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| [2009/06/26 00:09:35] <gstratton> I'm still fighting with this error; any hints? | ||
| [2009/06/26 00:09:36] <gstratton> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Puppet::Parser::Compiler failed with error NameError: uninitialized constant Puppet::Rails::Host on node impulse.mocomedia.net | ||
| [2009/06/26 00:10:19] <gstratton> Other clients can connect okay. | ||
| [2009/06/26 00:12:05] <joe-mac> jamesturnbull: what exactly would someone have a hudson slave for? | ||
| [2009/06/26 00:12:12] <joe-mac> just as an OS to test puppet on that RL doesn't currently have? | ||
| [2009/06/26 00:12:53] <joe-mac> i do like how there are no music things or anything | ||
| [2009/06/26 00:13:04] <joe-mac> myspace seems like more geared towards advertising | ||
| [2009/06/26 00:13:12] <joe-mac> wrong # | ||
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| [2009/06/26 03:46:16] <hMz> how do i handle updates to pluginsync items? | ||
| [2009/06/26 03:48:51] <Volcane> update them on the master and they go out? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 03:49:52] <ctso> uh. have pluginsync on XD | ||
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| [2009/06/26 04:06:23] <blahdeblah> Hi. How can i work out why puppet will not distribute a file as i expect? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 04:09:36] <tim|macbook> blahdeblah: try using --debug | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:09:37] <phellarv> blahdeblah: debug? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:09:41] <phellarv> \o/ | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:09:45] <tim|macbook> :) | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:09:47] <blahdeblah> OK | ||
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| [2009/06/26 04:10:12] <blahdeblah> whoa! That's a lot of output | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:10:22] <blahdeblah> I was already using verbose and i thought that was as much as there was... | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:10:45] <blahdeblah> Hmmm... No mention of my module | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:10:52] <blahdeblah> I must be missing something important | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:10:55] <hMz> Volcane: i have to restart the puppetd for them to do their thing | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:10:55] <phellarv> blahdeblah: Well - you wanted to find out why. | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:11:04] * blahdeblah goes back to check the node definitions | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:11:16] <Volcane> hMz: nods, depends on the type of plugin but that sounds about right yeah | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:11:29] <hMz> so how do i handle those restarts? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 04:11:54] <Volcane> its a provider that you're putting out? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:13:15] <Volcane> not sure, doubt u can subscribe to it or anything, I've only really put facts out with pluginsync | ||
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| [2009/06/26 04:17:00] <blahdeblah> Is puppet supposed to implicitly import everything in the modules directory? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:17:17] <Volcane> it auto import, but import is not the same as include | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:17:24] <Volcane> if u want it to happen on your machine u must include it | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:17:33] <blahdeblah> Volcane: I'm doing include, but it's not imported, AFAICT | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:17:44] <blahdeblah> there's absolutely no mention of the class in the debug output | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:17:57] <Volcane> if you include it and it cant find it you'd get an error | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:18:13] <Volcane> that would be what you'd see if the import didnt happen | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:18:31] <blahdeblah> Is there a way to debug the import on the server side? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:18:42] <blahdeblah> Or look at the catalog compile process for a given node? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:18:54] <Volcane> on the node look at localconfig.yaml | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:21:58] <blahdeblah> What is the default modulepath for puppetmasterd? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 04:22:56] <Volcane> puppetmasterd --genconfig|grep modulepath | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:23:29] <blahdeblah> Thanks Volcane | ||
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| [2009/06/26 04:24:14] <blahdeblah> OK - so i'm getting more lost as i go along here. My modulepath is as i expected: /etc/puppet/modules:/usr/share/puppet/modules | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:24:23] <blahdeblah> All of my modules are in /etc/puppet/modules | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:24:31] <blahdeblah> Do i need to import them anyway? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:24:45] <Volcane> like i said, if you're doing 'include foo' and you dont get an error saying it cant find foo, then its not an import problem | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:25:14] <blahdeblah> I'm not getting any errors | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:25:21] <blahdeblah> (That i can tell) | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:26:15] <blahdeblah> According to http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation everything in modulepath should be automatically imported | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:26:35] <blahdeblah> Yet when i run my config on the node, i get "info: No classes to store" | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:26:47] <blahdeblah> No errors about my includes, just that message | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:27:22] <blahdeblah> Ignore me | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:27:26] <blahdeblah> I'm being thick | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:27:32] <blahdeblah> It's the end of a long week :-\ | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:28:33] <blahdeblah> (I had commented out my nodes file import as well as my modules file import) | ||
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| [2009/06/26 04:43:48] <blahdeblah> I think i've fixed the results of my own stupidity - so time for a sensible question: is there a way to trigger the aptitude provider to run an update? One of my recipes installs a new repository definition. | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:44:48] <Volcane> you'd need to use an exec | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:46:20] <ctso> Volcane: if a subscribes to b, would that guarantee that the a resource is evaluated after b? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:46:47] <blahdeblah> Is there a sensible way to tie that exec into a notify? i.e. so i can just "include aptitude::update" and then have my packages notify the aptitude updater to do its thing? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:46:57] <Volcane> ctso: probably, would seem sensible | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:47:22] <Volcane> blahdeblah: execs have an option that lets them only run the command if they got notified, not in normal runs | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:47:43] <ctso> would that be the refreshonly? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:48:00] <blahdeblah> looks like it | ||
