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| [2009/05/01 05:53:26] <fluxdude> is luke kanies around or does he often come here? | ||
| [2009/05/01 05:54:18] <fluxdude> I raised a feature request for a directory cleanout which he rejected, but I raised that ticket because I tried recurse and purge and force together but it didn't work for me, it didn't remove an extra file I placed there... | ||
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| [2009/05/01 05:54:54] <fluxdude> also, if I have to do a recurse and purge and force with ignore, then I cannot set permissions on the directory otherwise it'll flatten other resources underneath it with those permissions? | ||
| [2009/05/01 05:56:38] <fluxdude> I think puppet is usually smart enough to defer to more specific resources...? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 06:03:20] <phantez> fluxdude: luke (lak) comes often here, but I think you should re-open the ticket with an explicit example that doesn't work | ||
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| [2009/05/01 06:03:53] <fluxdude> i'm just double checking this... | ||
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| [2009/05/01 06:04:21] <phantez> fluxdude: it will be easier for us to help us by finding the good way to handle it, and/or validate the feature/bug(if purge doesn't work). | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:04:32] <phantez> to help you | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:04:45] <fluxdude> i have a utility define for dir which I now need to put ignore in the parameter list, any ideas how I can just tell the define to use the ignore defined in my master File definition from site.pp? | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:06:03] <fluxdude> otherwise I have to define the same ignore again in the my util.pp as in my site.pp which seems bad practice and prone to errors if I ever change site.pp and forget to change util.pp... | ||
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| [2009/05/01 06:08:24] <phantez> I'm not good enough in puppet syntax to answer you wisely, but if you stay on the chan I'm sure someone will be able to answer you. | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:11:30] <phantez> you can post a message on the user puppet mailing list too | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:21:06] <barn> this will sound dumb, but is there a way to do something like a foreach in a class? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 06:21:23] <barn> I'm making munin/postgres plugins, and I want to do them for a number of databases | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:21:57] <barn> so I tried pg_foo{ foo: ensure=>present, dbname => [ "db1","db2"] } but that didn't do what I wanted | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:22:09] <barn> I'm probably going about this in entirely the wrong way | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:24:07] <JD__> I always feel so bad when I ghost people | ||
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| [2009/05/01 06:24:47] <JD> but hey, shit happens :) | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:25:08] <JD> what's the general consensus on create database users and databases? | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:25:46] <fluxdude> I can't see how to open a ticket that luke rejected... | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:26:05] <fluxdude> turns out that using purge etc in a dir config doesn't work for me, probably because i'm not specifying a source. | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:26:11] <fluxdude> need to elaborate on what I want. | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:26:55] <fluxdude> I am not using a simple directory recurse copy over, i have other puppet resources putting things under this dir, the dir definition is simply there to ensure the right permissions and that the dir exists... | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:27:15] <fluxdude> I want to set the dir definition to delete anything under it that is not managed as another puppet resource... | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:27:39] <fluxdude> i think this is quite different to simply copy over a directory tree and then delete what isn't on the source, which is simply rsync. | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:29:01] <fluxdude> sorry got logged out, can re-open the ticket... | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:36:43] <f3ew> JD, databases and database users are one-offs | ||
| [2009/05/01 06:36:50] <f3ew> We currently do it via an exec | ||
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| [2009/05/01 06:50:58] <zeroXten> is it normal to install the full puppet tar.gz file on clients? or just the puppetd file and supporting stuff (ie not puppetmasterd)? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 07:00:30] <JD> f3ew: I'm thinking forget databases, but users would be good, but I think I'm going to need a script to do it for me | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:00:50] <JD> this is postgresql, so need to update pg_hba.conf as well as creating users | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:02:04] <f3ew> JD ATM we just copy pg_hba.conf over | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:02:13] <f3ew> But we have some ugly requirements | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:03:02] <JD> f3ew: could do, but it might be different on different servers, so dunno | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:03:06] <JD> haven't thought about it enough | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:04:08] <f3ew> We have lots of two/three system access databases | ||
