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| [2009/06/05 01:03:09] <gepetto> ::trac:: Recipes/AmazonEC2 edited by jamtur01 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/AmazonEC2 (by james@lovedthanlost.net) | ||
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| [2009/06/05 01:12:38] <pinoyskull> i want my script to run as a user not as a root, how do i do it in puppet? | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:17:02] <joe-mac> pinoyskull: what do you mean? | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:17:15] <joe-mac> in an exec resource? check out wiki:TypeReference | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:18:15] <pinoyskull> joe-mac: if you do exec { "userscript.sh": | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:18:19] <pinoyskull> it is usually run by root, right? | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:18:29] <pinoyskull> i want it to run by a different user | ||
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| [2009/06/05 01:20:52] <joe-mac> yea, there is a user and a group param for exec | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:21:06] <joe-mac> puppetdoc | less that has the typereference for your version | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:21:14] <joe-mac> the wiki has the latest | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:21:59] <joe-mac> pinoyskull ^^ | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:22:13] <pinoyskull> ok ill read, thanks joe-mac | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:22:44] <joe-mac> np, just look at the user and group attributes, as simple as user => "username" | ||
| [2009/06/05 01:22:52] <joe-mac> shouldn't really need to set the group one | ||
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| [2009/06/05 02:01:48] <loquito> Is the any sort of repo of reusable definitions for puppet somewhere? | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:02:32] <joe-mac> loquito: yes, google site:reductivelabs.com "complete configuration" | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:02:48] <joe-mac> there are a couple, lab42 infrastructure, dschmitt's stuff, and i saw some new ones recently | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:02:59] <ricky> http://www.puppetmanaged.org/trac/ is one that I konw of | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:03:00] <loquito> Great, thanks | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:03:01] <ricky> **know of | ||
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| [2009/06/05 02:36:54] <sheldonh> tara! yesterday's sprint review was the first one we've had where stakeholders actually got excited about what we'd done. go puppet | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:37:22] <joe-mac> sheldonh: what did you do? | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:37:35] <joe-mac> save a ton of money on car insurance? :-D | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:38:30] <sheldonh> lol | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:38:53] <sheldonh> joe-mac: rolled out puppet and implemented storereports and a few cli-driven reports | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:39:16] <joe-mac> nice, i can't wait to have reporting | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:39:17] <sheldonh> joe-mac: with much help from DavidS and Volcane | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:39:20] <joe-mac> i just enabled it | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:39:30] <joe-mac> yea, Volcane++ | ||
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| [2009/06/05 02:39:41] <joe-mac> i haven't talked to DavidS much but he knows whats up too | ||
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| [2009/06/05 02:45:51] <sheldonh> joe-mac: very helpful (not just willing, but actually contributing to success) :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:46:06] <joe-mac> sweet | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:46:18] <sheldonh> now... to see whether puppetd does magic to survive restarting itself :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:46:42] <joe-mac> just skips the current catalog run afaik, sinc3e the lock file exists | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:47:20] <sheldonh> joe-mac: as long as i don't get unreported log messages, i'll be thrilled | ||
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| [2009/06/05 02:58:05] <RageLink> hey guys | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:58:18] <RageLink> im having noob flashes | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:58:20] <RageLink> :P | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:58:35] <joe-mac> hi RageLink, maybe you should tell your doctor about that | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:58:37] <joe-mac> heh | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:58:41] <RageLink> heh | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:58:46] <RageLink> im getting err: Could not retrieve catalog: Could not find class transaction at /etc/puppet/manifests/site.pp:5 on node x.x.com on the client | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:58:55] <RageLink> and I go check the master for the import path | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:59:04] <RageLink> and the module exists | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:59:04] <joe-mac> pastie your site.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 02:59:14] <RageLink> k one sec | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:00:26] <RageLink> http://pastie.org/501322 | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:00:37] <RageLink> none of my includes seem to be working | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:00:41] <RageLink> so I tried import | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:00:43] <RageLink> and nuttn | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:00:47] <RageLink> same deal | ||
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| [2009/06/05 03:01:46] <joe-mac> what's up with including some stuff, then only importing one? | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:02:08] <RageLink> well if I try to include/import all of them its the same thing | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:02:12] <RageLink> so i thought narrow it down | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:02:17] <RageLink> and fix sudo first | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:02:20] <RageLink> then work my way up | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:02:23] <RageLink> ;) | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:02:45] <RageLink> ssh and ntp are more sensitive.. i cant have them break just yet | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:02:46] <joe-mac> h/o, include != import, so i'm a little confused by what you're putting out there | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:02:57] <RageLink> well i have 2 module paths | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:03:08] <RageLink> /etc/puppet/modules/modules | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:03:09] <joe-mac> one for each env? | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:03:12] <RageLink> /etc/puppet/modules/sitemodulesmodules | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:03:24] <RageLink> one has generic stuff (modules) | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:03:35] <RageLink> the sitemodules are specific to our env | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:03:47] <RageLink> I load the sitemodules according to our env | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:03:54] <RageLink> or thats the idea at least | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:04:27] <RageLink> i want to be able to include modules that I have in modules modules inside our sitemodules | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:05:04] <RageLink> I didnt some up with this design.. im just following what the dude before me did (he left) | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:05:07] <RageLink> :S | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:05:19] <joe-mac> yea, it sounds like he was sort of, insane | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:05:40] <joe-mac> this worked at some point RageLink? | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:05:58] <RageLink> works for a diff environment... I just copied stuff over | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:06:03] <RageLink> and wont cooperate now | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:06:19] <RageLink> funny thing is... there isnt a single class in classes to be found | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:06:21] <RageLink> its all modules | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:06:24] <RageLink> somehow | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:06:34] <RageLink> <- very green at puppet | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:07:36] <joe-mac> when you say diff environment, you mean a puppet environment? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 03:07:47] <joe-mac> pastie your puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:09:34] <RageLink> BTW that site.pp was actually /etc/puppet/modules/sitemodules/cx/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:10:42] <joe-mac> RageLink: that's not site.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:10:56] <joe-mac> that's init.pp. you want to pastie site.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:11:03] <joe-mac> it sounds like your directory structure is a little odd | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:12:50] <RageLink> http://pastie.org/501328 | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:12:53] <RageLink> thats puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:12:59] <RageLink> it was autogenerated | ||
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| [2009/06/05 03:15:02] <pinoyskull> i have an error on my manifest | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:15:31] <pinoyskull> http://pastie.org/501331 | ||
