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| [2009/06/22 02:26:57] <FiXion> what would be the best way to assign multiple roles to one host.. ? | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:27:14] <FiXion> I need to run ldap server::slave on one mysqlserver | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:27:23] <FiXion> and ldap server::master on another mysqlserver | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:27:27] <FiXion> (don't ask why :) | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:27:36] <FiXion> the mysqlservers current inherit dbserver | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:28:02] <FiXion> the "easy" way is to just do a case on hostname in the the basenode or something. | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:28:06] <FiXion> but it seems ugly. | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:28:24] <FiXion> any recommendations ? | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:28:42] <FiXion> I was thinking of a role array or something.. | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:29:02] <FiXion> but I believe they are as frozen as $vars.. once configed - can't be changed or added to ? | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:29:46] <FiXion> all elegant solutions are welcome :) | ||
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| [2009/06/22 02:49:27] <nico> alban2: bonne fête | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:49:37] <alban2> :D | ||
| [2009/06/22 02:49:45] <alban2> merci | ||
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| [2009/06/22 04:40:02] <nico> how do you handle machines being puppet client & puppet master at the same time ? (for puppet.conf not being overwritten) | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:41:26] <apbarrett> first dumb question of the day: "gem list" shows that rails is installed, yet puppetd complains "Rails is missing; cannot store configurations" when I try to use storeconfigurations = true. is there something missing from the instructions in the UsingStoredConfiguration wiki page? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 04:42:43] <apbarrett> nico: I have puppet::master and puppet::client classes, where puppet::client is willing to overwrite puppet.conf, but puppet::master is not. | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:42:47] <ssm> nico: use an array in the "source" parameter for /etc/puppet/puppet.conf, the first being puppet.conf.$fqdn, and add a file called puppet.conf.yourpuppetmastershostname to the file repository | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:43:31] <ssm> nico: or do what apbarrett says, have a class for master, and a class for the nodes | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:44:34] <Volcane> nico:let whatever master config you put down also have the client stuff in it? | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:44:59] * Volcane has puppet::config and puppet::master and puppet::client both of those include config, config does the right thing based on source array | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:45:09] <ssm> Volcane: if you use storeconfigs, the database password is in that file, and I don't think I'd want to distribute that to the clients | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:45:26] <Volcane> it doesnt distribute to the clients just because its in store config | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:45:33] <Volcane> unless you're doing something pretty odd | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:46:09] <ssm> Volcane: sorry, I was thinking if you distributed the same puppet.conf to master and nodes | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:46:29] <Volcane> ssm: one config for all the nodes, one for the master that also include the stuff to make it a node | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:46:41] <ssm> Volcane: yes | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:46:49] <Volcane> using the source param | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:46:56] <nico> I have 2 class atm | ||
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| [2009/06/22 04:49:02] <nico> "puppet" is for clients (should rename it), puppet::master is for masters and they each have a file description for /etc/puppet/puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/06/22 04:50:46] <nico> puppet is included in my "common" class | ||
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| [2009/06/22 05:00:00] <apbarrett> Is there an easy way to get a more useful error message than "Rails is missing; cannot store configurations"? For example, instead of just "Rails is missing", I'd like a list of exactly where puppet expected to find rails, because as far as I can tell, rails is installed. I suppose I can truss the process (it's on solaris). | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:01:16] <Volcane> apbarrett: nah its a bit shitty, quite tempremantal, doesnt work with the latest version either, if you can read ruby check out /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/parser/interpreter.rb thats where it tries to figure it out | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:02:05] <Volcane> ah i lie thats not where, hold | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:02:28] <apbarrett> i have rails-2.3.2 installed as a gem. if that's known not to work, I | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:02:48] <apbarrett> ... I can easily downgrade to an older version | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:03:05] <nico> don't mix up gems & packages | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:03:50] <apbarrett> I am just following the instructions on the wiki which says "gem install rails", so taht | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:04:08] <apbarrett> s what I did. | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:04:57] <Volcane> see /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/feature/rails.rb | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:05:27] <Volcane> you can figure out its logic for validating rails presense in that | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:09:06] <apbarrett> hmm, thanks. now I have to trace what ruby's actually doing with those require statements. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 05:20:51] <realist> I wrote an external node classifier that uses a CouchDB backend, today. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 05:21:14] <realist> Hopefully I'll have the code published somewhere within the next 2-3 days (once I polish it off) | ||