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| [2009/05/01 07:42:22] <LBo> Hi all | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:42:59] <LBo> Is there a way to check if the node has a particular module included? | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:43:19] <LBo> Because I've writen an apache2-module and a firewall module | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:43:36] <LBo> But not every node has apache installed | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:43:49] <LBo> So I would like to create an if in the firewall module | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:44:13] <LBo> That checks for apache, and if apache is included: get a particular file from the file bucket | ||
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| [2009/05/01 07:53:21] <LBo> Anyone? | ||
| [2009/05/01 07:53:32] <LBo> Or maybe better: check if a package is installed | ||
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| [2009/05/01 08:21:20] <LBo> Maybe a hint in the right direction? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 09:07:58] <joe-mac> burger king sells whoppers at 9 am | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:08:04] <joe-mac> i just thought #puppet needed to know | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:09:15] <joe-mac> LBo: there are ways to do that, are your iptables built from a template? | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:10:15] <duritong> lak: already finished your city tour? | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:10:16] @ Quit: LBo: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:10:24] <lak> temporary cessation | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:10:31] <duritong> also a good idea | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:10:36] <lak> doing a bit of email, then we go back out and tour the castle | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:10:40] <lak> or something | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:10:45] <duritong> nice | ||
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| [2009/05/01 09:10:49] <lak> david schmitt drove down for a visit | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:11:48] <duritong> yeah he mentioned it, unfortuantely we missed as he arrived yesterday night, not? | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:11:59] <lak> yeah, around 20:00 | ||
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| [2009/05/01 09:12:23] <duritong> yeah then I was already around Munich | ||
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| [2009/05/01 09:20:49] <fluxdude> JD: are there in built puppet variables for date/time etc or only what is given by facter? | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:23:47] <JD> fluxdude: no idea I'm afraid | ||
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| [2009/05/01 09:27:48] <lak> fluxdude: there aren't any that i know of, but it'd be trivial to add functions for them | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:27:51] <lak> if you really need them | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:31:21] <f3ew> #2028 | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:31:22] <gepetto> f3ew: #2028 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2028 "Puppet - Bug #2028: Puppetd fails poorly when a client certificate but no key is found - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
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| [2009/05/01 09:31:26] <f3ew> #2026 | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:31:27] <gepetto> f3ew: #2026 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2026 "Puppet - Bug #2026: RedHat service provider ignores stop - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:31:32] * f3ew blinks | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:31:43] <f3ew> #2208 | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:31:43] <gepetto> f3ew: #2208 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2208 "Puppet - Bug #2208: puppet/puppetd do not work with the server option provided on the comand line - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:31:45] <f3ew> even | ||
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| [2009/05/01 09:43:53] <fluxdude> warning: Configuration could not be instantiated: Parameter source failed: Could not understand source | ||
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| [2009/05/01 09:44:11] <fluxdude> any ideas why my source => template("file.erb") is giving this error? | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:44:35] <fluxdude> ah stupid me i should put content not source. | ||
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| [2009/05/01 09:59:36] <fluxdude> anyone know if luke is about or what his nick is? | ||
| [2009/05/01 09:59:53] <lak> fluxdude: i'm luke | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:00:02] <fluxdude> hi lak! | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:00:04] <lak> but i'm *just about* to leave for more city touring | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:00:21] <fluxdude> quickie question on the ticket you just closed? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 10:00:47] <lak> which one? | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:00:47] <riddley> anyone else have puppetmasters that randomly complain that they can't find your classes? | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:00:58] <lak> riddley: not that i have heard | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:01:01] <fluxdude> what did you mean by master branch? I am not checking out puppet from the repo or anything... | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:01:10] <riddley> lak, ! back from lunch? :) | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:01:12] <fluxdude> on the purge directory contents ticket, not sure what you meant... | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:01:20] <lak> fluxdude: yeah, if you clone a git repo, the default branch is the master branch | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:01:32] <lak> which we'll be releasing as 0.25 in the next few weeks, once we're done testing | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:01:35] <lak> it's feature-complete | ||
