Saturday, 2009-05-23

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[2009/05/23 04:40:59] <jedi4ever> I'm wondering if it possible to set the environment= of a client using externalnodes. I read you can pass classes and parameters. Will environment= be considered as a parameter?
[2009/05/23 04:45:25] <ssm> you could probably use it to change the the environment setting in the clients
[2009/05/23 04:45:30] <ssm> ...
[2009/05/23 04:45:38] <ssm> puppet.conf generated from puppet
[2009/05/23 04:46:02] <ssm> Not sure if you can tell it to change environment any other way
[2009/05/23 04:46:19] <ssm> apart from using --environment=foo on the command line
[2009/05/23 04:48:17] <jedi4ever> Good thinking and cool idea: I could use a default neutral environment in the puppet.conf and then have a recipe change this depending on a parameter in the externalnodes
[2009/05/23 04:49:32] <jedi4ever> I'm using puppet with cobbler, so changing the parameter could promote a node to use a different set of recipes depending on the --ks-meta values passed on as parameters in the cobbler-externalnodes
[2009/05/23 04:49:59] <jedi4ever> i'll try this one. Thx ssm!
[2009/05/23 04:50:15] <ssm> good luck :)
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[2009/05/23 05:14:49] <nasrat> jamesturnbull: is the clone from github to reductivelabs.com automatic?
[2009/05/23 05:22:44] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: nope
[2009/05/23 05:23:00] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: I push to my repo, github and rl labs
[2009/05/23 05:23:24] <nasrat> looks like it nees
[2009/05/23 05:23:28] <nasrat> needs a push
[2009/05/23 05:23:40] <jamesturnbull> jedi4ever: you can pass the environment via an etxernal nodes script
[2009/05/23 05:23:59] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: which repo?
[2009/05/23 05:24:05] <nasrat> facter
[2009/05/23 05:24:38] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: git push --tags core master
[2009/05/23 05:24:39] <jamesturnbull> Enter passphrase for key '/home/james/.ssh/id_dsa':
[2009/05/23 05:24:39] <jamesturnbull> Everything up-to-date
[2009/05/23 05:24:54] <nasrat> hmm
[2009/05/23 05:25:10] <nasrat> git remote -v
[2009/05/23 05:25:10] <nasrat> origingit://reductivelabs.com/facter
[2009/05/23 05:25:26] <nasrat> git show
[2009/05/23 05:25:27] <nasrat> commit e95620215e9f645423d14bd54f16fcba75d90b29
[2009/05/23 05:25:27] <nasrat> Author: James Turnbull <james@lovedthanlost.net>
[2009/05/23 05:25:27] <nasrat> Date: Sun May 10 19:33:01 2009 +1000
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[2009/05/23 05:25:42] <nasrat> git pull
[2009/05/23 05:25:43] <nasrat> Already up-to-date.
[2009/05/23 05:27:23] <jamesturnbull> okay let me try a forke
[2009/05/23 05:27:24] <jamesturnbull> force
[2009/05/23 05:27:47] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: try it now
[2009/05/23 05:27:55] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: seemed to update something
[2009/05/23 05:28:40] <nasrat> yeah that seems updated
[2009/05/23 05:28:42] <nasrat> thanks
[2009/05/23 05:29:16] <jamesturnbull> weird that it didn't through a rejected error
[2009/05/23 05:29:19] <jamesturnbull> throw
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[2009/05/23 05:30:30] <nasrat> yeah I had to reclone
[2009/05/23 05:30:42] <jamesturnbull> teyo: welcome to belgium
[2009/05/23 05:31:20] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: git magic :)
[2009/05/23 05:32:03] <teyo> Yeah, I thought the hotel provided free wifi. 30 Euros for 10 hours of usage is steep.