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| [2009/06/22 05:43:57] <apbarrett> ruby -e "require 'rubygems'; require 'active_record'; print defined? ActiveRecord::Associations::BelongsToPolymorphicAssociation" prints "nil". I guess this is why puppet/features/rails.rb fails for me. | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:45:06] <Volcane> try an older one | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:45:41] <Volcane> i dont have exported resources enabled myself but defo it works with like the late 1.x ones and early 2.x ones | ||
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| [2009/06/22 05:47:24] <apbarrett> I have rails-2.3.2 and active-blah-blah 2.3.2. will try progressively older versions; thanks. | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:47:53] <Volcane> afaik i saw a commit on the list saying they're improving the error handling for this :) | ||
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| [2009/06/22 05:53:44] <Volcane> http://www.debgem.com/ <-- debian packages for most/all gems, might help with a ton of the debian/gem woes here | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:54:21] <Volcane> "It's free during the public beta period!" though | ||
| [2009/06/22 05:54:22] <Volcane> pants. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 06:08:01] <apbarrett> \ | ||
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| [2009/06/22 07:40:54] <thegcat> Hello | ||
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| [2009/06/22 07:41:36] <thegcat> quick question about facter: is it still planned to have other than "ruby-generated" facts? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 07:44:24] <thegcat> jamesturnbull: there? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 07:55:40] <nasrat> thegcat: yes it is | ||
| [2009/06/22 07:55:49] <nasrat> it's on the roadmap | ||
| [2009/06/22 07:56:02] <thegcat> nasrat: any approx. ETA? | ||
| [2009/06/22 07:56:04] <nasrat> both for key value pairs and for executable fact.d | ||
| [2009/06/22 07:56:28] <nasrat> after I've cleaned up virtual.rb probably | ||
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| [2009/06/22 07:57:52] <thegcat> ok | ||
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| [2009/06/22 07:58:25] <nasrat> so shortly | ||
| [2009/06/22 07:58:39] <thegcat> nasrat: btw, if you have a few minutes left sometime, could you have a look at my proposed rework of the uptime fact? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 07:58:59] <nasrat> thegcat: sure, last week was manic at work | ||
| [2009/06/22 07:59:32] <thegcat> still want to write some tests before submitting a patch, but the basic idea is done, might need some finetuning of the regexen though | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:00:17] <thegcat> nasrat: yeah, I have 2 concerts this week, so I won't have that much time either, no need to hurry :-) | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:02:15] <tim|macbook_> totally off-topic, but does anyone know of good nagios plugins to check if heartbeat is up and running? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 08:25:04] <Volcane> tim|macbook_: crm_mon has a nagios output mode | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:25:15] <Volcane> assuming you're using crm | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:25:19] <tim|macbook_> yeah i am | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:25:23] <tim|macbook_> it does? hm... | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:25:51] <tim|macbook_> Volcane: in which version? | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:25:57] * tim|macbook_ is using debian etch... | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:26:15] <Volcane> # crm_mon -s | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:26:16] <Volcane> Ok: 2 nodes online, 5 resources configured | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:26:26] <Volcane> this is 2.1.3 | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:26:59] <tim|macbook_> 2.0 doesn't have that one yet :( | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:27:56] <Volcane> sheesh thats ancient, even mine is utterly out of date | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:28:02] <tim|macbook_> i know | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:28:21] @ Quit: saurabhverma: Client Quit | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:28:27] <tim|macbook_> but upgrading is out of the question for the moment... production stuff | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:28:35] <Volcane> nods, same boat | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:28:37] <tim|macbook_> it's going get upgraded somewhere in the following months | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:28:42] @ Quit: kolla: Remote closed the connection | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:28:42] <tim|macbook_> but not yet | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:28:51] <Volcane> well then parsing crm_mon -1 output should do it? | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:29:33] * tim|macbook_ thinks the best wat is simply checking /etc/init.d/heartbeat status, then | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:29:39] <tim|macbook_> for the time being | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:29:49] <Volcane> debian has status? | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:29:53] <tim|macbook_> yeah | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:30:21] <tim|macbook_> $ sudo /etc/init.d/heartbeat status | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:30:21] <tim|macbook_> heartbeat OK [pid 6111 et al] is running on bla1 [bla1] | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:30:35] <Volcane> a | ||