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| [2009/06/05 03:15:52] <RageLink> joe-mac: http://pastie.org/501332 | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:16:00] <RageLink> BTW have I thanked you | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:16:01] <RageLink> thanks | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:16:03] <RageLink> :D | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:16:10] <pinoyskull> and the error is http://pastie.org/501333 | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:16:41] <pinoyskull> running the command itself on the machine is successful | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:17:04] <joe-mac> pinoyskull: well, an exec's environment is not the same as you running it on the host | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:17:14] <joe-mac> i'm guessing the cap stuff needs some env vars th at are undefined | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:17:31] <pinoyskull> hmm | ||
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| [2009/06/05 03:18:17] <joe-mac> RageLink: i don't see any environment sections in your puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:18:24] <joe-mac> for example, this is mine | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:18:26] * joe-mac pasties | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:18:48] <pinoyskull> joe-mac: but i have similar exec commands that are successful, and by looking at them, there's not much difference | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:19:38] <joe-mac> http://www.pastie.org/501334 | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:20:23] <joe-mac> pinoyskull: so if you copy that into a .pp on the node and run puppet -dv file.pp, what happens? | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:20:28] <RageLink> joe-mac: is that part of the puppet.conf or the site.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:20:45] <joe-mac> RageLink: that is puppet.conf. i;ll paste site.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:20:50] <RageLink> :) | ||
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| [2009/06/05 03:21:38] <joe-mac> this file, http://www.pastie.org/501335 , is at /etc/puppet/production/manifests/site.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:21:46] <joe-mac> your site.pp should barely have anything in it... | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:22:11] <RageLink> dang | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:22:19] <RageLink> i need to refactor this | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:22:25] <joe-mac> yea, i'd say so | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:22:28] <RageLink> you think it might be better to toss this whole thing out | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:22:30] <RageLink> and redo | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:22:31] <RageLink> ? | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:22:40] @ Quit: QMan: | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:23:08] <joe-mac> ahh, tough to say, but just from the glimpse you've shown, and that god awful confusing directory structure, i'd say probably copy that off to the side and basically start fresh, and bring in stuff from the old tree | ||
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| [2009/06/05 03:23:24] <joe-mac> re factoring puppet is no joke though, and if it's actually working somehow right now, you have to be vewwy vewwy careful | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:23:36] <RageLink> well im doing this in new boxes | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:23:45] <RageLink> so this is on another datacenter | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:23:46] <joe-mac> yea, discard that then | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:23:48] <RageLink> non production | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:24:26] <RageLink> oh well... all nighter then | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:24:28] <RageLink> thanks :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:24:38] <joe-mac> it's already 330 here lol | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:24:49] <RageLink> ill be popping in and out of here as the month progresses im sure | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:24:57] <RageLink> its 1:24 here | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:25:01] <RageLink> :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:25:18] <joe-mac> i am in boston area | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:25:22] <RageLink> nice | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:25:31] <RageLink> I am in the Costa Rica area | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:25:32] <RageLink> :D | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:25:39] <joe-mac> oooo so jealous | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:25:48] <RageLink> i was about to say the same | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:25:51] <RageLink> <3 boston | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:26:22] <macbar_> 9:26 here | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:26:27] <macbar_> *yawn* | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:26:31] <RageLink> pm or am? | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:26:33] <joe-mac> haha, it's not so exciting for me, born and raised in the area. it's nice though, i appreciate how small it is | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:26:36] <HarryCalahan> am | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:26:38] <joe-mac> compared to nyc or something | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:27:19] <RageLink> heh totally | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:27:30] <RageLink> its all like nicely built tho | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:27:37] <RageLink> unlike nyc | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:27:39] <RageLink> ;) | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:28:16] <RageLink> besides you gots teh MIT | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:28:16] * joe-mac stabs vmcrippleware | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:28:31] <RageLink> im doing my stuff on openvz | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:28:37] <RageLink> cant complain | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:28:48] <joe-mac> we need VI4, but don;'t have the cash for it | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:04] <joe-mac> so i am forced to use server, since it's the status quo anyways | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:11] <RageLink> ew | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:15] <RageLink> so like | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:28] <joe-mac> and it sucks. it is truly cripplewre. they are trying to basically use an rh-like business model, but they're not an open source company. | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:31] <RageLink> you know VMware gave up ESXi for free right | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:39] <pinoyskull> joe-mac: i run puppet -dv myfile.pp and ti says | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:40] <joe-mac> lol, crippleware without VI | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:44] <pinoyskull> -bash-3.2# puppet -dv nfs.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:45] <pinoyskull> debug: Creating default schedules | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:45] <pinoyskull> debug: Finishing transaction -606992938 with 0 changes | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:29:59] <pinoyskull> doesnt help much | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:30:02] <joe-mac> esxi dies, you are screwed without VI, you';ve got no way to do anything relaly. | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:30:07] <joe-mac> pinoyskull: did the command execute? | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:30:20] <joe-mac> i mean, put just thnat exec into a .pp file | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:30:27] <joe-mac> if you put a class into it, it's niot going to do anything | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:30:32] <pinoyskull> ah | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:30:35] <RageLink> depends on what you want to run | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:30:52] <RageLink> i choose my virtualization depending on what I want to get done | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:31:14] <joe-mac> i don't make decisions like that- it leads to messes like the one i have been cleaning up since day one at this job | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:31:35] <RageLink> heh | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:32:48] <pinoyskull> joe-mac: i got this | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:32:49] <pinoyskull> err: //Exec[/usr/local/bin/cap -f /home/nfs_deploy/Capfile add_nfs1]/returns: change from notrun to 0 failed: /usr/local/bin/cap -f /home/nfs_deploy/Capfile add_nfs1 returned 1 instead of 0 at /root/sample.pp:4 | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:33:33] <joe-mac> pinoyskull: can you change the exec to be /bin/sh -c "/usr/local/bin/cap -f /home/nfs_deploy/Capfile add_nfs1" | ||