[2009/05/23 05:32:34] <jamesturnbull> teyo: $50 - shit - that'll get expensive fast
[2009/05/23 05:34:24] <nasrat> teyo: you'll probably find a cafe/bar that has free wifi
[2009/05/23 05:35:09] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: Europe - so expensive - no wonder you lot don't want to be part of it
[2009/05/23 05:35:23] <nasrat> I'm already busy Wednesday else I could have been tempted to hop on the eurostar
[2009/05/23 05:35:40] <nasrat> jamesturnbull: depends where and what currency you're on
[2009/05/23 05:36:30] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: I should have added a :) - but if you're in AUS$ then it's bloody expensive
[2009/05/23 05:36:38] <jamesturnbull> both sterling and euros
[2009/05/23 05:38:25] <teyo> nasrat: yeah I am going to do some searching tomorrow when I get over the jet lag.
[2009/05/23 05:39:55] <nasrat> teyo: if you get any feedback about facter on the course I'd be really interested in hearing it
[2009/05/23 05:40:46] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: I've been thinking about facts htat namespaces make easier - users and group for example
[2009/05/23 05:40:58] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: though did we ever agree on a way to cte namedspaced facts?
[2009/05/23 05:41:19] <jamesturnbull> i.e $network:ipaddress:eth0
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[2009/05/23 05:44:37] <nasrat> well I think first cut has to preserve the current flattened names (which are _ delimited)
[2009/05/23 05:44:52] <nasrat> and get to the internal model
[2009/05/23 05:45:34] <jamesturnbull> nasrat: I agree
[2009/05/23 05:45:43] <jamesturnbull> wasn't suggesting we deprecate current facts
[2009/05/23 05:45:45] <jamesturnbull> that'd be a nightmare
[2009/05/23 05:45:48] <nasrat> yeah
[2009/05/23 05:45:51] <jamesturnbull> but we need to consider how to do it
[2009/05/23 05:46:18] <nasrat> I'll gather some thoughts on the design and post to list
[2009/05/23 05:46:32] <jamesturnbull> I am not a huge fan of the _
[2009/05/23 05:49:51] <nasrat> yeah that'll need revisiting but I'm thinking for 2.0
[2009/05/23 05:50:19] <jamesturnbull> yeah
[2009/05/23 05:50:23] <nasrat> we might change our primary output to be json/yaml and allow custom flattners
[2009/05/23 05:50:47] <jamesturnbull> I like that idea
[2009/05/23 05:51:07] <jamesturnbull> "flattners"? :)
[2009/05/23 05:52:24] <teyo> nasrat: I'll definitely provide feedback. This is an intro class so usually not that nuanced, but we will see.
[2009/05/23 05:52:35] <jamesturnbull> flatnner - nown, plural flatnners, from the High German flatnnervandernik, meaning a small hammer used to flatten schnitzel
[2009/05/23 05:53:30] <teyo> must nap. james, lets chat tomorrow about the wiki.
[2009/05/23 05:53:40] <jamesturnbull> k
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[2009/05/23 15:18:47] <joe-mac> anybody using puppet on openbsd? seeing that in 4.5 it's hanging on a select call. haven't yet figured out what is blocking it...
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[2009/05/23 15:19:46] <joe-mac> looks like it's waiting for a buffer to be filled from puppet master, never happens... it's .24.4, btu included with openbsd
[2009/05/23 15:21:11] <nico> joe-mac: checking my puppet client
[2009/05/23 15:22:30] <nico> joe-mac: works without any problem here
[2009/05/23 15:23:07] <nico> http://www.masterzen.fr/2009/05/23/puppet-and-jruby-a-love-and-hate-story/
[2009/05/23 15:25:23] <joe-mac> nico: are you on 4.5?
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[2009/05/23 15:31:52] <nico> joe-mac: yes
[2009/05/23 15:32:01] <nico> my firewalls are always up to date
[2009/05/23 15:32:23] <joe-mac> hmmm, waht version is your master?
[2009/05/23 15:32:32] <joe-mac> and you consme the puppet package from the OBSD packages tree?
[2009/05/23 15:32:44] <joe-mac> btw, thanks for the response OBSD usage is somewhat rare
[2009/05/23 15:37:16] <joe-mac> this sucks, hanging at a select in fileserver.describe...
