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| [2009/05/30 00:34:26] <jamesturnbull> tmz: those vim things available in a branch somewhere in your repo? | ||
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| [2009/05/30 01:32:57] <Guest54786> is it possible to tell a directory to send a notification to a service if a file inside it has been removed? I have recures => true | ||
| [2009/05/30 01:40:40] <tmz> jamesturnbull: they are now. on the vim-syntax branch at git://jet.mox.net/~tmz/puppet | ||
| [2009/05/30 01:40:50] <Guest54786> anyone? | ||
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| [2009/05/30 01:58:45] <jamesturnbull> Guest54786: can't remember the exact behaviour but that would trigger a notify if the directory is under management - but testing is the best idea | ||
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| [2009/05/30 01:59:57] <jamesturnbull> tmz: thanks - pushed | ||
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| [2009/05/30 02:08:26] <Guest54786> jamesturnbull: ok thanks, will try it in a bit | ||
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| [2009/05/30 03:44:21] <Guest54786> can I use a file resource construct to have puppet automatically delete a file? I could use an exec with onlyif test -e file but was just curious | ||
| [2009/05/30 03:45:03] <z00dax> yes, ensure => absent will make sure the file is removed | ||
| [2009/05/30 03:46:05] <Guest54786> z00dax: sweet, that's perfect. thanks | ||
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| [2009/05/30 09:49:12] <MrHeavy> Hey, anyone here know anything about writing file providers? | ||
| [2009/05/30 09:49:16] <MrHeavy> I have some questions about conventions | ||
| [2009/05/30 10:08:56] <docelic> well ask your specific question | ||
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| [2009/05/30 11:30:24] <MrHeavy> Basically, it's as follows | ||
| [2009/05/30 11:30:33] <MrHeavy> I've written an IPS provider for OpenSolaris files | ||
| [2009/05/30 11:30:49] <MrHeavy> And I'm not sure whether it should prefetch the package index during a run or not | ||
| [2009/05/30 11:31:00] <MrHeavy> Because it seems sane to prefetch the remote package list | ||
| [2009/05/30 11:31:08] <MrHeavy> But the yum provider doesn't clear the cache | ||
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| [2009/05/30 12:00:04] <Volcane> MrHeavy: yes, you wouldnt want to download the whole MASSIVE package list from remote repos every 30 minutes | ||
| [2009/05/30 12:00:23] <Volcane> MrHeavy: so the yum provider lets the yum config decide how long it should cache for, yum will fetch new if needed | ||
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| [2009/05/30 12:23:47] <jamesturnbull> MrHeavy: if you want advice on specific code the best way is to submit your code as a unified diff to the puppet-dev list | ||
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| [2009/05/30 12:45:15] <MrHeavy> Sounds good | ||
| [2009/05/30 12:45:29] <MrHeavy> Volcane: Haven't even considered the load impact of that, I run Puppet manually | ||
| [2009/05/30 12:45:35] <MrHeavy> So thanks for that :) | ||
| [2009/05/30 12:45:54] <Volcane> yeah, yums a piece of shit mostly :) | ||
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| [2009/05/30 14:24:59] <Volcane> well if they dont come with more ips its useless, as it is i dont use my 8GB ram machines fully | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:25:02] <Volcane> oops... | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:35:30] <flashn> hmm, havent seen any facter recipes for package inventory | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:35:39] <flashn> dpkg -l || rpm -qa etc | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:37:17] <Volcane> yuk | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:38:12] <flashn> thought it would be like.. default, one of the things you really start with doing when it comes to provisioning | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:38:46] <Volcane> what do you want to do with these facts? | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:39:14] <tmz> flashn: it seems simpler to provision from a sane kickstart or preseed. then have puppet add/remove any packages you need to specifically manage. | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:40:12] <flashn> I usually use the inventory over packages to make sure nobody installs stuff locally in a cluster | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:40:50] <tmz> a large clue bat and restricted privileges probably handles that more gracefully. ;) | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:40:52] <flashn> to make sure all servers has the same libs, packages etc | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:41:15] <Volcane> and if you had these facts, how would you do this with puppet? | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:41:28] <Volcane> or do you wish to feed the facts into another system? | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:41:33] <flashn> I would populate a CMDB with the facts from puppet | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:41:36] <flashn> yeah | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:41:38] <Volcane> ah | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:41:44] <flashn> puppet will only be a component in the "larger" Setup | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:42:04] <Volcane> nods, not really sure adding 100s and 100s of facts is a great idea | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:43:32] <flashn> what about storing output of the "dpkg -l" into a file | ||