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| [2009/06/26 04:55:27] <blahdeblah> Just when i think i've got my head around one thing... | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:55:35] <blahdeblah> How can i find out which package provider my system is using? | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:59:43] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet Red Hat Centos edited by paulgear @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetRedHatCentos (by puppet@gear.dyndns.org) | ||
| [2009/06/26 04:59:57] <kolla> blahdeblah: look in /etc/apt/sources.list* | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:00:00] <Djelibeybi> blahdeblah: it's usually distro specific. What distro are you using? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 05:00:28] <blahdeblah> Djelibeybi: Debian lenny | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:00:29] <blahdeblah> But Debian can have apt-get or aptitude | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:00:35] <Djelibeybi> blahdeblah: they your package provider is probably apt-get | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:00:56] <blahdeblah> But i don't want to know "probably"... :-) | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:01:25] <Djelibeybi> blahdeblah: well, it can be either. apt-get is almost always installed on debian. not so sure about aptitude | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:01:50] <Djelibeybi> blahdeblah: I'm a Red Hat/CentOS person, so I'm just trying to help. :) | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:02:17] <blahdeblah> I don't want to know what's installed - i already know that since i configured the box. I want to know how puppet decides on its provider, and where i can see the results of that... | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:03:59] <tim|macbook> just out of curiousity, does the puppetmaster do caching of compiled catalogs? or does it recompile every time? | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:04:15] <Djelibeybi> tim|macbook: it recompiles, as the Facter facts could have changed in the interim. | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:04:35] <tim|macbook> it cannot check if they have changed? | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:05:23] <Djelibeybi> tim|macbook: Dunno, I'm not a Puppet developer. :) | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:06:42] <blahdeblah> In /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/puppet/provider/package/apt.rb, i find this: "defaultfor :operatingsystem => :debian" - presumably that means apt-get is the default provider? | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:07:48] <Djelibeybi> blahdeblah: seems like a reasonable assumption. | ||
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| [2009/06/26 05:13:43] <blahdeblah> Is there a recipe that provides an equivalent to the yumrepo type for apt-get/aptitude? | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:15:23] <tim|macbook> blahdeblah: we have it in our repo | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:15:29] <tim|macbook> you might want to take a look at that | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:15:37] <blahdeblah> what is "our repo"? | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:15:38] <tim|macbook> http://puppet.kumina.nl | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:15:41] <blahdeblah> thanks | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:15:57] <tim|macbook> http://puppet.kumina.nl/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=generic;a=tree;f=/apt | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:16:02] <tim|macbook> !seen davids | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:16:03] <gepetto> tim|macbook: DavidS was last seen 11 days, 2 hours, 10 minutes and 2 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:16:49] <blahdeblah> tim|macbook: Are you the source of this? http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/Apt_Repositories | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:17:17] <tim|macbook> doubt it :) | ||
| [2009/06/26 05:17:32] * tim|macbook not very active on the wiki *shame* | ||
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| [2009/06/26 06:22:07] <abien> Lets say i have a module, 'centos_base' which kinda bootstraps a system to a certain standard. Packages, timezones, yum repos & prios, snmp config, stuff like that. | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:22:13] <abien> Now, i would like to make sure that if a node has this module, it should always be executed prior to all other modules or definitions. | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:22:15] <abien> This is (among other things) because in 'centos_base' i set yum-priorities. If these are not set correctly the package installations of other modules might install the wrong version from the wrong repository. Whats a smart way to do this, without adding require statements to all "package {}" calls among all modules? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 06:30:15] <ch> Package { require => blah } should work | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:32:46] <lstep> Hello, I've got a simple question (I think). I'd like to loop over an array of strings and pass each element as a variable to template(). I thought I needed to use ${name} but it doesn't work. | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:33:06] <Djelibeybi> lstep: pass the entire array to the template and loop inside the template instead | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:33:15] <lstep> this doesn't work: | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:33:18] <lstep> enabledsites = ['site1', 'site2', 'site3'] | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:33:18] <lstep> apache2::site { | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:33:18] <lstep> $enabledsites: ensure => 'present', content => template("apache2/${name}.erb"); | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:33:18] <lstep> } | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:33:22] <lstep> why? | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:33:38] <Djelibeybi> No, that wouldn't. | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:34:15] <Djelibeybi> You could do that with a define, though | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:35:04] <lstep> Djelibeybi: how? | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:36:27] <Djelibeybi> lstep: one sec | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:37:17] <Djelibeybi> Hmm, there are things missing there | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:37:27] <Djelibeybi> Is apache2::site already a define? | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:37:30] <Djelibeybi> pastie the entire class | ||