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[2009/05/23 15:38:16] <joe-mac> my vm didn't have this problem, i'm wondering if it's the NIC, if it's a select on a socket, it's an nvidia card, which i hear isn't too good
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[2009/05/23 15:40:46] <nico> joe-mac: runnning the package version
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[2009/05/23 15:41:13] <nico> and puppetmaster is 0.24.8, because of bug #1095 :)
[2009/05/23 15:41:14] <gepetto_> nico: #1095 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/1095 "Puppet - Bug #1095: Puppetmaster leaving half-open connections - ReductiveLabs.com"
[2009/05/23 15:41:40] <nico> joe-mac: nvidia is not really the best stuff in NICs
[2009/05/23 15:43:26] <joe-mac> ugh i've been putting on building .24.8 buti think i need to move that to front burner statuis
[2009/05/23 15:43:50] <nico> debian packages here
[2009/05/23 15:44:32] <joe-mac> nico: i am on 8.04 LTS, you think that using the debian package for .24.8 would jive?
[2009/05/23 15:44:37] <joe-mac> (ubuntu)
[2009/05/23 15:44:39] <nico> hu
[2009/05/23 15:44:43] <joe-mac> .24.4 is all ubuntu hjas
[2009/05/23 15:44:46] <joe-mac> for 8.04
[2009/05/23 15:44:50] <nico> let me check something
[2009/05/23 15:44:52] <joe-mac> k
[2009/05/23 15:45:24] <nico> hum jaunty has 0.24.5 and karmic is 0.24.8
[2009/05/23 15:45:48] <nico> it's pretty shitty, let's say it
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[2009/05/23 15:47:23] <nico> joe-mac: when I was running 0.24.5 I did not see problems too
[2009/05/23 15:47:46] <nico> my openbsd were not puppetized before 0.24.5 puppetmaster
[2009/05/23 15:47:57] <joe-mac> :-(
[2009/05/23 15:48:06] <joe-mac> what resources do you manage with OBSD if you don't mind me asking?
[2009/05/23 15:48:16] <nico> let me check :)
[2009/05/23 15:50:23] <nico> dns, users, snmpd, sudo, puppet, ntp, munin, packages sources, some packages, pf config, relayd config & pptp things
[2009/05/23 15:53:33] <joe-mac> nico: question, do you mount your fs with the softdep option in obsd? wondering if the sync IO is what's causing puppet to shit itself
[2009/05/23 15:55:11] <nico> /dev/wd0a / ffs rw 1 1
[2009/05/23 15:55:47] <nico> nothing special, fully default
[2009/05/23 16:24:38] <joe-mac> nico: do you use bsd.mp or bsd?
[2009/05/23 16:27:27] <joe-mac> nope, that didn't solve it either heh
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[2009/05/23 16:48:34] <joe-mac> ios there a how-to on building a puppet package for debian>?
[2009/05/23 17:07:51] <tmz> joe-mac: there was a thread on puppet-users a month or so ago that meandered into how to build updated debian packages: http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/4f99e9df5453e33e
[2009/05/23 17:12:36] <joe-mac> thanks tmz
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[2009/05/23 19:02:04] <joe-mac> i'm upgrading to .24.8, rolling a deb right now
[2009/05/23 19:02:21] <joe-mac> pretty exciting thing to be doing saturday at 7 pm
[2009/05/23 19:02:22] <joe-mac> rofl
[2009/05/23 19:34:17] <Risar> lolz
[2009/05/23 19:34:28] <Risar> I'm studying for my ccie security.
[2009/05/23 19:34:31] <Risar> So +1
[2009/05/23 19:34:57] <agaffney> who is the maintainer of puppetview?
[2009/05/23 19:35:09] <agaffney> I just tried it out, and it's pretty neat
[2009/05/23 19:35:13] <agaffney> but I've got suggestions :P
[2009/05/23 19:35:46] <agaffney> and can actually write patches for said suggestions :P
[2009/05/23 19:37:08] <Risar> http://www.devco.net/pubwiki/Puppet/PuppetView
[2009/05/23 19:38:35] <agaffney> I didn't see the name of the maintainer there
[2009/05/23 19:38:37] <agaffney> maybe I just missed it
[2009/05/23 19:40:33] <joe-mac> Risar: wow sounds fun, isn't that like a three day exam?