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| [2009/05/01 10:01:54] <fluxdude> lak: ah, so you think this is fixed in the next version of puppet this purging behaviour without source? | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:02:08] <lak> it's not really related to the source or lack thereof | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:02:11] <lak> but yeah, i think it is | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:02:25] <fluxdude> lak: ok will wait and try to see if the next version behaves differently... thx | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:02:51] <lak> riddley: lunch? it's 4pm here :) | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:03:11] <riddley> lak, the other day I IMed you and you said you'd get back to me after lunch... no biggie, just ribbin' ya | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:03:15] <lak> oh | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:03:16] <lak> crap | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:03:19] * lak is a bad person | ||
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| [2009/05/01 10:03:23] <riddley> lol | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:03:55] <mib_q8bmyr> any guides on how to mount nfs filesystems? I need it in a hurry :D | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:04:10] <lak> riddley: can you email me about it? i have to run now, but teyo or i will track it down | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:04:26] <riddley> lak, we'll just talk on our support call | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:04:29] <riddley> no rush | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:05:05] @ Quit: axisys: Success | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:05:39] <joe-mac> mib_q8bmyr: if you mean wrt puppet http://www.pastie.org/465017 | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:07:15] <lak> riddley: ok | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:07:17] <lak> laters all | ||
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| [2009/05/01 10:09:00] <joe-mac> i require a file resource so i cn make sure the mount point actaully exists, i am on an old version so idk if you don'ty need to do that anymore | ||
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| [2009/05/01 10:18:09] <joe-mac> mib_q8bmyr: you get that sorted otu? | ||
| [2009/05/01 10:19:34] <LBo> 1/quit | ||
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| [2009/05/01 10:32:08] <ibt> anyone running puppet 0.24.8, using storeconfigs, and having a weird message about "must pass retention to [host]"? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 10:46:19] <ibt> ahahaha.. that error could be better | ||
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| [2009/05/01 11:12:31] <joe-mac> you know what would be tasty? | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:12:36] <joe-mac> if ctags worked for puppet | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:13:04] <nasrat> joe-mac: umm it can easily | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:13:16] <joe-mac> yea i just saw your page nasrat | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:13:19] <joe-mac> doign it now, thanks | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:13:36] <nasrat> it's not perfect but it'll get you started | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:15:34] <sigmonsays> i'm getting yum is not functional on fc4 -- is there some reason why? (I know it's hella old) | ||
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| [2009/05/01 11:21:08] <nasrat> joe-mac: I need to get it to work with namespaces | ||
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| [2009/05/01 11:24:35] <joe-mac> nasrat: you mean like subclasses? | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:25:22] <nasrat> eg make yum::centos::five jump to the right place not class yum | ||
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| [2009/05/01 11:26:13] <joe-mac> o i c | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:27:21] <nasrat> just looking at ctags docs now | ||
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| [2009/05/01 11:27:29] <joe-mac> http://ctags.sourceforge.net/faq.html#7 | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:27:40] <joe-mac> idk if you know about that | ||
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| [2009/05/01 11:31:44] <jbooth_> sigmonsays: is your fc4 pointing to a mirror that still has fc4 on it? Otherwise it probably downloaded empty filelists and is cranky? | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:31:59] <sigmonsays> jbooth, nah I removed the repos ;) | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:32:42] <sigmonsays> i think it's honestly trying to make decisions on a version number | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:32:46] <sigmonsays> that is missing a digit | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:33:01] <sigmonsays> wrong number of arguments (2 for 1) and stuff | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:33:25] <sigmonsays> i'll dig in later. frying the big fish now | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:37:32] <joe-mac> how come with the openbsd package provider, it's not versionable, yet all you need to do is add -$version to the end of the package name to get that version | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:38:04] <joe-mac> i ask because package { "screen": ensure => "present" } on OBSD 4.4 fails cause there are a few different versions in the packages | ||
