odd | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:25:43] <jrojas> yeah | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:30:48] <tonyskapunk> +1 to ldap sudoers | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:30:51] <brothers> How can I be sure class foo is evaluated before class bar? foo sets a variable that's used by a template in bar. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:31:56] <silfreed> brothers: unless bar inherits foo, you're not going to see that var, afaik | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:32:40] <tmz> There is <%= scope.lookupvar('apache::user') %>. | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:33:28] <tmz> And you can use require => Class[foo] in the resource that needs the variable. | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:33:56] <silfreed> see, tmz knows better :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:34:32] <tmz> Haha, don't believe it. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:36:28] <joe-mac> i am getting this Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Mounts without paths are not usable Could not describe /modules/puppet/namespaceauth.conf | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:36:40] <joe-mac> do i need to add files as well as 'modules' | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:36:46] <joe-mac> (fopr the switch to .25) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:36:59] <fsweetser> joe-mac: 0.25 server and 0.24 client? | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:37:18] <joe-mac> nah, shuold all be .25 | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:37:36] <joe-mac> also getting a lot of Mysql::Error: MySQL server has gone away: SELECT * FROM `hosts` WHERE (`hosts`.`name` = 'hostedconsole-demo02.osdc.bos.rapid7.com') LIMIT 1 | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:38:03] <fsweetser> what version of puppetmaster and activerecord? | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:38:46] <joe-mac> activerecord 2.1 and puppetmaster .25.3 | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:39:17] <fsweetser> try upgrading activerecord to 2.3 | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:39:38] <fsweetser> it supports the reconnect parameter, which puppet 0.25.3 uses, which should make those errors go away | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:39:44] <joe-mac> something is fucked, the client says .24.8 starting | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:39:58] <fsweetser> that would explain the first error | ||
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| [2010/01/20 13:45:53] <joe-mac> o ffs | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:46:01] <joe-mac> i frogot some of these machines are still on dapper | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:46:26] <fsweetser> well, on the plus side, that means you're not crazy =) | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:47:00] <joe-mac> lol | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:47:11] <joe-mac> brb my ssh agent also shit itself | ||
| [2010/01/20 13:47:37] <joe-mac> idk why when it shits itself it does it so epically, another problem for another day i guess | ||
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| [2010/01/20 14:08:44] <cmdln> Its been a while since I have messed with my puppet nodes, Just was updating some things today and I am now getting an error while trying to serve files from modules | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:09:06] <cmdln> fileserver.conf has [modules] allow * | ||
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| [2010/01/20 14:27:10] <joe-mac> Volcane: do you plan on getting mcollective into debian? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 14:45:49] <joe-mac> hey fsweetser when you suggested updating rails was there a reason behind it specifically or just a gut feeling? | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:46:51] <fsweetser> I had those same mysql disconnects, and fixed them by telling puppet to send a reconnect parameter to activerecord | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:47:08] <fsweetser> however, the reconnect parameter is a few feature in AR 2.3 | ||
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| [2010/01/20 14:55:10] <joe-mac> fsweetser: yea, problem is i went to build rails 2.3 and i got bitched out | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:56:22] <fsweetser> doh | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:56:43] <fsweetser> though looking, I don't even actually have rails installed - just activesupport and activerecord | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:57:33] <joe-mac> yea | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:57:39] <joe-mac> this problem has got to be known | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:57:45] <joe-mac> maybe a mysql tweaking problem | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:57:54] <fsweetser> there are a couple of redmine tickets open on it | ||
| [2010/01/20 14:58:08] <fsweetser> I don't think anyone found the real root cause, just fixed the glitch with the reconnect option | ||
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| [2010/01/20 15:04:26] <Cyis> when using the Nagios types in puppet config... is it possible to change the base path of all the configs short of changing the target on each one? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 15:05:26] <joe-mac> Cyis: you make a define, with a variable in each one | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:05:28] <joe-mac> it is teh suck | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:05:57] <Cyis> ok... that's what I figured... was trying to dig around in the code before asking and that was the conclusion I was coming to | ||