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| [2009/06/05 03:38:55] <RageLink> joe-mac: do you happen to have an example nodes.pp i could peek at | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:39:16] <RageLink> first think i want to clear out of the site.pp is node definitions | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:39:17] <RageLink> :D | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:39:40] <joe-mac> sure i'll paste you my node_templates, and a sanitized nodes.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:39:59] <RageLink> man ur a lifesaver :D | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:41:54] <joe-mac> http://www.pastie.org/501351 that';s a snippet of my node_templates.pp | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:43:10] <gepetto> ::trac:: Adding Facts edited by jamtur01 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/AddingFacts (by james@lovedthanlost.net) | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:43:10] <gepetto> ::trac:: Adding Facts edited by jamtur01 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/AddingFacts (by james@lovedthanlost.net) | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:43:31] <pinoyskull> joe-mac: | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:43:32] <pinoyskull> it worked | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:43:58] <pinoyskull> http://www.pastie.org/501355 | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:44:17] <joe-mac> http://www.pastie.org/501357 theres my nodes.pp | ||
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| [2009/06/05 03:44:31] <joe-mac> pinoyskull: yea some kind of environment thing i am guessing | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:44:55] <pinoyskull> thanks a bunch | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:45:22] <joe-mac> np | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:50:05] <RageLink> dang | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:50:16] <RageLink> so I added some configs to the environment like you said | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:50:20] <RageLink> and its running | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:50:21] <RageLink> somehow | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:50:24] <RageLink> :( | ||
| [2009/06/05 03:51:02] <RageLink> im still refactoring this stuff though.. | ||
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| [2009/06/05 04:33:07] <pinoyskull> joe-mac: puppet can read facter right? | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:33:26] <joe-mac> yea, puppet needs facter to work. | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:34:05] <sheldonh> if puppet does nothing other than report facts to a central place, it would already pay for itself :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:34:06] <pinoyskull> can it read facter's value then redirect it to file? | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:34:55] <sheldonh> pinoyskull: see /var/lib/puppet/yaml/facts on the puppetmaster | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:35:03] <pinoyskull> ah wait | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:37:23] <pinoyskull> ok | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:37:54] <pinoyskull> this is from facts | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:37:54] <pinoyskull> ipaddress_eth0: 10.251.31.241 | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:37:55] <pinoyskull> facterversion: 1.5.2 | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:37:55] <pinoyskull> operatingsystem: CentOS | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:37:57] <joe-mac> all facts are under there. and they can be matched with conditionals in manifests | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:38:03] <joe-mac> yes | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:38:05] <pinoyskull> how can i put ipaddress_eth0 to a file | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:38:09] <pinoyskull> the value | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:38:17] <joe-mac> by parsing the yaml file? | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:38:20] <joe-mac> small ruby script | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:38:41] <pinoyskull> can we do that directly to .pp? | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:38:42] <joe-mac> or, loop trhough your hosts with Net::Ssh from ruby and run facter ipaddress_eth0, redirecting out to a file | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:38:59] <joe-mac> pinoyskull: like i said you can get those variables inside manifests with $ipaddress_eth0 | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:39:15] <pinoyskull> ah | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:39:17] <pinoyskull> ill try that | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:41:44] <pinoyskull> any plans from reductionlabs to conduct puppet training in Asia :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:42:27] <joe-mac> idk, i am not with RL. i just offer as much helpa si can in here | ||
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| [2009/06/05 04:57:20] <sheldonh> i get the sense there's at least one guy who's willing to be flown anywhere :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:57:52] <pinoyskull> who? | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:58:15] <sheldonh> can't remember name. the guy who started puppet, who did the 2008 presentation video | ||
| [2009/06/05 04:58:20] <sheldonh> awesome video, sadly truncated :( | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:06:18] <joe-mac> luke kanies started puppet, his nick is lak... i think if there was demand he would fly there. i don't know if there is enough to warrant that or not. | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:09:35] <sheldonh> that's right. it was luke | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:09:41] <sheldonh> he seemed very pragmatic :) | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:14:18] <pinoyskull> im having fun with puppet :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:15:54] <f3ew> pinoyskull where in Asia? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:16:02] <pinoyskull> Philippines | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:18:57] <DavidS> pinoyskull: there'd be probably many who'd like a fly to the philippines for a puppet training :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:19:27] <pinoyskull> that's cool | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:19:50] <DavidS> and I'm pretty sure that someone from reductivelabs would hold a training enywhere in the world if there's enough $$ in it :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:21:13] <pinoyskull> haha | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:21:30] <pinoyskull> well | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:21:35] <pinoyskull> a webinar will doo | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:21:37] <pinoyskull> do* | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:30:41] <loquito> What is the recommended location for facts? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:34:07] <pinoyskull> the default one? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:35:31] <loquito> I mean, I am confused by the documentation out there, some says put it under a module, others say put it under $vardir/facts. I have no idea what is the best practice and what will mean things will give work automagically | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:36:48] <jamesturnbull> loquito: use wiki:PluginsInModules | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:36:48] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: loquito: wiki:PluginsInModules is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PluginsInModules | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:37:00] <jamesturnbull> omry_|work: that's the preferred behaviour | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:37:05] <gepetto> ::trac:: Whos Using Puppet edited by dougalf @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/WhosUsingPuppet | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:37:07] <pinoyskull> mine is in $vardir/facts | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:37:08] <sheldonh> loquito: somewhere other than facter's default location :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:37:19] <sheldonh> we use $vardir/facts too | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:37:41] <jamesturnbull> pinoyskull: up to you but we're deprecating factsync in 0.25.0 ... it'll still work but itll go away in 0.26.0 I think | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:37:59] <DerekW> jamesturnbull, what replaces factsync then? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:01] <pinoyskull> really | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:03] <pinoyskull> hmm | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:10] <DerekW> Plugins in modules? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:13] <jamesturnbull> pinoyskull: for training if you had 10-12 people I am sure RL would do it | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:15] <jamesturnbull> DerekW: yes | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:25] <pinoyskull> jamesturnbull: for free? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:26] <pinoyskull> :D | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:35] <DerekW> Ah right. Will be interesting. Many of our custom facts are shared around | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:55] <loquito> jamesturnbull: so when I put my fact under my plugins/facter dir in my module, what do I have to do so that when I do "facter fact" it works | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:38:56] <jamesturnbull> pinoyskull: well it'd be worth their while then - their per person training costs are quite reasonable as technical training goes | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:39:07] * jamesturnbull does not work for Reductive but does like them... :P | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:39:16] <pinoyskull> heheh | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:39:26] <pinoyskull> puppet is not widely used here thou | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:39:27] <jamesturnbull> loquito: facter --puppet | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:39:40] <jamesturnbull> loquito: but it was broken for a whle - now working in 1.5.5+ | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:40:18] <jamesturnbull> loquito: but from 1.6 we'll streamline that process somewhat ... it's a little clumsy now | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:40:18] <loquito> jamesturnbull: ahh, so will there need to be a config option on the client as well? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:41:45] <jamesturnbull> loquito: not sure what you mean? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:42:41] <loquito> Ah, nevermind, didn't make sense. Okay another question, what is the best way to install puppet/puppetmaster/facter? Using the ubuntu repos means that I am a few versions back | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:44:31] <jamesturnbull> loquito: I roll my own packages - but I am mostly RPM based | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:44:37] <jamesturnbull> loquito: or I use EPEL | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:44:44] <jamesturnbull> for Ubuntu ... hmmm | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:45:48] <loquito> jamesturnbull: I would prefer not to have to rely on a distributions packages really. I just want the latest stable releash all the time | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:46:38] <loquito> release* | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:47:51] <pinoyskull> i have another question | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:47:53] <pinoyskull> in exec | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:48:12] <pinoyskull> i have to put this on exec sh -c "commands..." | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:48:15] <pinoyskull> so | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:48:30] <pinoyskull> exec { "sh -c ?commands?": | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:48:38] <pinoyskull> what to put in place of ? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:48:51] <pinoyskull> cuz backtik wont work as well as single quote | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:49:45] <jamesturnbull> loquito: I'd roll your own packages then and manage your own repository then - the dsc for Ubuntu should be easy to edit in later versions | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:50:53] <gepetto> ::trac:: Exported Resources edited by ckauhaus @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ExportedResources (by kc@gocept.com) | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:51:38] <pinoyskull> anybody? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 05:52:24] <penthief> From a client machine that is managed by a puppetmaster, is there a simple way to work out if a file is managed by puppet? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:54:05] <jamesturnbull> pinoyskull: single quotes | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:54:25] <jamesturnbull> pinoyskull: oh hmm - see http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageTutorial#quoting | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:54:29] <jamesturnbull> pinoyskull: you can escape it | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:54:44] <pinoyskull> let me try that cuz single quote wont work either | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:54:46] <jamesturnbull> penthief: no | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:56:00] <jamesturnbull> pinoyskull: sorry mental blank there for a moment | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:56:12] <pinoyskull> nah, its ok | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:56:13] <jamesturnbull> penthief: what are you trying to achieve? perhap we can find some way? | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:56:40] <penthief> We are in a migration phase, we are starting use puppet. | ||
| [2009/06/05 05:57:25] <penthief> I was wondering when i was on a server if I could check whether a file was managed by puppet. Similar to if a file is installed/manage by rpm you can use rpm -qf /etc/cron.d/afile | ||
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| [2009/06/05 06:00:08] <penthief> maybe one day it will be possible :) | ||
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| [2009/06/05 06:03:41] <loquito> jamesturnbull: When you say roll my own package, why would I do that? If I were just to unpack and install from the tar balls, would that not give me everything needed ? or are there other steps needed and are those steps documented? | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:04:13] <Volcane> tar files does not handle a lot of cases that packages does | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:04:18] <pinoyskull> jamesturnbull: got error | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:04:27] <pinoyskull> returns: change from notrun to 0 failed: | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:04:35] <Volcane> plus its a fundemental departure from how your OS is designed to work, esp if those tar files put files into places like /usr | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:05:14] <loquito> Volcane: okay, so is there any docs about what is needed for a proper puppet install? | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:05:25] <pinoyskull> i tried this exec { "/bin/sh -c \"some comands\"": | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:05:26] <Volcane> loquito: what distro do you use? | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:05:32] <loquito> ubuntu | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:05:42] <Volcane> there are already debs for ubuntu | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:06:02] <loquito> Volcane: Yes but they lag behind the current stable release | ||
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| [2009/06/05 06:06:35] <Volcane> the source debs or whatever debian calls them should be easy to just rebuild for new point releases | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:06:48] <Volcane> but i also know the debs have new maintainers who will probably keep up better | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:07:26] <Volcane> there have been too many cases to remember of people who had troubles with source installs of puppet though, bits being left over from previous releases and then they get weird behaviours, a problem that packages solve very nicely | ||
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| [2009/06/05 06:08:46] <loquito> Volcane: so what do I do for the meantime? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 06:09:29] <Volcane> loquito: do you have local repo mirrors? | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:10:41] <loquito> Volcane: No, only started using puppet last week, trying to get into it at the moment, but it is proving to be very stop start | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:11:47] <Volcane> what version is in ubuntu? | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:11:58] <loquito> 9.04 | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:12:07] <Volcane> what version puppet/facter is in ubuntu | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:12:19] <jamesturnbull> loquito: I agree with Volcane's comments | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:12:24] <jamesturnbull> Volcane: karmic has 0.24.8 | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:12:32] <jamesturnbull> Volcane: other versions go down from there | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:13:32] * jamesturnbull will brb after he has made potato and leek soup | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:13:46] <Volcane> dont know much about unbuntu but shouldnt it be possible to just use the pinning business to pin the puppet/facter debs into those repos? | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:14:02] <Volcane> yonks ago i used pinning for puppet on my old debian machines | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:14:06] <HarryCalahan> ubuntu 9.04 has puppet 0.24.5 | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:15:37] <HarryCalahan> and pinning works the same as in debian | ||
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| [2009/06/05 06:31:36] <Dominic> it might be worth trying 'prevu' if you get stuck, it's meant to help backport packages into older Ubuntu versions | ||
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| [2009/06/05 06:51:01] <pinoyskull> question | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:51:09] <pinoyskull> i want my script to run only once in puppet | ||
| [2009/06/05 06:51:16] <pinoyskull> so i put state? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 07:00:54] <sheldonh> pinoyskull: i worry about when people want something to only run once. i prefer to have a fact, the value of which determines whether the script should run | ||
| [2009/06/05 07:01:00] <jamesturnbull> pinoyskull: puppet is not really designed to do that - its ideopotent | ||
| [2009/06/05 07:01:06] <sheldonh> pinoyskull: but that said, i don't know the answer to your question | ||
| [2009/06/05 07:02:23] <sheldonh> pinoyskull: we have a running kernel version fact. if the running kernel version isn't the one we want, and if we're in a maintenance window, and if our uptime is greater than the length of the maintenance window, reboot | ||
| [2009/06/05 07:02:52] <sheldonh> (right now we just have the fact. the rest is planned, but some serious testing is required) :) | ||
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| [2009/06/05 07:40:10] <FreakGuard> doesn't look like puppetd defaults to --server puppet | ||
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| [2009/06/05 08:34:28] <rcsheets`> oh yeah, i'm still on irc. huh. | ||
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| [2009/06/05 08:39:05] <sheldonh> rcsheets: happens to the best of us | ||
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| [2009/06/05 08:50:15] <rcsheets`> is there some way to preview what will be done by a change to a puppet manifest? | ||
| [2009/06/05 08:50:36] <Volcane> puppetd --test --noop | ||
| [2009/06/05 08:50:38] <Volcane> on the client | ||
| [2009/06/05 08:50:55] <rcsheets`> so i make the change on the server and then do that on the client? | ||
