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| [2009/06/29 01:01:27] <Djelibeybi> gepetto: seen masterzen | ||
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| [2009/06/29 01:07:57] <Djelibeybi> Is there a performance difference in having multiple file{} resources as opposed to one resources and lots of files seperated by a semi-colon? | ||
| [2009/06/29 01:08:03] <Djelibeybi> one resource, I mean | ||
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| [2009/06/29 01:15:45] <gstratton> Does anyone know how onlyif is evaluated in an exec | ||
| [2009/06/29 01:16:01] <gstratton> I have the onlyif value set to something like [ $path/buildout.cfg -nt $path/.installed.cfg ] | ||
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| [2009/06/29 01:16:45] <gstratton> It works correctly in my shell, and I could swear it used to work in Puppet as well, but now it seems that it never returns true. | ||
| [2009/06/29 01:17:33] <gstratton> Presumably Puppet is calling bash? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 01:37:19] <Djelibeybi> gstratton: don't you need to call test specifically? | ||
| [2009/06/29 01:39:57] <gstratton> Djelibeybi: Looks promising, so I guess so. | ||
| [2009/06/29 01:40:03] <gstratton> Thanks! | ||
| [2009/06/29 01:40:08] <Djelibeybi> gstratton: np | ||
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| [2009/06/29 04:02:14] <nico> Found dependency cycles in the following relationships: Service[heartbeat] => File[/etc/ha.d/authkeys], Service[heartbeat] => File[/etc/ha.d/ha.cf], File[/etc/ha.d/ha.cf] => Service[heartbeat], Service[heartbeat] => File[/etc/ha.d/haresources] | ||
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| [2009/06/29 04:02:18] <nico> \o/ | ||
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| [2009/06/29 04:43:51] <thegcat> I have an oldish version of puppet+facter, what path would I need to add to RUBYLIB to get the "puppet" facts as in facter --puppet? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 04:45:48] <thegcat> or to ask the more to the point question I have: does puppet include a fact containing the username with which it is run? | ||
| [2009/06/29 04:49:11] <nico> not to my knowledge, but puppetd --genconfig | grep user will give you an advice | ||
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| [2009/06/29 05:02:25] <maxagaz> hi | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:02:42] <maxagaz> when i run: puppetd --no-daemonize --logdest console --onetime | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:02:53] <maxagaz> i get the following error message: | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:03:07] <maxagaz> /usr/sbin/puppetd:297: undefined method `genconfig' for Puppet:Module (NoMethodError) | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:03:22] <maxagaz> does someone know how to solve it ? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 05:39:48] <duritong> maxagaz: client/master version? | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:40:54] <maxagaz> client | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:40:58] <maxagaz> 2.4 | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:41:22] <maxagaz> sorry, 0.24.7 | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:41:25] <maxagaz> duritong | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:41:44] <duritong> and master? | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:42:09] <maxagaz> same | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:42:41] <duritong> can you paste somewhere the output of --debug --trace ? | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:43:06] <maxagaz> duritong, you mean: puppetd --debug --trace | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:43:07] <maxagaz> ? | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:43:22] <duritong> puppetd --debug --trace --test | ||
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| [2009/06/29 05:55:04] <maxagaz> root@myhost:~# puppetd --debug --trace --test | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:55:05] <maxagaz> /usr/sbin/puppetd:297: undefined method `genconfig' for Puppet:Module (NoMethodError) | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:55:07] <maxagaz> duritong, | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:56:12] <duritong> hmm I don't get it, there should be a trace and debug statements | ||
| [2009/06/29 05:56:30] <duritong> however maybe upgrade to 0.24.8 anyway it's much more stable | ||
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| [2009/06/29 06:08:38] <thegcat> can I do a plusignement on a virtual resource? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 06:09:42] <thegcat> something like @user { "someguy": groups => ["somegroup"] } \ @User["someguy"] { groups +> ["othergroup"] } | ||
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| [2009/06/29 06:19:19] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: how did you install Puppet? | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:19:56] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: that error suggests you've got two versions installed | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:20:04] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: did you upgrade via tarball? | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:20:11] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, i first installed it via aptitude, and then installed the 0.24.7 from tarball | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:20:29] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, i guesses everything! :) | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:20:36] <maxagaz> you guessed | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:20:36] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: you need to delete the old version entirely | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:20:43] <maxagaz> ok | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:21:43] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: remove the package and then delete the /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet (or wherever the tarball installed) | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:21:53] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: and start from scratch :) | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:22:06] <Volcane> (preferably with a package and not tarballs) | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:22:09] <Volcane> tarballs-- | ||
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| [2009/06/29 06:34:17] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, Volcane, if i remove puppet, it removes a lot of dependancies, then i can't install the tarball anymore | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:34:52] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: then uninstall the tarball and use the package | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:41:37] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, but then the puppet client won't be of the same version as the puppet server | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:42:28] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: what can't you install the same package on both hosts? also if the master is a later release it should be able to manage older clients | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:43:37] <jamesturnbull> s/what/why/ | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:47:56] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, usually, i install puppet via aptitude on my clients, and then install the tarball of 0.24.7, and it works fine | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:48:24] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: that's not an recommended approach | ||