| [2009/06/22 08:30:39] <tim|macbook_> not perfect, but good enough, i guess | ||
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| [2009/06/22 09:48:21] <sheldonh> nasrat: come up with a genius plan for optimizing a bunch of related facts, by having them do something like @funky_stuff ||= {}? :) | ||
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| [2009/06/22 10:05:36] <Volcane> sheldonh: yeah you could make a module of your own with lotsa helper functions and do caching in it, though there's the PITA with libdir inside facts not understanding paths to pluginsynced extra libs :( | ||
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| [2009/06/22 10:07:34] <tim|macbook_> !seen davids | ||
| [2009/06/22 10:07:34] <gepetto> tim|macbook_: DavidS was last seen 7 days, 7 hours, 1 minute and 34 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | ||
| [2009/06/22 10:07:38] <sheldonh> Volcane: i could be filthy and declare the module in the lowest-sorting fact file :) | ||
| [2009/06/22 10:07:58] <sheldonh> !seen jesus | ||
| [2009/06/22 10:07:58] <gepetto> sheldonh: Jesus was last seen 2 months, 16 days, 20 hours, 22 minutes and 55 seconds ago, changing nick from Jesus to BMDan | ||
| [2009/06/22 10:08:10] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2009/06/22 10:08:11] <tim|macbook_> lol | ||
| [2009/06/22 10:08:13] <sheldonh> feels like longer | ||
| [2009/06/22 10:09:02] <tim|macbook_> sheldonh: feel like something of 1976 years? | ||
| [2009/06/22 10:09:14] <sheldonh> something like that :) | ||
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| [2009/06/22 11:28:37] <joe-mac> OT, anyone here4 visualizing sar data with rrdtool? i can't get the sar2rrd.pl script working on ubuntnu 8.04 lts, have no idea who to ask and i suck with perl | ||
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| [2009/06/22 11:51:07] <resonate> hi! | ||
| [2009/06/22 11:55:46] <joe-mac> hi | ||
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| [2009/06/22 12:01:22] <lolipop> hello, i have a base.php which included a smtp::client, but i wish to exclude it for a node, can i do something like include base and exclude smtp::client in my site.pp? | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:01:29] <lolipop> sorry, base.pp* | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:01:30] <resonate> what is the focus of this channel, development chat, support? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 12:02:14] <resonate> to chat up the founders? | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:03:57] <fsweetser> a little of both | ||
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| [2009/06/22 12:08:05] <rebirth> lolopop: you can include base.pp based on the hostname. | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:08:17] <rebirth> with a case statement. | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:08:51] <lolipop> oh | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:08:53] <lolipop> thanks | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:09:03] <rebirth> that is not very nice, but it works. | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:09:28] <rebirth> case $hosname { | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:09:28] <rebirth> "somehost": { } | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:09:28] <rebirth> default: {include base} | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:09:28] <rebirth> } | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:09:40] <rebirth> $hostname of course. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 12:10:54] <lolipop> oh | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:11:19] <lolipop> currently i have included everything in base.pp, then i just define include base on every node | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:11:37] <lolipop> but there 1 is of the class which i wish to exclude from a node | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:11:51] <lolipop> but there is 1 of* | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:12:15] <lolipop> rebirth: so that is the only solution? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 12:17:08] <lolipop> thanks rebirth | ||
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| [2009/06/22 12:55:02] <zirpu> anyone at velocity conf today? | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:55:06] <zirpu> (besides lak) | ||
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| [2009/06/22 12:57:12] <rmiller4pi81> i am | ||
| [2009/06/22 12:57:50] <flashn> lineup looks nice | ||
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| [2009/06/22 13:08:53] <zirpu> i'm thinking about writing a function i can use as a locking mechanism. anyone know if that's been done before? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 13:09:26] <zirpu> my idea is to use it for updating apps on a pool of servers where we don't want more than 1 server out-of-service at a time. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:09:45] <joe-mac> i don;'t know if puppet is the right tool for that jb | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:09:46] <joe-mac> job** | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:09:47] <zirpu> for now i'm just going to use a memcache instance to hold the lock they they'll use. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:10:28] <zirpu> it would be easier to just use fabric or capistrano, but i need to automate it for the devs since they are hesitant to learn more than their specialties. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:10:38] <zirpu> and i'm not allowed to maim or torture them. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:10:44] <joe-mac> all they need to know is to run a cap task | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:10:45] <zirpu> says so my boss says. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:10:50] <joe-mac> stab? | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:11:11] <joe-mac> the pain is quick, so it's not turtue, and since you're not detaching any limbs, not maiming either | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:11:12] <flashn> zirpu, hehe yeah | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:11:13] <zirpu> yes, but then i'd need to give them accounts and sudo access on the production boxes. also not wanted. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 13:11:29] <flashn> zirpu, Im having the same kind of problems | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:11:33] <zirpu> true. i'd really like to use a bowling pin. but lost mine. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:11:49] <flashn> deploying apps and rolling restarts | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:12:03] <zirpu> our installs are pretty easy. just apt-get install <package>. the package takes care of shutting down apache and such. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:12:16] <zirpu> all python apps w/ internal pypi repo for our eggs and such. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:12:30] <agaffney> at my last job, I had a really nice LART...a 3 foot long, 1/4" thick, 3" diameter cardboard tube | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:12:54] <agaffney> very light to carry but could impart a lot of force without hurting the tube | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:12:59] <flashn> zirpu, by default it will only take 1 service at the time, but you'd want some functionality added as well | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:13:00] <zirpu> we used to call the bowling pin BPOJ: bowling pin of justice. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 13:13:30] <flashn> zirpu, or run the puppetd from crontab with a few minutes in between for the nodes | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:14:22] <zirpu> i only use cron to verify puppet is running, and puppet to verify cron is running. we try not to have cron jobs on production frontend app servers. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:14:27] <flashn> which seems to be the best way of running puppetd anyway | ||
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| [2009/06/22 13:14:51] <flashn> or is the memory leak fixed? | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:15:15] <zirpu> i haven't seen a memory leak. but we're probably not using puppet enough to cause it. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:15:26] <flashn> neither have I.. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:16:46] @ Quit: MattyM: "ta ta" | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:16:46] <zirpu> so back to the function. will puppet timeout if a function does a loop and sleeps? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 13:18:41] <flashn> you'd want something that checks the availability on the node after deploying and only continue if it responds accordinly? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 13:20:09] <zirpu> no, i want to have something that checks if there is a package to deploy, and gets a lock so only 1 server at a time deploys the package. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:20:36] <flashn> oh i see | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:20:48] <zirpu> i.e. i don't want to take all our www servers down simultaneously. pisses off the boss. | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:20:53] <flashn> >:D | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:20:53] <zirpu> and looks silly. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 13:22:14] <flashn> tell me if you find something, only thing I can think of is calling external scripts | ||
| [2009/06/22 13:23:50] <zirpu> yeah, that might just be simpler. test for result of external script. let it do the loop and wait. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 14:20:43] <zirpu> jamesturnbull: you popped up in his screen. :-) | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:20:57] <zirpu> 'hey' | ||
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| [2009/06/22 14:53:15] <agaffney> hmm, that's odd | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:53:23] <jrojas> no its not. | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:53:30] <jrojas> :) | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:53:33] <agaffney> this is the first time I've used ssh_authorized_keys, and it's acting "odd" | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:53:45] <agaffney> it writes the file each run and filebuckets the "old" version | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:53:48] <agaffney> but the file never changes | ||
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| [2009/06/22 14:57:40] <jrojas> i think its a known bug | ||
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| [2009/06/22 14:58:22] <rmiller4pi8> jrojas: i was thinking of moving to that instead of just passing out a bunch of different files and/or templates...does that mean it just doesn't work or is the problem more particular? | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:58:46] <Volcane> set target => and it should stop | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:58:48] <jrojas> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2124 | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:59:04] <Volcane> (ssh authorized keys) | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:59:10] <jrojas> as Volcane said, specifying a target should fix it | ||