| [2009/06/05 08:51:09] <Volcane> yes no way to test anywhere but on the client realy | ||
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| [2009/06/05 08:51:36] <rcsheets`> ok and i'm assuming that won't stop the client from picking up the changes in the normal course of events, so i'd probably have to kill the client as well | ||
| [2009/06/05 08:51:50] <rcsheets`> i mean kill the already-running client | ||
| [2009/06/05 08:52:02] <HarryCalahan> rcsheets`: stop not kill. | ||
| [2009/06/05 08:52:06] <Volcane> puppetd --disable | ||
| [2009/06/05 08:52:14] <Volcane> stops it from running till you do puppetd --enable | ||
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| [2009/06/05 08:57:41] <rcsheets`> ah, ok. great. | ||
| [2009/06/05 08:58:29] <rcsheets`> thank you | ||
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| [2009/06/05 09:10:59] <rcsheets`> ok so i disabled it | ||
| [2009/06/05 09:11:08] <rcsheets`> then i ran with --test --noop and got: | ||
| [2009/06/05 09:11:18] <rcsheets`> notice: Lock file /var/puppet/state/puppetdlock exists; skipping catalog run | ||
| [2009/06/05 09:11:32] <Volcane> hmm, thought --test would bypass that | ||
| [2009/06/05 09:12:05] <Volcane> then you'd be out of luck, safest is to stop puppetd and test | ||
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| [2009/06/05 09:19:48] <rcsheets`> actually i got the same message after killing puppetd :-\ | ||
| [2009/06/05 09:20:10] <Volcane> u need to --enable it | ||
| [2009/06/05 09:20:56] <rcsheets`> oh, ok | ||
| [2009/06/05 09:21:13] <Volcane> enable/disable just creates or deletes that file | ||
| [2009/06/05 09:21:27] <rcsheets`> oh, i get it now | ||
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| [2009/06/05 10:25:03] <Whoop> When I run puppetd --test on one of my ubuntu servers I recieve this: warning: Found multiple default providers for service: freebsd, debian; using freebsd | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:25:13] <Whoop> Any idea why? It appears to think its freebsd...this only happens on this machine | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:25:17] <Whoop> facter says ubuntu as it should | ||
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| [2009/06/05 10:34:41] <rcsheets`> yes | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:34:43] <rcsheets`> that's a known issue | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:35:38] <rcsheets`> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/puppet/+bug/368832 | ||
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| [2009/06/05 10:36:56] <bla-bla> http://widget.mibbit.com/pb/B38JUn Any idea why I'm getting this error? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 10:39:05] <Volcane> show your puppet.conf | ||
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| [2009/06/05 10:46:52] <bla-bla> Volcane: http://widget.mibbit.com/pb/Yz5a2z | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:50:48] <stick> so why can't I append to a variable that's defined in the same scope? | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:51:44] <HarryCalahan> stick: variables are treated as constants. | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:51:48] <Volcane> bla-bla: weird, looks fine | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:52:04] <Volcane> HarryCalahan: except arrays can now append | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:52:15] <HarryCalahan> Volcane: what with 0.25? | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:52:45] <Volcane> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageTutorial#appending-to-variables | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:53:13] <HarryCalahan> stick: as execution order is not easily known in advance (inherit, dependency) it think it's not the worst design decission. | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:53:36] <HarryCalahan> Volcane: ok. i startet with 24.4 and never read the manual again ;) | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:53:50] <sigmonsays> they need to snapshot documentation | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:53:54] <stick> HarryCalahan: yeah not questioning the design just trying to understand | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:54:06] <sigmonsays> it's hard to track what's available in what version :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:54:14] <lak> sigmonsays: we're working on it | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:54:43] <sigmonsays> awesome. Kind of expected it | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:54:52] * HarryCalahan shoves Volcane on the stage | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:55:02] <HarryCalahan> *whisper* give the link to your historical documentation | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:55:02] <Volcane> lak: so say i want to use virtual resources for packages - so i can later put in depdencies. and I want to create those resources with a define. any ideas? :( | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:55:16] <bla-bla> Volcane: I noticed that the files were not owned by the root user...so I changed it...and I still get that parse errot | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:55:19] <bla-bla> error* | ||
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| [2009/06/05 10:56:04] <stick> is there a way to test a variable for a 'nil' value? | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:56:08] <bla-bla> I even checked for '\\r' and '^M$' characters which could have been added due to win-unix file copying | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:56:16] <stick> defined($foo) ? | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:57:37] <HarryCalahan> bla-bla: leading UTF byte order mark? | ||
| [2009/06/05 10:57:58] <bla-bla> yes | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:00:44] <HarryCalahan> bla-bla: i would try with a plain ASCII file | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:01:29] <bla-bla> for puppet.conf you mean? | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:01:37] <HarryCalahan> bla-bla: yes | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:02:33] <lak> Volcane: i don't understand your question | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:03:37] <Volcane> lak: inside a define, i want to make a virtual resources. but then i have no way to later on inherit a class and override things. | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:04:09] <lak> make a relationship to the define? | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:04:37] <Volcane> not following | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:05:07] <lak> why add the relationship to the contained resource (which is virtual) rather than just directly to the containing resource (the definition)? | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:05:56] <Volcane> hmm, so mypkg define create @package{"foo": } i need to add a require => or an ensure => to the package resource, and then realize the package resource | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:11:22] <gepetto> ::trac:: Using Tags edited by seph @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingTags (by seph@directionless.org) | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:13:38] <Volcane> cos i tried that resources made inside a define that is in a class is not modifyable by inheriting from the class | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:13:51] <Volcane> and in that case i dont believe modifying the define will do the job? | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:13:57] <Volcane> defined resource | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:21:02] <lak> Volcane: but adding a require the the mypkg is equivalent to adding a require to the contained package | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:21:19] <Volcane> hmm, I will test | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:27:14] <fzzzt> Can I use a wildcard in a node name? like *.test.domain.com, and use node {} to set environment='testing' for any host in that domain? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:29:55] <lak> fzzzt: no | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:30:06] <fzzzt> ok | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:31:09] <Volcane> lak: so you mean http://pastie.org/501737 ? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:32:37] <Whoop> 14:35:38 < rcsheets`> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/puppet/+bug/368832 | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:32:44] <Whoop> Hmm, I think you linked me to the wrong bug? | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:32:48] <Whoop> Thats not related to my issue at all | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:34:06] <fzzzt> In a selector can I do.. $x = $fqdn ? { /.*\.test\.blah\.com/ => 'testing' } or is there another way to match wildcards on the index? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:34:45] <rcsheets`> Whoop: I think it is related, but I'm just a guy in a channel. | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:35:30] <rcsheets`> I would suggest applying the one-line patch to debian.rb | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:35:53] <rcsheets`> which ubuntu version are you on? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:43:31] <Whoop> rcsheets`: This machine was intrepid | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:44:30] <Whoop> Wait sorry, you're correct...for some reason when I orignally went to that bug it was about something totally different :-| | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:44:34] <Whoop> That does appear to the correct bug, thanks | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:44:36] <FreakGuard> /usr/lib64/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/provider/package/portage.rb:19:in `instances': uninitialized constant FileUtils (NameError) | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:48:15] <FreakGuard> looks like it needs a require 'fileutils' | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:57:05] <thatch_> If I am not mistaken, the puppet command can take a --noop option to execute and only give out the changes that would be made, can this be done with puppetd as well? | ||