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| [2009/06/29 06:48:40] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: in fact it's likely to cause you problems as you've discovered .. YMMV | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:48:52] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, I see | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:49:07] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, this was the method of the admin guy before me | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:49:53] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: I'd recommend a package-based install - roll your own if you need a later version - but packages are much easier to manage IMHO | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:50:58] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, i should learn how to make a deb package for puppet | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:51:12] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, do you know of a howto for that ? | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:52:40] <maxagaz> jamesturnbull, to uninstall the tarball of puppet, the only way is to 'locate puppet' and remove listed files, right ? | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:52:46] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: have a look at wiki:PuppetDebian | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:52:47] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: maxagaz: wiki:PuppetDebian is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetDebian | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:53:10] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: delete the /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet direcotry and then any binaries | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:54:10] <maxagaz> ok, it's /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/ for me | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:54:56] <maxagaz> by the way, i use ubuntu hardy, i guess i can still follow the wiki | ||
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| [2009/06/29 06:55:49] <jamesturnbull> maxagaz: wiki:PuppetUbuntu | ||
| [2009/06/29 06:55:49] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: maxagaz: wiki:PuppetUbuntu is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetUbuntu | ||
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| [2009/06/29 07:14:30] <nico> This should be a moto for all admins : "If you have a package management that don't suck, use it" | ||
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| [2009/06/29 07:18:36] <maxagaz> duritong, jamesturnbull, gepetto, thanks a lot for your help, i'll finish the work tonight (i'll probably have some more questions at this time) | ||
| [2009/06/29 07:21:35] <nico> maxagaz: gepetto is a bot | ||
| [2009/06/29 07:22:14] <maxagaz> ah :) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 07:40:07] <jamesturnbull> nico: but like a father to me... | ||
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| [2009/06/29 07:40:28] <nico> jamesturnbull: :) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 07:50:38] <abien> If i have a modules, which has several nested classes.. and puppet does not seem to do anything with it even though the module is included on this node -- what could be common pitfalls that are causing my demise? :P | ||
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| [2009/06/29 08:17:56] <FiXion> how do I have many scripts add contents from their folders to the same /dest folder on a puppet client? | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:18:12] <FiXion> I've named them differently - but as the path (dest. folder) is the same - puppet complains | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:18:43] <FiXion> I'd like to make scripts available in /usr/local/sbin|bin as necessary | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:18:59] <FiXion> but also NOT make them available - when the script wouldn't work anyways.. as to not confuse :) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 08:22:30] <FiXion> hmm. | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:23:04] <abien> If i import a module, its subclassess will not automaticly be evaluated? -> http://pastie.org/527907 | ||
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| [2009/06/29 08:24:26] <thegcat> shouldn't import understand globs? | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:24:35] <thegcat> i.e. import "nodes*" ? | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:24:38] <FiXion> abien: if they are in init.pp they'll be available for inclusion. but not run. | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:25:02] <FiXion> thegcat: it does under folders "folder/*" | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:25:15] <jamesturnbull> abien: I also recommend bootstrap::yum and bootstrap::packages | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:26:10] <FiXion> any of you distribute scripts via puppet? | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:26:48] <FiXion> I'd like to add/remove scripts to /usr/local/sbin - depending on host tasks.. without having to specify each and every script. | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:27:03] <HarryCalahan> FiXion: yes. but they are basic shell scripts | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:27:06] <FiXion> I was hoping to copy contents of puppetmaster-side folders | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:27:29] <jamesturnbull> abien: wiki:ModuleOrganisation | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:27:31] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: abien: wiki:ModuleOrganisation is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:27:38] <FiXion> HarryCalahan: mine' shell scripts as well. | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:27:43] <HarryCalahan> FiXion: simple file resources. one for each script. | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:27:51] <FiXion> I have 20+ scripts - would hate that solution | ||
