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| [2009/12/20 00:41:05] <Cyis> jamesturnbull, it does appear to be insync? failing | ||
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| [2009/12/20 05:31:09] <omry_|work> got a weird issue with a template using ${opreratingsystem} : http://pastebin.com/m7148b11c | ||
| [2009/12/20 05:31:13] <omry_|work> any idea? | ||
| [2009/12/20 05:33:54] <omry_|work> ha, figured it out. it's actually Solaris, not solaris. in other places I used 'solaris' and it worked, but the file system IS case sensitive so it failed. | ||
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| [2009/12/20 09:35:24] <monachus> you know - i love that i can come to the puppet IRC channel with a question, and as i'm typing it, realize what the answer it. it's like some sort of freakin' black magic. | ||
| [2009/12/20 09:35:30] <monachus> * what the answer is | ||
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| [2009/12/20 09:48:45] <ohadlevy> monachus: the answer is 42 | ||
| [2009/12/20 09:50:28] <monachus> heh - totally. it was actually fear of looking dumb - i googled for the answer and saw that only one other person had ever posed the question, which led me to believe that i was probably doing something wrong. | ||
| [2009/12/20 09:51:06] <monachus> good troubleshooting skills. always assess PEBKAC value first. | ||
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| [2009/12/20 10:19:49] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: ping | ||
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| [2009/12/20 10:22:31] <ohadlevy> anyone here uses foreman and posttgresql ? | ||
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| [2009/12/20 10:38:24] <Cyis> I wish the issue I was tracking was PEBKAC... would be easier to fix | ||
| [2009/12/20 10:41:02] <ohadlevy> Cyis: still the provider? | ||
| [2009/12/20 10:43:06] <Cyis> yeah... I've forked reductivelabs/puppet on Github and added the provider & type... as well as rspec unit testing... unit tests pass so far... but it's still duplicating the lines in the file and changing to :absent isn't removing the file or the content | ||
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| [2009/12/20 10:43:55] <Cyis> http://github.com/jbouse/puppet/commits/master | ||
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| [2009/12/20 10:57:49] * Volcane discovers awesomely useful ruby syntax that should have been totally obvious | ||
| [2009/12/20 10:58:02] <Volcane> foo = bar rescue foo = false | ||
| [2009/12/20 10:58:05] <Volcane> if bar isnt set | ||
| [2009/12/20 10:58:12] <Volcane> foo would be false | ||
| [2009/12/20 10:58:28] <Volcane> wonder why i never came across that | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:00:42] <ohadlevy> foo = bar || false ? | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:01:05] * Volcane should spend more time with ruby coders :P | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:01:48] <ohadlevy> hmm sorry | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:01:50] <Volcane> nah doesnt work | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:01:51] <ohadlevy> that wont work | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:02:14] <ohadlevy> thats only if bar is nil | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:02:37] <ohadlevy> e.g. through a method parameter etc | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:02:40] <Volcane> am using it like this: http://pastie.org/750766 | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:02:51] <kjetilho> ohadlevy: it works for variables which are bound | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:03:11] <ohadlevy> kjetilho: yep | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:04:37] <ohadlevy> volcane: i think that if you change your method to be options = {} instead of *options it will wrok | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:04:37] <Volcane> thats the best syntax that i can come up with for that use case | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:04:46] * Volcane tries | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:06:22] <Volcane> does indeed | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:06:23] <Volcane> sweet | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:06:37] <kjetilho> Volcane: definitely nicer than using if has_variable?("foo") | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:06:50] <Volcane> yeah i used to do that, grim | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:07:11] * Volcane 's trying to build a generic rpc system ontop of mcollective thats easier to use | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:08:16] <Volcane> currently at: http://pastie.org/750771 | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:08:22] <Volcane> really cant make it simpler than that | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:08:30] <Volcane> fetches mailq from any amount of servers and shows it as one mailq | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:08:57] <Volcane> can do all sorts like exim.rmfrozen would delete all frozen mail everywhere etc | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:11:08] <Volcane> and that supports full discovery and all that stuff in those 4 lines | ||
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| [2009/12/20 11:22:40] <Cyis> Volcane, surely it's easier than trying to make a simple aptrepo type/provider :) | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:23:33] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:23:55] <Cyis> it works... but only when it doesn't work :) | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:23:59] <Volcane> its hard trying to come up with a way for non programming sysadmins to do distributed rpc programming :) | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:24:39] <Volcane> those 4 lines will ask the entire cluster for all machines running exim, fetch their mail queues and reduce it into one and show it | ||