| [2009/06/05 11:58:35] <fdz> thatch_: yes, puppetd --noop works | ||
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| [2009/06/05 11:59:44] <thatch_> Thanks! | ||
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| [2009/06/05 12:02:37] <DavidS> nice weekend to everyone | ||
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| [2009/06/05 12:04:14] <fzzzt> so any way to use a wildcard in a selector index? :/ | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:05:56] <FreakGuard> quote class names too? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 12:19:54] <ibt> jamesturnbull: ping | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:20:45] <lak> Volcane: your example doesn't work with 'ensure', but it works fine with 'require' | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:20:57] <lak> because the relationship metaparameters (and, actually, all metaparams) are special | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:21:20] <Volcane> yeah been fiddling with this now, if i add $ensure = "present" to the define then i can override that too | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:21:38] <Volcane> in reality i think I'll always just override requires etc so this hsould be kewl | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:21:47] <Volcane> not sure wtf i did last time i tried to figure this out :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:22:04] <Volcane> end idea is to move all my ensure => foo stuff to my external data source | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:22:27] <Volcane> so i can manage package versions etc outside of puppet by fiddling the data source per host/site etc | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:22:57] <ibt> lak: not sure if the issue i raised on 'whitespace' is out of line according to the dev life-cycle guide. also, i'm not sure how long it can slip before it's annoying to apply (if it is to be used) issue #2328 | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:22:58] <gepetto> ibt: lak: #2328 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2328 "Puppet - Bug #2328: Whitespace cleanup - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
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| [2009/06/05 12:23:05] <Volcane> lak: thanks :) | ||
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| [2009/06/05 12:23:30] <bewst> I think I need some help getting puppet installed on openSolaris 0906 | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:23:51] <lak> ibt: can you send the patches the mailing list for review? | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:24:00] <lak> i expect james can merge them quickly if the pass muster | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:24:08] <lak> but yeah, i would expect they'd need to get merged quickly | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:24:53] <Volcane> lak: http://pastie.org/501796 that works for ensure, awesome | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:24:56] <ibt> okay, should i tbz2 them since they're ~1.5M total | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:25:03] <lak> oh | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:25:07] <lak> didn't realize that :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:25:10] <lak> nm on mailing them, then | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:25:19] <lak> they pushed in a git repo somewhere? | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:25:54] <ibt> lak: i could fork on github and push there | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:26:02] <lak> ibt: that'd be great | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:26:55] <bewst> Are the blastwave packages still outdated for OSOL0906 ? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 12:32:31] <ibt> lak: also, i was kind of concerned about the use of literal tabs in strings rather than \t | ||
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| [2009/06/05 12:41:17] <Whoop> Does anyone know how I can get puppet in Ubuntu Dapper? It's not in the repo...does anyone know of an alternative source? | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:41:28] <Whoop> Would the .deb out a recent repo work? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 12:42:08] <teratoma> running current ubuntu not good enough for you ? | ||
| [2009/06/05 12:42:37] <Whoop> No | ||
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| [2009/06/05 13:06:42] <axisys> how do I speed up the puppet client checking the puppet master? for debug purpose .. | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:07:04] <axisys> dont want to wait 30 mins and dont want to cron it puppet client | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:07:21] <Volcane> if you just want to run it once to test, do puppetd --test | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:07:37] <axisys> puppetd is running in daemon mode.. dont want to touch that... may be add a parameter in puppet.conf file in client ? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 13:11:43] <Volcane> you can run that comand while the daemon runs | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:12:39] <axisys> runinterval is the parameter | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:24:13] <axisys> i do i stop these warnings? http://pastebin.com/f69cdf7ec | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:24:31] <axisys> kind a annoying | ||
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| [2009/06/05 13:28:37] <Volcane> awesome, now i have very granular control over packages, can like roll out one version of a package to all machines in a specific domain/environment/etc | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:29:09] <Volcane> and another version to all others | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:29:28] <Volcane> or say i never want logwatch anywhere, except maybe this one weirdo client he wants logwatch, can manage all of that in my data files | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:30:33] <Volcane> or different version of packages between environments et | ||
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| [2009/06/05 13:47:40] <FreakGuard> what does user > managehome exactly? the description is a bit cryptic | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:50:46] <Volcane> tells adduser to make the homedir | ||
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| [2009/06/05 13:51:04] <Volcane> ie. adduser -m in linux | ||
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| [2009/06/05 13:53:00] <FreakGuard> user > home The home directory of the user. The directory must be created separately and is not currently checked for existence. | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:53:04] <FreakGuard> meh | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:53:08] <FreakGuard> this line needs update then | ||
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| [2009/06/05 13:57:40] <ashp> If I have a class that's included in a baseclass that all my nodes include | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:58:01] <ashp> how can I tell a specific node NOT to install one class without tons and tons of work | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:58:20] <ashp> i guess i could just, for now, change the baseclass to say if not node { include }, but I was hoping for like a uninclude | ||
| [2009/06/05 13:58:37] <Volcane> no such luck :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:00:29] <ashp> aha, i actually built a workaround for this at the time of making rsyslog | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:00:35] <ashp> and forgot all about it :D | ||
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| [2009/06/05 14:13:16] <sigmonsays> can I get a high level overview of cf engine somewhere? | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:13:27] <sigmonsays> how does cf engine scale compared to puppet ? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 14:15:57] <rcsheets`> have you seen http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/CfengineVsPuppet perhaps? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 14:50:01] <joe-mac> i've heard of cfengine setups of like 20 or 30k nodes | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:50:09] <joe-mac> it's also a nightmare to maintain | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:50:49] <FreakGuard> you can compare ruby and c (?) - guess which one is faster :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:50:55] <joe-mac> lol... | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:50:59] <imeyer> i managed an env of ~6k nodes with one cf master | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:51:07] <joe-mac> yea, serious business | ||
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| [2009/06/05 14:51:28] <imeyer> extending cfengine? forget it | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:51:46] * joe-mac dusts off K&R | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:51:48] <joe-mac> lol... | ||
| [2009/06/05 14:51:54] <imeyer> haha | ||