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| [2009/06/29 08:28:07] <HarryCalahan> write a config file generator ;) | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:28:24] <jamesturnbull> FiXion: a define? | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:28:30] <thegcat> FiXion: won't do either: No file(s) found for import of './nodes*' at /etc/puppet/manifests/site.pp:16 | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:29:28] <jamesturnbull> thegcat: what are you trying to do? | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:29:32] <FiXion> jamesturnbull: I was thinking of that - but can it do absent? | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:29:53] <FiXion> if I call it with a $status var perhaps - which defaults to present. | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:30:00] <thegcat> jamesturnbull: just having different node definitions in different node_*.pp files | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:30:03] <FiXion> I haven't tried that one out | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:30:06] <jamesturnbull> thegcat: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageTutorial#importing-manifests | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:30:09] <FiXion> I'll see if puppet eats it :) | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:30:10] <abien> jamesturnbull: thx. I see. But is there a switch of some sort to make puppet run all of the classes of my module? bootstrap::* or something? | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:30:17] <thegcat> like node_client1.pp, node_client2.pp etc | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:30:36] <jamesturnbull> FiXion: that should work | ||
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| [2009/06/29 08:32:49] <thegcat> jamesturnbull: might it be that puppet doesn't like underscore(s) in filenames? | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:34:46] <jamesturnbull> thegcat: shouldn't care I would have thought | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:34:59] <jamesturnbull> abien: no | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:35:17] <thegcat> mmh, great, "nodes*.pp" works now, I could have sworn it didn't just 5 minutes ago... | ||
| [2009/06/29 08:37:10] <thegcat> jamesturnbull: seems it doesn't care, but either I am just to dumb and missed import "nodes*.pp" while tinkering, or something else or whatever, but it is happy with it now... | ||
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| [2009/06/29 09:26:26] <FiXion> I have several scripts that different modules need .. | ||
| [2009/06/29 09:26:43] <FiXion> I was thinking of putting a central define (as we talked about before) in a scripts module | ||
| [2009/06/29 09:26:57] <FiXion> and then let the different modules define their scripts via this scripts module | ||
| [2009/06/29 09:27:22] <FiXion> or I could have a define in each module and then do it that way. | ||
| [2009/06/29 09:27:39] <FiXion> which would stop the dependency on a scripts module | ||
| [2009/06/29 09:32:47] <n3kl__> How do I install a package, not just ensure/check that one is installed? | ||
| [2009/06/29 09:33:51] <henk> n3kl__: what do you think 'ensure => installed' does? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 09:34:31] <n3kl__> It only seems to check that its installed, not actually install it if its missing. | ||
| [2009/06/29 09:35:09] <henk> it does. if it can. | ||
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| [2009/06/29 09:44:48] <n3kl__> Ahh, installed, not present | ||
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| [2009/06/29 09:45:28] <henk> :) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 09:56:45] <thegcat> is there a "pretty" way to get $somevar ||= "some_string" for a puppet variable? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:00:12] <fzzzt> morning | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:01:14] <fzzzt> ok, so, in one module i have a apache .conf distributed that sets up the SSL vhost. now i have a separate app (phpmyadmin) which has a .conf i want to somehow include within this vhost, what would be a good way to do that? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:03:34] <gepetto> ::trac:: Recipes/Resolv Conf edited by humitos @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/ResolvConf (by humitos@gmail.com) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:06:31] <joe-mac> fzzzt: inherit the apache class you could do | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:06:35] <joe-mac> then the variable would be in scope | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:07:22] <joe-mac> thegcat: what exactly do you want? like "if var exists var equals some string"? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:08:21] <fzzzt> hmm, so the phpmyadmin class would inherit apache...and the apache .conf would use the variable to generate it's template? | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:08:23] <thegcat> joe-mac: no, same as in ruby: $foo ||= "bar" is equivalent to $foo = $foo || "bar" | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:08:43] <fzzzt> that doesn't sound right | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:09:24] <thegcat> joe-mac: but i did it with $foo = $foo ? { "" => "bar", default => "${foo}", }, it just feels very clunky | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:09:34] <fzzzt> what i probably could do is have an include within the ssl .conf for a subdirectory and put the phpmyadmin .conf in that subdirectory | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:09:49] <joe-mac> fzzzt: this is how i do it: any webapp i have inherits the apache2 class, sets up a variable called $ssl_hostname or something like that, then the erb template is created in the webapp' | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:09:50] <joe-mac> s class | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:09:51] <fzzzt> kludgy | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:10:00] <fzzzt> hmm | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:10:34] <joe-mac> thegcat: there are proper if statements in newer versions of puppet | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:10:52] <joe-mac> let me see if i can guess the doc name right, wiki:LanguageReference | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:11:00] <joe-mac> then seardh for "conditionals" | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:12:06] <joe-mac> dam gepetto is slow these days... | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:13:25] <thegcat> joe-mac: writing it with an if/else rather than a selector doesn't make it seem less kludgy... | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:14:15] <joe-mac> yea now that i see what you're saying i actually do that in a couple places too | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:14:20] <joe-mac> no way around it afaik | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:35:45] <thegcat> it seems my rails gem is not where puppetmasterd is looking for it, the log tells me: "Rails is missing; cannot store configuration" | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:36:15] <thegcat> but rails is in gem list on the puppetmaster machine | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:37:05] <thegcat> anyone knows in which env variable I should point to rails? | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:40:51] <joe-mac> RUBYLIB i guess | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:45:16] <thegcat> well, pretty much everything else needing rails (passenger, apache, ...) seems to work fine, without the need to tweek RUBYLIB or whatever, so I'm a little stomped... | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:46:07] <joe-mac> did you install puppet from gems thegcat | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:46:19] <joe-mac> mixing gems and native OS packages usually doesn't work out too well... | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:46:39] <thegcat> nope, iirc everything comes from suse/yast/rpm | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:47:03] <joe-mac> if it comes from the package manager why is it in the gems list? | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:47:16] <joe-mac> that must be a suse or rh thing... | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:47:25] <thegcat> puppet is here /usr/lib64/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/ and rails is there /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.3.2/ | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:47:26] <joe-mac> on my systems gems are completely separate from dpkg | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:47:57] <thegcat> but I'll try tinkering around with the gem env setting | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:47:58] <thegcat> s | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:48:01] <joe-mac> yea, so you installed rails from gem? | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:48:10] <joe-mac> have you tried yum install rubygems or whatever it's called | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:49:41] <thegcat> should be a dep of all the other stuff getting installed as a gem | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:51:16] <joe-mac> thegcat: the point is, puppetmaster didn't come from a gem | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:51:26] <joe-mac> otherwise, it'd be in the gems folder | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:51:44] <joe-mac> therefore to me, it looks like you're mixing rpms with gems | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:51:54] <joe-mac> which in my experience causes the kind of trouble you're seeing | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:51:56] <thegcat> i understand that, but that shouldn't keep it from using rubygems | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:52:12] <thegcat> irb also tells me it's all there irb(main):001:0> require 'rubygems' | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:52:12] <thegcat> => true | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:52:13] <thegcat> irb(main):002:0> require 'active_record' | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:52:13] <thegcat> => true | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:52:25] <thegcat> (oh, sorry for the multiline) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 10:52:40] <joe-mac> it's ok i don't mind other people might but it only bothers me if you post a1000 line cfg file lol | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:53:03] <joe-mac> i'm not sure the puppetmaster code says require rubygem | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:53:11] <joe-mac> and if it does, it might not know where to look fro them | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:53:30] <thegcat> it does say require 'rubygems' | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:53:47] <thegcat> I c&p the lines from puppet/feature/rails.rb | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:54:55] <joe-mac> and if you do yum install rails, does it work? | ||
| [2009/06/29 10:55:26] <joe-mac> maybe settings RUBYLIB to include the gems folder would help | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:04:41] <glarizza> Hey All. I've defined an external node classifier (script is http://pastie.org/528040 ) in my puppet.conf ( http://pastie.org/528046 ) , and have moved the regular nodes.pp files. I've also commented out the import statement in my site.pp file. When I connect from a client, I'm getting the "Could not retrieve catalog: Could not find default node or by name with <hostname>" -- http://pastie.org/528034 If I run the external | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:04:41] <glarizza> node classifier with the hostname passed --> http://pastie.org/528043 the YAML data comes out fine. What can I do to debug this further? It looks like the script is passing everything correctly, but puppet seems to have a problem with it? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:06:28] <joe-mac> hey jamesturnbull you around? | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:06:41] <fzzzt> grrr i get these things all the time | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:07:00] <fzzzt> puppet creates files with "main" appended | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:07:29] <fzzzt> onramp.confmain, phpmyadmin.confmain, etc. i even saw one folder with about a thousand "main" after each other, like logsmainmainmainmainmainmainmain | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:11:47] <glarizza> fzzzt: Was that aimed at my question? Are you seeing anything where it's appending "main" to the filenames? | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:12:55] <fzzzt> just rambling | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:13:03] <fzzzt> no idea where it's getting main from | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:13:11] <glarizza> fzzzt: Gotcha | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:27:01] <thegcat> joe-mac: couldn't get it to work, I switched to the ML, if you still want to follow up on that one | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:27:41] <thegcat> and I'm off, nice evening everyone! | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:27:50] <joe-mac> fzzzt: what version you on? never heard of something like this. Do you use the word main at all anywhere in some definition of yours? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:28:40] <fzzzt> 0.25b1 | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:31:02] <fzzzt> A couple times, $domainname, localhost.localdomain in hosts, filebucket { main: server => puppet } and File { backup => main, } | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:31:33] <joe-mac> might want to file a bug if it's in the beat | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:31:34] <joe-mac> beta | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:31:47] <joe-mac> actually, irecommend it | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:31:58] <joe-mac> attach the manifest and show some output of the files | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:31:58] <fzzzt> maybe, unfortunately i dont know how it happened at all, or when :/ | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:32:23] <joe-mac> well, you've got files with .main attachged,. and they came from puppet | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:32:29] <joe-mac> that's a start to a bug report | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:32:31] <fzzzt> ooh i just got another one | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:41:31] <jbooth> Anyone have suggestions for how to handle massive numbers of identical machines in puppet, without using node default? Is this problem what external classifiers solve? | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:41:40] <tim|imac_> ok, this is a silly question, but does anyone know of an online tutorial that teaches ruby and rails in one go? | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:42:24] * tim|imac_ likes to spend some time with both of them, but rather in a condensed timeframe | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:45:59] <fzzzt> I have yet to see a good tutorial on rails, let alone with ruby mixed in heh | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:48:26] <zahna> so, in templates, what's a good way of being able to include a line if a conditional is true and include nothing (not even a newline) when a conditional is false? currently, i can always get a newline or never get a newline. | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:55:31] <joe-mac> jbooth: yea that's a job for external node classifier | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:55:56] <joe-mac> tim|imac_: there are tonso f them, also i would recommend the cheap safari subscription and get a book on it | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:56:35] <joe-mac> zahna: just an <% if whatever %>\nline\n<% end %> should do it | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:56:57] <joe-mac> tim|imac_: the safari subscription is afaic opricel;ess | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:57:24] <joe-mac> stuff like the cookbook series that show snippets of useful stuff you'll run into all the time, it's just so great to have that at your fingertips | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:57:32] <bgupta> anyone every seen a message like this: "Could not retrieve catalog: No matching value for selector param 'i386' at /etc/puppet/manifests/classes/rails.pp:437 on node host.domain.com" | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:58:48] <zahna> joe-mac: ooh, if \n is valid, then a variation of what you said would work great | ||
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| [2009/06/29 11:59:05] <joe-mac> zahna: no no \n is just my way of saying huit enter | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:59:22] <zahna> oh | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:59:23] <joe-mac> actually at the end you want <% end -%> | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:59:36] <joe-mac> that'll strip the newlinea t the end | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:59:53] <joe-mac> that's a puppet only kind of thing for some reason, straight erb doesn't let me do that, btu in puppet you'll be fine | ||
| [2009/06/29 11:59:57] <jbooth> joe-mac: Can I use the external along with the traditional one? | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:00:03] <zahna> i was kind of thinking about not using multiple lines | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:00:14] <joe-mac> jbooth: not sure man i have a small environment... i think it's one or the other unfortunately | ||
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| [2009/06/29 12:00:48] <zahna> it's for ifcfg files and they are really simple, but i kept getting newlines for absent lines or when using -%> i'd never get newlines | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:00:58] <jbooth> joe-mac: bother. I'd really like to be able to use a hybrid. Hm. | ||
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| [2009/06/29 12:01:15] <hacim> whats the sate of globbing in files now days? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 12:01:20] <joe-mac> jbooth: maybe you can, i just haven't gotten big enough to warrant using an external classifier | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:01:45] <hacim> if i want to ensure /var/lib/clamav exists mode 0755, but all the files underneath it to be 0644, can I do that with globbing now? | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:01:49] <joe-mac> zahna: erb ios somewhat tricky to work out wrt newlines, but i've gotten mine going the way i want them with some experiementation | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:01:58] <joe-mac> you can also run them through this erb command which shows you the output | ||
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| [2009/06/29 12:07:57] <jbooth> joe-mac: Well I'll see. I've got ~100 machines which would be very well served by the traditional one. I'm then looking at consolidating the compute cluster puppet server into it... and I don't want the default node to configure a cluster node but also don't want to list ~800 compute nodes individually. (Ugh!) Using default is really scary if someone flubbed a hostname on a machine out there though. | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:08:58] <joe-mac> the compute nodes are all exactly the same right? | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:09:11] <joe-mac> might want to have a puppetmaster just for those that has nothing but a default node | ||
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| [2009/06/29 12:10:54] <tim|imac_> joe-mac: yeah but which book in particular would fit my need? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 12:43:23] <shood> I would like to find a way to have a file resource allow wildcard matching, or find another means to the end of defining permissions/ownership information for a wildcard match. for example file { "/site/*" ... | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:43:33] <shood> any ideas? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 12:49:12] <glarizza> What is the safest way to create a password for a new user you create through puppet? I know you can "password => "xxx"" and define it, but is there a way to use a hash file or something more....safe? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 12:55:37] <agaffney> glarizza: I thought puppet only took hashes | ||
| [2009/06/29 12:56:31] <agaffney> glarizza: for user { foo: password => '' }, it only takes a hash, afaict | ||
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| [2009/06/29 13:00:14] <glarizza> agaffney: That's reassuring. I never tried to set it in plaintext, but had found some Google accounts of people doing just that. | ||
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| [2009/06/29 13:42:25] <hacim> shood: I'm wondering how I can do the same | ||
| [2009/06/29 13:42:42] <hacim> shood: you can use the recurse parameter | ||
| [2009/06/29 13:43:46] <hacim> but I dont know how to set the parent directory permissions differently from the contents of the directory | ||
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| [2009/06/29 13:45:42] <hacim> it seems like globbing was planned for 0.24.8: http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/48 | ||
| [2009/06/29 13:45:58] <hacim> but I'm not sure it was actually implemented | ||
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| [2009/06/29 13:46:20] <hacim> oh, my mistake, jamesturnbull set the affected_version to 0.24.8 | ||
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| [2009/06/29 14:38:00] <kenichi_> hello, does anyone have a good way to run "facter" on windows hosts remotely, without installing ruby on the host? | ||
| [2009/06/29 14:38:39] <agaffney> you want to run a ruby program without ruby? | ||
| [2009/06/29 14:38:51] <agaffney> and is facter even designed to be used on windows? | ||
| [2009/06/29 14:39:53] <justindossey> all you need is a ruby compiler for windows | ||
