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[2009/05/16 09:06:58] <blahdeblah> Hi. I'm trying to do some simple file edits with puppet, and i'm obviously not understanding something.
[2009/05/16 09:06:58] <blahdeblah> Here's my class: http://rafb.net/p/JhcGMI73.html
[2009/05/16 09:07:14] <blahdeblah> Here's the definition of my replace_lines function: http://rafb.net/p/RYPMzZ23.html
[2009/05/16 09:07:51] <blahdeblah> I want to put replace_lines in a file on its own - how can i include it so that it works in the position it's currently in in the snmp class?
[2009/05/16 09:11:43] <Volcane> something in site.pp should include it typically
[2009/05/16 09:12:02] <Volcane> so put it in a directory defines and just do include "defines/*.pp" or something like that
[2009/05/16 09:15:27] <blahdeblah> Volcane: what is defines?
[2009/05/16 09:15:36] <blahdeblah> I don't have that directory
[2009/05/16 09:16:36] <blahdeblah> I've got it in modules/simpletext/init.pp at present, with "import simpletext" in manifests/modules.pp - shouldn't that do it?
[2009/05/16 09:16:52] <Volcane> its a directory of your choice, wherever u think it will make sense to you
[2009/05/16 09:17:19] <Volcane> if you have a module simpletext then the define should be simpletext::replace_lines for that to work
[2009/05/16 09:17:29] <blahdeblah> ah
[2009/05/16 09:17:34] <Volcane> then u can put it in init.pp in the module yes
[2009/05/16 09:18:42] <blahdeblah> the sample classes i've seen (e.g. resolver) put their defines outside the class definition
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[2009/05/16 09:33:59] <blahdeblah> I've just realise that i was calling the function completely wrongly anyway
[2009/05/16 09:34:02] <blahdeblah> realised
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[2009/05/16 09:34:21] <blahdeblah> Now all i have to do is get the replace_lines function actually working...
[2009/05/16 09:34:25] <blahdeblah> Thanks for the help Volcane
[2009/05/16 09:41:15] <blahdeblah> Solved - it really helps if i get the sed syntax correct. :-/
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[2009/05/16 09:46:40] <kelseyhightower> errors using puppet 0.25 beta on RHEL5 using rpms
[2009/05/16 09:46:44] <kelseyhightower> Cached certificate_revocation_list for ca failed: Cannot manage the CRL when :cacrl is set to false
[2009/05/16 09:46:54] <kelseyhightower> Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from s: Cannot manage the CRL when :cacrl is set to fals
[2009/05/16 09:47:02] <kelseyhightower> any ideas?
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[2009/05/16 09:56:54] <gepetto> ::trac:: Downloading Puppet edited by tmz @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/DownloadingPuppet (by tmz+puppet@pobox.com)
[2009/05/16 10:17:30] <kelseyhightower> not sure which entry to add, but removing my puppet.conf gets me past this problem
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[2009/05/16 10:29:46] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: ping
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[2009/05/16 10:31:27] <monzie_> help needed on http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-dev/browse_thread/thread/cb67f8733e7382f7# please!
[2009/05/16 10:33:34] <monzie_> what is luke's IRC handle?
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[2009/05/16 10:37:36] <maek> kelseyhightower: that has something to do with certificate revocation list, if thats of any help.
[2009/05/16 10:38:55] <kelseyhightower> had to add the following line
[2009/05/16 10:38:57] <kelseyhightower> cacrl = /etc/puppet/ssl/crl.pem
[2009/05/16 10:39:03] <kelseyhightower> to /etc/puppet.conf
[2009/05/16 10:39:06] <kelseyhightower> works now
[2009/05/16 10:39:26] <kelseyhightower> Having a problem with puppetrun --host=hostname
[2009/05/16 10:39:42] <kelseyhightower> Host gray.jericho.gov failed: Wrong type NilClass. Not allowed! gray.jericho.gov finished with exit code 2 Failed: gray.jericho.gov
[2009/05/16 10:44:05] <kelseyhightower> I see Bug #2243 relates to my puppetrun issue
[2009/05/16 10:44:06] <gepetto> kelseyhightower: #2243 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2243 "Puppet - Bug #2243: puppetrun fails with Wrong type NilClass - ReductiveLabs.com"
[2009/05/16 10:45:40] <kelseyhightower> gepetto: yeah just found it
[2009/05/16 10:45:59] <kelseyhightower> any work arounds yet?
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[2009/05/16 11:09:00] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: pong
[2009/05/16 11:09:16] <monzie_> wanted to discuss about the mail thread......
[2009/05/16 11:11:14] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: sure
[2009/05/16 11:11:41] <jamesturnbull> kelseyhightower: gepetto is a bot
[2009/05/16 11:13:08] <jamesturnbull> kelseyhightower: we'll have a fix for that for beta2
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[2009/05/16 11:22:46] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-dev/browse_thread/thread/cb67f8733e7382f7#
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[2009/05/16 11:23:54] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: yes
[2009/05/16 11:24:14] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: how do you suggest I got about doing it?? any ideas.... ?