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| [2009/06/05 14:56:39] <FreakGuard> plathrop-away, new irc command for you: /away | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:01:37] <joe-mac> it's somewhat easier to just append to your nick, easier for people to notice | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:01:59] <FreakGuard> a) not really b) it's annoying | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:02:41] <joe-mac> lol... ok | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:03:10] <joe-mac> iw roked at al arge company whose main mode of communication was irc, and everybody did it. nick_lunch. nick_mtg. | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:03:14] <FreakGuard> irc clients can even sort between /away people... pretty hard with just nick change | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:03:19] <joe-mac> nick_killingmyself | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:03:32] <joe-mac> not mine, i use pidgin, i don't see it doing that | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:03:37] <imeyer> joe-mac: did you work at yahoo? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:03:42] <joe-mac> imeyer: nah | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:03:44] <FreakGuard> well, that's just yet another part of instant messaging taking to irc? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:03:46] <imeyer> haha | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:04:14] <imeyer> (i did and we used irc extensively, which is why i asked, i don't know of amyn others that do) | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:04:14] <joe-mac> yea, that's why i use pidgin... a lot of people make fun of me for it but i think it's dumb to have multiple apps for what is effectively the same task | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:04:25] <FreakGuard> IRC <=> IM | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:04:39] <joe-mac> yea, others do imeyer... i thought it was particular to where i worked too but apparently not | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:05:11] <joe-mac> i shouldn't say 'large' yahoo is 'large' it was more medium in comparison, certainly the largest i've worked at though | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:06:37] <imeyer> that's cool. i prefer irc to pretty much anything else | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:06:53] <joe-mac> same here | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:07:06] <FreakGuard> xmpp is pretty good too | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:07:19] <joe-mac> i tried that and it didn't work very well, it was possibly my client though | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:07:25] <joe-mac> it wouldn't show people as online that were and whatnot | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:07:35] <FreakGuard> I don't know how good pidgin's xmpp support is | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:08:05] <joe-mac> yea, who knows... xmpp has good support for like audio conferencing right?> | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:08:10] <joe-mac> or am i thinking of something else... | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:08:13] <agaffney> FreakGuard: pidgin's xmpp support is pretty recent | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:08:16] <FreakGuard> that's more like sip? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:08:16] <agaffney> at least, for "chat" | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:08:31] <FreakGuard> agaffney, ok, sorry then | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:10:01] * Volcane wish there were solid irc clients for os x | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:10:47] <FreakGuard> Volcane, xchat? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:10:51] <Volcane> unmaintained | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:10:52] <FreakGuard> weechat? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:11:11] <FreakGuard> $linux_irc_client | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:11:45] <Volcane> dont care much for crap looking apps that were never intended to run on macs | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:12:05] <FreakGuard> imo design should follow function :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:12:22] <FreakGuard> Volcane, try weechat. | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:12:23] <PhabX> here here | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:12:38] <FreakGuard> it's more functional, tough... | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:12:44] <Volcane> i agree, but desktop environments should also form a consistant whole | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:12:54] <PhabX> Volcane, are you looking for a better IRC client for mac? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:12:59] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:13:21] <Volcane> though weechat does look interesting | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:13:24] <PhabX> after giving up on colloquy, i moved onto limechat; http://limechat.net/mac/ | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:13:50] <PhabX> you don't need the ruby libs if your running 10.5.6+ | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:13:53] <Volcane> but really dont want to foul my macs with darwin ports or any of that grim things | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:14:40] <PhabX> yeah me either, not a fan or ports or fink on mac | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:14:44] <imeyer> i just ssh to a linux machine and use irssi | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:14:57] <imeyer> within screen, then i never have to worry about signing off :D | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:15:05] <Volcane> PhabX: that looks nice, i currently use linkinus thats very mac like | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:15:16] <Volcane> imeyer: i dont sign off and i am always moving between machines | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:15:25] <imeyer> how? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:15:52] <PhabX> oh i like that, i will need to give it a try | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:15:59] <Volcane> irc proxy on my hosted box - irc clients connects either irssii to the localhost or over SSH's socks proxy if i am remote | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:16:17] <Volcane> PhabX: v1 is a bit fiddly, v2 is due out imminantly which seems very promising | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:17:19] <imeyer> Volcane: ah, yeah. nice | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:18:15] <Volcane> PhabX: with limechat, does each channel have its own input box even when you have multiple channels on screen at once like in the screenshots @ http://limechat.net/mac/images/springnight3col.png | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:20:23] <joe-mac> Volcane: you are a mac user? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:20:26] <joe-mac> this is news to me... | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:20:47] <Volcane> joe-mac: yup | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:21:48] <joe-mac> nice, any reason in particular? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:21:54] <ezekiel-v3> don't hold it against him | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:22:10] <joe-mac> lol, i like macs, but i am more productive in linux... | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:22:24] <Volcane> joe-mac: I've never found a linux desktop that didnt piss me off on some level | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:22:41] <PhabX> Volcane: that screenshot is misleading and I admit the default layout kida sucks | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:22:43] <Volcane> joe-mac: and then theres pc hardware | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:23:02] <PhabX> but no, it has a nav bar on the side and each channel opens up in the main view | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:23:13] <ezekiel-v3> guess you never tried http://awesome.naquadah.org/ :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:23:14] <joe-mac> i'm not sure what you mean, mac is pc? or you run powerpc? | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:23:18] <PhabX> it looks like that in the screenshot, but its really the channel and the server messages | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:23:23] * joe-mac wants an ultra 45 :-( | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:23:25] <PhabX> i usually drag the server messages our of the view | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:23:29] <joe-mac> can't afford it for a while... | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:23:48] <Volcane> joe-mac: they're pcs designed 100% for their operating system, theres a big difference between just a grey box with $os on it | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:23:57] <joe-mac> yea, like sparc and solaris | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:24:59] <Volcane> PhabX: yeah limechat will cause as much wrong # typing for me as linkinus :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:25:04] <Volcane> (have it running) | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:25:37] <Volcane> i need to see all channels on screen at once else i forget about some channel and notice days later that the world has come and gone :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:26:00] <PhabX> might be able to do that | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:26:04] <PhabX> ill try it and let you know | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:26:34] <Volcane> anyway, linkinus is fine i think I'll stick with it, v2 should be sweet looks like he implimented some of my suggestions | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:32:23] <patch-tag> say I'm running puppetmasterd to control installs on a client box running puppetd. I conf the master box telling it the client box needs apache, mysql, and whatever. Is there a way to tell on the master box what has successfully been installed on the client box? Or is it a pull only function, where you need to be looking on the client box at what has succeeded? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 15:32:48] <joe-mac1> patch-tag: reporting | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:33:04] <joe-mac1> you have to enable reports on the master, and the clients need to have report set to the true in their conf file | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:33:23] <joe-mac1> then you'll get yaml dumps of reports | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:33:43] <patch-tag> thanks, I'll google around on that | ||