| [2009/06/29 14:39:55] <justindossey> :) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 14:42:37] <joe-mac> never heard of a ruby compiler, sounds interesting though | ||
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| [2009/06/29 14:46:04] <CaptianCupcake> i'm following the PuppetBestPractice which say to create a user module with virtual.pp and unixadmins.pp that does realizations.. how do I include this in my base node, include user::unixadmins doesn't work. do I also need to import the module in my nodes.pp? | ||
| [2009/06/29 14:46:47] <joe-mac> if you have tyour modules structure set up right, it should just work | ||
| [2009/06/29 14:46:55] <joe-mac> but then you need to realize the virt resources somewhere... | ||
| [2009/06/29 14:47:35] <CaptianCupcake> hmm, yeah. my unixadmins class realizes them and I do the include in my basenode | ||
| [2009/06/29 14:48:10] <CaptianCupcake> does the user module also need an init.pp and such? the docs weren't clear on that imho. | ||
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| [2009/06/29 15:13:20] <kenichi_> agaffney, justindossey: ha, thanks... no i've got a compiled ruby out on an accessible share, but using "winexe" on linux creates a windows process that doesn't like to access the network. | ||
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| [2009/06/29 15:25:07] <joe-mac> CaptianCupcake: all modules need an init.pp that imports the other stuff int he module | ||
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| [2009/06/29 15:30:09] <axisys> i have 300 hosts devided in groups and a list of users need to be in their respective host groups' passwd/shadow/sudoers file .. is there a recipe i can follow ? i dont want to use ldap due to lot of network issues between different group of hosts and ldap server.. it is easier to create a rule between the hosts and puppet's ruby webrick port 8140 | ||
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| [2009/06/29 15:32:35] <axisys> managing users/groups w/ template seems lot of work too as discussed on page 101 of Turnbull's pulling string with puppet | ||
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| [2009/06/29 16:07:35] <bpgoldsb> So if I want to override my 'postfix' class for certain host(s), is that when I need to look at using modules? Or is there a better way to do this? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 16:20:20] <CaptianCupcake> i'm using the subversion module listed on the trac modules page. I get "Could not find resource type svnserve " when I try to use the svnserve that the mode defines. do I need to include/import the define before I can use it? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 16:28:38] <CaptianCupcake> nvm, figured it out | ||
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| [2009/06/29 16:44:02] <PhatBaja> Can anyone point me to a good example/tutorial for creating users on a puppet client? | ||
| [2009/06/29 16:49:29] <joe-mac> PhatBaja: wiki:TypeReference | ||
| [2009/06/29 16:49:56] <gepetto> joe-mac: PhatBaja: wiki:TypeReference is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference | ||
| [2009/06/29 16:49:56] <joe-mac> go to #user on that page | ||
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| [2009/06/29 17:09:01] <thatch_> is anyone out there making a set of cobbler types for puppet? | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:09:21] <thatch_> https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:10:13] <thatch_> I am starting on some and just thought it would be nice to know if anyone else is already doing it, I have not been able to find any evidence of it | ||
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| [2009/06/29 17:12:17] <PhatBaja> Thanks | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:12:28] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: am now | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:12:38] <joe-mac> i forgot what i was gonna ask you | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:12:58] <joe-mac> shit.... lol it was something kinda important to me too | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:13:03] <joe-mac> i hate my memory | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:13:23] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: was it "Are you as handsome and charming in person as you are on th Internet?" | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:13:32] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: is so it's a definitive yes | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:13:53] <jbk> haha | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:14:08] <thatch_> I guess not | ||
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| [2009/06/29 17:14:42] <jamesturnbull> thatch_: no cobbler types that I know of | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:14:53] <jamesturnbull> thatch_: I know there are a couple of cobler modules | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:15:10] <jamesturnbull> thatch_: if you need help with it the -dev list is the best place | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:15:25] <joe-mac> lol, jamesturnbull thanks for letting me on thta piece of info but i think it may have been something else | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:15:29] <joe-mac> i'll ping ya if i remember, thanks | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:15:35] <thatch_> thaks! | ||
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| [2009/06/29 17:17:16] <thatch_> sorry, con died, this -dev, I see a mailing list, is there irc? | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:17:40] <jamesturnbull> thatch_: mailing list | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:17:49] <thatch_> thanks! | ||
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| [2009/06/29 17:43:27] <bpgoldsb> So if I want to override my 'postfix' class for certain host(s), is that when I need to look at using modules? Or is there a better way to do this? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 17:55:53] <joe-mac> depends, what do you want to override bpgoldsb? | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:56:14] <bpgoldsb> Well, pretty much the whole file structure | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:56:23] <bpgoldsb> my standard systems will use a templated main.cf | ||
| [2009/06/29 17:56:33] <bpgoldsb> a few systems will have much more rubust configurations | ||
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| [2009/06/29 18:14:58] <WALoeIII> how can I notify a service that may or may not be running without an error | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:15:01] <WALoeIII> I have a puppet module | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:15:03] <WALoeIII> and a puppetmaster module | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:15:11] <WALoeIII> both modules 'share' puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:15:17] <WALoeIII> should I split out that file into a shared module? | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:15:35] <WALoeIII> I want to notify puppetmaster and puppet to restart if puppet.conf changes | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:15:54] <ctso> you can use subscribe instead of notify | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:16:39] <ctso> puppet/puppetmaster subscribe to puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:17:31] <WALoeIII> ctso: thanks I forgot about the inverse | ||