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| [2009/06/26 06:38:48] <lstep> It's the one I found in a link on Puppet's webiste recipes: http://wesabe.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/puppet/modules/apache2/trunk/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:39:14] <lstep> apache2::site seems to be a define, yes | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:41:30] <Djelibeybi> Sorry, I don't have time right now to go through that -- I'm in the middle of a production SAN migration. :) | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:41:43] <lstep> Djelibeybi: ok, no problem | ||
| [2009/06/26 06:41:56] <lstep> Djelibeybi: thanks anyway | ||
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| [2009/06/26 07:10:00] <blahdeblah1> tim|macbook: There doesn't seem to be any copyright or license on most of the files in your generic repository - is there an overall statement about it somewhere? | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:13:44] <tim|macbook> no, not really, still need to do that... you can consider the generic/powerdns/manifest/init.pp statement the default license... I'll add them in a separate file one of these days | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:17:19] <blahdeblah1> tim|macbook: OK - thanks | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:17:31] <blahdeblah1> A short README at the top might be a good idea. :-) | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:18:01] <tim|macbook> yeah, i know | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:18:12] <tim|macbook> the repo was setup in a hurry, i think ;-) | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:19:27] <blahdeblah1> Well, i like your style in the apt-get stuff - makes good sense | ||
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| [2009/06/26 07:20:32] <Volcane> where's this repo? | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:20:47] <tim|macbook> Volcane: http://puppet.kumina.nl | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:20:59] <Volcane> great thnx | ||
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| [2009/06/26 07:49:51] <thegcat> what would be the best practice to serve multiple clients (as in organisations, not computers)? | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:50:18] <Volcane> do they all want to commit manifests? | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:50:28] <thegcat> ie I want the servers from one client to not have access to the configuration of other servers | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:50:57] <thegcat> ok, example time :-) | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:51:18] <thegcat> 3 machines in the network of client A, 4 machines in network of client B | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:51:55] <thegcat> they all basically have the same configuration, and the modules are written so that they are agnostic, ie parametrisable enough to work for both clients | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:52:30] <thegcat> would be having different environments with the same modules but different base manifests a good idea? | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:52:50] <Volcane> it would help but that would make it a pain to keep them up to date | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:53:13] <Volcane> if u really seriously need hardcore seperation, make a fileserver mount clienta and clientb and only allow their boxes into it using the fileserver | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:53:17] <Volcane> and serve up the files from there | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:53:33] <thegcat> or just do a class client_A { some_config = A \ include module } and class client_B { some_config =B \ include module } and include the correct class at the node level? | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:53:47] <Volcane> if u just want to be sure there's no accidents, use file search paths that makes sense based on environment, or fqdn or somet arb variable you define | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:54:37] <Volcane> i define my mobiledirs like path/to/environment/modules:path/to/common/modules | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:54:54] <Volcane> so if i really needed something per environment, or some special logic etc, i can put them in that environment only and others cant get it | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:55:09] <thegcat> no, the modules aren't the problem, they are the same for all | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:55:16] <Volcane> but ofcourse environment gets set by the client, so this wont really be totally secure, they can just do puppetd --test --environment=foo | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:55:47] <Volcane> not sure what level of seperation u want, just, send the right apache config or something more? | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:55:48] <thegcat> I just want some variables to have different value depending on what client the machine belongs to | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:55:58] <Volcane> thegcat: use a fact | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:56:05] <Volcane> or just add it in the node | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:56:19] <Volcane> like your example above | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:56:23] <thegcat> Volcane: ok | ||
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| [2009/06/26 07:56:50] <thegcat> IIRC, puppet can't do node *.some-domain.net? | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:57:09] <Volcane> in node? nope | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:57:34] <Volcane> you could though: include ("common::${domain}") | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:58:12] <thegcat> sad, but anyway, there aren't more than 3 or 4 / client and only a litthe more than half a dozen clients | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:58:23] <thegcat> yeah, that would work too | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:58:32] <thegcat> I'll try it out, thanks :-) | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:58:39] <masterzen> thegcat: soon you'll be able to use a regexp for nodes :-) | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:58:47] <Volcane> i have many clients talking to my master | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:59:04] <Volcane> one case we have many internal teams committing to the same master too, real pita | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:59:29] <thegcat> Volcane: no, I meant that it wouldn't be to big a pita to make a node definition for each node | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:59:36] <Volcane> nods | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:59:44] <thegcat> because there aren't that many of them | ||
| [2009/06/26 07:59:44] <Volcane> you could use external nodes | ||
| [2009/06/26 08:02:13] <thegcat> Volcane: wouldn't really be worth it for so few machines | ||
| [2009/06/26 08:02:47] <Volcane> yeah i also just make node files atm, really wish i had time/inclination to finish my classfier | ||
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| [2009/06/26 08:17:08] <FiXion> I have my own apt key - which I install using the define from the wiki: apt::key { "AE7785F3": | ||
| [2009/06/26 08:17:24] <FiXion> can I somehow make a package require this key ? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 08:17:39] <FiXion> require => apt::key["AE7785F3"] or something | ||
| [2009/06/26 08:18:08] <FiXion> first install of hosts fails - and I have to run puppet again - so that it can install the packages, now the key is in place :( | ||