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| [2009/12/20 11:36:56] <Cyis> okay here's what I don't get... I used ssh_authorized_key as a template for my aptrepo... | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:37:17] <Cyis> ssh_authorized_keys doesn't duplicate the key records when ran multiple times but my aptrepo does | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:37:23] <Cyis> oh wait a minute :) | ||
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| [2009/12/20 11:41:15] <Cyis> okay... so much for that pre-mature ah-ha moment... brought to you by the makers of epic fail :) | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:41:30] * Volcane 's never tried to write a type/providr :) | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:41:45] <Volcane> often thought i shold try to write a native snippet type, but then always have more interesting things to do :P | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:42:04] <Cyis> I thought it might have been since I virtualized my ssh_authorized_keys and then realized them... so tried that with aptrepo but that didn't work | ||
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| [2009/12/20 11:42:46] <Cyis> well I need something that can manage the APT sources.lists as easy as yum repos could be handled | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:43:18] <Volcane> seems you can trivially do it with a define and the .d dir for sources? | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:44:02] <Cyis> I'm trying to have it create the <name>.list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:44:07] <Volcane> a type would handle the case where there's an existing one already in the sources.list that matches what you're adding tot he .d dir though | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:44:17] <Cyis> but also be able to parse the contents | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:44:55] <Volcane> did you look at the mailalias type that uses the parsedfile provider that just edits /etc/aliases in place? | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:45:11] <Cyis> end result is I want to be able to make /etc/apt/sources.list an empty file and then use this aptrepo{ } to declare all the sources and have them placed in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:46:50] <Volcane> eitherway, would be very useful, source.list drives me mad | ||
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| [2009/12/20 11:47:08] <Volcane> have this rediculous environment where some machines need to talk to port 80 of the repos and other on 8080 etc | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:47:16] <Volcane> a type would make dealing with that junk so much better | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:48:46] <Cyis> yeah... I thought so too and in the void thought to myself 'surely it's not that hard so why not do it myself' | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:49:23] <Volcane> still think if you just file{} out /etc/apt/sources.list with an empty one then a define can trivially make the ones in .d | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:52:05] <sebas891> hi folks, any idea why "info: Loading fact mountpoints" take a long time to execute itself on a puppet client? (puppet client and master are on debian lenny) | ||
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| [2009/12/20 11:56:29] <Volcane> Cyis: http://pastie.org/750818 | ||
| [2009/12/20 11:56:54] <Volcane> Cyis: that even purses out unmanaged repos if you just delete the lines from your manifests | ||
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| [2009/12/20 12:02:49] <Cyis> yeah I'd seen some examples like that... | ||
| [2009/12/20 12:03:05] <Volcane> still, it would be good to have a type, and u learn lots :) | ||
| [2009/12/20 12:04:23] <Cyis> yeah... and if Yum can have it's own type... Apt deserves it's ;) | ||
| [2009/12/20 12:07:43] <Cyis> I think I have the spec/unit/type/aptrepo.rb testing everything ... gonna work on adding the spec for the parsed provider | ||
| [2009/12/20 12:13:15] <Cyis> cause I don't think it's the aptrepo type itself that's having the issue... I think it's something in the parsed provider for it | ||
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| [2009/12/20 16:02:03] <monachus> is there any _real_ documentation of the naginator/nagios functionality besides the nagios reference in the wiki? working examples of configs that use exported resources and some of the more advanced features? | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:02:37] <monachus> i'm working to port our nagios implementation into puppet and am having a bear of a time with it. | ||
