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| [2009/05/02 07:03:39] <blahdeblah> Hi. What is the preferred idiomatic equivalent to grep in puppet? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:04:26] <blahdeblah> I want to do something like "if grep ^control_d$ /proc/sys/xen/capabilities { do something for dom0 ... }" | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:07:57] <blahdeblah> (Actually, it's /proc/xen/capabilities, but that doesn't change the question) | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:15:53] <blahdeblah> And i wouldn't be asking this question if the $virtual fact returned something different in a Xen dom0 vs a domU. Is there anything i can do about that? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:16:27] <Cuchulain> you can fix facter to report it correctly | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:16:46] <blahdeblah> how? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:16:57] <blahdeblah> I'm a bit of a newb with puppet | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:17:03] <Cuchulain> facter is written in ruby | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:17:12] <Cuchulain> and it should be pretty obvious | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:17:28] <blahdeblah> what should be obvious? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:17:43] <Cuchulain> how to fix it | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:17:55] <Cuchulain> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/facter/virtual.rb | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:18:08] <Cuchulain> hrm | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:18:26] <Cuchulain> and it already attempts to distinguish between xenu and xen0 | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:18:34] <Cuchulain> which version of facter are you running? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:18:35] <blahdeblah> Yeah - just reading my copy | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:18:47] <blahdeblah> However it's definitely reporting it wrongly | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:19:08] <Cuchulain> if /proc/sys/xen/independent_wallclock doesn't exist, it'll fall through to the next test | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:19:15] <Cuchulain> well, for what i'm looking at | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:19:33] <blahdeblah> The file /proc/sys/xen/independent_wallclock exists on my dom0 | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:19:46] <Cuchulain> uh, really? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:19:53] <blahdeblah> yes, really | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:19:55] <Cuchulain> that's new | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:20:03] <blahdeblah> debian lenny - stock install | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:20:13] <Cuchulain> yeah, i havne't looked at this for ages | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:20:16] <Cuchulain> i wrote that test a few years ago | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:20:26] <Cuchulain> and it's the only thing i've actually really contributed to puppet/facter | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:20:48] <Cuchulain> (to be correct: I wrote *a* test that did this, I can't guarantee it's my test that's in facter now) | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:21:37] <blahdeblah> This works for me: http://rafb.net/p/f6DBWq53.html | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:23:04] <blahdeblah> Actually, this would probably be better: http://rafb.net/p/wdlg6M46.html | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:23:04] <blahdeblah> Where can i send a proposed patch to? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:23:59] <blahdeblah> I've got NO chance of getting that into Debian stable, though, so i'm not sure there's much point | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:25:04] <Cuchulain> um, there's a puppet mailing list | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:25:11] <Cuchulain> etc | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:25:22] <Cuchulain> i'm really not very active | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:25:37] <blahdeblah> The users list seems to be reasonably active | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:25:49] <Cuchulain> the second patch looks better | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:25:59] <blahdeblah> yeah | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:26:15] <blahdeblah> I realised it was more likely to work correctly on both Xen versions | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:26:20] <Cuchulain> yeo | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:26:23] <Cuchulain> bbl | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:27:36] <blahdeblah> Looks like it's already reported: http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2169 | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:35:44] <Cuchulain> go go jamesturnbull :) | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:36:11] <jamesturnbull> Cuchulain: blahdeblah it'll go into RC2 for Facter 1.5.5 | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:37:03] <blahdeblah> Actually, it looks like #2169 is a duplicate of http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/1558 | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:37:04] <gepetto> blahdeblah: Actually: #2169 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2169 "Facter - Bug #2169: xen domu/dom0 fact broken on new xen kernels - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:38:26] <blahdeblah> Anyway, all that doesn't answer my original question, which is what the idiomatic equivalent to grep is... Anyone? | ||
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| [2009/05/02 07:50:41] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: Cuchulain just looking at that code - I don't use Xen but why the two tests? Would both files that return xenu be present? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:51:59] <blahdeblah> jamesturnbull: My Xen dom0 (the host) has both files present (/proc/sys/xen/independent_wallclock AND /proc/xen/capabilities) | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:52:37] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: so why two tests? should I check for BOTH or an OR or one of them? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:52:59] <blahdeblah> jamesturnbull: the domU (the VM) has both also - the only difference is the content of the /proc/xen/capabilities | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:53:19] <blahdeblah> I imagine the test worked well on an older version of Xen, and maximum compatibility should be preserved with that version | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:53:31] <blahdeblah> The test in #1558 looks for THREE files. | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:53:32] <gepetto> blahdeblah: #1558 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/1558 "Facter - Bug #1558: factor 1.5.1 virtual fact not correct for a xen dom0 - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:53:32] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: no I mean /sys/bus/xen and the wallclock file | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:53:43] <blahdeblah> jamesturnbull: Let me check | ||
