Saturday, 2009-12-05

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[2009/12/05 11:24:47] <ashp> hmm, i have to ask
[2009/12/05 11:24:53] <ashp> how is the puppet dashboard compared to foreman?
[2009/12/05 11:25:12] <Volcane> one is brand new code lacking in features, one is older code lacking in fewer features
[2009/12/05 11:25:34] <ashp> really i want some screenshots because like most terrible people I base my technical opinion on how pretty it is
[2009/12/05 11:25:42] <Volcane> it takes literally 1 minute to setup
[2009/12/05 11:25:45] <ashp> i assume they've been working on the dashboard for a while at least
[2009/12/05 11:25:45] <Volcane> 2 commands
[2009/12/05 11:25:55] <Volcane> almost quicker than browsing to a site with screenshots
[2009/12/05 11:26:01] <Cope> ashp: install it; form your opinion.
[2009/12/05 11:26:04] <ashp> I'll give it a whirl on monday, I already set up foreman but didn't get the chance to look at it
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[2009/12/05 11:27:36] <ohadlevy> volcane - funny that you say that :)
[2009/12/05 11:27:52] <Volcane> is it not true? :)
[2009/12/05 11:49:52] * Volcane got a nice ~180 node mcollective deploy to do for a client 2 weeks from now
[2009/12/05 11:50:12] <Volcane> to help automate deploys of crappy fastcgi thing
[2009/12/05 11:53:36] <hggh> woha! puppted eat's up my servers. 60MB of memory
[2009/12/05 11:54:02] <Volcane> only?
[2009/12/05 11:54:04] <Volcane> :)
[2009/12/05 11:54:09] <hggh> haha
[2009/12/05 11:55:02] <Volcane> if you're cerned about ram run it from cron
[2009/12/05 11:55:08] <Volcane> then at least its only now and then and not always
[2009/12/05 11:55:16] <Volcane> and you're not so exposed to the various ruby related leaks
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[2009/12/05 11:56:13] <hggh> yes, that's on my plan to switch running it from cron
[2009/12/05 11:56:29] <Volcane> I've not looked back since doing it, def the better way
[2009/12/05 12:00:20] <duritong> 60MB
[2009/12/05 12:00:36] <duritong> ...
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[2009/12/05 12:03:20] <Cope> hggh: with a random delay
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[2009/12/05 12:04:11] <Cope> I have a script run out of cron which runs puppetd with a random length sleep
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[2009/12/05 13:01:25] <Darkflib> or you could sleep based on a value from the ip or mac address... more deterministic and still spreads the load
[2009/12/05 13:01:53] <Darkflib> even 2x the last octet (for a class c network) would work well enough I suppose...
[2009/12/05 13:02:08] <Darkflib> would spread them over approx 10 minutes...
[2009/12/05 13:06:45] * Volcane just does: sleep $(($RANDOM % 900))
[2009/12/05 13:07:31] <kjetilho> check out the rand_fqdn function
[2009/12/05 13:07:44] <kjetilho> perfect for cron usage
[2009/12/05 13:09:04] <Darkflib> I suppose it really depends on how you cron it... you can either calc the delay during the cron install... (rand_fqdn would be ideal for that) or you can calc the delay during the cron run...
[2009/12/05 13:09:31] <kjetilho> I use it to set the minute part of the cron job
[2009/12/05 13:09:42] <Darkflib> kjetilho, makes sense...
[2009/12/05 13:10:21] <Darkflib> currently my load isn't really high enough to cause a problem...
[2009/12/05 13:10:29] <Darkflib> so I've not bothered with it yet...
[2009/12/05 13:12:02] <Volcane> yeah i dont care if the nodes run at the same time ever time
[2009/12/05 13:12:42] <Volcane> do use fqdn rand though at places - like machines get random vanity names
[2009/12/05 13:12:50] <Volcane> based on fqdn rand, choose from a huge pile of possible names
[2009/12/05 13:14:02] <Darkflib> hmm... hadn't considered that...