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| [2009/12/20 16:08:16] <Cyis> monachus, you figure out out put some together cause I'll need it eventually myself | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:08:25] <monachus> heh | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:09:23] <Cyis> I've not started to work on nagios implementation yet... but it's on the growing todo list | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:10:00] <monachus> we currently use Groundwork's Monarch product, but they no longer plan to release it after the last version (which was a while ago). we have a whole dynamic structure of templates that are assembled into a functional nagios config that covers the clients we monitor/manage...i can get the template concept into puppet, but it does some weird weird stuff | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:10:33] <monachus> today i was playing with the "purge => true" component of resources {} and it would create my nagios config on one pass, delete it on the next pass, create it on the next pass...stuff like that makes me think it's not really prod-worthy | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:10:42] <monachus> but i hear whispers of people using it...it's like a Unicorn or something. | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:10:46] <Cyis> we just did a grueling 5-6 hour change window basically building out completely new servers to deploy upgrade code but went from 32-bit to 64-bit ... Having the puppet configs would have made it easier... but don't have it in place yet | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:11:00] <monachus> everyone knows someone who heard of a friend who saw it | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:11:16] <Cyis> I've used Groundwork Monarch... found several things lacking functionally ... | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:11:47] <monachus> omfg GW has more bugs than a hipster's apartment in NYC | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:11:53] <monachus> but it was the best thing out there. | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:12:00] <monachus> fruity and lilac are both lacking as well | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:12:12] <Cyis> yep... preaching to the choir | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:12:23] <Cyis> and no real API to speak of | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:12:39] <Cyis> besides being written in that dirty four letter word language | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:12:54] <monachus> i don't have staff who can work with puppet manifests, which was why a GUI was great. i want puppet to still abstract most of it, so that they just have to say global::nagios::target{ $nagios_name: } and it writes a host definition | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:13:22] <monachus> or global::nagios::service { "apache": client => $client } and it writes out a proper apache monitoring config | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:13:25] <monachus> we have all the templates... | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:13:45] <monachus> anyway. if anyone else on the channel has a functional config and can share some of their success, that would be great. | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:14:09] <monachus> we're still on 24.8 also...maybe it's better in 25.1 | ||
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| [2009/12/20 16:21:10] <duritong> jamesturnbull: I tried but got hit by another bug | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:21:26] <duritong> jamesturnbull: but it looks like dan figured it out | ||
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| [2009/12/20 16:37:11] <jlambert> i've been working with augeas today for the first time and have successfuly been able to put an "onlyif" on my limits.conf parameters so augeas doesn't add hte line every time | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:37:18] <jlambert> having trouble doing that with exports | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:37:36] <jlambert> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetAugeas has an example, but doesn't seem to keep from just adding the export every time | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:37:42] <jlambert> anyone have experience? | ||
| [2009/12/20 16:39:52] <Djelibeybi> jlambert: lutter wrote Augeas, so ask him. ;-) | ||
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| [2009/12/20 16:52:42] <sebas891> a quick question, is puppetmaster 0.25.1 able to manage puppet client 0.24.5 ? | ||
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| [2009/12/20 17:14:48] <monachus> oh snap - if I have things like $HOSTADDRESS$ in the nagios directives, is Puppet going to try and act on them as variables? | ||
| [2009/12/20 17:14:54] <monachus> :| | ||
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| [2009/12/20 17:15:15] <Volcane> \$HOSTADDRESS | ||
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| [2009/12/20 17:17:09] <monachus> tx | ||
| [2009/12/20 17:17:17] <Volcane> bit obvious :P | ||
| [2009/12/20 17:17:37] <Volcane> u can also do '$foo' | ||
| [2009/12/20 17:17:41] <Volcane> just like in shell scripts | ||
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| [2009/12/20 18:30:28] <monachus> @volcane - yeah. it is rather obvious. i found it in the docs a moment after i posted the question - hadn't encountered it before. | ||
| [2009/12/20 18:31:12] <monachus> i might give up on this naginator thing - at this point it might just be better to write out all my defs as individual files, one per object, and just tell Nagios to chew on it when it loads. | ||
| [2009/12/20 18:31:17] <monachus> bed now. hrmph. | ||
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| [2009/12/20 20:25:43] <eshamow> anyone have a moment to help a relative n00b on a custom provider issue? | ||
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| [2009/12/20 21:29:09] <jamesturnbull> espent: maybe? :) | ||
| [2009/12/20 21:29:23] <jamesturnbull> espent: sorry - wrong person | ||
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| [2009/12/20 22:55:36] <jamesturnbull> !seen francois | ||
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