[2009/05/23 19:40:55] <Risar> Yeah, I dont think he has it listed on the site, the name is RIPienaar
[2009/05/23 19:41:52] <Risar> I'd either try RIPienaar@devco.net or perhaps one of the social sites his name shows on. ::shrug::
[2009/05/23 19:41:54] <joe-mac> yea that's Volcane
[2009/05/23 19:42:57] <agaffney> joe-mac: ahhh...now I remember that :P
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[2009/05/23 19:43:34] <Risar> good call joe-mac
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[2009/05/23 19:43:39] * agaffney waits for his 15th server to appear in the puppetview list
[2009/05/23 19:44:57] <Risar> and the lab is 8 hours joe-mac , plus a written component.
[2009/05/23 19:45:31] <Risar> I expect its at least 9 months out for me since I'm really just starting to get back into the networking aspect of things.
[2009/05/23 19:45:32] <joe-mac> jesus christ
[2009/05/23 19:45:44] <joe-mac> networking hurts my brain
[2009/05/23 19:46:19] <agaffney> heh
[2009/05/23 19:49:13] <Risar> lolz
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[2009/05/23 20:10:11] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: 0.24.8 works fine on 8.04 - I rolled my own for it
[2009/05/23 20:11:13] <joe-mac> jamesturnbull: yea i did it and want to apply it but i can't get apt to sign the package with my gpg key, i added a line to ~/.devscripts to use it, but it's not seeing it
[2009/05/23 20:15:21] <joe-mac> i mean, deb, whatever the hell you want to call it lol
[2009/05/23 20:15:30] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: joe-mac you used apt-key add?
[2009/05/23 20:15:49] <joe-mac> hm, i thought i just point it at my gpg key, i'll man apt-key, thanks
[2009/05/23 20:16:42] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: or do you mean when you are building the deb?
[2009/05/23 20:17:09] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: in which case look at debsign and ... ummm debsign-verify I think
[2009/05/23 20:17:43] <joe-mac> i am building the deb with dpkg-buildpackage, and i saw in the deb docs to add a line to .devscripts in your home with your gpg key
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[2009/05/23 20:19:12] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: yeah I'd be questionable about that working ... that other command oyu might try to play with is debsigs - I thin kthat's also on Ubuntu
[2009/05/23 20:19:35] <joe-mac> yea i think i need to dpkg-reconfigure -k mykeyid
[2009/05/23 20:20:02] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: http://www.digipedia.pl/man/debsigs.1p.html
[2009/05/23 20:21:02] * jamesturnbull is secretly of the opinion the world should just have one damn packaging system and as long as it isn't gems he's happy with pretty much everything else
[2009/05/23 20:23:26] <joe-mac> yea dpkg-buildpackage -k
[2009/05/23 20:23:33] * tmz suggests python eggs as the 'One True Package System' to jamesturnbull... and then hides :)
[2009/05/23 20:36:20] <jamesturnbull> tmz: okay I stand corrected gems and python eggs :P - actually someone did write an egg provider for Puppet package - must chase that up
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[2009/05/23 21:06:48] <joe-mac> Failed to retrieve current state of resource: can't convert nil into String Could not describe /plugins: <--- can somebody tell me why /plugins is coming up with an error even though i don't have a section for it in puppet.conf
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[2009/05/23 21:15:25] <joe-mac> so, if you set puppet to listen = true, port 8139, only communication goes over this channel correct?
[2009/05/23 21:19:04] <joe-mac> nico: hey FYI, we fixed the issue with OBSD puppet by upgrading our master to .24.8
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[2009/05/23 23:51:14] <cowbud> just started setting up my own puppetmaster with one client and I am testing deployment of /etc/passwd. I assume that if I change anything in my modules/files directory it will be syncd but that does not seem to be the case..
[2009/05/23 23:51:21] <cowbud> is there something I am missing?
[2009/05/23 23:51:42] <cowbud> this is very directly based off of the sudo class/module as described in the documentation
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