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| [2009/12/14 00:21:19] <gepetto> ::trac:: Big Picture edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/BigPicture?version=8 | ||
| [2009/12/14 00:21:19] <gepetto> ::trac:: Big Picture edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/BigPicture?version=9 | ||
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| [2009/12/14 02:29:59] <ohadlevy> and new version of foreman is out :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 02:44:19] <nico> morning | ||
| [2009/12/14 02:51:20] <ohadlevy> nico: afternoon :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 02:54:29] <nico> :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 02:54:32] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet Source edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetSource?version=21 | ||
| [2009/12/14 02:54:32] <gepetto> ::trac:: Module Organisation edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation?version=45 | ||
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| [2009/12/14 03:24:02] <monzie> Hello all | ||
| [2009/12/14 03:25:21] <danielbln> greetings | ||
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| [2009/12/14 03:56:09] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet AIX edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Puppet%20AIX?version=24 | ||
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| [2009/12/14 03:59:11] <henk> (perhaps stupid) question: i'd like to have a class "ntp::server", which installs a ntp daemon, and a class "ntp::server::purged", which makes sure, the ntp daemon is _not_ installed. when i define those two classes in the ntp module i get an error though: Puppet::Parser::AST::Resource failed with error ArgumentError: Duplicate definition: Package[ntp] is already defined in file /etc/puppet/modules/ntp/manifests/init.pp at line 6; cannot redefine at ... | ||
| [2009/12/14 03:59:16] <henk> ... /etc/puppet/modules/ntp/manifests/init.pp:22 | ||
| [2009/12/14 03:59:17] <henk> how would i solve that? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:00:28] <groove> unless you actually include both, it shouldn't complain | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:00:51] <groove> but in situations where you must define the same resource multiple times, use virtual resources | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:02:00] <henk> groove: i'll have a look, thanks. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:10:21] <henk> groove: i probably do not have to do that... i have a "metaclass" including other classes and thus defining a "default setup" for my servers. i'd like to have exceptions though. nodes including a certain class should NOT have ntpd installed. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:10:25] <henk> any idea how to solve that beatifully? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:10:45] <groove> i did solve it once, it wasn't very beautiful though | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:11:43] <groove> main problem is branching based on some kind of flag saying "this server doesn't get X" | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:11:56] <groove> i implemented it with global variables and classes, and while it worked it was fairly nasty | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:11:58] <groove> the ideal way would be with definitions | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:12:39] <groove> you could say ntp::server { ntp: } or ntp::server { ntp: ensure => purged } | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:13:54] <henk> ah, it's primarily about xen domains and afaict there is a facter variable for that. i could just check for that and then install or purge ntp, right? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:15:36] <groove> true | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:15:37] <groove> based on whether virtual is xen0 or xenU I believe | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:34:04] <cedric> bonjour, je recherche quelques conseils sur l'utilisation de puppet avec cobbler. Des connaisseurs ? Merci | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:34:48] <henk> o_O | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:34:50] <henk> cedric: try english | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:36:16] <cedric> oh sorry | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:36:53] <cedric> so hi, i am looking for some advises using cobbler with puppet, someone can help me ? thanks | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:36:56] <ohadlevy> cedric: what do you need? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:38:32] <cedric> actually i want to use external node in puppet (cobbler's node) and i dont find my errror | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:40:39] <cedric> i come back in a few minutes to explain my problem | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:40:44] <FiXion> henk: I solved it by writing the ntp main class so it includes different subclasses - depending on what the host needs. | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:41:07] <FiXion> henk: in my case I do something different for vmware guests - so I check for productname = vmware - and install ntpdate cronjob instead of ntpd | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:41:50] <henk> FiXion: can you paste that somewhere? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:42:50] <FiXion> henk: http://pastebin.com/m260e1f8d | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:42:58] <FiXion> just put that in class ntp | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:43:14] <FiXion> and define ntp::client and ntp::ntpdate | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:43:16] <henk> FiXion: thanks! | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:47:00] <henk> FiXion: hm, you check for manufacturer. one of my machines has that info, the others don't. any idea what needs to be present for that variable to show up? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:47:40] <Volcane> some manufacturers do not put the info into the bios | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:47:57] <Volcane> but u need to have dmidecode on your machine | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:49:04] <henk> Volcane: ah ok, thanks. that seems to not work on xen guests. | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:49:26] <Volcane> yes, doesnt have access to that info | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:49:32] <Volcane> only physicals | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:50:00] <Volcane> well, and full virt machines probably too | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:50:07] <Volcane> like vmware | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:50:12] <henk> ok, good to know. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 04:51:17] <henk> hmpf, that damn vps seems to not give any information that it is virtualized... | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:52:18] <Volcane> is your facter up to date? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:52:51] <henk> Volcane: can you think of a way to install ntp on most machines, but have exceptions? atm i have a "metaclass" including other classes and thus defining a "minimal default server" which includes ntp. i don't want ntp installed on xen guests and other virtualized machines though. how do i exclude it on that machines? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:53:01] <henk> Volcane: it is debian stable on all machines. | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:53:49] <Volcane> henk: with an if statement on the fact is the only sane way | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:54:00] <Volcane> henk: unless u want to add vars to the nodes or something | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:56:53] <henk> Volcane: hm ok, then i'll start with that and just get rid of the VPS not having that fact... thanks | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:56:54] <Volcane> henk: is your facter up to date? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:56:54] <henk> Volcane: debian stable on all machines ;) 1.5.1 | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:56:54] <Volcane> thats pretty old | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:56:54] <Volcane> but if it works for similar others then probably fine | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:56:55] <Volcane> what kind of virtual machine is it? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:57:51] <henk> Volcane: it works for xen, but not for that VPS we have hosted somewhere else. actually, i have no idea what kind of machine that is. it's hosted by someone else and is only for our .de domain. i'll get rid of that soon and get something else... | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:58:21] <Volcane> k, probably something like openvz or whatever then | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:58:53] <Volcane> recall lots of fixes for that in more recent versions | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:59:05] <cedric> is there someone "skilled" (sorry im french) about puppet, cobbler and external nodes ? | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:59:58] <nico> get cobbler out of the equation | ||
| [2009/12/14 04:59:58] <henk> Volcane: i'll get rid of it anyway... it sucks, is pretty old and probably costs way too much... | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:00:11] <cedric> why get out cobbler nico? | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:00:32] <nico> because I don't do cobbler, but I speak french quite well :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:01:34] <nico> henk: installing testing facter on stable makes no problem, that's what I do to get rid of some annoying bugs | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:01:51] <cedric> but i already have puppet working and i want use it with cobbler now with ldap but cobbler dont do ldap, so i have to use cobbler's node | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:02:07] <henk> nico: ok, thanks, perhaps i'll give it a try. but a new stable is not far [TM] | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:02:25] <cedric> and the script to get information about the node seem to work fine: | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:02:37] <cedric> classes: ['ssh::workstation'] | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:02:37] <cedric> parameters: {from_cobbler: 1 | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:02:37] <nico> pastie please | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:02:37] <cedric> this is the output | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:02:48] <cedric> is that an output which can be understood by puppet? | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:02:50] <nico> this does not looks like valid YAML | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:02:54] <henk> hm, facter says "virtual => xenu" on both the xen host and the guest... | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:03:26] <nico> cedric: puppet understands YAML, so your input has to be *valid* YAML | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:03:52] <cedric> ok thanks, i gonna look around that so | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:04:12] <cedric> even if i dont know yaml | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:04:19] <nico> paste your full output in a pastue | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:04:33] <nico> yaml specs are really simple | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:04:37] <nico> pastie* | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:06:05] <cedric> http://pastie.org/742310 | ||
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| [2009/12/14 05:07:09] <nico> looks like some invalid yaml | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:07:43] <cedric> what shoud it look like? an example please? | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:08:22] <nico> http://pastie.org/742313 | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:09:04] <nico> cedric: this is valid output | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:09:06] <cedric> ok thank you | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:09:17] <nico> classes and then vars | ||
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| [2009/12/14 05:17:14] <henk> nico: have you tried bpo's version of facter/puppet/puppetmaster? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 05:19:14] <nico> henk: nope | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:19:59] <henk> nico: are you running the testing versions mixed with stable versions? | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:21:59] <nico> yes, apt-pinning on ruby / facter / puppet | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:24:15] <henk> nico: ah, no i mean mixed as in puppetmaster is from stable, one client from testing, another client from stable, one with facter from testing, puppet from stable, ... things like that. | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:28:07] <nico> nope | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:28:22] <nico> I try to have same version everywhere | ||