| [2009/06/26 08:18:15] <FiXion> first run that is :) | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:04:36] <thegcat> FiXion: should read Apt::Key["..."] *methinks* | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:04:55] <thegcat> I meant require => Apt::Key | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:08:13] <Volcane> yup, Apt::Key is the correct capitalization | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:08:52] <FiXion> thegcat: I'll try that. Thanks | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:14:05] <FiXion> perfect - no complains from puppet :) | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:17:40] <thegcat> FiXion: it's because you want to require => an instance of a type, thus the first-capital capitalization | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:37:36] <zahna> do any of you guys use puppet to manage network config files like /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 or is that just being too uptight? | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:38:03] <Volcane> easy with templates | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:38:30] <zahna> with templates? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:38:42] <Volcane> yes, templates | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:39:06] <zahna> but how do you map the IP addresses? | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:39:17] <zahna> maybe i should re-read up on templates | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:39:19] <Volcane> $ipaddress = x.x.x.x | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:39:32] <Volcane> file{"/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0": content => template("ifcfg.erb")} | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:40:53] <zahna> ah, i hadn't thought of defining my own variables | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:41:47] <Volcane> you probably do a define | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:41:58] <zahna> up until now, i've only been using facter variables | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:42:35] <Volcane> netint{"eth0": ipaddress => "1.2.3.4", netmask => "255.255.255.0", broadcast => "1.2.3.255" } | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:42:47] <Volcane> and then in the define you can just use the variables passed in | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:42:59] <zahna> yeah, that's what i'll do | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:43:15] <zahna> because i need a lot of interface definitions | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:43:49] <zahna> would you happen to have an existing define for me to modify? | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:44:06] <Volcane> nah, i never mess with my interfaces, worst i do to them is make bonds | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:44:13] <Volcane> which is a bit different | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:44:35] <zahna> i'm not even doing that. i'm just defining lots of loopbacks for load balancing | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:44:39] <Volcane> and a right pita cos you cant figure out hte MACs easily once bonded | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:48:27] <zahna> ah | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:50:16] <jamesturnbull> zahna: talk to Avi - djelibeli | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:50:34] <jamesturnbull> zahna: he has boxes with 6-8 interfaces and configures all of them with Puppet | ||
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| [2009/06/26 09:50:58] <jamesturnbull> zahna: sorry Djelibeybi | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:51:06] <zahna> ah, where is he? | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:51:15] <jamesturnbull> zahna: well I suspect right now - asleep | ||
| [2009/06/26 09:52:15] <zahna> ah, so he's not in North America then, eh? :) | ||
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| [2009/06/26 10:01:57] <jamesturnbull> zahna: Australia | ||
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| [2009/06/26 10:07:51] <zahna> yeah :) | ||
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| [2009/06/26 10:11:36] <pvh_sa|wrk> hi... i would like puppet to manage our automounts - i've found an autofs module that seems kinda right, but i also want it to manage the symlinks - so like /datastore1 -> /net/fs1/datastore1 - can it do that? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 10:22:57] <jamesturnbull> pvh_sa|wrk: yep | ||
| [2009/06/26 10:24:54] <zahna> pvh_sa|wrk: in the File resource, setting ensure => "/path/to/link" will make a symlink | ||
| [2009/06/26 10:25:21] <zahna> at least, that's what i think i read about it yesterday | ||
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| [2009/06/26 10:27:10] <pvh_sa|wrk> thanks zahna, that's exactly what i'm looking for. so i can make my base autofs class and then derived classes for the filesystems i want to mount that way. yay! | ||
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| [2009/06/26 10:30:23] <zahna> yeah, puppet is cool like that | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:22:39] <apbarrett> Do module names, class names, or package names need to be lowercase? I get "Could not find class pkg_SUNWfoo", but when I rename the module and class from "pkg_SUNWfoo" to "pkg_sunwfoo" it seems to work. | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:23:22] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:24:32] <apbarrett> where is this documented? I didn't see it in the language reference on the wiki. | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:25:55] <Volcane> not sure, def not in the language tut | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:26:45] <Volcane> but it doesnt work thats for sure :) | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:27:00] <apbarrett> oh well, I don't think I have packages whose names differ only in capitalisation, so I can deal with it easily enough. | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:27:28] <Volcane> try | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:27:33] <Volcane> class "foo_Foo" { } | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:27:38] <Volcane> include "foo_Foo" | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:27:38] <Volcane> works | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:28:04] <Volcane> however class "Foo" { ... } doesnt, I'd just lc everything and stay sane | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:28:27] <ckdake> I'm trying to figure out a way to build nginx config files that include the ip addresses of all servers that include a certain class. It seems like exported resources are one way to do this, but I'm stuck because I can't figure out how to get multiple exported resources into one file. Any suggestions for a better way or how to work with exported resources this way? | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:29:21] <Volcane> ckdake: yeah its not exactly exported resources forte that, u could perhaps do something that builds snippets and then concat the snippets into the eventual nginx file - the nodes would then export the snippets | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:29:25] <Volcane> but that sounds pretty grim really | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:30:15] <ckdake> that it does | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:30:26] <ckdake> hmm | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:34:32] <apbarrett> volcane: tried quotes around the mixed-case name in both the class definition and the include; doesn't work. Basically the same as your "foo_Foo" example, except the class definition is inside modules/foo_Foo/manifests/init.pp. I'll just lowercase everything. | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:35:21] <Volcane> apbarrett: yeah, sounds safest | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:45:28] <flakrat> can anyone suggest a good way to manage rpm GPG keys on the clients? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:46:14] <flakrat> for example, I have a key I use to sign my own packages, how would I use puppet to ensure that all clients have that key imported into RPM | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:46:40] <joe-mac> with an file resource and an exec | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:46:48] <Volcane> probably some crappy file+exec combo | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:46:57] <joe-mac> yep, that's how i do it with my apt key | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:47:42] <flakrat> Ok, then I'm part way there, I have the file getting synced to /etc/pki/rpm-gpg, now I just need to do the rpm --import | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:48:07] <joe-mac> yea, so the exec that does the rpm --import has refreshonly => "true" and you notify it from the file resource | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:48:12] <Volcane> flakrat: do an exec thats in refreshonly and notify it from the file | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:48:12] <joe-mac> so whenever you push a new key, it gets imported | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:48:21] <Volcane> yeah what joe-mac says | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:48:29] <flakrat> cool, thanks fellas | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:54:22] <bpgoldsb> Are the built-in variables, like $name, listed anywhere? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:56:07] @ Quit: MattyM: "ta ta" | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:57:08] <apbarrett> I don't know if there are any truly built in variables, but everything in the output from "facter" behaves sort of like a built in variable | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:57:24] <flakrat> so, in this scenario, say I have many keys that I'm managing, can exec use a variable like: 'exec { "rpm --import $file": ' where $file is the key file and path? | ||
| [2009/06/26 11:58:06] <flakrat> or do I need a separate exec for each key? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 11:59:05] <apbarrett> i'd probably use a "define" that generates both a file resource and an exec resource for each key | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:00:38] <flakrat> yeah that looks like a better approach | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:12:12] <Volcane> flakrat: yeah in that case you can pass it an array like rpm::key{["one", "two", "three"]: ensure => present} for exmaple | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:12:30] <flakrat> cool | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:15:38] <joe-mac> bgupta: wiki:TypeReference | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:16:10] <gepetto> joe-mac: bgupta: wiki:TypeReference is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:21:23] <flakrat> the ever prompt gepetto at your service :-) | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:22:06] <apbarrett> err: Could not call puppetmaster.getconfig: #<#<Class:0x....>: execution expired> | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:22:14] <apbarrett> does that mean "you have too many modules"? | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:22:42] <Volcane> ynot unless you have 100s :) | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:23:36] <apbarrett> about 625 modules, most of which contain one small class which in turn contains one package | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:23:44] <Volcane> wow | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:23:49] <Volcane> yeah thats probably not great | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:23:59] <Volcane> you're trying to manage ever known package? | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:24:03] <apbarrett> yes | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:24:10] <Volcane> why in diff classes? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:25:10] <apbarrett> because package {foo: require Package[bar]} doesn't seem to work properly, whereas class pkg_foo{ include pkg_bar } works | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:26:05] <Volcane> hmm, you should check out virtual resources | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:26:10] <joe-mac1> HOLY CRAP | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:26:14] <joe-mac1> 625 modules rofl | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:26:18] <Volcane> that many classes will totally screw things up :) | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:26:23] <Volcane> memory, performance etc | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:26:44] <Volcane> i guess sun packages has no sane concept of dependencies so you want to model that? | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:28:32] <plathrop> Also, there aren't any known problems with the require statement... that's definitely the correct way | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:28:53] <Volcane> plathrop: i suspect he wants the require to also include.. | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:29:27] <plathrop> Volcane: ah, yes. | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:29:30] <plathrop> probably | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:29:48] <apbarrett> yes, I am putting dependency info in classes. virtual resources dont' seem to support dependencies sanely (@some_virtualresource{ require => [another_virtual_resource]" should imply "realize [another_virtual_resource]", btu it doesn't, so I figured out a workaround involving classes. now I hit some sort of memory limit. | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:30:19] <Volcane> apbarrett: yeah the problem is requiring something does not realize it and does not include it, thats why you're being bitten | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:32:11] <apbarrett> oh well, it can wait for monday. thanks for the help. | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:33:42] <Volcane> np | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:34:21] <joe-mac1> i put in a feature request to auto realize required virt resources... i think it got accepted | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:34:46] <apbarrett> yes, I saw that as "accepted" in the tracker | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:35:10] <zahna> so, what's a good way to build config files depending on variables? | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:35:18] <joe-mac1> ERB templates zahna | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:35:39] <zahna> they can keep out lines altogether? | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:36:03] <Volcane> zahna: they're