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| [2010/01/20 15:13:17] <Guest67215> Can someone offer advice on using the file type with recursion? | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:13:29] <jrojas> Guest67215: dont? :P | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:13:52] <Guest67215> Better to call rsync then? | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:14:01] <jrojas> depends on the amount of files | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:14:19] <Guest67215> Say 500. | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:14:31] <Guest67215> With lots of subdirectories and symlinks | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:14:38] <jrojas> ew. | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:14:49] <Guest67215> It's a web-site | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:14:52] <jrojas> yeah rsync may work but im not sure if puppet has ane xecute timeout | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:16:02] <Guest67215> So the problem I'm having with file with recursion is that I'm getting error 400 - not authorized to call search on ... | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:16:23] <jrojas> sounds like an auth.conf issue | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:16:34] <Guest67215> the client. Is it a fileserver.conf or auth.conf issue (error 400?) | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:17:04] <Guest67215> So auth.conf takes precedence over fileserver.conf in puppet 0.25.1 ? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 15:33:02] <rlpowell> Now that more people are here: http://reductivelabs.com/static_files/TypeReference.html#id275 implies that by default, most puppet stuff is only done once every half hour. How do I override thatfor testing purpsose? | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:34:51] <whack> rlpowell: it runs as often as your run interval | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:35:06] <whack> but you can 'do it now' with 'puppetd --test' | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:35:21] <whack> in fact, many folks run puppetd that way from cron | ||
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| [2010/01/20 15:37:45] <mmitchell> is there a way to use the file resource, and provide the content within your manifest? | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:37:48] <mmitchell> as in a string? | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:38:30] <BarnacleBob> file{"/tmp/foo": content=>"asdf"} | ||
| [2010/01/20 15:38:54] <BarnacleBob> http://reductivelabs.com/static_files/TypeReference.html#file | ||
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| [2010/01/20 15:44:03] <mmitchell> got it thanks! :) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 15:55:28] <rlpowell> whack: OK. I was doing puppetd -tv, but it didn't seem to be doing everything. That is probably just my system being hosed in other ways, it turns out. Thanks! | ||
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| [2010/01/20 16:04:58] <jrojas> eric0: which doc did you follow the other day for the puppetmaster chained CA cert? | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:05:55] <eric0> sorta wiki:PuppetScalability and wrote my own, but it's not working so dont follow me into the quicksand :P | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:05:56] <gepetto> eric0: wiki:PuppetScalability is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetScalability | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:06:06] <jrojas> ha | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:06:09] <jrojas> damn. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 16:06:40] <kim0> Hi folks, I'm setting up a new server, and I would love to use puppet to track its config changes | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:06:58] <kim0> however, my problem, is that I'm new to puppet and thus will be slow (and the boss is waiting) | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:07:33] <kim0> is there anyway, to do the configuration work manually at first, however, have someway to track those changes and export them as puppet manifests afterwards ? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 16:12:27] <eric0> jrojas: i can send you what i've got, tis more detail than the wiki..whats yr email? | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:13:45] <jrojas> jason.r.rojas@gmail.com will work | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:14:12] <jrojas> ive finally hit my invisible wall with my puppetmaster, need to load balance them | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:14:41] <jrojas> eric0: what isnt working for you in your setup? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 16:28:09] <mmitchell> how can i ensure a directory exists, create it if needed, before i do something else? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 16:29:27] <jrojas> whateverelse { thing: require => File["/path/of/dir"] | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:29:47] <mmitchell> jrojas: thank you | ||
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| [2010/01/20 16:30:51] <mmitchell> jrojas: so what is "thing" for? Just a label? | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:31:03] <aliver> If I want to trigger a "package" type within a class only if a file does not exist, how can I do that? Do I subscribe the package type to a file type within a class? | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:31:58] <jrojas> mmitchell: more relevant: package { "subversion-client": ensure => installed, require => File["/opt"]; } | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:32:34] <mmitchell> jrojas: oh i see, go it. | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:32:43] <mmitchell> i meant got it :) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 16:35:25] <aliver> ahhh | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:35:28] <aliver> ensure => installed | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:35:30] <aliver> perfect | ||
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| [2010/01/20 16:36:23] <aliver> The only issue for me is that on some of my hosts the package was installed with EPM (it's Netbackup) rather than with RPM. Puppet has no knowledge of EPM's packages. So, I only want to install the RPM version of the Netbackup client if there is no /usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf file. | ||