[2009/12/05 13:14:06] <Darkflib> cool idea though
[2009/12/05 13:14:39] <Darkflib> although I would probably do it based on my kickstart generator instead of through puppet
[2009/12/05 13:15:01] <Volcane> http://pastie.org/729225
[2009/12/05 13:15:04] <Volcane> thats what i do with it
[2009/12/05 13:15:09] <Volcane> so needs to be in puppet
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[2009/12/05 13:27:36] <hggh> Volcane: how do you collect the used modules for one host?
[2009/12/05 13:28:09] <hggh> some weeks again I tried this with $modules_used += ['apache2'] but did not get working
[2009/12/05 13:28:12] <hacim> so I've got a problem i'm trying to track down by adding debug messages to puppet, this seems to be where my puppet error is: db_resource.merge_parser_resource(resource). how can I print the values of the "resource" array?
[2009/12/05 13:28:18] <hggh> s/again/ago/
[2009/12/05 13:28:48] <Volcane> hggh: the motd is built up with snippets. so a module that wants to show up there does motd::register{"apache module": }
[2009/12/05 13:29:03] <Volcane> hggh: and if i ever just delete the 'include' line that will vanish automagically
[2009/12/05 13:29:43] <hggh> Volcane: ah. ok that's cool :)
[2009/12/05 13:33:40] <Darkflib> http://nephilim.ml.org/~rip/puppet/concatfile/
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[2009/12/05 13:41:43] <Darkflib> http://www.mail-archive.com/puppet-users@googlegroups.com/msg06635.html
[2009/12/05 13:41:57] <Darkflib> (with the above link for concatting files)
[2009/12/05 13:45:05] <Volcane> yeah, thats me :P
[2009/12/05 13:46:32] <Darkflib> I guessed... I googled 'motd register'
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[2009/12/05 14:12:14] <Desdic> Hi all, is there a way to stop puppet from loggin a 'notice' for a specific module ?
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[2009/12/05 14:55:06] <Desdic> anyone know a way to supress a notice message from a module ?
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[2009/12/05 15:34:24] <Desdic> I guess I'm the only one online today
[2009/12/05 15:34:38] <kjetilho> nah
[2009/12/05 15:34:46] <Desdic> :)
[2009/12/05 15:34:56] <kjetilho> it's just a stupid^Wuninteresting question
[2009/12/05 15:35:10] <Desdic> hmm thanks :(
[2009/12/05 15:35:30] <kjetilho> don't log notices, or don't add notice statements to your configuration
[2009/12/05 15:36:08] <Desdic> well its a exec that runs every time so I can't really 'not' add it
[2009/12/05 15:36:47] <Desdic> so what you suggest is that I don't log notice at all ?
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[2009/12/05 15:41:24] <kjetilho> or look into how you can make that exec not run all the time
[2009/12/05 15:42:26] <Desdic> hmm
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[2009/12/05 16:52:29] <hexasoft> hello
[2009/12/05 16:53:44] <hexasoft> I finally managed to put a load-balencer on top of my puppetmaster+passenger, to equilibrate loads beetween me servers.
[2009/12/05 16:54:28] <hexasoft> the result is: do not use a proxy-ssl, but a simple transparent proxy. It seems to failed (with strange results) in the first case.
[2009/12/05 16:54:50] <ashp> Hmm I have some interesting nerd work ahead of me, this dedicated server I bought uses a 'vKVM' based on quem of all things, and you can't easily install regular OS installs via it
[2009/12/05 16:55:13] <ashp> for linux you can splat enough to get a network installer booted and go from there, but anything more complex is hard :/
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[2009/12/05 18:07:05] <gepetto> ::trac:: Reference Index edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ReferenceIndex?version=14
[2009/12/05 18:07:05] <gepetto> ::trac:: Reference Index edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ReferenceIndex?version=15
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[2009/12/05 22:58:28] <hoangelos> Im' having a problem not sure how to solve.
[2009/12/05 22:58:37] <hoangelos> have a node that keeps asking for old configurations
[2009/12/05 22:59:10] <hoangelos> I tried removing the include file in the puppet server and then restarting puppetmaster, but it still asks for it anyway
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[2009/12/05 23:14:36] <hoangelos> deleted /var/lib/puppet/localconfig.yaml and the restarted puppet and it just corrected itself
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