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| [2009/05/30 14:44:00] <flashn> and whenever the file changes, fetch it and read it into database | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:44:07] <Volcane> yeah, in my case i use puppet to setup a tool that runs from cron that sends it to my inventory tool daily | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:44:13] <Volcane> rather than abuse facts for that | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:44:19] <flashn> ah | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:45:15] <flashn> what about using a cron-script for that but still having a fact counting number of installed packages or something? | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:45:40] <flashn> would still have something regarding packages since the servers will be 100% managed by packages | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:46:16] <flashn> Ill think of something | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:46:25] <Volcane> will a package count really add value? you wouldnt know if someone updated a package unexpectadly | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:46:51] <flashn> yeah, I need to notify if the number of packages changes for servers that should be 100% identical | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:47:07] <flashn> I cant really rely on 100 technicians doing everything by the book | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:47:13] <flashn> not within a year or so | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:47:27] <Volcane> nods | ||
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| [2009/05/30 14:47:43] <Volcane> sounds like u need a robust inventory tracking tool, not really puppets remit | ||
| [2009/05/30 14:47:49] <flashn> they have never worked with automated management and stuff | ||
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| [2009/05/30 14:48:58] <flashn> as long as I can integrate it neatly | ||
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| [2009/05/30 15:13:09] <jrojas> flashn: someone posted some stuff on the mailing list for package audits.. | ||
| [2009/05/30 15:16:47] <jrojas> flashn: http://code.google.com/p/soxlinux/source/browse/#svn/trunk/RPMAudit | ||
| [2009/05/30 15:18:06] <flashn> Im reading some posts now about it, cool | ||
| [2009/05/30 15:18:48] <jrojas> :) | ||
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| [2009/05/30 15:41:01] <joe-mac> hmm these onlyifs for a couple execs i am using seem to be not evaluating or something after moving to .24.8... | ||
| [2009/05/30 15:42:57] <joe-mac> anybody see anything immediately wrong here? http://www.pastie.org/495151 | ||
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| [2009/05/30 15:44:29] <joe-mac> nm i am retarded | ||
| [2009/05/30 15:44:38] <joe-mac> facepalm | ||
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| [2009/05/30 16:50:44] <joe-mac> what is wuith the puppetshow.mov in the downloads dir on reductivelabs.com ? | ||
| [2009/05/30 16:50:48] <joe-mac> it looks pretty cool | ||
| [2009/05/30 16:51:01] <joe-mac> looks nothing like the screen shots in the pupeptshow wiki | ||
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| [2009/05/30 19:34:23] <cfreeze> Is there a way of forcing usermod to create a local system account rather than ldap when creating an user? | ||
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| [2009/05/30 19:43:27] <maek> cfreeze: isn't local the default? | ||
| [2009/05/30 19:50:19] <cfreeze> I would have thought | ||
| [2009/05/30 19:50:36] <maek> I have a few user adds that default to a system account | ||
| [2009/05/30 19:50:44] <cfreeze> Part of the problem is I found the user masked in ldap too | ||
| [2009/05/30 19:50:49] <maek> is it possible you are specify ldap some place else? | ||
| [2009/05/30 19:50:56] <cfreeze> removing that seems to have cleared up puppet's confusion | ||
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| [2009/05/30 23:26:43] <Guest54786> Is there a way to put something like require => Package["apache2"] on a class? so if I have 10 defines in a class I don't have to specify require on each one? | ||
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| [2009/05/30 23:43:35] <Guest54786> anyone? | ||
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