| [2010/01/20 16:36:28] <aliver> Is that kind of thing possible? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 16:41:28] <joe-mac> hmm the init script for .25.3 on ubuntu doesn't actually stop puppet | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:05:38] <Djelibeybi> tmz: ping? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:10:01] <tmz> Djelibeybi: Yes? | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:10:20] <Djelibeybi> tmz: are the 0.25.3 RPMs in fedora-testing? Or do I have to download them from somewhere? | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:10:34] * Djelibeybi is prepping for a Puppet tutorial with jamesturnbull tomorrow. | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:11:02] <jb> its in epel-testing | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:11:11] <jb> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/testing/5Server/i386/puppet-0.25.3-1.el5.noarch.rpm | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:11:25] <Djelibeybi> jb: I'm running Fedora 12, not EL5. | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:11:29] <tmz> Djelibeybi: They're in updates-testing. A 0.25.3-2 package with the upstream revert to fix the cron jobs is on its way. | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:11:39] <Djelibeybi> tmz: lovely, ta. | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:12:06] <tmz> Djelibeybi: Sure thing, have fun with the tutorial. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:51:19] <zahna> can a whole Class[] be required? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:51:34] <jrojas> zahna: have you tried it? | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:51:55] <zahna> yes, and it doesn't throw errors, but the resulting system indicates that it doesn't work. | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:52:11] <jrojas> it may not be requiring like you are expecting it to. | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:52:21] <jrojas> is the class also included for the node? | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:52:44] <zahna> it must be or it would complain | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:52:46] <zahna> let me check | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:52:57] <jrojas> grep classname localconfig.yaml | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:52:59] <jrojas> on the node | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:53:11] <zahna> yes, it is | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:53:30] <zahna> oh, i checked /etc/puppet/manifests/nodes.pp | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:53:33] <jrojas> hm. are you trying to set the order in which the classes run? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:53:55] <zahna> i'm trying to have the resources in a class run before a certain resource is run | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:54:15] <zahna> my exact situation is that i want my gems sources to be set before the gem is installed | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:54:25] <zahna> because i want the gem to be fetched from my local repo | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:54:27] <jrojas> require => [ File["blah"], Package["bla2"] ] | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:55:20] <himynameisthor> is it possible to have an argument to define set as optional? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:55:52] <himynameisthor> for example, define my_user($password), where $password is optional? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:56:39] <proton> himynameisthor: give it a default value: define my_user($password = "foo") | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:56:40] <BarnacleBob> define my_user($password=""){ | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:56:46] <himynameisthor> thanks =] | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:56:50] <BarnacleBob> it wont unset it | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:56:58] <BarnacleBob> but you can set the default and not use it for a certain value | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:57:55] <zahna> i could do that, but was curious whether requiring a Class[] should work | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:58:48] <jrojas> zahna: my understanding is that it wont work, it requires the class, but puppet still organizes its own dependency tree of the items in the class | ||
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| [2010/01/20 17:58:55] <zahna> oh wait, i'm not sure i can do that. i just looked at my class and it only contains defines | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:59:11] <jrojas> try it :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:59:18] <zahna> to include defines? | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:59:36] <jrojas> to require the defines, yes | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:59:42] <zahna> like require => Define["define-name"]? | ||
| [2010/01/20 17:59:48] <jrojas> no | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:00:03] <jrojas> hm | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:00:28] <zahna> or like in my case require => gem_source["http://gemcutter.org/"]? | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:00:35] <jrojas> no | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:00:38] <jrojas> for example | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:00:44] <jrojas> i have a custom luseradd define | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:00:57] <jrojas> it is define luseradd { blahlbha | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:01:11] <jrojas> inside it uses the variable $title | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:01:21] <jrojas> so i can do luseradd { "blah": | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:01:43] <jrojas> in another place i can do require => luseradd["blah"]; | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:02:21] <zahna> ok, i use $title too | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:02:35] <jrojas> is gem_source your define? | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:02:51] <zahna> yeah | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:03:02] <zahna> i didn't know puppet would treat the name of the define as a resource type | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:03:05] <jrojas> then yes in your case you got it. | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:03:29] <zahna> i thought defines were sort of standalone objects | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:03:47] <Djelibeybi> remember to capitalise: require => Luseradd["blah"], | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:03:48] <jrojas> you