ruby, full conditionals supported | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:36:23] <apbarrett> google "erb template". quite easy to get started. | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:36:36] <joe-mac1> there's also a little page on the wiki about them | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:36:47] <joe-mac1> and a useful command for parsing them to make sure the syntax is right | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:36:53] <zahna> and here i was trying to build a string' | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:37:06] <joe-mac1> LOL, good luck with that! | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:37:17] <joe-mac1> it would have been a nice accomplishment | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:37:31] <joe-mac1> til you saw erb and was just like ....shit. and left to go to the pub | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:37:44] <apbarrett> speaking of templates, is there an easy way to get the name of the template file itself, so I can write "# Do not edit this file, edit the template at <%= filename %> on <%= puppetmaster %>" | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:37:46] <zahna> i'd like to go to the pub anyway | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:37:53] <zahna> i could do with a few pints | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:38:32] <joe-mac1> yea me too, banged my foot up last week and have been confined to home all week | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:38:43] <zahna> that sucks. sorry to hear that. | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:38:56] <joe-mac1> these antibiotics also have been making me so tired i'm sleeping like 14 hours or something, getting nothing done.. weak | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:39:05] <joe-mac1> thanks for the sympathy | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:39:21] <zahna> sure thing. getting hurt sucks. | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:39:53] <zahna> so if i'm using this template in a define, where's a good place to put it? | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:40:05] <zahna> s/put/store/ | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:41:00] <plathrop> zahna: templates dir of the module in which you declare the define? | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:41:13] <apbarrett> modules/your_module/templates/filename.erb, and refer to it via file { foo: source => template("your_module/filename.erb") | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:41:21] <zahna> heh, my define isn't in a module | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:41:31] <zahna> i hadn't even thought of doing that | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:41:57] <zahna> everything else is modularized, but not my defines | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:42:51] <zahna> do defines go in <module>/manifests/init.pp? | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:43:06] @ Quit: joe-mac: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:43:17] <joe-mac1> that's whjere i put mine... | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:43:45] <zahna> cool | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:45:44] <apbarrett> if init.pp is getting too cluttered, then move the defines out to modules/<module>/manifests/defines.pp, and put "imort defines" in init.pp | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:46:00] <pugetworks> with an exec, and tagmail set, I get an email each time exec is called, but I'd like to only get an email when exec fails... is this possible? | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:46:14] <joe-mac1> pugetworks: in .24.6 and greater there is an err tag | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:46:19] <Volcane> define mod::foo () { } can also go in foo.pp | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:46:30] <joe-mac1> i think that's the version it started at, i know for sure it's in .24.8 cause that's what i use | ||
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| [2009/06/26 12:47:01] <joe-mac1> the only emails i ever get atm are errors... i don't know if you can do, only send err+exec like an and, but the err tag is generally useful if something gets messed you get notified | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:47:32] <pugetworks> I only want the errors atm | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:47:39] <zahna> also, is this proper? file { "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-$iface": | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:48:11] <joe-mac1> yea, it'll work but zahna you might want to get in the habit of doing like ${iface} | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:48:18] <joe-mac1> but that'll definitely work | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:48:27] <zahna> oh, ok. | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:48:47] <joe-mac1> unless of course somehow you declare the resource twice | ||
| [2009/06/26 12:49:08] <joe-mac1> pugetworks: yea in tagmail add err to email you. i actually have mine em ail an alias that points to the people in my group | ||
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| [2009/06/26 13:04:54] <abien> If i have a module with several classes that are not nested, class B canot have a 'require => File["/etc/yum/"]' statement if the actuall 'file { "/etc/yum/": ' statement is in a different class? | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:05:17] <pugetworks> you need an inherits | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:05:51] <pugetworks> class yum inherits otherclass { | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:05:57] <abien> so in my case , class b inherits " a different class" right? | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:05:59] <abien> ah yes ok | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:06:05] <abien> im gonna try that | ||
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| [2009/06/26 13:17:26] <dan__t> Hrm. | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:17:35] <dan__t> I have Puppet installing config files before packages are installed. | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:17:46] <dan__t> Any tips for resolving that? Shouldn't a require take care of that? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 13:18:49] <agaffney> yes | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:19:03] <agaffney> require => Package[foo] in the File | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:19:11] <dan__t> Well, wtf. | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:19:15] <agaffney> assuming you also have a package { foo: ... } | ||
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| [2009/06/26 13:19:43] <dan__t> Oh, I was requiring a class | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:19:51] <dan__t> Same effect though, if the package is required per that class, right? | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:20:13] <agaffney> eh, not sure | ||
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| [2009/06/26 13:29:32] <dan__t> yeah | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:29:35] <dan__t> looks liket hat works | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:29:38] <dan__t> it cascades as such | ||