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| [2009/06/29 18:48:26] <CaptianCupcake> if I have a service subscribed to a conf file, do I also need to specify require => File["conf file"] on the service to make sure the conf file exists and is in place before the service tries to start? | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:49:05] <CaptianCupcake> or does the fact that the service is subscribed to the conf file imply that the file will exist before the service tries to start? | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:49:38] <ctso1> im not 100% sure about this, but i think subscribe will imply that it happens only after puppet tries to apply the file resource | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:49:45] <ctso1> however, without a require | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:49:55] <ctso1> it will still try to apply the requiring source even if the file resource fails | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:50:11] <ctso1> whereas a require would make the requiring resource not run at all (if the file resource fails) | ||
| [2009/06/29 18:50:24] <CaptianCupcake> ahhh, ty. that would make sense | ||
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| [2009/06/29 19:31:36] <CaptianCupcake> i have a define that does an exec.. I'd like to optionally pass in resources to the define that will be notified if the exec executes. is there a way to do this? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 19:39:08] <jrojas> in the define you would have another variable | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:39:19] <jrojas> that would contain an array of other things to notify, | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:39:35] <jrojas> then in the exec under the define: notify => $array | ||
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| [2009/06/29 19:42:08] <CaptianCupcake> agg gotchya, thank you! one more Q. I have an exec that has a notify. the exec *always* notifies even if the onlyif condition is not met. is this by design? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 19:45:18] <jrojas> hmm | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:45:28] <jrojas> i would test the logic in your onlyif | ||
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| [2009/06/29 19:46:54] <CaptianCupcake> hmm, yeah, if I execute the onlyif it returns 1. since it's not 0 it shouldn't execute, right? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 19:50:21] <jrojas> the exec always notifies, but does the exec well um exec? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 19:51:43] <CaptianCupcake> eheh, no, if the return is not 0 it will not execute the command. but it'll still notify | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:52:01] <jrojas> hmm | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:52:12] <jrojas> i remember seeing something about this recently | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:53:07] <CaptianCupcake> oh really? I've been bashing my head with this for over an hour and can't figure out what the deal is or if it's just by design | ||
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| [2009/06/29 19:54:23] <jrojas> interesting. | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:54:29] <jrojas> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#exec | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:54:34] <jrojas> there is no mention of notify | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:55:12] <jrojas> you want the exec to notify a service right? | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:55:34] <jrojas> err... sorry im getting 4 different conversations mixed right now, | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:55:51] <jrojas> yes the notify will run each time | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:57:08] <CaptianCupcake> eheh no worries =) doh, ok, will have to rewrite things a bit since that's the case. is that by design? | ||
| [2009/06/29 19:58:59] <jrojas> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#id260 | ||
| [2009/06/29 20:00:47] <CaptianCupcake> erm wait, that ones a type. I was meaning the metaparameters http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#id343 | ||
| [2009/06/29 20:02:41] <jrojas> it might be an issue with using notify and exec. it seems like the exec + onlyif may be causing the notify to happen then. | ||
| [2009/06/29 20:02:57] <jrojas> what happens when you have the service subscribe to the exec, and remove the notify? | ||
| [2009/06/29 20:10:53] <CaptianCupcake> oh man, this is so embarrassing... I left off refreshonly on the exec | ||
| [2009/06/29 20:10:55] <CaptianCupcake> lol | ||
| [2009/06/29 20:11:21] <CaptianCupcake> thanks for the troubleshooting help jrojas =) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 20:54:27] <Djelibeybi> Does anyone know what RPM provides rst2latex required by puppetdoc's --type pdf output? | ||
| [2009/06/29 20:56:16] <Djelibeybi> Nevermind, found it. :) python-docutils for those playing along at home. | ||
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| [2009/06/29 22:04:37] <joe-mac1> i remember what i was gonna ask you jamesturnbull | ||
| [2009/06/29 22:04:42] <joe-mac1> it was about puppet recruiter | ||
| [2009/06/29 22:05:34] <joe-mac1> youre probvably out cold by now lol | ||
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| [2009/06/29 22:27:23] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac1: he was around earlier. | ||
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| [2009/06/29 22:34:26] <Djelibeybi> Anyone know where puppetdoc puts the pdf it creates in --mode pdf? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 22:43:08] <ctso1> hhmm.. when you set something for a type of resource e.g. "File{ owner => "root" }", where does it apply-scope-wise? | ||
| [2009/06/29 22:43:08] <ctso1> e.g. i have class A that includes class B and has the above File line, can i expect that to apply to all file resources in A, in B, in subclasses of A (or things that include A?) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 22:51:24] <hacim> is there a separate facter mailing list? | ||
| [2009/06/29 22:52:43] <joe-mac3> not that i know of | ||
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| [2009/06/29 22:58:50] <hacim> yeah, i couldn't find one either | ||
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| [2009/06/29 23:00:53] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: am here | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:01:18] <jamesturnbull> hacim: nope - the -user and -dev list | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:01:59] <joe-mac1> jamesturnbull: before i get kicked again, what is up with puppet recruiter | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:02:04] <joe-mac1> is that just an idea or an actual program? | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:02:09] <joe-mac1> my ISP sucks shit, so bad | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:02:32] <hacim> jamesturnbull: cool, thanks for clarifying... working on getting 1.5.6 into debian now | ||