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| [2009/05/02 07:55:00] <blahdeblah> My dom0 and domU both have /sys/bus/xen, with slightly different contents | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:55:23] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: is wallclock present on both? | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:55:30] <blahdeblah> Yes | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:55:53] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: so that test is pointless | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:56:15] <blahdeblah> Maybe, but i can't speak for all versions of Xen | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:56:29] <blahdeblah> The cost of such tests is so low that IMO they're better left in there | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:56:56] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: not the point - it's not accurate | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:57:26] <jamesturnbull> the test for the presence of /sys/bus/xen or wallclock DON'T guarantee it's a xenu | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:58:18] <blahdeblah> Yeah | ||
| [2009/05/02 07:58:55] <blahdeblah> Apart from Bart Cortooms' issue, your most recent proposed patch looks fine to me... | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:00:03] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: not correct though | ||
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| [2009/05/02 08:04:06] <blahdeblah> I'm not following you very well, so i'll take your word for it. The changed code in #2169 works for me, FWIW. | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:04:07] <gepetto> blahdeblah: #2169 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2169 "Facter - Bug #2169: xen domu/dom0 fact broken on new xen kernels - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:04:20] <blahdeblah> That gepetto bot is starting to get on my nerves | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:04:31] <blahdeblah> :-) | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:04:54] <fujin> http://github.com/opscode/ohai/blob/80db03453d95e83737727be8e1ad0fcb27c1792a/lib/ohai/plugins/linux/virtualization.rb#L25 | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:05:00] <fujin> jamesturnbull: ^ | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:05:03] <fujin> o hai, btw | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:05:32] <blahdeblah> And i would really appreciate it if someone would like to tell me about the preferred puppet equivalent of grep! :-) | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:06:41] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: well there isn't really a grep as such | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:06:59] <blahdeblah> That's why i said preferred equivalent... | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:07:07] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: if $fact == 'value' then do blah | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:07:19] <blahdeblah> And how do i get $fact from a file? | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:07:29] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: or if $variable == 'value' | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:07:50] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: create a fact that greps the file ocntent into a fact wiki:AddingFacts | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:07:51] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: blahdeblah: wiki:AddingFacts is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/AddingFacts | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:08:00] <jamesturnbull> fujin: thanks mate - I will take a look | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:08:04] <jamesturnbull> fujin: congrats on your new job btw | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:08:25] <blahdeblah> jamesturnbull: So i have to do it within facter, not puppet? | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:08:25] <fujin> indeed, thanks! | ||
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| [2009/05/02 08:08:47] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: well you can use the generate function - but that only looks at files on the master not the puppets | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:09:04] <blahdeblah> hrm | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:09:12] <jamesturnbull> fujin: moving from NZ? | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:09:18] <jamesturnbull> fujin: or working remote? | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:09:21] <fujin> nope, working remotely | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:09:27] <fujin> may move to seattle eventually | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:10:08] <blahdeblah> jamesturnbull: What about all those functions that can do stuff like edit a file with sed if a line is missing (simple text in the wiki)? Can't i use something like that to return a result if a value is in a file? | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:13:29] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: yeah you could probably hack something | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:13:36] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: but I think a fact would be much simpler | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:13:55] <blahdeblah> Are there any good examples of functions that return something in the wiki? | ||
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| [2009/05/02 08:14:21] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: they aren't "functions" - functions execute on the master | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:14:57] <blahdeblah> I'm really very new at this, and the learning curve takes a steep jump between the entry level stuff and the "CompleteConfiguration" page. | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:15:21] <blahdeblah> I've got a big list of things i want to do with puppet, and i'm still really trying to understand the puppet way of doing things. | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:15:51] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: okay - I have a book I prepared earlier that might help - http://tinyurl.com/puppetbook | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:16:19] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: also wiki:SimplestPuppetInstallRecipe | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:16:20] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: blahdeblah: wiki:SimplestPuppetInstallRecipe is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/SimplestPuppetInstallRecipe | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:16:29] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: and wiki:AdvancedPuppetRecipe | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:16:30] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: blahdeblah: wiki:AdvancedPuppetRecipe is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/AdvancedPuppetRecipe | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:18:28] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: also Volcane has a guide he can point you at | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:18:44] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: or http://www.kanarip.com/courses/puppet/ | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:18:46] <blahdeblah> jamesturnbull: I've read those two recipes already - several times through | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:19:19] <blahdeblah> The big jump in learning curve starts just after the AdvancedPuppetRecipe! :-) | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:19:34] <blahdeblah> In fact, finding the next place to go from there was a big issue for me. | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:20:01] <blahdeblah> jamesturnbull: Is your book in any stores in .au? | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:20:08] <blahdeblah> Or is it only online? | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:20:33] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: not sure - unlikely woodslane.com.au stock it - or Amazon or Borders or ebook etc | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:22:15] @ fdz is now known as francois | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:23:47] <blahdeblah> jamesturnbull: http://www.woodslane.com.au/woodslane/searchresults.asp?isbn=1590599780 - high premium for buying dead trees in .au... :-( | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:25:45] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: blame the Dems for adding GST to books | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:25:52] <blahdeblah> :-) | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:26:15] <jamesturnbull> blahdeblah: buy the ebook - it's very cheap - if you like Dead Trees then Amazon is quick and reasonably cheap | ||
| [2009/05/02 08:26:47] * blahdeblah is a big fan of dead trees | ||
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| [2009/05/02 09:25:11] * Volcane wonders if blahdeblah is the same person as the other blah*blah person | ||
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| [2009/05/02 09:28:25] <jamesturnbull> Volcane: why? | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:28:52] <Volcane> ah just curious, other one seems intent on just ignore all advice | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:29:04] <jamesturnbull> Volcane: hmmm this guy did much the same | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:29:22] <Volcane> ie. not using exec{"/etc/init.d/foo restart": } on each run rather than use service | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:29:30] <Volcane> just cos he does *everything* with execs | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:29:41] <Volcane> not setting directories correctly, instead exec'ing chmod -R's | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:29:47] <Volcane> then moaning that puppets not working well for him, etc | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:29:53] <jamesturnbull> interesting approach | ||
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| [2009/05/02 09:32:50] <Volcane> and like, if you're finding you're needing to chown -R your munin output directories | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:32:57] <Volcane> then perhaps u need to just set munin up properly | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:33:15] <Volcane> but he wont listen :) | ||
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| [2009/05/02 09:51:37] <gepetto> ::trac:: Whos Using Puppet edited by immerda @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/WhosUsingPuppet (by puppet@immerda.ch) | ||
| [2009/05/02 09:51:37] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet Modules edited by immerda @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetModules (by puppet@immerda.ch) | ||
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| [2009/05/02 11:08:31] <DavidS> woot :) | ||
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| [2009/05/02 11:27:08] <sts> hello folks! is there a way to include another erb template from within a template? like render partial? | ||
| [2009/05/02 11:31:06] <DavidS> sts: you could probably just call/create another ERB instance with ruby. But I've got no clue how that would work, and you'd have to lookup the template file | ||
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| [2009/05/02 11:48:04] <sts> garr :) | ||
| [2009/05/02 11:48:27] <sts> that would be pretty usefull to include maintainable config snippets. | ||
| [2009/05/02 11:48:33] <sts> eg. for the virtual host.. | ||
| [2009/05/02 11:50:27] <sts> i'd like to do something like - i've defined a vhost function which creates a vhost config from my erb template. and based on several parameters it changes the config. eg. include a new section that requires http auth, or sets specific paramerts. | ||
| [2009/05/02 11:56:42] <francois> sts: why not use includes in your Apache configuration ? | ||
| [2009/05/02 11:58:02] <francois> we usually create a config directory for each vhost | ||
| [2009/05/02 11:58:25] <francois> and then "Include /var/www/blah.com/conf/*.conf" in VirtualHost configuration | ||
| [2009/05/02 12:01:01] <sts> well, thats a workaround IMHO. i want to be able to do it better. ;-) | ||
| [2009/05/02 12:01:20] <sts> there gotta be a way ;) | ||
| [2009/05/02 12:03:05] <francois> well, if find this way pretty cool because you can manage everything using simple resources instead of a huge apache::vhost resource | ||
| [2009/05/02 12:03:36] <francois> but, umm, your mileage may vary ;) | ||
| [2009/05/02 12:04:24] <francois> you could have a look at this module, if you're interested | ||
| [2009/05/02 12:04:25] <francois> http://github.com/camptocamp/puppet-apache/tree/master | ||
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| [2009/05/02 12:33:12] <gepetto> ::trac:: Recipes/Zabbix Agent edited by sylvester_0 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/ZabbixAgent | ||
| [2009/05/02 12:33:12] <gepetto> ::trac:: Recipes/Zabbix Agent edited by sylvester_0 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/ZabbixAgent | ||
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| [2009/05/02 13:49:42] <sts> does puppet implement any more complex types than a simple array? | ||
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| [2009/05/02 14:12:36] <joe-mac> no complex data structures | ||
| [2009/05/02 14:12:56] <joe-mac> sts ^^ | ||
| [2009/05/02 14:13:06] <joe-mac> i'm off to the coffee shop | ||
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| [2009/05/02 19:23:23] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm running puppet for essentially the first time on a server - and it keeps just 'hanging' at random points. I can stop the puppet task, then reboot the puppetmaster server and puppet client server and restart but it will hang again at a different point. Is there something I can do to prevent this behavior? | ||
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