| [2009/06/22 14:59:55] <jrojas> from what that bug syas its targeted for 0.25 , which means it should be in the beta release.. I think the patch may be backwards compatible if upgrading is not an option | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:07:03] <agaffney> Volcane: woot...thanks | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:12:50] <joe-mac> i ran into something with specifying a target | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:13:01] <joe-mac> i use an authorized_keys2 file and i still get an err: | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:13:22] <joe-mac> cause authorized_keys does not exist, idk it looks accepted says "needs design decision" in redmine | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:13:32] <joe-mac> (in .25 i mean) | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:14:30] <jrojas> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2351 | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:23:11] <joe-mac> yea, that's my bug report | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:23:27] <joe-mac> i was just chiming in on the authorized key type and the target parameter | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:24:07] <jrojas> ah | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:24:09] <jrojas> :P | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:29:32] <mhs> i'm really baffled by an error i'm getting running puppet as a standalone. | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:29:51] <mhs> i have an /etc/puppet/modules/exim/files/exim.conf file... | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:30:18] <mhs> on the line that references it, i consistently get the error: | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:30:32] <mhs> Could not find filebucket main at /etc/puppet/modules/exim/manifests/init.pp:11 | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:30:43] <joe-mac> can't contact the filebucket | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:30:46] <joe-mac> what's in your site.pp | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:31:17] <joe-mac> i've nevevr run puppet standalone, not sure how the filebucket stuff works in that kind of situation, or if it even does | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:31:42] <mhs> that was it - i had a File { backup => main } line that was in site.pp | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:31:59] <mhs> i was so worried about something wrong with the module, i never looked at site.pp | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:32:24] <mhs> i just removed that line entirely, and it fixed things. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:36:20] <mhs> joe-mac: 'what's in your site.pp' was the crucial thing I needed to get back on track. | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:36:23] <mhs> thanks a bunch | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:37:06] <joe-mac> np | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:42:54] <fzzzt> hello. just to check syntax, if i have a file resource named "/etc/blah/file.ext" can I do source => "puppet:///modules/mod/${name}" ? | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:45:10] <fzzzt> oh it goes into path | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:46:03] <joe-mac> if you have a modules section you can do like puppet://$server/autofs/auto.master | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:46:09] <joe-mac> in your fileserver.conf** | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:46:33] <joe-mac> but it should work the way you're saying too, as long as the file exists in the files folder of your module | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:47:29] <axisys> what is the best way to install puppet client on 300 solaris boxes? use clusterssh to install csw gem and then use clusterssh and gem to install facter and puppet and then push the puppet client init script using ssh loop to all of them ? | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:48:15] <joe-mac> isn't there a csw puppet package? | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:48:18] <do> are those boxes installed alreade? | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:48:48] <do> otherwise I would suggest to install puppet during installation. Although i do not know how to do this on solaris. | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:48:59] <Volcane> jumpstart :( | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:49:06] <fzzzt> delegate to an intern | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:49:06] <axisys> joe-mac: i could try that again.. last time i had bad experience with csw puppet.. so clusterssh to the boxes and install a batch of hosts with csw puppet and csw facter ? | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:49:08] <fzzzt> :P | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:49:27] <axisys> do: installed already .. too late for jumpstart | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:49:31] <joe-mac> axisys: i don't use solaris, haven't in a long time, but i would test if first | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:49:35] <joe-mac> what problems did you have before? | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:49:36] <axisys> fzzzt: heh | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:49:47] <do> then clusterssh.... | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:49:54] <fzzzt> is there a variable containing the class name accessible within that class? | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:50:00] <axisys> joe-mac: i think the problem was opensolaris specific and not solaris .. been a while | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:50:05] <joe-mac> o i c | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:50:22] <Volcane> fzzzt: $name after around 0.24.7 or 0.24.8 else $name is only inside defines | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:50:25] <axisys> do: ok .. i still like to check with smart people here.. thanks | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:50:38] <fzzzt> This is in 0.25 | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:50:42] <fzzzt> ok | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:50:49] <Volcane> axisys: person called glaw on here is big on solaris puppet and i think he maintains packages | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:51:05] <axisys> Volcane: thanks .. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:54:45] <axisys> can I start with latest stable for client 0.24.8 ? and I guess push the new puppet pkg using puppet later ? | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:57:40] <do> we have client (freebsd/debian/ubuntu/mac os x)/server(debian) both versiond 0.24.8 and they work pretty well. | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:57:53] <do> your client should not be newer than the server. | ||
| [2009/06/22 15:57:55] <axisys> do: thanks | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:58:02] <axisys> do: ok | ||