[2009/05/16 11:26:55] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: well since I don't think you're making the right implementation choice I'm probably not the best person to ask :) I'm also not a guru with providers - most of mine are very simple - I'd recommend pinging lak when he is about
[2009/05/16 11:27:06] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: he'll answer email fairly quickly on the -dev list
[2009/05/16 11:27:12] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: seen lak
[2009/05/16 11:27:12] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: lak was last seen 9 hours, 48 minutes and 3 seconds ago, quitting IRC ()
[2009/05/16 11:27:36] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: did bgupta's response to thread not convince you?
[2009/05/16 11:27:50] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: if no, can you just help me with instantiating the parsedfile stuff?
[2009/05/16 11:28:55] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: nope - I don't see why it has to be a service provider - I'd just create a monit type and let service do what it does best - manage services
[2009/05/16 11:28:59] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: I looked at your error
[2009/05/16 11:29:15] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: ok. let me be more precise...
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[2009/05/16 11:29:49] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: lets say I want to define some method in some provider.. which neess to write to a file... how do I do that without making the entire type inherit from parsedfile?
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[2009/05/16 11:30:30] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: well parsedfile is just a helper
[2009/05/16 11:30:44] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: write a method to writes to the file
[2009/05/16 11:30:47] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: directly
[2009/05/16 11:30:55] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: what's the best way to do it.. i want to use parsedfile's record_line directly...
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[2009/05/16 11:32:17] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: not sure you can do that without inheriting the type
[2009/05/16 11:32:48] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: another reason I wanted to use the parsedfile is that it gives me nice semantics ( and I think) uses filebucket internally
[2009/05/16 11:33:01] <monzie_> directly using Ruby would require me to do all that groundwork manually
[2009/05/16 11:33:08] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: yeah hence why lak wrote it
[2009/05/16 11:33:21] <monzie_> anyway to utilize that... ?
[2009/05/16 11:33:31] <monzie_> i want to reuse as much code as possible
[2009/05/16 11:33:47] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: it's not designed to be used without that inheritance I think - let me take a quick look
[2009/05/16 11:34:51] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: ok
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[2009/05/16 11:35:19] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: no looks like it can only be instantiated as a parent class
[2009/05/16 11:35:32] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: but lak should confirm that - he may know some magic I don't
[2009/05/16 11:36:21] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: I guess it would be a good idea to ping lak when he is around
[2009/05/16 11:36:35] <monzie_> do you know when he's likely to be here.. given that it is a weekend there.....
[2009/05/16 11:36:58] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: it varies - he tries to spend the weekend with the kinder
[2009/05/16 11:37:16] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: ok. I'll try to catch up with him on monday morning US time....
[2009/05/16 11:37:38] <jamesturnbull> but he does check the -dev list regularly - I'd be surprised if he doesn't respond Sunday US time
[2009/05/16 11:38:04] <monzie_> ok.. both my queries are on the list.. i'll keep an eye out
[2009/05/16 11:38:13] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: as always, thanks so much for helping me out :)
[2009/05/16 11:38:29] <jamesturnbull> monzie_: no worries - sorry I couldn't be more help
[2009/05/16 11:38:48] <monzie_> jamesturnbull: have a nice weekend ,.. bye!
[2009/05/16 11:38:59] <jamesturnbull> bye
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[2009/05/16 11:40:45] * jamesturnbull is off to sleep - way too late here - bye all
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[2009/05/16 15:41:56] <comprehensive> hi
[2009/05/16 15:45:31] <comprehensive> is there a way to define a group of nodes in puppet?
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[2009/05/16 19:13:45] <dsch04> Can I get a bit of help with ssl certs
[2009/05/16 19:13:45] <dsch04> ?
[2009/05/16 19:14:58] <dsch04> I'm running puppetmaster on a001.private.example.com
[2009/05/16 19:15:13] <dsch04> I have a cname defined as puppet.private.example.com
[2009/05/16 19:15:55] <dsch04> When I start puppetmaster, it generates a cert for a001.private.example.com
[2009/05/16 19:16:10] <dsch04> How do I get it to generate one for puppet.private.example.com ?
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[2009/05/16 19:16:56] <sdodson> dsch04: Set certname in your config?
[2009/05/16 19:16:59] <agaffney> dsch04: there's a 'certname' option
[2009/05/16 19:17:05] <dsch04> Ah, OK
[2009/05/16 19:17:50] <dsch04> Where's that documented?
[2009/05/16 19:21:44] <agaffney> puppetmasterd --genconfig | less
[2009/05/16 19:22:54] <agaffney> also, http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ConfigurationReference#certname
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[2009/05/16 20:05:27] <dsch04> agaffney: Thanks
[2009/05/16 20:05:57] <dsch04> Can I use variables in files?