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| [2009/12/14 05:29:28] <henk> ok, thanks | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:40:06] <zamolxes> hey. what is the recommended way of installing latest puppet on debian lenny? thanks | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:40:41] <henk> zamolxes: create a debian package from the source and install it probably... | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:42:43] <zamolxes> hmm | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:43:05] <nico> using backports is pretty better to me | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:43:42] <zamolxes> yep, just noticed bpo has 0.25.1 | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:43:44] <zamolxes> sorry for the redundant question :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:44:45] <zamolxes> now, smarter question. The version of puppet we have installed on all servers is not compatible with the latest puppetmaster version. How would I upgrade puppet on all nodes, using puppet? :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:45:01] * FiXion recommends keeping a local repo of puppet packages - and inserting new versions of from f.ex. backports when YOU want them :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:45:29] <FiXion> zamolxes: package { "puppet": ensure => present, ensure => $version } | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:45:37] <FiXion> where version is the version you want. | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:45:53] <FiXion> as interpreted by dpkg | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:45:54] <zamolxes> FiXion: ok, but once it's upgraded, it won't work with the old puppetmaster, right? | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:46:04] <FiXion> master needs to ALWAYS be newer or same version | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:46:05] <nico> always upgrade master first | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:46:33] <SyTonnerre> But a 0.25 master won't support 0.24 slaves, right? | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:46:42] <zamolxes> SyTonnerre: that's my problem, yes | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:46:42] <nico> false | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:46:45] <zamolxes> nico: ah | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:47:06] <SyTonnerre> False? Brilliant | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:47:07] <nico> 0.25 master accepts 0.24 clients | ||
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| [2009/12/14 05:47:25] <SyTonnerre> nico, splendid, I didn't know that | ||
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| [2009/12/14 05:47:46] <Arvind> Hi , Does anyone have idea if it is possible to have dependencies between two modules that i want to execute through the puppet standalone say .. i have two modules say module1 and module2 where module2 depends on or calls module1. I tried using import but not sure if this helps. Any idea if this use-case valid or usable in puppet ? | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:47:47] <nico> discussed many times here | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:48:10] <SyTonnerre> nico, usually I'm not following, there's too much traffic here to read it all | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:49:22] <nico> SyTonnerre: np | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:49:49] <zamolxes> nico: thanks for making it clear, apparently I was FUDing myself | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:51:17] <FiXion> what's the best approach for shared functions? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 05:51:23] <FiXion> I would like to create a few std. file functions | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:51:27] <nico> FiXion: pluginsync | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:51:29] <FiXion> conffile, execfile etc. | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:51:45] <FiXion> actually I was thinking of making them defines | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:51:56] <FiXion> which would work just as well in this case | ||
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| [2009/12/14 05:56:38] <FiXion> and be easier :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:56:47] <FiXion> so common defines | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:56:52] <FiXion> instead of having to write a lot of ruby code for something this simple | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:56:55] <FiXion> if I put a common/manifests/init.pp and define them there | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:57:15] <FiXion> then I would just be sure that everyone got this module loaded | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:57:23] <FiXion> but IMHO it's a bit ugly | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:57:26] <FiXion> I'd prefer if each module loaded it. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 05:58:07] <FiXion> so putting an import common in each module's primary class (if it uses common functions) should work AFAIk | ||
| [2009/12/14 05:58:10] <FiXion> correct? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 06:43:25] <Arvind> Hi, is it possible to call a given module functionalities from another module ? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 06:52:21] <Volcane> Arvind: just include it like normal | ||
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| [2009/12/14 06:54:30] <Arvind> it does not help | ||
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| [2009/12/14 06:59:41] <Arvind> if i just include mod2 in the init.pp of mod2 it does not work , any other mechanism .. i guess scope of a module not resolved inside another module | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:02:18] <Volcane> pls show your code on pastie.org and the error you get | ||
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| [2009/12/14 07:05:39] <Arvind> include rels1 | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:05:40] <Arvind> class rels { | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:05:41] <Arvind> file { "/tmp/reltest": ensure => present } | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:05:41] <Arvind> exec { "/bin/echo got notified": | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:05:41] <Arvind> subscribe => File["/tmp/reltest"], | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:05:41] <Arvind> refreshonly => true | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:05:41] <Arvind> } | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:05:41] <Arvind> } | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:05:44] <Volcane> pls do it on pastie.org and put the link here | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:05:54] <Arvind> sorry .. mistake :( | ||
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| [2009/12/14 07:06:38] * ohadlevy vote +o for Volcane :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 07:06:53] * Volcane has +o :P | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:07:47] <ohadlevy> good job ;) | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:08:24] * Volcane tries another approach at splitting up this mysqldump file | ||
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| [2009/12/14 07:09:36] * ohadlevy wonder what people think about the query interface in foreman | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:11:27] <Arvind> http://pastie.org/private/5ym6e4ywuoko1ffdlpazvq | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:12:05] <Arvind> Volcane can you take a look ? | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:12:26] <Volcane> Arvind: and whats the error? you can just re-edit the pastie | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:12:59] <Volcane> Arvind: running it as 'puppet' changes things, also since you have the "include resl1" outside of the class things will also be weird | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:16:44] * Volcane has to go to lunch | ||
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| [2009/12/14 07:23:50] <Arvind> no error seen .. it just executes the rels module and skips the included one | ||
| [2009/12/14 07:26:19] <Arvind> what is the correct method of calling the module then ? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 08:07:51] <groove> i've asked this a few times in the last week but got no response | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:08:11] <groove> bug #2692 (which is kinda #1621) mentions an aliasing workaround for installing two packages of the same name with different providers | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:08:37] <gepetto> groove: #2692 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2692 "Puppet - Feature #2692: Allow duplicate resource names for a resource with different providers. - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:08:43] <gepetto> groove: #1621 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/1621 "Puppet - Feature #1621: Composite resource identifier - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:08:43] <groove> i can't figure out how to construct this workaround, any ideas? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:12:53] <Arvind> Volcane : any ans to my query | ||
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| [2009/12/14 08:26:34] <nexx> whats the acutal git-package for deb/ubuntu? if i install git, i dont have the "git"-command, only a bunch of git* stuff... is it git-core? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:26:53] <barn> git-core | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:27:00] <nexx> thanks :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:30:01] <barn> (I did the same thing...) | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:30:20] <joe-mac> yea that's semi annoying | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:30:38] <joe-mac> i think it happens to evertyone using deb/ubu the first time they install git | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:30:55] <joe-mac> and then every couple of moinths when you're working on a new workstation you forget, and do it all over again | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:31:20] <barn> and then just cry "Thanks debian..." | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:31:27] <nexx> i wanna update foreman per git (git pull) but i get this: fatal: Not a git repository | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:31:52] <joe-mac> did ohadlevy move the git repo ? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:32:00] <nexx> i dont think so | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:32:03] <joe-mac> or are you in the wrong dir? ls -la .git i guess | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:32:09] <joe-mac> or maybe git info something like that | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:32:11] <nexx> do i have to install it with git to update it with git? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:32:29] <joe-mac> i would guess so | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:32:36] <joe-mac> to move a git repo you do a git operation | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:32:54] <nexx> mh, then i guess i have to update it manually :/ | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:37:07] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: what is your remote ( git remote show) | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:37:17] <joe-mac> i don't have the problem, nexx does | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:37:45] <nexx> git remote show | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:37:48] <ohadlevy> ah, thats what you get for reading irc in your phone | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:37:48] <nexx> fatal: Not a git repository | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:38:08] <ohadlevy> Nexx.. It means your localdir is not a git repo... | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:38:13] <nexx> like i said, i didnt install foreman with git | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:38:14] <nexx> yes ;) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 08:42:05] <nexx> uah, rake db:migrate does funny things | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:43:45] <ohadlevy> such as? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:44:41] <nexx> i just moved the production.sqlite3 file to the new foreman/db/ dir and did rake db:update | ||