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| [2009/06/22 15:59:06] <do> we have upgraded those from 0.22.x over all versions that existed in between and were regarded stable. there were never any problems with the upgrade. as long as the server is first upgraded (by hand), the clients can then be automatically upgraded by puppet. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 16:06:41] <rmiller> hey all | ||
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| [2009/06/22 16:06:57] <specsmu> so I left SZ and am now at another company where I'm going to deploy puppet for the first time | ||
| [2009/06/22 16:07:15] <specsmu> I would like to use the ldap provider for the nodes... but I would like to have that attached to a decent asset tracker front end | ||
| [2009/06/22 16:07:30] <specsmu> do you know of any asset trackers that can interface with ldap/puppet, or do I need to write that piece myself? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 16:11:34] <fzzzt> huh, asset db backed by ldap | ||
| [2009/06/22 16:12:12] <Volcane> specsmu: check out nventory its not spot on but its looking pretty good, maybe its ok | ||
| [2009/06/22 16:12:23] <fzzzt> anyway gotta run thanks again volcane | ||
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| [2009/06/22 16:13:14] <specsmu> if it's got a good base, I can work with it | ||
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| [2009/06/22 16:26:17] <specsmu> thanks... guess I'm going to need to work on this as an integrated solution... | ||
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| [2009/06/22 17:53:27] <gepetto> ::trac:: Installation Guide edited by BobCochran @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/InstallationGuide (by cochranb@speakeasy.net) | ||
| [2009/06/22 17:58:44] <Volcane> dont need to open udp | ||
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| [2009/06/22 18:00:45] <dan__t> Anyone mind giving me a hand: http://pastebin.com/m665a749f When I comment out that 'include' line for 'sudo', the error goes away. But I can't find anything wrong in that module init.pp | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:01:24] <dan__t> err, "include sudo," is line 5 of nodes.pp | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:02:14] <dan__t> Am I blind or something? | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:02:17] <dan__t> Mildly retarded? | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:02:51] <dan__t> hm. updated it to reveal accurate file paths. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:03:56] <Volcane> you cant do node "*.foo" | ||
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| [2009/06/22 18:05:03] <dan__t> I'm quite certain you can. I can remove that 'include sudo' line completely and the definition will work - for hosts contained in *.domain.tld | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:05:15] <dan__t> I've seen that used as being valid many times. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:06:05] <dan__t> .....but looking again, they're wrong. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:06:55] <dan__t> Well, whatever. Regardless. I can have that format, comment out the offending 'include sudo' line, and it will work. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 18:08:50] <Djelibeybi> dan__t: take out the extra two "includes", i.e. use include sudo, users, groups | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:08:57] <dan__t> hm. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:09:03] <dan__t> I just figured it out. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:09:06] <dan__t> It has nothing to do with } | ||
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| [2009/06/22 18:11:25] <Djelibeybi> dan__t: what was it? | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:14:49] <Volcane> regardless, if you're using wildcards in node files you're doing it wrong and you wont get the results u want | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:14:55] <dan__t> Noted. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:15:04] <dan__t> We did use that somewhere else back in the day, and it did work. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:15:11] <dan__t> I'm not arguing the point, I just think its curious. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:15:19] <dan__t> Djelibeybi, I had commas after the include lines | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:15:27] <dan__t> Mind you, multiple includes per declaration | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:15:51] <Djelibeybi> dan__t: yes. Either no comma, or comma and no extra "include" statements | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:06] <dan__t> Wow. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:12] <dan__t> Alright. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:25] <Djelibeybi> Also, include is about the only thing that complains if there is a trailing comma | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:27] <Djelibeybi> I've noticed. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:34] <Djelibeybi> So: | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:36] <Djelibeybi> include a, b, c, | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:38] <Djelibeybi> will fail | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:40] <Djelibeybi> But | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:42] <Djelibeybi> include a, b, c | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:16:44] <Djelibeybi> Will be fine. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:17:12] <dan__t> Very nice. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:17:30] <Volcane> Djelibeybi: thats because include foo is really include(foo) | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:17:38] <dan__t> Ahh, that makes sense. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:17:52] <Djelibeybi> Volcane: yeah, I'm sure there's a reasonable reason. It's just something I noticed. :) | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:18:52] <dan__t> Well thanks again. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:18:54] <dan__t> Makese sense now. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:18:56] <dan__t> makes, too. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 18:41:36] <dan__t> I know this could easily be done by "just doing it", but say you guys are packaging software and stuff | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:41:40] <dan__t> where do you draw the line? | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:42:54] <Volcane> one off scripts i just file{} out and configs obviously, but if somethings more than say 3 files i pkg it | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:44:08] <dan__t> I'm trying to make things as atomic as possible | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:44:32] <dan__t> I've rolled a lot of our software in to RPMs, but any piece of software may have many conf files. I'm deciding based on how often I expect that config file to change, if ever. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:45:17] <Volcane> i do like: vsftpd::install, vsftpd::config, vsftpd::service and vsftpd | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:45:25] <Volcane> install generally just installs a package or so | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:45:29] <Cuchulain> if you have to compile it, package it | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:46:09] <Cuchulain> for bundles of scripts, it's probably up to you - tradeoff between managing a versioned rpm file, and lots of individual resources | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:46:26] <Volcane> yeah just dont start doing lots of recursive copies with puppet | ||
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| [2009/06/22 18:46:59] <dan__t> yep. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 18:47:26] <dan__t> So I think I'm going to skip the virtual/realize stuff in lieu of simply defining a user, not @user, for a host as appropriate. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:47:45] <dan__t> I don't understand the point of virtual/realize. I mean I do, but to me it makes no sense to use that when a perfectly good class can be used for the same purpose. | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:48:29] <Volcane> dan__t: if all your users are the same on all machines then its fine | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:48:38] <Volcane> dan__t: they only make sense if u need to override parts of the user | ||
| [2009/06/22 18:49:30] <dan__t> Oh - that's it, eh | ||
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| [2009/06/22 19:00:11] <dan__t> Can I use 'node *.$domain { ... }' ? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 19:00:26] <dan__t> So I can use facter variables and such? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 19:04:20] <dan__t> Guess I can't use that - period. | ||
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| [2009/06/22 20:48:40] <justdave_> is there a way to set a prerequisite that a package NOT be installed? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 20:49:41] <justdave> I have a "package { foo: ensure => absent; }" and then in the item that depends on it not being there I have "require => Package[foo];" | ||
| [2009/06/22 20:49:59] <justdave> and that appears to be checking if foo is installed instead of that the foo package definition has been met? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 21:01:08] <QMan> justdave: can you clarify the question? | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:02:08] <justdave> I have a package that the maintainer failed to set a conflicts header in. The package it conflicts with has to be removed before that one is installed, and is present by default in our initial server load (a problem I can fix, but doesn't help all the machines already out there :) | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:02:33] <QMan> ah - I think I get what you're trying to do | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:02:40] <justdave> so I need to specify that the first package *can't* be present before the second one can be installed. | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:03:04] <QMan> is the ensure => absent definition in it's own class? | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:03:17] <justdave> the first one is "foo" in my example above... I have a rule that successfully removes it. But it's not always doing it in the correct order, and the second one fails on the first attempt because the first one is still there. | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:03:29] <justdave> they're both in the same class | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:03:38] <QMan> hrm... | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:04:03] <QMan> try splitting it out, and having the second require => Class[fooremover] | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:04:33] <QMan> where class fooremover has your package {foo: ensure => absent} definition | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:04:40] <justdave> sounds like a plan | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:04:55] <QMan> I can't think of a way to do it inside the same class, so this *should* force the dependency | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:05:14] <QMan> (note -- I'm just starting out, so take it with a bucket of salt and test thoroughly :) ) | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:08:57] <hMz> is it possible to do multi-dimension arrays in puppet? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 21:11:08] <QMan> hMz: not AFAIK | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:11:14] <QMan> hMz: http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/554e355de4aa15ea?pli=1 | ||
| [2009/06/22 21:12:27] <hMz> expected? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 21:49:02] <jamesturnbull> zirpu: cpaise? | ||
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| [2009/06/22 22:51:10] <justdave> QMan: found a machine that hadn't been updated yet, and tested that change, it worked. Thanks for the idea :) | ||
| [2009/06/22 22:53:02] <QMan> justdave: awesome stuff -- thanks for letting me know | ||
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