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| [2009/06/29 23:05:04] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: it's intended to be actual program - best person to ask is lak | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:05:08] <jamesturnbull> hacim: cool! | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:05:15] <joe-mac1> o it's not alive yet? | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:07:20] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: you'd have to ask lak | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:07:26] <joe-mac1> o i c | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:07:29] <joe-mac1> thanks | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:07:30] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: it's a reductivelabs project | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:07:36] <joe-mac1> yea | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:07:37] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: I don't work there :) | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:08:06] <joe-mac1> lol you fake it pretty well | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:09:00] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: really? oh. | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:09:19] <joe-mac1> lol... nah i was kidding i know you work over in AU, but you contribute a lot | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:09:33] <hacim> jamesturnbull: do you know if facter works with ruby1.9? | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:09:47] <jamesturnbull> hacim: should do | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:09:58] <jamesturnbull> hacim: we did a bunch of chnages to make it 1.9 compliant | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:10:03] <jamesturnbull> hacim: puppet is not yet so | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:10:37] <hacim> ok, I'll try it facter out with it and report any bugs | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:17:03] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: do I use the main Puppet redmine to log puppetdoc bugs? | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:17:11] @ Quit: joe-mac3: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:17:21] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: it's all my copious spare time - I'd turn to drink if I didn't fill it up | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:17:24] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: yes | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:17:30] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: groovy, ta. | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:17:46] <joe-mac1> i think you're secretly a robot jamesturnbull | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:17:46] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: have you checked that current bugs to see if yours are addressed - there are a bunch of fixes about to go itnto 0.25.b3 | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:18:36] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: nah I am not even artifically intelligent :) | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:18:57] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: will check first | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:19:20] <joe-mac1> haha | ||
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| [2009/06/29 23:26:52] <ctso1> if one has multiple modules requiring the same package (e.g. g++), how do i ensure they don't complain about each other trying to install it? a virtual resource? but where would i put that virtual resource? | ||
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| [2009/06/29 23:28:39] <Djelibeybi> ctso1: you can have them all require the same package. | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:28:51] <Djelibeybi> ctso1: Puppet will just ensure that the package is installed before the module(s) | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:31:23] <ctso1> Djelibeybi: hmm, but where might you actually define the package? | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:31:44] <Djelibeybi> ctso1: I have a packages module to collect globally-required packages | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:31:53] <ctso1> ah, okay | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:31:58] <ctso1> yeah, man, it's really hard | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:32:06] <ctso1> to write modules that someone else could actually pick up | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:32:17] * Djelibeybi doesn't worry about that. :) | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:32:32] <Djelibeybi> My modules are to make my life/my project's life easier. Not anyone else's. | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:32:52] <ctso1> haha... fair | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:32:53] <ctso1> =) | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:33:40] <jamesturnbull> ctso1: I just put it somewhere logical - usually in one of the modules | ||
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| [2009/06/29 23:36:54] <Djelibeybi> Grr. | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:36:58] <Djelibeybi> Redmine messed up my formatting | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:37:21] <ctso1> haha | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:37:22] <ctso1> dammit | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:37:33] <ctso1> i give up, im just going to keep this monolithic | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:37:45] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: can you edit redmine issue descriptions? | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:38:04] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: yes | ||
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| [2009/06/29 23:38:44] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: can you change the WW.XX.YY.ZZ and 11.22.33.44 to have + before and after? | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:38:53] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: ok | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:38:54] <Djelibeybi> like +typewriter+ in the subject | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:39:13] <Djelibeybi> Actually, same with typewriter in the description. :) | ||
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| [2009/06/29 23:41:00] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: they already do have + either side of them | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:41:23] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: yeah, but redmine changes that to an underline | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:41:36] <jamesturnbull> dixond: oh you're asking me to escape them | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:41:59] <jamesturnbull> dixond: ah sorry | ||
| [2009/06/29 23:42:14] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: yes, sorry. Thanks! | ||
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