| [2009/06/05 15:33:48] <joe-mac1> np | ||
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| [2009/06/05 16:01:45] <pjw> When you run puppetd in debug mode, what does "Creating default schedules" mean? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 16:28:23] <gwar9999> Hello all... I'm trying to install puppetshow. When I run "rake production db:migrate" (from the wiki) I get "no such file to load -- hobosupport". Earlier I had manually untarred hobo into /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems (such that hobosupport is installed at /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/hobosupport-0.8.7). I'm not sure why rake can't find hobosupport. Other modules are installed in the same .../gems/1.8/gems directory. | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:30:42] <joe-mac1> i never got that to work either | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:32:51] <Volcane> if you run irb and do: require 'rubygems' followed by: require 'hobosupport' what happens? | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:34:24] <gwar9999> LoadError: no such file to load -- hobosupport | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:34:25] <gwar9999> from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `gem_original_require' | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:34:25] <gwar9999> from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require' | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:34:25] <gwar9999> from (irb):2 | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:34:42] <Volcane> nods, defo something wrong with that gem install then | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:36:23] <gwar9999> I installed the gem on another machine and it placed it local to my user (.gem, I believe). I then tarred it up and placed it on the puppetmaster server.... that machine doesn't have connectivity to the gem repo so I can't run gem install there. | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:36:41] <Volcane> no thats probably not going to work | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:36:56] <gwar9999> it doesn't :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:36:59] <Volcane> gem fetch hobosupport | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:37:02] <Volcane> copy to other box | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:37:06] <Volcane> gem install foo.gem | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:37:39] <gwar9999> ahhh, I'll give that a try. I'm not a ruby guy so I had no idea what gem does behind the scenes. Thanks for the tips Volcane. | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:37:45] <Volcane> maybe need --local in there, not a big fan of gem but you defo can install from a local file somehow | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:38:05] <Volcane> mostly i gem fetch then gem2rpm and build a rpm that i then install | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:40:59] <gwar9999> Volcane: Actually, that's a better idea (gem2rpm) since we prefer installing rpms around here rather than lang specific modules (python eggs, ruby gems, etc...) | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:41:15] <Volcane> yeah, gem install gem2rpm :P | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:41:26] <Volcane> bit of a chicken and egg there | ||
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| [2009/06/05 16:41:52] <Volcane> but its great, sometimes it needs some help with gems that installs native extensions but mostly its spot on | ||
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| [2009/06/05 16:47:25] <gwar9999> Volcane: gem2rpm seems to work so far... haven't tried installing it yet but it produced it w/o any issues. I just need to create it on a system w/ the same os/arch then my dev system. | ||
| [2009/06/05 16:47:35] <Volcane> yeah | ||
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| [2009/06/05 18:32:17] <gwar9999> Trying to run puppetshow... | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:32:17] <gwar9999> $ rake production db:migrate | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:32:18] <gwar9999> (in /etc/puppetshow) | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:32:18] <gwar9999> rake aborted! | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:32:18] <gwar9999> uninitialized constant ActiveSupport::Dependencies | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:34:36] <FreakGuard> gwar9999, probably someone forgot a "require" | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:36:18] <gwar9999> FreakGuard: when looking at the --trace, is it the reference at the top the culprit or bottom? I'm guessing the top, but not sure about a ruby stacktrace. | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:36:31] <FreakGuard> should be, jep | ||
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| [2009/06/05 18:51:29] <jamesturnbull> ibt: pog | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:51:36] <jamesturnbull> ibt: pong even | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:54:05] <ibt> jamesturnbull: talked to lak about it. some big whitespace patches. requested a pull by reductivelabs on github. | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:54:46] <jamesturnbull> ibt: okay will have a look | ||
| [2009/06/05 18:56:26] <ibt> jamesturnbull: okay, thanks. they might not apply cleanly for long | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:00:38] <jamesturnbull> ibt: yes so I would assume | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:01:44] <jamesturnbull> ibt: can you post the repo and branch in here? I can't see rl.com's pull requests | ||
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| [2009/06/05 19:08:31] <ibt> jamesturnbull: http://github.com/ibtaylor/puppet/tree/master | ||
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| [2009/06/05 19:13:44] <jamesturnbull> ibt: okay that looks good - applies clean - | ||
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| [2009/06/05 19:15:02] <ibt> jamesturnbull: okay, would you accept patches for syntax/indentation consistency as well? | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:15:34] <jamesturnbull> ibt: yes - those might take a longer review | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:17:00] <ibt> yeah, i'll try to break them up the best i can. i'll try to keep the whitespace ones separate. | ||
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| [2009/06/05 19:17:59] <jamesturnbull> ibt: I've applied the three commits at the top of that repo | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:18:20] <jamesturnbull> ibt: I'll push them shortly | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:18:26] <FreakGuard> who to get puppetmaster running with ruby1.9? | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:18:44] <jamesturnbull> FreakGuard: who? or how? | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:19:28] <FreakGuard> ehh how | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:19:30] <FreakGuard> typo | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:20:05] <jamesturnbull> FreakGuard: Facter works but we need to do some cleanup fixes to Puppet from memory | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:20:21] <FreakGuard> ok | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:21:00] <jamesturnbull> FreakGuard: Josh Berkus did a patch but it wasn't applied due to some issues - you should be able to find the ticket in redmine | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:21:52] <FreakGuard> just wondering | ||
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| [2009/06/05 19:39:43] <jamesturnbull> FreakGuard: please feel free to test and report issues | ||
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| [2009/06/05 19:41:16] <FreakGuard> jamesturnbull, I'm not even sure how to cleanly start puppetmaster with ruby 1.9 | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:42:29] <FreakGuard> jamesturnbull, doesn't work | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:42:59] <FreakGuard> not with 0.24.5 at least... (debian here) | ||
| [2009/06/05 19:58:36] <jamesturnbull> FreakGuard: won't work with 0.24.5 at all I am sure - I'd be trying 0.24.8 or 0.25.0 HEAD | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:00:57] <FreakGuard> ruby1.9 sbin/puppetmasterd --verbose --no-daemonize | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:00:58] <FreakGuard> sbin/puppetmasterd:65:in `require': no such file to load -- puppet/application/puppetmasterd (LoadError) | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:00:59] <FreakGuard> uh? | ||
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| [2009/06/05 20:05:42] <jamesturnbull> FreakGuard: that's 0.25.0 head? | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:05:54] <FreakGuard> should be | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:06:03] <FreakGuard> jep | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:06:16] <jamesturnbull> how did you install it? | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:06:49] <FreakGuard> just git clone... | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:06:55] <FreakGuard> suppose I have to rake it then :) | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:07:12] <jamesturnbull> FreakGuard: install.rb will insall it | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:07:20] <FreakGuard> rake doesn't work anyway | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:07:23] <jamesturnbull> FreakGuard: but best on a fresh machine without an existing Puppet install | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:07:35] <jamesturnbull> FreakGuard: or roll your own RPMs/debs also a good way of testing | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:07:38] * jamesturnbull will brb | ||
| [2009/06/05 20:08:19] <FreakGuard> later maybe... I perfer archlinux for rolling release stuff | ||
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