are defining a custom type for the most part. | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:03:53] <jrojas> Djelibeybi: thanks | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:04:27] <Djelibeybi> So, in zahna's case, it could/would probably be require => Gem_source["http://gemcutter.org"] | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:05:26] <zahna> this is very interesting | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:05:32] <zahna> i'm off to try it | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:06:26] <cipher_> hey all. | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:06:48] <himynameisthor> yo | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:07:57] <himynameisthor> does puppet have any array-handling language that I'm not finding in the documentation? i want to pass an array as an argument to a define and foreach element in the array, add a resource. (ssh_authorized_keys, in this case) | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:08:27] <cipher_> n00b question of the day: I've read the FAQ and it lists this issue, however a remedy is not listed. | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:08:30] <cipher_> 'Could not retrieve catalog: Exported resource Host[localbox] cannot override local resource on node anotherbox | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:08:49] <cipher_> I've checked for duplicate definement | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:09:31] <cipher_> ideas from the wise puppet masters? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:10:58] <eric0> jrojas: mail sent | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:11:23] <jrojas> awesome thanks | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:12:25] <monachus> @cipher - if you have a host that creates that resource, and another host that both creates that resource and collects it, you'll get that error | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:12:56] <zahna> hmm... so is there a way, in a define, to use $name and fallback to $title if $name doesn't exist? | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:13:12] <monachus> @zahna - they both exist, by default, with the same value | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:13:26] <monachus> you can set an alternative name => something to make it different from title | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:13:55] <zahna> oh, so i'd be safe always referencing $name inside my define then? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:14:02] <monachus> yeah | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:14:09] <zahna> oh, cool | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:14:12] <zahna> thanks! | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:14:18] <monachus> :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:14:18] <cipher_> monachus: and let's assume i've done that and there are two hosts which have gobbled that information up. best way to remedy? | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:16:42] <monachus> @cipher - the exported resources only care about the name, so you can use a different namevar, like prepend $hostname or $fqdn to it - not sure if your resource is an actual Host - if so, you'll have to use a different name that's unique everywhere | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:16:59] <monachus> say you're using "localbox" to refer to itself. you shouldn't need that anywhere else | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:17:14] <monachus> so you can have another Host entry for the actual machine, and then tag that one as "exported_hosts" or something | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:17:23] <monachus> and when you do your collection, only collect things tagged "exported_hosts" | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:17:34] <monachus> so all your "localbox" host entries stay local to their own boxes | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:18:38] <monachus> Host { "my.real.box.com": ip => x.x.x.x, tag => "exported_hosts" } | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:20:20] <monachus> and then Host<<| tag == 'exported_hosts' |>> when you collect | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:20:29] <monachus> (space between Host and <<) | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:21:35] <jbeez> realize through a spaceship :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:23:02] <monachus> i'm having another altogether freakish problem with exported resources - they've been working fine until now - when i try to collect them i get an error about duplicate resources, like Duplicate definition: File[foo] is already defined...except it's not | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:23:14] <monachus> and every time i run puppetd again, it picks a different thing to pretend is already defined | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:23:21] <monachus> i've checked the db and my config, and they're all unique | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:23:35] <jbeez> not defined in the top scope anywhere? | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:23:37] <monachus> nope | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:24:13] <jbeez> I'm new to puppet, I'm just getting trained on it, went over spaceships and tags today as a matter of fact | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:24:17] <monachus> they're all unique nagios objects. the only thing that's different between working and not working is another 5 or 6 hosts connected to the db and stored their configs | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:29:03] <jbeez> can you use a diff name besides foo? | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:29:08] <jbeez> or whatever your using | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:29:16] <jbeez> or is there a way to display what foo currently is | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:29:20] <jbeez> if it says its already defined | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:29:29] <monachus> Duplicate definition: File[nagios_command_check_unix_load] is already defined | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:29:42] <monachus> but there's only one of those. guaranteed. only one in the database resources table too. | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:31:18] <monachus> fek. it's a tomorrow problem. | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:31:21] <monachus> going to bed. ttyl. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:50:56] <monachus> ha! figured it out. i'm retarded. | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:50:58] <monachus> :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:51:09] <jrojas> ? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 18:53:27] <hMz> hrm, seems like filebucket host changes require a restart on some clients. Has anyone else seen this behavoir? | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:54:15] <jrojas> hMz: more detail? | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:54:41] <hMz> i'm switching servernames of my filebucket, i made the appropriate changes and sporadically i see requests to the old hostname, even though the right files are on the box in question | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:55:03] <hMz> the only way to "free" this up, is to restart puppetd, it then sees the right filebucket and stores the file there | ||
| [2010/01/20 18:55:43] <jrojas> if its ahost the puppet client is connecting to and you are changing a "dns" entry in the hosts file then yes, i would assume that you would need to restart puppet. how else is it supposed to know that the dns name changed after it established a connection? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 19:21:38] <Djelibeybi> Hmm.. there does not appear to be a rubygem-mysql package for Fedora 12. Curious. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 19:23:56] <hMz> jrojas: its http. you're not establishing a open connection between the server. You're talk to it as needed by opening connections as needed | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:24:10] <hMz> and its only for filebucket | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:24:13] <hMz> not the actual puppetmaster | ||
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| [2010/01/20 19:25:05] <jrojas> hMz: are you sure? | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:25:26] <jrojas> hMz: about the coonection? it may cache the info at the beginning of the run | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:25:33] <jrojas> or something crazy | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:25:37] <hMz> well, my load balancer is ignoring keep alive | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:25:43] <hMz> so at least my setup isnt ;P | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:25:49] <hMz> but yea | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:25:52] <hMz> i suspect its cached somewhere | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:25:54] <hMz> and restarting it fixes it | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:25:59] <hMz> but if it reparses puppet.conf, it should update said caches | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:02] <hMz> which i suspect is a bug | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:03] <jrojas> nscd? | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:08] <hMz> but didnt want to file duplicate tickets | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:16] <hMz> restarting puppet fixes the problem | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:18] <hMz> so it cant be in nscd | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:21] <jrojas> hMz: well are you modifying /etc/hosts, or puppet.conf? | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:29] <hMz> puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:31] <jrojas> hm | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:37] <hMz> well, technically site.pp | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:40] <hMz> sorry | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:42] <jrojas> hm | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:26:51] <hMz> so all that should be generated on each getconfig | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:27:05] <hMz> and the local state files show the right hostnames | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:27:17] <hMz> so its not like its cached on the client, at least in the files (might be in ram) | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:28:13] <jrojas> hMz: honestly, how often do you switch servernames of your filebucket? | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:28:29] <jrojas> it may be a bug, but it doesnt seem like that big of a problem | ||
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| [2010/01/20 19:33:45] <hMz> i dont | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:33:52] <hMz> i just want to make sure no one else wastes the 3 hours it took m | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:33:53] <hMz> e | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:33:55] <hMz> to get to this point | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:33:59] <jrojas> hehe | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:34:08] <hMz> if it can be avoided | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:34:34] <hMz> and i figure if i file a ticket, i'll probably get a apple-style response | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:34:45] <hMz> "please upgrade to supermegaultrasnowcheetah and try again" | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:34:51] <jrojas> maybe | ||
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| [2010/01/20 19:51:36] <foofie85> I'm having trouble with certs on my system. Both server and client are ArchLinux with puppet 0.25.3 and Ruby 1.8.7. It seems as if the client will contact the server, but won't request a certificate. Whenever I do a puppetca --list on the server, instead of getting the "no waiting certificates", it just gives me a blank line and a new prompt. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 19:55:43] <lak> foofie85: are you doing anything weird with vardir or confdir? | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:56:26] <foofie85> lak, I'm not sure what you mean... It's a pretty vanilla install of Arch (on both accounts). | ||
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| [2010/01/20 19:56:41] <eric0> also try 'puppetca --list -a' | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:56:53] <lak> foofie85: i've just seen people set vardir for, say, puppetmasterd but not puppetca | ||