[2009/05/16 20:06:40] <dsch04> For example, say I want to install ssmtp on all hosts, and in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp/conf, I want to set:
[2009/05/16 20:07:14] <dsch04> root=admin-${hostname}@example.com
[2009/05/16 20:07:36] <dsch04> How can I do that?
[2009/05/16 20:08:02] <dsch04> ${hostname} should be replaced by the actual hostname of the target machine
[2009/05/16 20:08:11] <jamesturnbull> dsch04: templates
[2009/05/16 20:08:28] <jamesturnbull> dsch04: wiki:PippetTemplating
[2009/05/16 20:08:36] <dsch04> s/i/u/ ?
[2009/05/16 20:08:39] <jamesturnbull> dsch04: wiki:PuppetTemplating
[2009/05/16 20:08:40] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: dsch04: wiki:PuppetTemplating is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetTemplating
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[2009/05/16 20:10:20] <dsch04> OK, thanks. I'll have a dig around with that
[2009/05/16 20:10:54] <jamesturnbull> dsch04: also there are two or three ssmtp modules from memory - someone may have already done the hard yards for you
[2009/05/16 20:11:04] <dsch04> Ah, that would be nice
[2009/05/16 20:11:56] <dsch04> Where can I find such things?
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[2009/05/16 20:12:12] <jamesturnbull> dsch04: http://www.example42.com/browser/ssmtp
[2009/05/16 20:13:02] <jamesturnbull> dsch04: also see the module collections at wiki:PuppetModules
[2009/05/16 20:13:04] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: dsch04: wiki:PuppetModules is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetModules
[2009/05/16 20:14:36] <jamesturnbull> dsch04: also my book might interest you - http://tinyurl.com/puppetbook
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[2009/05/16 20:14:57] <dsch04> Got it :)
[2009/05/16 20:15:04] <jamesturnbull> dsch04: cool
[2009/05/16 20:15:22] <dsch04> puppet is something I've played with, but never bottomed out
[2009/05/16 20:15:29] <dsch04> I do have quite a nice yum module
[2009/05/16 20:15:55] <dsch04> Just got a new gig which will involve deploying/managing quite a few servers
[2009/05/16 20:16:12] <jamesturnbull> ah yes nothing like too much to do to motivate learning :)
[2009/05/16 20:16:14] <dsch04> So, am brushing up on my kickstart/cobbler/puppet foo
[2009/05/16 20:16:26] <jamesturnbull> I am a big Cobbler fan
[2009/05/16 20:16:47] <dsch04> Yeah, it's pretty vool
[2009/05/16 20:16:49] <dsch04> *cool
[2009/05/16 20:17:12] <jamesturnbull> Mike is a smart cookie
[2009/05/16 20:17:15] <dsch04> Esp. with a xen host, and using koan
[2009/05/16 20:17:28] <dsch04> He is indeed. A bit abrasive occiasionally, but pretty switched on
[2009/05/16 20:17:41] <dsch04> Must get to meet him sometime
[2009/05/16 20:17:55] <jamesturnbull> Abrasive? In IT? In open source? Never.... :P
[2009/05/16 20:18:00] <dsch04> Heh
[2009/05/16 20:18:16] <dsch04> Fortunately, I was brought up on the qmail list
[2009/05/16 20:18:25] <dsch04> So I can handle anything ;)
[2009/05/16 20:18:44] <jamesturnbull> for me it was the maildrop list
[2009/05/16 20:18:57] <dsch04> Ah, yes, what was the guys name...
[2009/05/16 20:19:01] <jamesturnbull> Sam V
[2009/05/16 20:19:06] <jamesturnbull> Courier developer
[2009/05/16 20:19:08] <dsch04> Varshavik, that;'s the one
[2009/05/16 20:19:18] <dsch04> Heh, same school
[2009/05/16 20:19:29] <jamesturnbull> yeah - RTFM you fucking moron :)
[2009/05/16 20:19:35] <jamesturnbull> excuse my french
[2009/05/16 20:19:48] <dsch04> Heh, that's if he's having a *good* day
[2009/05/16 20:20:34] <dsch04> So, hopefully, between cobbler + puppet, I shouldn't have a lot to do
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[2009/05/16 20:21:36] <dsch04> minimal OS install with cobbler, which runs puppet in post-install
[2009/05/16 20:22:32] <jamesturnbull> sounds good - well any cool modules - github or a repo online are always welcomed - and there is a lot of doco on Cobbler/Koan/Puppet deployments out there so if you happen to write something up or a blog post or the like then feel free to drop me a line and I'll add it to doco
[2009/05/16 20:22:44] <jamesturnbull> s/not a lot/
[2009/05/16 20:22:57] <dsch04> Will do
[2009/05/16 20:23:05] * jamesturnbull is off to shave his head for Buddha's name day
[2009/05/16 20:23:07] <jamesturnbull> later all
[2009/05/16 20:23:14] <dsch04> cya
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