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| [2009/12/14 08:44:49] <Clint> ohadlevy: is anyone working on packaging foreman for debian? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:45:16] <ohadlevy> clint:no any takers? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:45:42] <ohadlevy> The main problem is that rails and other plugins are bundled | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:45:49] <Clint> ahh | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:46:09] <ohadlevy> So it will never be accepted upstream ( i think ) | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:46:38] <ohadlevy> Nexx, can u pastie? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:46:43] <Clint> does it need to be that way? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:47:22] <ohadlevy> Differnt os have different rails ( if at all ), rails is picky about it deps | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:47:27] <nexx> 2999: undefined method `[]' for #<Puppet::Util::Metric:0x7f3c8d4c04e8> - ignoring this report <---- LOTS of these messages | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:47:47] <ohadlevy> So its a much easier for u guys to download it directly | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:48:20] <ohadlevy> Nexx.. I am guessing its safe to ignore, | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:48:38] <nexx> then im gonna let it run without exiting it | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:48:51] <ohadlevy> I would love to find a way to package it | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:49:03] <nexx> 7 seconds 3535 entries | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:49:44] <ohadlevy> nexx i would be happy for some feedback | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:50:01] <ohadlevy> Also about the query interface | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:52:56] <nexx> query interface? | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:52:57] <ohadlevy> Its a way foreman can provide info to other systems, there are two main usages: | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:52:58] <ohadlevy> get a list of hosts based on facts classes | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:52:58] <ohadlevy> E.g. Run yum on all redhat machines | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:52:59] <ohadlevy> Look in the extras/query folder | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:53:18] <ohadlevy> There is a script there that use it with ssh | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:53:31] <ohadlevy> The other use case is for puppet | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:53:45] <ohadlevy> E.g. One node can query info about other nodes | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:54:18] <ohadlevy> This way you can open fw ports for other hosts, or setup proxy balancers etc | ||
| [2009/12/14 08:55:13] <nexx> i think this is a bit too high for me ;) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 09:00:42] <kjetilho> hey guys, I'm getting "warning: Configuration could not be translated from yaml" on a couple of my nodes. I don't see anything interesting in debug output on the node. anyone know what it means? | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:01:05] <nexx> can i see the foreman version on another way as per the version-file in foreman/? somewhere in the frontend maybe? | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:02:03] <ohadlevy> no, do u need it ? | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:02:07] <nexx> nah, just to be sure to run the new version | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:02:27] <ohadlevy> do u have statistics link on the top? | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:02:35] <nexx> no | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:02:54] <ohadlevy> Than its the old one | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:03:33] <nexx> hum, but im starting the script oput the new 0.1.3 folder | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:03:38] <nexx> oh | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:03:42] <nexx> or not :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:04:35] <nexx> there it is, very nice indeed | ||
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| [2009/12/14 09:11:35] <kjetilho> how do you escape ` correctly in an erb template? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 09:13:52] <kjetilho> hrm. actually ERB doesn't care. it's just the YAML encoding which breaks when transfering the result | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:17:24] <joe-mac> i wish nagios had like a bundled curses interface | ||
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| [2009/12/14 09:26:46] <kjetilho> verwilst: did you find a solution to the backtick-in-erb problem? | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:26:46] <nexx> is it possible to protect the foreman-frontend with an account/password? just the port isnt enough ;) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 09:36:23] <verwilst> kjetilho, euh | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:36:24] <verwilst> refresh my memory? :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 09:36:59] <kjetilho> [2009-09-30 16:18:35] <verwilst> warning: Configuration could not be translated from yaml | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:37:08] <kjetilho> [2009-09-30 16:45:50] <verwilst> Volcane: in one of my erb's, there was text that contained a backtick | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:37:16] <kjetilho> [2009-09-30 16:45:57] <verwilst> removing that backtick made it work again.. | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:37:27] <verwilst> hm, you have a big history :P | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:37:36] <ohadlevy> nexx: yes with ldap/ad and ssl | ||
| [2009/12/14 09:38:06] <verwilst> kjetilho, not sure anymore, i guess i just removed the backtick? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 09:40:44] <kjetilho> verwilst: it's very strange. I can't put my finger on what's causing the problem. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 09:45:14] <nexx> ohadlevy: per ldap would be the perfect thing | ||
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| [2009/12/14 09:45:56] <ohadlevy> nexx check the howtos | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:00:51] <nexx> okay, the ldap thing works, just need to enter the right server-data :p | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:12:06] <kjetilho> this is *so* weird. YAML fails if I start the template with line 1: «<%= "" %>» line 2: " anything" | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:12:40] <kjetilho> ah, just making line 1 empty fails, too. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:14:03] <kjetilho> yep, that fixed it. just adding a space to the output of the first line in my template... | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:14:27] <kjetilho> verwilst: I think the backticks were a red herring? your revert changed more? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:14:47] <kjetilho> (thanks for making me look into template ideosyncracies, though!) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:23:43] <danielbln> so subclasses auto-inherit from their parent? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:23:45] <danielbln> so=de | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:23:48] <danielbln> *do | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:23:53] <danielbln> damnit | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:25:30] <kjetilho> danielbln: depends on how you define subclasses | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:26:06] <kjetilho> the name foo::bar does not imply that it inherits foo | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:26:08] <kjetilho> it needs to be stated explicitly | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:27:01] <danielbln> thanks, I assumed, but I never cared to actually try | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:27:12] <danielbln> what would be another way to define a subclass, apart from foo::bar? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:28:15] <Volcane> class foo { class bar { } } | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:28:20] <Volcane> still doesnt imply inheritance | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:28:53] <kjetilho> danielbln: by the "inherits" keyword | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:29:26] <kjetilho> sort of circular, though. it's a subclass if it is declared as such :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:31:06] <fsweetser> speaking of inheritance questions.... | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:31:19] <fsweetser> what if I have to classes, A and B, where B inherits from A and overrides something in A | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:31:30] <fsweetser> what would happen if a node included both A and B? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:32:27] <neek_> anyone using puppet to check that nfslock is running on rhel? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:32:28] <ashp> ARGH why is this stupid goddamn error back | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:32:30] <ashp> i hate puppet 0.25 | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:32:34] <ashp> err: Got an uncaught exception of type ArgumentError: ip is a required attribute for hosts | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:32:42] <ashp> *explodes* | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:33:15] <kjetilho> fsweetser: I do that all the time. B has precedence | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:33:17] <fsweetser> kjetilho: perfect - thanks! | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:33:19] <danielbln> ashp gets the hose again. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:33:29] <ashp> danielbln: i am losing my MIND | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:33:34] <ashp> i cannot figure out what the hell | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:33:40] <danielbln> btdt ;) | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:33:57] <danielbln> on a similar note, multiple levels of class inheritance: supported? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:34:35] <danielbln> so A inherits B, B inherits C, C features resources from A and B? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:34:46] <kjetilho> yes | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:35:06] <danielbln> beautiful | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:35:59] <ashp> http://pastebin.com/d578651db | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:36:07] <ashp> can ANYONE see a problem with this | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:36:10] <ashp> just for completeness sake: | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:36:14] <ashp> root@hlslinutil1(manifests)$ facter -p | grep puppetip | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:36:16] <ashp> puppetip => 10.241.209.118 | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:36:17] <ashp> That $puppetip definitely exists. | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:36:32] <kjetilho> which line fails? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:37:14] <ashp> I have no idea because it won't tell me | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:37:17] <ashp> http://pastebin.com/dc8c1c98 | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:37:25] <ashp> complete run, with -tvd doesn't give me anything more useful | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:37:58] <ashp> nothing in puppetmaster's logs and nothing in puppetd -tvd on the client | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:38:16] <kjetilho> use binary search to find the culprit, then | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:38:42] <KarlHungus> hrm. i keep hitting /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/timeout.rb:54:in `rbuf_fill': execution expired (Timeout::Error) | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:38:49] <ashp> kjetilho: what do you mean? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:39:06] <kjetilho> remove lines until you find the offending one | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:39:28] <ashp> i guess i'll have to, so frustrating | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:41:32] <KarlHungus> its mod_passenger w/ apache 2.2 and rby 1.8. seem like i hit the timeout at 2 minutes everytime | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:42:28] <ashp> i removed the two entries with variables and it's still broken: err: Got an uncaught exception of type ArgumentError: ip is a required attribute for hosts | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:42:28] <ashp> this sucks. :( | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:46:05] <ashp> i removed all host{} entries from all manifests | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:46:06] <ashp> and i still get the error | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:46:06] <ashp> ... what the fuck. :( | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:51:06] <diranged> ok im stuck right now... i have two 0.24.8 clients working fine against a 0.25.1 server. the rest of my 0.25.1 clients are broken. | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:51:08] <diranged> puppetd[9825]: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target '' | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:51:24] <diranged> now i found this link (http://ramblings.narrabilis.com/wp/puppet-upgrade-problem-0-25-could-not-convert-from-pson/).. and i feel like ive fixed everything.. but clearly i havnt. | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:51:25] <fzzzt> Is it possible to pass an array into a definition? e.g. blah { ... options => ["x=y", "a=b"], } | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:51:52] <kjetilho> fzzzt: sure | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:54:05] <fzzzt> great, thanks | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:54:06] <verwilst> kjetilho, sorry was in a meeting :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:54:08] <fzzzt> hmm can I use var => value within the array? this is to drive a template.. | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:54:14] <kjetilho> please rephrase | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:54:29] <ashp> OK, I give up, I guess I'm going to raise a ticket with rlabs because I'm done with this insanity :( | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:55:20] <joe-mac> ashp, any possibility your clients are using the cached catalogues? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:55:25] <joe-mac> i disable using cached catalogs | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:55:29] <joe-mac> fairly evil functionality | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:55:48] <diranged> joe-mac: asking me? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:56:02] <ashp> joe-mac: I deleted the .yaml files | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:56:05] <ashp> joe-mac: that should be enough right? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:56:17] <ashp> is there a way to tell it via the command line NOT to use any cached catalogs? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:56:40] <fzzzt> kjetilho: Sorry. I am hoping to pass in an array if variable/value pairs, so in a template I can spit them out. E.g.: pass in [ foo => bar, ice => cream ] and in the template access $foo and $ice, or something like that. | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:57:05] <fzzzt> s/if/of/ | ||
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| [2009/12/14 10:57:30] <joe-mac> yea ashp --usecacheonfailure=disable | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:57:33] <kjetilho> fzzzt: no. you can't even pass in an array of arrays. please vote for the bug :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:57:44] <ashp> /usr/sbin/puppetd: option `--usecacheonfailure' doesn't allow an argument | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:57:46] <fzzzt> :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:57:48] <ashp> Is that a puppetmasterd option? | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:57:54] <fzzzt> hmmm | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:57:56] <kjetilho> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/1048 | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:58:06] <joe-mac> add no to the beginning | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:58:24] <Volcane> running --test disables the cache | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:58:25] <joe-mac> yea that's righ | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:58:29] <ashp> damn, so it's definitely not a cached catalog | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:58:36] <joe-mac> sorry dude | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:58:43] <ashp> i am at a loss, I grepped everything, not a single host{} remained. | ||
| [2009/12/14 10:58:54] <ashp> time to remove puppet, remove /var/lib/puppet, reinstall from scratch and test | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:00:20] * masterzen is wondering why when he's talking about puppet someone says Chef is >>>> to Puppet... | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:00:34] <KarlHungus> does passenger default to a 2m timeout? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:00:38] <ashp> OK, that didn't fix it so it's definitely failing with what it gets from the server. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:01:15] <duritong> masterzen: maybe because their codebase is now bigger? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:01:17] <duritong> :P | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:01:18] <fzzzt> oy | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:01:21] <fzzzt> too much fragmentation | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:01:48] <masterzen> duritong: as anyone here knows, bigger doesn't mean better :-) | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:02:05] <duritong> masterzen: hehe | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:02:31] <masterzen> anyway, it's annoying. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:02:50] <fzzzt> It looks like a matter of taste | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:02:52] <fzzzt> and/or needs | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:02:55] <ashp> I grepped ":ip:" in the catalog and they all have entries, hmm. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:03:44] <fzzzt> e.g. no dependency management, no central place for configs | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:03:59] <diranged> is there some way to enable more-than-debuig logging? im really stuck with this pson error. its not giving me any useful info | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:04:17] <masterzen> fzzzt: certainly. What I really mean, is why do people want to convince me at all price that chef is better, when I already use/know puppet better? That's not like if I had only 1 manifest, but I have more than 100 modules by now :-) | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:04:27] <ashp> Does anyone know if anything changed in the database that would break puppetstoredconfigclean.rb and make it no longer work (assuming anyone else uses it to clear hosts) | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:04:40] <fzzzt> you should ask them | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:05:10] <diranged> http://www.pastie.org/742691 < any ideas on how to track this down? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:05:20] <fzzzt> then improve Puppet based on what they say :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:06:01] <Volcane> diranged: pretty sure its saying somewhere you have a require/before/subscribe/notify where maybe you're using a variable and the var is empty | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:06:37] <diranged> geeze... the answer cant be "look at every line of code in your puppet repo till you find it"... there has to be some kind of debug for it? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:07:11] <Volcane> no dobut a dev could debug it but i dont think there's clearer debug options avail to you :( | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:08:16] <Volcane> so I'd say try mailing the users or dev list | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:08:38] <diranged> ugh i found the module its broken in.. (just commented everything out and started uncommenting modules..) | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:08:47] <f3ew> heh | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:09:36] <soot> got a bit of code that's not doing what i thought it would do.. http://pastie.org/private/hunxchqjzmb27a1sktzxg -- I'm running this and printing out the contents of $replication_master to a file.. and in the file it's showing up as either 0 or 1.. so not sure why it keeps on hitting the default case statement.. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:10:04] <ashp> I gave up and raised a ticket over to lak and the gang, because I cannot fix this and I'm dead in the water on my nodes now. :( | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:12:24] <Volcane> "Copenhagen talks stalled by green puppeteers" | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:12:25] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:13:18] <fzzzt> Is there a way to say "include this if file X exists"? I have a bunch of Tomcat apps, and a Tomcat module. Currently I have it install Tomcat and copy the app files over based on files/${title}/... using sourceselect => all. Now, I have an app that needs a template, and I'm trying to come up with a nice way of supporting that...I can't do the sourceselect with templates, and I don't really want a separate module mucking about in the Tomcat f | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:13:51] <fsweetser> fzzzt: create a custom fact that tests for the file, and key off of that fact in your manifests | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:14:12] <fzzzt> no no, on the server | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:14:27] <fsweetser> ah, so you want the test run on the server? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:14:33] <fzzzt> e.g. if my tomcat app foo has a file foo.pp, include that, and that file will have various template resources in it | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:15:29] <fzzzt> instead of all being in tomcat's init.pp | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:15:31] <fzzzt> then i can hopefully include ${title}.pp | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:15:33] <fsweetser> if you're on 0.25, the generate function may do what you want | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:17:15] <fzzzt> Hmmm. The doc says if the generator doesn't return 0, it generates a parse error...so any app that doesn't have a file would cause it to barf. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:18:06] <fsweetser> you'd have to craft the command to output a string telling you what you want, while always returning 0 in $? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:18:11] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:18:18] <Volcane> oops | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:18:22] <fzzzt> ah, good idea | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:18:38] <ashp> aha, volcane | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:18:43] <ashp> you were on the right track the other day | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:19:21] <ashp> when you said the database had garbage in | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:19:33] <ashp> it was another node completely that was broken | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:19:36] * Volcane usually is :P | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:19:39] <fzzzt> then i could something like if generate("find_app") == 'yes' | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:19:41] <ashp> it wasn't mentioned and no errors were associated with it | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:19:44] <ashp> i just deleted nodes out of the database one by one | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:19:46] <nexx> is WEBrick capable of something like a .htaccess? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:19:47] <Volcane> nexx: the fileserver.conf controls access | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:19:52] <nexx> should have said that i mean foreman, not puppet itself ;) | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:20:06] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:20:15] <fsweetser> nexx: as in, usint htaccess to restrict access to foreman? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:20:48] <Volcane> nexx: its a rails app, so you need to go read up about that, or i think foreman supports ldap | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:20:51] <nexx> fsweetser: i want to use htaccess, exactly | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:21:01] <fsweetser> not natively | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:21:10] <fsweetser> however, if you're using passenger and ssl, it's possible to emulate it | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:21:23] <diranged> think im closing in on my error | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:21:27] <nexx> i know about ldap, but i dont really want to use it | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:21:28] <nexx> fsweetser: no passenger, no ssl ;) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:21:42] <fsweetser> the latest version can be set up to require ssl for certain URLs, so all you have to do is set up your ssl vhost to require authentication, but not your plaintext one | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:24:34] <Volcane> nexx: run it behind apache and use location matches | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:24:36] <Volcane> no native support for it afaik | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:24:38] <diranged> when you send say "line => file("/tmp/test")" as a variable to a definition, what does it really send? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:24:58] <diranged> is it sending the content of that file as a string? or is it sending some file handler? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:25:00] <nexx> i can run foreman with apache? doesnt it _just_ run with webrick? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:25:23] <|Mike|> diranged: typereference -> line | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:25:23] <fsweetser> nexx: nope - you can run it under apache using passenger | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:25:23] <nexx> okey, so just like puppet can do | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:25:23] <diranged> |mike| im not sure what that means.. :/ | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:25:23] <|Mike|> err, it's _not_ in the typereference imho. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:25:24] <fsweetser> exactly | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:25:24] <fsweetser> nexx: passenger will work (in theory, at least) with any rails/rack application, as I understand it | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:28:38] <fzzzt> too bad there's no template:///modules/blah/file | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:28:52] <fzzzt> then i would use that and fall through to a file | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:29:04] <fzzzt> s/would/could/ | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:33:37] <diranged> |mike| can you look at this? http://www.pastie.org/742743 | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:34:01] <diranged> failure is this error: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target '' | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:35:07] <|Mike|> did you define those variables somewhere? (as far as i can see you copy pasted that piece of code..) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:37:13] <diranged> yep.. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:37:14] <diranged> if i just switch it from a file() reference to pure text, its fine | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:38:03] <|Mike|> you're trying to check for file within a file, that aint going to work imho | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:38:11] <diranged> i tried creating a new linefromfile definition where you pass it a string with a filename, and then i do the file() inside of that linefromfile def... and that fails too. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:39:36] <Volcane> diranged: how many of these files will you have with how many keys? 10s or 100s? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:40:03] <diranged> right now its ~20... | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:40:08] <diranged> could grow quite a bit... not sure | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:40:12] <Volcane> see if this might work better: http://nephilim.ml.org/~rip/puppet/concatfile/ | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:40:42] <Volcane> that comes with the added bonus that ppl cant add stuff to your files that ud ont know about | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:41:02] <|Mike|> I was googling for that link for mr diranged | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:41:14] <|Mike|> Volcane++ | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:41:40] <Volcane> but its not awesomely fast, though I suspect it'll be on par with your solution speed wise | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:42:10] <ashp> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Exported resource Host[hlsdevidm4.law.harvard.edu] cannot override local resource on node hlsdevidm4.law.harvard.edu | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:42:14] <ashp> ok, that's a new one. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:42:23] <ashp> I deleted the database node AND reinstalled puppet on the node. Hmm. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:43:12] <ashp> I wonder why it thinks another node exported that. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:45:32] <diranged> hmm the thing i like about mysolution is that a user cna keep adding/removing from their authorized_keys file as they wish... we're just guaranteeing that a particular key is in there. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:45:51] <Volcane> ah | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:45:53] <diranged> i do like this concat thing htough... ill be using it elsewhere. any idea how to fix my current issue though? whats frustrating is i have two 0.24.8 hosts that this code works perfectly on | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:46:14] <Volcane> well its not hard to add a knob to that concat_file{} define to make that configurable | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:46:14] <diranged> (actually passing line => file("filelocation") | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:46:47] <Volcane> diranged: have you tried saving the output of file() into a var and then passing the var in - or even printing it to the log to see if you're really doing what you're expecting? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:48:32] <diranged> well shit... that mgiht ahve done it | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:48:55] <diranged> no.. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:49:17] <Volcane> notice() the var and check on the master log see what it puts in there | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:49:40] <Bogdar> Hello! Are there kind of roadmap for puppet releases ? Are there some estimations for 0.25.2 ? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:50:10] <Volcane> ls | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:50:13] <Volcane> ffs | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:50:49] <diranged> as in... notice($line)? and it should output to a log somewhere? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:52:36] <duritong> Bogdar: it should be out since the end of november | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:54:16] <joe-mac> duritong: .25.2? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:54:50] <Bogdar> duritong, are there any chance to get it before Christmas. I'd like to plane upgrade of my puppet system. I upgrade server last week, but there are t ons of problem with client, so I still use 0.24.5 | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:57:45] <Volcane> "tons of problems"? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:57:47] <Volcane> all tickets opened and people are fixing? | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:57:47] <Volcane> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/issues?query_id=32 <-- open tickets for 0.25.2 | ||
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| [2009/12/14 11:57:49] <Bogdar> Volcane, looks like all my problems were reported, so I just wait for update. I foun explanation for all of them here on in google. | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:59:38] <duritong> Bogdar: 0.24.8 would be much more stable | ||
| [2009/12/14 11:59:49] <Volcane> kewl, well there are loads of tickets, cant imagine it'll be out before xmas | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:00:17] <duritong> anyway, I think the same as Volcane | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:02:01] <qwebirc93274> How does Puppet handle the naming of similar packages with different package names across different distributions/package managers? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:02:37] <diranged> so this is so damned strange.. notice() is showing the variables perfectly... | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:02:38] <qwebirc93274> For instance, a package for apache might be apache2 on one distribution, while it might be httpd on another | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:02:54] <Volcane> it doesnt solve the problem internally on its own, you need to make variables of some form | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:02:59] <Volcane> using extlookup makes that fairly easy | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:03:28] <Volcane> harder to sort out things like file paths and completely different methods of configuration like debian apache and normal apache | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:03:51] @ Quit: danielbln: "Leaving." | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:04:12] <qwebirc93274> Thank you | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:04:41] <Volcane> you can though create different modules for different operating systems and with some abstraction make it works nice | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:05:33] <qwebirc93274> I just wasn't sure if Puppet was supposed to do this or not... this helps me. I was assuming something like different modules for different OS would be necessary | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:06:07] <Volcane> there was a message on the list recently - last week - of someone who did something with different types of webserver but with sharing same interface into them | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:06:09] <Volcane> u can apply the same idea to OS | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:06:20] <qwebirc93274> I will need to do more reading in order to make it all abstract | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:08:05] <qwebirc93274> I'm just getting started with Puppet and you have helped me out. Thanks again | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:11:12] <Volcane> no probs | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:13:21] <diranged> volcane: still struggling... http://www.pastie.org/742799 | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:13:38] <diranged> doesnt make any sense... $line is clearly getting set properly (i removed the actual ssh key content obviously. but it was dead on.) its got a proper $name variable... and on the server side, the parsing is all working fine | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:13:47] <diranged> its only failling on the client side.. and only on .25.1 clients, NOT .24.8 clients | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:14:38] <Volcane> yeah pretty weird that | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:20:01] <diranged> wtf... even something like this fails: line => "key: $line", | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:20:38] <diranged> so there must be some issue with sending a string that includes a variable?? wtf | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:21:51] <Volcane> but line => "foo" works? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:21:54] <diranged> yep | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:22:03] <diranged> it works perfectly | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:22:25] <Volcane> sounds like a var type issue but cant imagine how | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:23:48] <diranged> ok wtf im gonna try yer concat thing.. but im a bit unsure of how to use it | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:24:14] <fsweetser> maybe try "key: ${line}" just to make sure the var is getting interpreted correctly? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:24:59] <diranged> no change | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:25:43] <eventi> having a few problems running puppet on opensolaris | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:26:29] <Volcane> eventi: I'd say you deserve it :P | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:26:32] <eventi> first - there was no /etc/puppet/puppet.conf, but it still worked... How can I find out what values it was using | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:26:37] <eventi> Volcane: I deserve problems? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:26:48] <Phibs> hehehehe | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:26:49] <Phibs> solaris ftl | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:26:51] <Phibs> ;) | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:26:53] <Volcane> eventi: puppetd --genconfig will print the defaults - but dont just save that output to a file it wont work | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:26:54] <eventi> wish I had a choice | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:27:03] <Phibs> hehe | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:27:14] <eventi> damned if I'm gonna re-learn solaris, though - that's what puppet | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:27:16] <eventi> 's for | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:28:14] <bda> pfiles. pargs. [d]truss. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:28:30] <eventi> ok - so I copied a puppet.conf from another machine, and got "Exiting; no certificate found and waitforcert is disabled" after it generated the keys | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:28:46] <Volcane> so u need to sign them on the master | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:28:53] <bda> Yeah, Solaris really sucks. SMF, Zones, DTrace, ZFS, RBAC, ... what a bunch of garbage technologies no one would want to use. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:28:57] * bda rolls his eyes. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:29:00] <eventi> but it's not pending over there | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:29:23] <Volcane> sure you're running puppetca as root on the master and not with sudo or something? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:31:43] <eventi> yeah - this is the same puppetmaster I use for everything | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:31:44] <eventi> just trying to add a client | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:31:45] <Volcane> bda: microsoft also have good technologies when considered in isolation, its the wrapping that sux. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:32:10] <diranged> volcane: ok i give... if you can help me get concat working, ill give it a shot. i guess i just need a new auth::key that takes a destination username, and the source filename(s)? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:32:12] <Volcane> diranged: there's a sample in the dir, u need to first setup the file with concat_file and then you register bits of text into it with concat_snippet | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:32:14] <diranged> does the .sh script need to be on the clients? or just the master? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:32:19] <bda> Volcane: Which wrapping? Jumpstart? LiveUpgrade? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:32:21] <eventi> Volcane: besides, it's supposed to autosign | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:32:32] <Volcane> bda: the rest of the OS | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:32:37] <bda> Volcane: If you are grousing about the lack of GNU utils or something, I will be sad. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:33:03] <bda> ah, whatever. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:33:26] <bda> We can agree that Puppet is ++, that's enough for this channel. ;) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:33:54] <eventi> agreed | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:33:59] <eventi> if I can get it running | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:34:42] * bda uses Puppet on a couple hundred Solaris hosts. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:01] <eventi> bda: How are you installing it? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:08] <bda> If you're using a pre-packaged Puppet, are you sure that PREFIX is set to where you expect it to? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:10] <bda> Via pkgsrc. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:12] <Volcane> if it works for you and is the best tool for the job, then clearly its the best choice | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:15] <diranged> volcane: but what if i dont have a set # of keys i might be putting into a auth_key file? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:35] <eventi> and how do you install pkgsrc | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:36] <bda> The way you install pkgsrc on any platform? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:37] <Volcane> diranged: each key gets 1 x concat_snippet | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:40] <bda> You bootstrap it. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:46] <diranged> volcane: im unsure how to say ... concat_file (/path/to/auth_key) ... then in essentially a loop, concat_snippet for each element passed to it | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:51] <Volcane> diranged: and each authorized_keys file gets 1 x concat_file | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:35:54] <bda> (well, I copy a pre-bootstrapped copy to new systems, but that's neither here nor there) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:36:32] <eventi> ok | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:36:43] <eventi> but anyway - Volcane: I don't know what prefix was set to | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:36:57] <bda> eventi: Use dtruss (from the DTraceToolkit) see which files its opening. Or opensnoop. Or snoop to sniff for Puppet traffic. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:37:19] <bda> Or pass --server. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:37:50] <bda> --verbose --debug .. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:37:52] <eventi> of the ones you mentioned, I have only snoop | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:38:12] <diranged> volcane: when i thought i had my system working, it was this simple... http://www.pastie.org/742843 | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:38:14] <bda> Right. The others are part of the DTT, which you'd need to download. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:38:25] <bda> Regardless, you should just be able to have Puppet tell you what it's doing. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:38:35] <bda> How did you install Puppet? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:38:47] <eventi> using rubygems | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:38:55] <bda> And rubygems from..? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:38:58] <eventi> gem update && genm install puppet | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:39:11] <eventi> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetSolaris | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:39:12] <bda> Blastwave? SFW? SFE? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:39:21] <eventi> http://rubyforge.org/frs/download.php/45905/rubygems-1.3.1.tgz | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:40:03] <bda> Go look under /opt/sfw/etc. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:40:04] <eventi> bda - I appreciate the help, but I havn't so much as looked at solaris in 8 yrs | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:40:10] * bda doesn't use Sunfreewhere, so is guessing. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:40:33] <eventi> so I really don't know diddly about packaging, etc... | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:41:11] <eventi> I only have local pkgsrc webmin in /opt | ||
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| [2009/12/14 12:43:49] <eventi> actually - looks like ruby was installed already | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:43:54] <eventi> and prehaps gems | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:45:09] <eventi> puppetd --test --debug --verbose gave me this: http://www.pastie.org/742858 | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:45:15] <diranged> bah... screw the inline line replace... ill just managed the files directly with inline_template. simple, and dynamic. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:49:37] <eventi> so bda: How would I install with pkgsrc? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:52:51] <bda> eventi: I would rather suggest you use Blastwave. It will act more like you expect it to. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:53:07] <bda> eventi: That said, I don't think this is a package/install problem. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:53:08] <eventi> that's what I'm trying now | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:53:09] <bda> Puppet obviously Works. It's just not doing what you expect it to. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:53:14] <eventi> Oh - I know :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:53:54] <bda> Keep PATHs in mind when juggling package managers. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:54:17] * bda needs to go buy some meds. & | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:54:18] <eventi> do you usually have to add /opt/???/bin to the path? | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:54:28] <bda> Yes, if you want to use the binary. :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:54:34] <eventi> lol | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:55:00] <bda> http://www.pastie.org/private/bvrgh4y7nnqrid3fmlca # My PATH. | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:55:16] <bda> Anyway, need to & | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:55:17] <eventi> holy mother of | ||
| [2009/12/14 12:55:18] <eventi> go - get well | ||
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| [2009/12/14 13:00:04] <diranged> ok.. one 'default' feature of cfengine that i miss is that when a bad config is pushed out, the clients that break email you. | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:00:34] <diranged> is the only way to do that in puppet with a custom crontab entry in an || statement? (every 10 min, run puppet --server || email me? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 13:03:37] <fsweetser> I believe you can get that if you have reporting enabled | ||
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| [2009/12/14 13:11:22] <KarlHungus> so distributing a few thousand zone files over puppets filebucket is NOT a good idea | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:11:23] <KarlHungus> :P | ||
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| [2009/12/14 13:27:23] <diranged> hmm is git://reductivelabs.comf still available? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:27:26] <diranged> im getting connection refused | ||
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| [2009/12/14 13:31:06] <greenfly> quick naginator question: when one configures directives that should set up a configuration file on the nagios server (like new host configs), how does puppet/naginator know /who/ is the nagios server? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:31:40] <Volcane> you either include the classes that does it on the nagios server | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:32:02] <Volcane> or you only realize the resources on the nagios server | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:32:31] <greenfly> but if you make use of things like $fqdn for the templates, etc. how does that fit in? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:32:40] <greenfly> won't it just create one host config for the nagios server itself? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:32:55] <greenfly> ie. how can I make it so that every new host I add, will also add its host definition to the nagios server? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:33:01] <Volcane> depends how you use them, are you doing it with exported resources? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:33:20] <greenfly> I haven't set anything up yet for nagios definitions | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:33:27] <Volcane> like here http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ExportedResources ? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:33:30] <greenfly> so I'm open to suggestions | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:35:12] <greenfly> Volcane: so in the linked example, I'd include nagios-target with each host I want nagios to monitor, and only include nagios-monitor on the nagios server? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:35:15] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:35:30] <greenfly> and presumably that @@ syntax (I'm a perl guy, new to ruby) does some sort of append? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:35:50] <greenfly> and the <<||>> in the nagios-monitor section is the magic that dumps all of that? | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:35:56] <Volcane> puppet doesnt use ruby syntax, its a language on its own | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:36:12] <Volcane> @@ stores it in a database | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:36:23] <Volcane> <<| |>> fetches from the db and saves it to a machine | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:36:39] <greenfly> ok | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:36:57] <greenfly> this makes a lot more sense. thanks | ||
| [2009/12/14 13:39:19] <opqdonut> heh | ||