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| [2009/06/26 13:30:46] <bgupta> joe-mac: What was that link in reference to? | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:31:15] <joe-mac> whatever your qwuestion was before i sent it | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:31:21] @ Quit: markp: | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:31:22] <joe-mac> something about a list of variables | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:32:08] <dan__t> Kewl, I get to rebuild like 204118043 RPMs. | ||
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| [2009/06/26 13:40:24] <nawty> peeps | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:40:31] <nawty> puppet + passenger, bad idea ? | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:42:21] <dan__t> Not sure. | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:42:27] <dan__t> Never played with Passenger before. | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:42:32] <dan__t> But there's nothing that Apache's mod_proxy can't do :( | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:42:42] <dan__t> So I think I'm going to stick with that, like, forever. | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:44:54] <bgupta> AH I bet you meant to sent that link to bpgoldsb instead of me.. | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:45:16] <bgupta> bpgoldsb: joe-mac: bgupta: wiki:TypeReference is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:45:44] <gepetto> bgupta: bpgoldsb: wiki:TypeReference is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:47:57] <joe-mac> Oh yea maybea typo with thte tab completion | ||
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| [2009/06/26 13:57:37] <nawty> how about nginx ? | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:57:45] <nawty> i just don't like the idea of mod_proxy. | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:57:53] <nawty> it's given me many hours of pain in a previous lief. | ||
| [2009/06/26 13:57:54] <nawty> life/ | ||
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| [2009/06/26 15:02:54] <hacim> what kind of pre-requisites are there for the puppet trainings? | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:03:48] <Volcane> lots of money | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:04:48] <Volcane> know linux well and thats probably about it | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:05:57] <hacim> i'm talkin' skills ;) | ||
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| [2009/06/26 15:10:46] <Volcane> from what i know its like from beginner with puppet | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:10:51] <Volcane> but u need to know linux | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:11:27] <Volcane> mail the list and ask, or ask training@reductivelabs.com | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:11:33] <Volcane> 2nd probably better | ||
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| [2009/06/26 15:26:25] <bpgoldsb> if multiple things require the same thing, in this case and 'exec', will the 'exec' be run once or multiple times? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 15:26:53] <Tonnerre> bpgoldsb, the idea is that it would be run once, before any of the targets requiring it | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:26:56] <joe-mac1> once | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:27:19] <bpgoldsb> Good. Thats what I wanted. Now to play devil's advocate... What if I wanted it to run each time? :P | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:27:36] <Tonnerre> Then define a new exec for each time :P | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:27:42] <Tonnerre> define() could be your friend there | ||
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| [2009/06/26 15:35:02] <joe-mac1> yea, you'd have to wrap the exec in a define | ||
| [2009/06/26 15:35:20] <joe-mac1> otherwise, even if you were to notify it twice, those notifies queue up and then the resource is applied once | ||
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| [2009/06/26 15:36:13] <shood_> could someone point me in the right direction. need to do a wildcard match on a file resource.. for example /dir/*/subdir | ||
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| [2009/06/26 17:15:01] <PhatBaja> One specific definition is on two different modules. When I include both modules in one node i get the error ArgumentError: Duplicate definition: File[/var/data/apps] is already defined in file... | ||
| [2009/06/26 17:15:08] <PhatBaja> How to overcome this issue? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 17:26:07] <Volcane> you cant define the same resource twice | ||
| [2009/06/26 17:26:25] <Volcane> in a define, files etc, should all be unique | ||
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| [2009/06/26 17:28:19] <Volcane> if say you have a define to install an app, and it needs the parent directory that holds many apps, you need to make that parent directory in a class and include it | ||
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| [2009/06/26 17:39:36] <PhatBaja> Volcane: Thanks | ||
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| [2009/06/26 17:59:09] <gepetto> ::trac:: Common Misconceptions edited by jamtur01 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/CommonMisconceptions (by james@lovedthanlost.net) | ||
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| [2009/06/26 20:11:14] <ZeeRusski> i've got a silly q... i'd like to check what version of package is installed on the system and based on that, setup config files | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:11:42] <ZeeRusski> can't quite figure out how to do an if/else/case based on a specific version of a package | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:21:11] <ZeeRusski> mm seems like i need to do a custom factoid | ||
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| [2009/06/26 20:47:14] <nd33r> Hi all, new to Puppet. I've just installed puppetmaster on one Debian Lenny box and puppet on another Debian Lenny box. Any good tips on getting started? (Reading documentation now) | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:48:42] <ezekiel> reading documentation is the good tip | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:48:57] <nd33r> lol... yep, thought i'd get that one :) | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:49:17] <ezekiel> start with managing something fairly harmless, maybe cron jobs or something | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:49:25] <nd33r> I like the concept so far... I'm tired of manual administration of so many servers | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:49:38] <ctso> take a look at some of the existing recipes | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:49:41] <ezekiel> and put your puppetmaster library in version control right away - git, ahem | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:49:42] <ctso> both in the docs and on github | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:49:47] <ctso> they really give you a good idea of how puppet can be used | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:49:49] <ctso> particularly in a modular way | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:50:13] <nd33r> Hmm, i read that about SCM for puppetmaster... what's the reason behind this? | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:50:26] <nd33r> so many changes that it's good practice? | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:50:47] <ctso> i'd say that applies to anything code-related, period | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:50:53] <nd33r> Thank you ctso | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:51:03] <kennobaka> it's really handy to have a commit hook that means you only commit correct syntax, too | ||