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| [2010/01/20 19:57:12] <foofie85> eric0, Ahh, i can see the cert waiting now. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 19:57:28] <foofie85> eric0, I suppose that should be added to the documentation on the wiki...? | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:57:36] <Volcane> also using sudo and not proper su can also cause puppetca weirdness | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:57:47] <foofie85> Well, i'm logged in as root | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:58:20] <foofie85> These are two VM's i'm trying to get set up before I deploy it on any real hardware ;) | ||
| [2010/01/20 19:59:27] <foofie85> Thanks for the help, I suppose I just needed the -a in there as well. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 20:02:01] <jrojas> hm..weird | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:02:14] <Volcane> yeah, glossy bit suggests they have that, but i guess only one way to really see | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:02:14] <Djelibeybi> Hmmm. I can't get puppet_dashboard reports to work. | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:02:16] <Volcane> bah | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:02:26] <Djelibeybi> How do I specify multiple libdir values? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:02:36] <lak> Djelibeybi: colon-separated | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:02:37] <jrojas> libdir=blah:blah? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:02:45] <Djelibeybi> lak: yeah, that's what I thought. Doesn't work though | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:02:49] <lak> eh? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:02:55] <lak> *should* | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:03:20] <Djelibeybi> I shall pastie the error for you | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:03:36] <Djelibeybi> http://pastie.org/787526 | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:04:48] <Djelibeybi> Both directories exist, btw. But it looks (to me) like it's looking for one long directory | ||
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| [2010/01/20 20:06:35] <lak> Djelibeybi: weird, you're right - it doesn't work | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:06:36] <Djelibeybi> Though, even if I copy puppet_dashboard.rb into /var/lib/puppet/lib/puppet, it still complains that it can't find a report puppet_dashboard | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:06:38] <lak> i so thought it did | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:06:46] <lak> can you file that as a bug for me? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:06:47] * Djelibeybi needs a bit more --debug, I think | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:07:03] <Volcane> someone else also tried this the other day, we couldnt get it goig | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:07:09] <jrojas> i got it going fine | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:07:20] <ohlolohlol> Djelibeybi, it's actually lib/puppet/reports/puppet_dashboard.rb | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:07:33] <Djelibeybi> http://pastie.org/787526 full debug output | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:07:33] <Djelibeybi> lak: sure. | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:07:34] <ohlolohlol> try that | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:08:01] <Djelibeybi> ohlolohlol: ah, cool. One sec. | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:09:15] <Djelibeybi> ohlolohlol: win! | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:09:18] <ohlolohlol> :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:09:32] <Djelibeybi> Though, I do get a puppetd warning: warning: Value of 'preferred_serialization_format' (pson) is invalid for report, using default (marshal) | ||
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| [2010/01/20 20:10:04] <ohlolohlol> Djelibeybi, how many resources are you managing? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:10:09] <ohlolohlol> (btw, i think you can ignore that warning) | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:10:21] <Djelibeybi> ohlolohlol: 1! I'm setting up for a puppet tutorial with jamesturnbull tomorrow. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 20:10:26] <ohlolohlol> ahh i see | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:10:36] <ohlolohlol> anyone managing >500? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:10:45] <ohlolohlol> and using reports? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:10:48] <Djelibeybi> ohlolohlol: Oh, in production we have 700+ machines with reports | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:10:54] <Djelibeybi> But not dashboard reports | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:11:09] <ohlolohlol> Djelibeybi, ahh..how many resources there? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:11:20] <Djelibeybi> A few hundred, I reckon | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:11:32] * Djelibeybi is far away from the puppet install which is behind firewalls atm | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:11:34] <jrojas> I average about 200-350 per VM | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:11:34] <ohlolohlol> are you saving them to local file? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:11:56] <ohlolohlol> can either of you tell me how big your report is in bytes? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:12:24] <Volcane> -rw-r----- 1 puppet puppet 1447 Jan 21 01:08 201001210108.yaml | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:12:28] <Volcane> 500 resources | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:12:32] <ohlolohlol> Volcane, cool thanks | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:12:36] <Volcane> ie. reports dont have something in it for every resource | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:12:45] <Volcane> at present anyway | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:13:01] <ohlolohlol> i see a close ratio but have just started doing reporting | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:13:25] <ohlolohlol> not many resources here, in my last puppet install i didn't do it | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:13:46] <ohlolohlol> i have a few k hosts so trying to gauge the size of my db, thanks | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:13:47] <Djelibeybi> lak: #3094 | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:13:47] <gepetto> Djelibeybi: lak: #3094 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/3094 "Puppet - Bug #3094: Trying to specify multiple libdir values fails - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:13:56] <Volcane> bed time for me | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:14:55] <Djelibeybi> Hmm.. is there any doco on the Puppet Dashboard Node Classes/Groups? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:15:02] <ohlolohlol> Djelibeybi, what do you need? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 20:15:07] <Djelibeybi> it doesn't seem to pull classes from the report, for example | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:15:16] <Djelibeybi> Do I have to manually add all the classes being applied to the node? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:15:20] <ohlolohlol> yeah | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:15:27] <ohlolohlol> the reports are not connected | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:15:36] <Djelibeybi> ohlolohlol: is there no way to import from the puppet manifests? | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:15:42] <ohlolohlol> eventually you'd want to use it as external node lookup | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:16:04] <ohlolohlol> Djelibeybi, I wrote a rake task to add nodes, you could do the same for groups and classes | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:16:17] <ohlolohlol> hold on let me add that | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:21:56] <Djelibeybi> ohlolohlol: I'm heading off for an #lca2010 talk. I'll be back in an hour or so. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 20:46:08] <foofie85> Perhaps I spoke too quickly... apparently that isn't the cert waiting even with the -a :/ | ||
| [2010/01/20 20:50:10] <lilmatt> Given class foo { include bar; include baz; } class frob { include foo; include: blah; }, how can I "uninclude" bar from frob? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 21:03:04] <eric0> lilmatt: you can't, natively..there was just a thread on the ML about this earlier today | ||
| [2010/01/20 21:03:10] <eric0> this is a pretty clean option: | ||
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| [2010/01/20 21:03:24] <eric0> http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/810eb8671a5b3cdd | ||
| [2010/01/20 21:04:31] <lilmatt> eric0: thanks! | ||
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| [2010/01/20 21:28:05] <foofie85> I don't think my client is requesting the cert from the puppetmaster. Here's the output on the client side with verbose, trace, and debug: http://pastebin.com/m1ed281cf | ||
| [2010/01/20 21:28:20] <foofie85> Puppetmaster still has no waiting certificates | ||
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| [2010/01/20 22:45:39] <Djelibeybi> ohadlevy: just loaded the latest version of Foreman. The new graphs are kick-ass. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 22:52:45] <Djelibeybi> ohadlevy: ping? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 22:55:03] <Djelibeybi> Does anyone know where the apache2::passenger module that ohadlevy uses for Foreman comes from? | ||
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| [2010/01/20 22:56:45] <littleidea> Djelibeybi: it's on his github, or are you asking something else? | ||
| [2010/01/20 22:57:02] <Djelibeybi> littleidea: That's what I'm asking. It's been a long day. :) | ||
| [2010/01/20 22:57:08] <littleidea> http://github.com/ohadlevy/puppet-apache2 | ||
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| [2010/01/20 22:57:48] <Djelibeybi> Ta muchly | ||
| [2010/01/20 22:59:07] <Djelibeybi> Let's give this a whirl. | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:01:02] <Djelibeybi> *sigh* | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:01:30] <Djelibeybi> Ah, no rubygem-passenger in Fedora 12 | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:01:41] <Djelibeybi> I really should've tried this on EL5 with EPEL. I'll do that instead. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 23:25:49] <Djelibeybi> Narf. rubygem-passenger doesn't appear to be in EPEL either. I wonder where ohadlevy gets it from. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 23:39:39] <justdave> can I "push" a value onto an array in a puppet manifest? | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:39:51] <tmz> Djelibeybi: passenger is held up in the Fedora/EPEL review queue because it bundles boost. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470696 | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:40:05] <Djelibeybi> tmz: yes, I remembered that as I posted. I've had this problem before. | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:40:23] <Djelibeybi> But ohadlevy references a rubygem-passenger RPM, so I wonder where the .src.rpm is. Or .spec file at worst | ||
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| [2010/01/20 23:42:42] <tmz> Djelibeybi: The .spec or srpm in the review are perhaps a good start. I believe Jeroen has updated packages as well. | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:42:47] <tmz> Yeah, looks like http://www.kanarip.com/node/871 | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:43:02] <Djelibeybi> tmz: lovely, bookmark'd. | ||
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| [2010/01/20 23:43:45] <Djelibeybi> Have the issues with the newer versions of Passenger + Puppet been fixed? | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:43:56] <Djelibeybi> i.e. can I run puppermasterd 0.25.3 on Passenger 2.2.5? | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:44:26] <tmz> That I don't know. But I'd guess others here do. | ||
| [2010/01/20 23:44:53] <Djelibeybi> I'll check back in later. Time to head to hotel | ||
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| [2010/01/20 23:55:29] <odyi> Djelibeybi: do bad you left...Could have told you I am running 0.25.3 on 2.2.5 and actually had it on 2.2.9 too. | ||
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