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| [2009/12/14 13:58:32] <Phibs> hmm /w 14 | ||
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| [2009/12/14 14:11:13] <diranged> ok im trying to get puppet to generate reports and rrds... but having issues | ||
| [2009/12/14 14:13:51] <Phibs> woot removed all the puppet rpms on my master, backed up the var and etc dirs | ||
| [2009/12/14 14:14:00] <Phibs> installed ruby enterprise, and puppet/facter from git, configured, moved stuff back into place, everything still works | ||
| [2009/12/14 14:14:13] <Phibs> moved to passenger too | ||
| [2009/12/14 14:14:15] <Phibs> amazing :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 14:17:40] <diranged> are rrd graphs generated by the client itself? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 14:37:19] <diranged> ok why is it sometimes i see a file have its content changeed to 'unknown chceksum'? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 14:48:23] <hacim> where in the database is the contents of the exported resources? | ||
| [2009/12/14 14:48:36] <hacim> I found the resource table itself, which lists the id, title, type, etc. but not the contents | ||
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| [2009/12/14 15:06:22] <paxos> barg.. webrick blows | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:06:33] <paxos> passenger is the preferred solution? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 15:07:07] <fsweetser> it's what I use, others prefer nginx | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:07:11] <paxos> I already have apache on the box | ||
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| [2009/12/14 15:16:12] <KarlHungus> hrm | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:16:15] <KarlHungus> http://pastebin.com/d13ceda43 | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:16:16] <KarlHungus> i keep getting a rbuf_fill timeout when running 'puppetd --onetime --verbose --no-daemonize' on the client | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:16:22] <KarlHungus> the server is apache/passenger | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:16:28] <KarlHungus> all 25.1 | ||
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| [2009/12/14 15:38:38] <diranged> ok if i wanted to be super obsessive about managing a particular host... can I tell it "heres a list of every package that should be installed, don't let ANY other package stay installed"? | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:43:00] <arj> which os? | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:43:05] <plathrop> diranged: Check out the "resources" resource, and it's accompanying "purge" parameter. | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:43:17] <plathrop> diranged: I do not recommend pursuing this course of action, though. It can only end in tears. | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:44:09] <KarlHungus> ^ this | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:44:44] <diranged> k thanks, ill read about it in a few | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:44:45] <nico> +1 plathrop | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:44:58] <nico> "oops, I forgot to mention the libc" | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:44:58] <KarlHungus> diranged: run your own private repo | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:45:03] <nico> *kaboom* | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:46:07] <plathrop> Or "oh noes they added a new critical package to the default install in the latest version of <distribution of choice>!" | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:48:05] <joe-mac> lol, yea ibn fact didn't deb recently change to a different libc | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:48:10] <joe-mac> by different i mean ! glibc | ||
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| [2009/12/14 15:55:36] <stick> anyone have a good example (github or wherever) of a puppet module that follows the ModuleStandards doc? | ||
| [2009/12/14 15:55:47] <nico> http://git.black.co.at | ||
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| [2009/12/14 16:05:36] <jason^> on this screenshot, where does the "groups" come from? http://reductivelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Puppet-Node-View.png | ||
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| [2009/12/14 16:06:09] <jb> hm, what is that screenshot from? | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:06:36] <jason^> puppet dashboard | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:06:45] <jb> is that an active project? | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:07:02] <Djelibeybi> jb: yeah, brand-new from Reductive Labs | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:07:17] <jb> oh wow, is there an announcement somewhere? | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:08:03] <Djelibeybi> jb: it's been announced on puppet-dev so far. I think they want more testing before announcing to puppet-users | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:08:14] <Djelibeybi> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/projects/dashboard | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:08:38] <jb> thanks | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:08:40] <Volcane> and now on the users list | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:08:56] <jb> so its pretty much a foreman-ish dashboard without the system build stuff | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:09:06] <Djelibeybi> Volcane: ah, true. My auto-sort shoved it into -dev so I didn't notice the cc | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:10:56] <jb> wow this looks nice :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 16:12:14] <joe-mac> i can't wait until this supports stored configs | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:16:56] <joe-mac> i don't rly want to install it on each of my masters... | ||
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| [2009/12/14 16:23:08] <eventi> does group work on solaris? | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:24:56] <eventi> I'm trying to create a wheel group with group { "wheel : } and nothing happens | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:25:34] <eventi> minus the typo... | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:28:44] <joe-mac> add ensure => "present"; after "wheel": | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:28:44] <joe-mac> so like group { "wheel": ensure => "present"; } | ||
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| [2009/12/14 16:29:05] * jb is very excited about puppet dashboard :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:30:28] <eventi> worked - thanks | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:30:33] <joe-mac> np | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:31:00] <eventi> bda - still here? | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:33:30] <eventi> anyone know how to get packages to work on Solaris? | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:33:51] <eventi> err: Sun packages must specify a package source | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:34:28] <joe-mac> eventi: similar thing on openbsd, you have ot include the URL in the package name iirc | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:35:22] <eventi> yuck | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:40:13] <eventi> interresting - there's a blastwave proider | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:41:26] <eventi> how can I override the provider for a node? | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:41:41] <eventi> (and the nodes that inherrit it?) | ||
| [2009/12/14 16:44:16] <eventi> and the answer is: Package { provider => blastwave } | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:04:20] <dan__t> Huh. So could I define a var in a class, like $has_thisclass = 1, and then use that in a different class applied to the host? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:04:22] <dan__t> Or in templates even? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:04:39] <dan__t> So in a template I can do like, if $has_thisclass == 1 do this else do that etc etc | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:21:38] <jamesturnbull> Apologies all -Trac is now restarted | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:21:58] <dan__t> Lies. | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:23:24] <dan__t> So today is Statistics Day. I've been able to spend the entire day putting stuff in to Zabbix. | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:23:29] @ Quit: tecto: | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:23:38] <dan__t> And I mean everything. Evne down to connection statistics via netstat. | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:23:40] <jb> zenoss ftw :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:24:25] <dan__t> ...can lick my sack. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:24:42] <jb> yeah because deploying agents is super cool! | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:24:53] <jb> just giving you a hard time. | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:25:09] <dan__t> It is when I have something like puppet haha | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:25:09] * Volcane doensnt particularly like how zabbix will run the 'mysql' binary once for each var it tries to fetch for example - based on their default agents ofcourse | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:25:16] <jb> haha | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:25:17] <jb> well | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:25:18] <jb> yeah | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:26:01] <Volcane> gives me nightmare of some enterprise monitoring tools that kills servers on their own | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:26:19] <dan__t> haha | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:26:26] <gpled> need an example for my module. if my /etc/config.file gets updated, i would like to restart service x | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:26:40] <jb> you need notify | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:26:46] <jb> on the config.file resource | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:26:47] <Volcane> gpled: file{"/etc/config.file": notify => Service["x"]} | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:27:02] <Volcane> gpled: assuming you already have service{"x": ... } too | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:27:17] <jb> so are you guys hype about puppet dashboard or what? :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:27:24] <gpled> so notify tells the service to restart? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:27:35] <jb> gpled: wiki::TypeReference | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:27:41] <dan__t> Kinda confused on variable scope. Given two classes applied to a node, can I define $foo = 1 in one of the classes, and be able to call $foo from he other class? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:27:50] <Volcane> gpled: yup, you can also have service{"x": subscribe => File["/etc/foo"]} | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:27:54] <jb> yes, it says "whenever config.file gets updated, notify the Service["x"]" | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:28:16] <Volcane> dan__t: $foo::bar | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:28:22] <dan__t> hm | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:28:34] <dan__t> if $foo::bar ... ... | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:28:35] <dan__t> ?? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:28:37] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:28:40] <gpled> k, thanks. will see what i can whip up | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:28:58] <dan__t> Very cool. Thank you. | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:29:16] <dan__t> Er, how about on a global level? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:29:40] <dan__t> Basically trying to put confs together based on if machine X runs service Y | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:29:41] <Volcane> its a bit sucky cos its order dependant, very counter intuitive in the light of puppet not being order dependant and all | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:29:53] <dan__t> i.e. if mail server, include stats package X | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:30:02] <dan__t> So I need to define "mail server" somewhere. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:30:45] <Volcane> dan__t: if defined(Class["mailserver"]) | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:30:52] <Volcane> dan__t: also order dependant | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:30:57] <dan__t> hmmm | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:31:10] <dan__t> Ok, I'll play around with that. | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:31:28] <dan__t> Thanks! | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:31:42] <dan__t> wait, can I use that in erb? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:32:19] <Volcane> no, so use those in your class, and set variables | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:32:25] <Volcane> check those variables in your template | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:32:47] <Volcane> (you *can* do it in the template but its less nice and prone to changing) | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:32:47] <dan__t> oh, right. sorry. | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:32:52] <dan__t> Got it. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:33:26] <dan__t> Thanks man. | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:34:57] <gpled> here is what iv come up with: http://linux-coders.pastebin.com/d20d5a3e | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:35:19] <gpled> can i move the notify to the first file section? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:35:26] <gpled> right under source? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:35:28] <Phibs> woot the puppet dashboard looks tits! | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:35:43] <jb> tits! | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:35:47] <Phibs> yeah tits! | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:35:54] <Volcane> gpled: u can have it on as many file resources as you want, you also though need service{"foo": } somewhere, both service and Service | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:36:57] <hacim> puppet dashboard? | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:37:00] <jb> yes | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:37:26] <jb> http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://reductivelabs.com/2009/12/14/a-tour-of-puppet-dashboard-0-1-0&usg=AFQjCNFS7QLoK_ohSd8rsJ0uEmex72p-pg | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:37:29] <jb> oops | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:37:34] <jb> well, you get the point :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:40:11] <gpled> hmmm, so puppet will have a web page that will show status? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:40:55] <jb> well, you can already use foreman for this | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:45:18] <gpled> Volcane: this looking better? http://linux-coders.pastebin.com/d4f24be3d | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:45:50] <Volcane> nothing like a test run to see how it works :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 17:46:13] <Volcane> lots of hints on debgging/testing/etc this kind of thing here http://www.devco.net/archives/2009/08/19/tips_and_tricks_for_puppet_debugging.php | ||
| [2009/12/14 17:46:56] <gpled> o working is secondary. looking good comes first :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 18:04:02] <dan__t> wow, puppet dashboard does look pretty pad-ass. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 18:18:03] <Phibs> yeah | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:18:08] <Phibs> wonder when there will be passenger instructions | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:19:31] <barn> Phibs: like those http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingPassenger ??? | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:20:02] <Volcane> barn: he means to use puppet dashboard under pass :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:20:17] <barn> oh sorry | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:20:31] <barn> there was a load of /joins and I didn't read the scrollback | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:20:37] <Volcane> nods :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:20:39] <barn> I thought that was too easy (: | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:21:00] <Volcane> lol | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:21:19] <barn> I get Passenger by Iggy Pop in my head everytime that stupid thing crops up | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:21:35] <barn> what was wrong with mod_rails? there isn't a song for that! | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:21:53] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:23:09] <hggh> Volcane: how much memory consume the activeMQ on every server? | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:23:22] <Volcane> hggh: i have 1 x activemq per country | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:23:54] <Volcane> hggh: each node just needs a small daemon - mcollective daemon | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:24:11] <Volcane> hggh: and that ones small: root 14316 0.0 2.8 28820 14688 | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:24:18] <hggh> Volcane: ah ok | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:24:34] <hggh> aeh yeah. I mean the mcollective daemon | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:25:04] <Volcane> ah ok | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:25:08] <Volcane> yeah thats it there, tiny | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:25:16] <hggh> yes it is | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:25:36] <Volcane> goes a bit bigger when u start doing packages/services cos that loads in some puppet bits | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:25:44] <Volcane> but short lived as the threads die and memory comes back | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:26:21] <dan__t> inline_template looks kinda rad.... | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:26:41] <dan__t> Bet I can use that to adjust sudo executable permissions for something like sudo. | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:26:52] <Volcane> dan__t: it runs on the master | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:27:12] <eric0> makes me think of depechemode 'sweet little girl / i prefer you behind the wheel / and me the passenger' :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:27:12] <dan__t> Yeah, but with it I can form a string that makes up the contents of, say, a sudoers file for example. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 18:27:45] <dan__t> Can I concat with it? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 18:28:04] <dan__t> $foo = inline_template($bar $var1 $var2 $var3) etc etc | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:29:05] <Volcane> normal template() can also concat | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:29:24] <dan__t> wouldn't inline_template be more appropriate for, say, inline templating? | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:29:27] <dan__t> Or does it even matter? | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:30:02] <Volcane> inline_template is like a hack when u want to do something simple now and then when writing your own functions would be too much effort | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:30:10] <dan__t> Got it. | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:31:25] <Phibs> barn: yeah :) | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:31:29] <Phibs> teh dizzzzashboard | ||
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| [2009/12/14 18:33:43] <Diranged> Mon Dec 14 15:19:55 -0800 2009 //basenode/Auth::Key[bob]/File[/home/bob] (err): Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Could not find user bob … for some reason my auth::key module works perfect on centos systems, but on ubuntu boxes it comes up with a warning. it works anyways, but still sends this warning every time it runs. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 18:39:11] <Diranged> these are ldap users… and it seems to randomly pick a user to fail on. im wondering if its some kind of a ldap timeout... | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:39:37] * Volcane sees puppet go titsup on user dependencies on his debian boxes all the time thanks to ldap | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:39:53] <whack> ldap in production :( | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:40:01] <Volcane> yeah, craptacular | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:40:02] <Volcane> bbl | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:40:35] <kjetilho> sounds like a craptacular LDAP setup ;-) | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:40:59] <kjetilho> although I do recommend using nscd with LDAP | ||
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| [2009/12/14 18:45:57] <Diranged> that might be the diff… the ubuntu boxes dont have nscd on it .. interesting catch | ||
| [2009/12/14 18:46:12] <Diranged> but the centos ones dont have it on anyways | ||
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| [2009/12/14 18:52:51] <Phibs> Diranged: ruby-shadow module missing? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:48:59] <ggillies> interesting situation with variable scoping | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:49:04] <ggillies> if I have a setup like http://pastebin.com/m40718201 | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:49:23] <ggillies> if I run it I get Class base has not been evaluated so its variables cannot be referenced | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:49:44] <ggillies> which I understand, because it's still evaluating base when it's evaluating mail | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:50:15] <ggillies> I can fix it by having "include base" in the mail class, but that sort of makes readability not too great (looks like a cyclic dependency?) | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:50:25] <ggillies> was wondering if anyone has any better suggestions on how to handle a situation like that | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:51:53] <bodepd> ggillies: separate out parameters to node. | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:52:02] <bodepd> nodes | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:52:42] <ggillies> so under node definition have $server_admin defined | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:53:20] <bodepd> ggillies: yes, the best way to handle params is with an external node classifier. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:53:47] <ggillies> hmm ok | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:53:57] <ggillies> thanks | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:54:02] <bodepd> ggillies: this allows you to set all params related to a host at topscope. Params are something that belong to hosts, not classes. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:54:53] <ggillies> what about a default value, do you recommend a default "node" that all nodes inherit from | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:54:58] <bodepd> ggillies: we are working on our own external node classifier, the dashboard. Its a little alpha-ish | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:55:23] <bodepd> ggilies: the idea is to set parameter inheritance in the clasifier. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 19:56:57] <ggillies> hmm sorry a little confused by the term clasifier | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:58:12] <ggillies> oh wait I think I understand | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:58:38] <ggillies> so all variable evaluation is done outside puppet itself and you present to puppet the final "evaluation" of all variables | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:58:51] <bodepd> ggillies: its a script that determines top scope variables and class names for a host, and passes them to puppet | ||
| [2009/12/14 19:59:04] <bodepd> exactly :) | ||
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| [2009/12/14 20:00:50] <bodepd> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ExternalNodes | ||
| [2009/12/14 20:01:02] <bodepd> there are two implementations out there. | ||
| [2009/12/14 20:01:27] <ggillies> yeah fair enough | ||
| [2009/12/14 20:01:46] <ggillies> I agree with all of that, unfortunately I am maintaining an existing environment so making such a change isn't trivial :( | ||
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| [2009/12/14 20:06:24] <bodepd> you mean that you cant include mail without including base? Thats your problem? | ||
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| [2009/12/14 20:07:19] <bodepd> I really hate the idea of calling variables from within other enclosures. | ||
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| [2009/12/14 20:10:35] <ggillies> no I mean moving all variables out into external nodes | ||
| [2009/12/14 20:10:50] <ggillies> but yeah for the moment the include base in mail will have to work | ||
| [2009/12/14 20:10:52] <ggillies> thanks for the help :) | ||
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