| [2009/06/26 20:51:25] <kennobaka> especially if you have a cron to auto-checkout the puppet source every few minutes so that you don't have to remember to do it after each commit | ||
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| [2009/06/26 20:53:26] <nd33r> Thank you kennobaka... I now see the true usefulness. Finally, a good reason to try GIT instead of Subversion, which i've been using for years now. | ||
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| [2009/06/26 22:10:45] <incommon_ike> version 0.25 is supposed to have simple windows support. What does that include? exec only? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 22:20:29] <jamesturnbull> incommon_ike: user and group at this stage | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:21:15] <incommon_ike> gotcha. so no ability to call a bunch of .bat files, then. | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:21:45] <jamesturnbull> incommon_ike: not the initial code but once it runs it'll be easy to add providers | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:22:54] <incommon_ike> ok. thanks | ||
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| [2009/06/26 22:49:43] <n3kl> where is puppet:/// defined? | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:51:55] <ctso> what do you mean | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:52:27] <n3kl> well, on a client, if I specify the source file of puppet:///coolfile, how do I know where on teh server it actually lives? | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:53:18] <ctso> i personally use it like: puppet:///<modulename>/<filename>, which ends up being in <modulepath>/<modulename>/files/<filename> | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:55:01] <n3kl> is that pretty standard? | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:55:22] <n3kl> So it seem to me that most people keep the files that belong to the module under the module directory, is that right? | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:55:30] <ctso> yeah | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:55:46] <ctso> i mean it would make sense - otherwise, the module wouldn't be very portable | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:55:49] <n3kl> I guess I am just wanting all of my configs to live in teh same directory | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:56:07] <n3kl> okay | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:56:37] <n3kl> I don't know what it means to have a portable module, but I am reading lots | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:57:53] <ctso> there's probably a better way to do this | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:58:05] <ctso> but at the very least, you could just make a module that has a files dir with all your configs | ||
| [2009/06/26 22:58:20] <ctso> just need to make sure that config module is always there | ||
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| [2009/06/26 23:13:23] <n3kl> I am gettting: puppetd[20614]: (//Node[basenode]/sudo/File[/etc/sudoers]) Failed to retrieve current state of resource: No specified source was found from puppet:///sudo/files/sudoers. This last bit is the source I am using, and the file exists: /etc/puppet/modules/sudo/files/sudoers | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:13:37] <ctso> if you look carefully | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:13:42] <ctso> i didnt put "files" in the puppet:/// url | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:14:05] <ctso> the files directory is implied | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:18:47] <n3kl> so I should specify puppet:///module/actualfile instead | ||
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| [2009/06/26 23:20:02] <n3kl> so if the file is actually /etc/puppet/modules/sudo/files/sudoers, I should use the source option of puppet:///sudo/sudoers, right? | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:20:22] <Djelibeybi> n3kl: right. | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:21:05] <n3kl> I am also told that *everything* should be a module. Is this also correct? | ||
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| [2009/06/26 23:21:36] <Djelibeybi> I tend to take the "everything that I apply to more than one server" should be a module position | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:22:21] <n3kl> Okay, and its standard to have a files/ dir under every module with an init.pp file for every module also? | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:22:27] <Djelibeybi> Yup | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:22:39] <Djelibeybi> Well, you only need a files dir if your module has file resources | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:22:54] <n3kl> Ahhh | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:23:14] <n3kl> Cool | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:23:20] <n3kl> My sudo transfers | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:23:24] <Djelibeybi> Yay | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:23:27] <n3kl> indeeed | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:23:39] <n3kl> On to the "hello world" | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:24:03] <n3kl> Is it wise to have puppet update itself? | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:24:39] <n3kl> Also, is it wise to have all of /etc/puppet on teh server stored in subversion? What other options are out there to use subversion? | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:25:27] <rmiller4pi8> why not do that? | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:25:59] <n3kl> cool | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:26:41] <rmiller4pi8> in terms of having puppet update itself, i do that, but i only run it manually to minimize the risk of something breaking and me not seeing it, but ymmv | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:27:04] <Djelibeybi> My puppet clients update their own puppet.conf and I store all of /etc/puppet from the puppetmaster in Subversion | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:27:37] <n3kl> Djelibeybi: work well for you? | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:27:44] <rmiller4pi8> oh, i wasn't thinking of puppet.conf on the client when i said that, but rather the puppetmaster | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:27:52] <Djelibeybi> n3kl: so far, so good. | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:27:54] <rmiller4pi8> definitely update puppet.conf on the client with puppet | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:28:16] <n3kl> I'd like to be able to migrate from one server to another if I had to | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:29:43] <n3kl> so to do this, I would create a puppet module, right? | ||
| [2009/06/26 23:31:54] <jamesturnbull> n3kl: yep | ||
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| [2009/06/26 23:42:18] <n3kl> I like this game |
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