| [2009/05/01 11:38:53] <joe-mac> i have to put something like "screen-4.03p1" as the package name. i';d rather just have a selector on ensure and say tghe package version per OBSD release | ||
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| [2009/05/01 11:51:08] <nasrat> ah I think it's the puppet vim syntax I need to fix | ||
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| [2009/05/01 12:31:24] <Telmo> can you do a require => Class["class::subclass"] ? | ||
| [2009/05/01 12:32:34] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2009/05/01 12:32:52] <Telmo> cool | ||
| [2009/05/01 12:32:53] <Telmo> thanks | ||
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| [2009/05/01 12:39:57] <ch> i'd like to install stuff into /etc when install.rb runs, but it seems install.rb can't do that right now | ||
| [2009/05/01 12:40:05] <ch> is there any recommended way of doing this? | ||
| [2009/05/01 12:40:19] <ch> (need to put config.ru somewhere, and it's supposed to be user-editable) | ||
| [2009/05/01 12:45:55] <Volcane> make packages, dont use install.rb | ||
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| [2009/05/01 12:59:42] <brannigm> anyone every deploy Sun's SSH server on Solaris 10 with puppet? Problem with Sun's package is that the server keys don't get generated during the package deploy so when the service comes up, it's all goofy. I need a way to kick off a command (/lib/svc/method/sshd -c) when the package gets deployed. | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:01:08] <joe-mac> hmmm maybe create an exec resource but require the ssh package? | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:02:19] <brannigm> ah, didn't think about using a require ;) | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:02:36] <brannigm> i'll give that a wack | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:03:14] <brannigm> i was trying to use onlyif with /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key_dsa | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:03:21] <brannigm> but that wasn't working too well for me :) | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:04:07] <brannigm> do you use pastebin in this channel for posting listings? | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:06:22] <ch> how do puppet:/// urls work with puppet(1)? (instead of puppetd?) | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:06:43] <ch> brannigm: pastie.org | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:07:00] <jmarki> brannigm: why not have a file resource for the ssh_host_key_dsa? | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:07:53] <brannigm> jmarki: are you saying to have one pulled from a common repository? | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:09:14] <brannigm> http://www.pastie.org/465165 | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:11:39] <jmarki> brannigm: then use the exec + refreshonly attribute to trigger the creation of the keys | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:14:11] <jmarki> brannigm: and the subscribe attribute in exec. see the example for "refreshonly" parameter in the exec type reference page | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:14:12] <joe-mac> well, there is an sshkey type in newer versions too it hink | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:14:40] <brannigm> joe-mac, i think that's only for the known_hosts | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:15:06] <brannigm> not sure why sun just didn't put the blasted sshd -c in the postinstall script of the package | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:19:18] <brannigm> so, it becomes something like this: http://www.pastie.org/465177 | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:20:31] <joe-mac> brannigm: i don't see a require anywherE>? | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:20:54] <joe-mac> o i c subscribes | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:20:55] <joe-mac> o i c subscribes | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:21:03] <joe-mac> that was odd | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:22:02] <brannigm> is subscribe => Package[$ssh_packages] valid? | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:22:19] <joe-mac> yea | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:22:27] <joe-mac> well | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:22:43] <joe-mac> you might want to make sure with one of the devs that the exec will wait until the state has finished changing on the package resource | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:22:53] <joe-mac> i expect it does wait, but better make sure | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:23:47] <rgsteele||work> anybody else having problems resolving the wiki? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:24:26] <joe-mac> rgsteele||work: i don't know if it was problems resolving but bringing up the type reference took quite a while | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:24:29] <rgsteele||work> Seems like requests are taking awhile. | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:24:34] <joe-mac> i just let it chill since i am yuber multitasking atm | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:24:41] <rgsteele||work> joe-mac: That's what I was referring to | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:24:58] <brannigm> joe-mac: i was noticing that yesterday... type reference was s...l...o...w... | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:25:27] <joe-mac> the wiki in general has some response time issues brannigm, idk what it is but i think it is being worked on | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:25:45] <joe-mac> unless thuis is a new issue that's cropped up, since i did notice a speed increase for a couple weeks | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:32:11] <ChoHag> Why would /var/lib/puppet/yaml not have been created? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:36:20] <joe-mac> permissions, paths are set wrong, bad install | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:36:29] <jrojas> ChoHag: solar flares | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:36:38] <joe-mac> lol | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:36:42] <joe-mac> pretty much anything | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:36:50] <joe-mac> except a proper install | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:37:29] <jrojas> more than likely its permissions | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:37:52] <ChoHag> Well is it [supposed to be] created as the package is installed or one of the daemons is run? | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:38:14] <jrojas> daemons | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:38:39] <ChoHag> It's not permissions then - the parent dir is owned by puppet. | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:38:53] <jrojas> what user is the daemon running as? | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:38:59] <jrojas> client or server? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 13:39:09] <ChoHag> puppet | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:39:19] <ChoHag> And if it weren't running as puppet, it'd be running as root. | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:40:11] <joe-mac> ChoHag: have you run puppet yet? as in, applied a manifest? | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:40:20] <ChoHag> Yes. | ||
| [2009/05/01 13:40:38] <joe-mac> because on my machine where i have never applied am anifest, but have it installed for parsing .pp files, i have no yaml directory | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:10:40] <ibt> i can't remember. did someone say the camptocamp guy ircd? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:17:47] <fdz> ibt: Hi, I'm one guy working for camptocamp | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:18:44] <ibt> fdz: are remote backups working with the puppet-rdiff-backup module? i had to make several changes to get it working | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:19:11] <jrojas> fdz: there seems to be some issues with the iptables plugin, | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:19:41] <fdz> ibt: it should, what do you had to change ? | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:20:20] <fdz> jrojas: which kind of issues ? | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:21:01] <jrojas> fdz: it constantly makes changes when I use numbers for the names of the rules | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:21:05] <ibt> fdz: for one, the @@rdiff-backup::conf in the client node is missing the 'retention' param. also, in the args string of the client node's rdiff-backup::conf, shouldn't the ssh command be followed by rdiff-backup --server ? | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:21:17] <ibt> fdz: sorry, i'm talking about the README | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:23:19] <fdz> well, both modules were developed by coworkers of mine | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:23:22] <fdz> I'll have a look | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:23:35] <ibt> fdz: also, it seems kind of weird that you want to compile the server's version from source but then use the package manager for the client. don't the server and client have to agree in version? | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:25:55] <ibt> i guess it'd be annoying to have your own package repository to manage that in a really mixed environment, but.. | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:26:06] <fdz> jrojas: does it only does that when name is a number ? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:27:01] <jrojas> fdz: not sure, i havent tried with a-z because iptables rules need to be in specific orders and the way that puppet parses they will never be in the same order, | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:27:20] <jrojas> give me a minute some things are going boom | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:28:22] <jrojas> puppetmaster doesnt like it when the database for the stored configs goes away..... | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:29:11] <fdz> ibt: yes, the README was wrong, i'll fix that | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:29:48] <fdz> ibt: about the ssh command, it looks correct because we're using a command option in the ssh key | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:30:38] <fdz> ibt: and yes, rdiff-backup is not really backward or forward compatible | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:31:57] <fdz> but we might have a more recent version of the distro on the server than on clients, or the opposite | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:37:45] <ibt> fdz: okay, thanks for the information. | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:39:10] <fdz> np, that's nice to see people making use of these modules | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:45:11] <jrojas> fdz: http://pastie.org/465261 | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:45:20] <jrojas> see what differs between the two runs? | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:46:01] <ibt> fdz: if i don't specify "rdiff-backup --server" in the args, i get an error in the logs. http://rafb.net/p/EETQ6d28.html | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:46:29] <ibt> fdz: is the idea that when that particular ssh key is used, that command is run and nothing else can be? | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:46:58] <fdz> jrojas: I guess that your recipe does not contain dependencies between each iptables resource (using metaparam like require or before) ? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:50:36] <jrojas> fdz: why does Iptables[NNNN] change between runs though? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:52:45] <jrojas> fdz: also, using the before, after and requires would be a little crazy because I plan on having iptables rules in different modules | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:53:11] <fdz> jrojas: well, it seems that we're not using dependencies either... | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:53:17] <jrojas> :) | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:54:53] <fdz> jrojas: can you ask this question on puppet-users ? I'll ask the coworker which used this type to have a look | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:55:05] <jrojas> no problem. | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:55:30] <okolotas> let's figth ! http://chucknorrrris.mybrute.com | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:55:43] <fdz> ibt: does it works if you specify the command ? | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:56:08] <ibt> fdz: yeah | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:56:20] <fdz> ibt: yes, the goal is to restrain which command is allowed to run | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:56:45] <ibt> fdz: i seem to still be able to get a shell with that key | ||
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| [2009/05/01 14:57:41] <fdz> ibt: are you sure that you're using the correct key ? ssh -i my_private_key_file to test | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:57:41] <bla-bla> how do you create a link to a file ? http://widget.mibbit.com/pb/o6b2L4 is this a correct syntax? | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:58:06] <bla-bla> or do we need to use both 'link' and 'target' ? | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:58:10] <ibt> fdz: yeah, otherwise i wouldn't be able to log in without a password | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:58:11] <jrojas> file { "blah": ensure => "what the link should point to" } | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:58:36] <jrojas> fdz: sent | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:59:26] <jrojas> fdz: the other thing I noticed is that Iptables[NNNN] should actually be printing as Iptables[filter] (the table for the rules) | ||
| [2009/05/01 14:59:36] <fdz> ibt: and you did put something like command="rdiff-backup --server" in authorized_keys ? | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:00:02] <bla-bla> jorjas: http://widget.mibbit.com/pb/X9rc4m this created http://widget.mibbit.com/pb/b3BkIc | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:00:40] <ibt> fdz: yeah, it looks like: [pubkey]\n[stuff you said]\n | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:00:45] <jrojas> bla-bla: remove the ensure | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:00:55] <jrojas> you cant create a link with content | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:01:14] <jrojas> in this case if you want the link to exist, it will have to point to the file that you actually want the content in | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:02:20] <bla-bla> jorjas: howto? you mean then I will need to have another file {} ? Since i'm creating mysql_connections in /usr/share | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:02:21] <fdz> ibt: everything must be on the same line | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:02:29] <jrojas> bla-bla: sec | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:02:39] <bla-bla> then I want /etc/munin/plugins to have a link which points to it | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:04:10] <jrojas> bla-bla: http://pastie.org/465275 | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:04:16] <jrojas> something like that | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:04:53] <bla-bla> cool...now i know what you mean! thanks...let me try that syntax | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:17:32] <ibt> fdz: okay, thanks for the hint | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:17:59] <bla-bla> jrojas: it works! thanks!! | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:18:56] <jrojas> np | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:19:06] @ Quit: claymation: | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:19:23] <jrojas> bla-bla: the style guide and best practices on the wiki should be a good read for you, it has a lot of that stuff in there | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:25:04] <ch> PVSCSI adapters are high-performance storage adapters | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:25:05] <ch> that offer greater throughput and lower CPU utilization for virtual machines. They are best suited for environments in which | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:25:08] <ch> sorry | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:34:26] <mconigliaro> hey guys, what can i look at to see why puppet has become so slow lately | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:34:27] <mconigliaro> ? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:34:48] <mconigliaro> if i do puppetd --test --debug... | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:34:51] <mconigliaro> debug: Calling fileserver.describe | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:34:59] <mconigliaro> that message sits there forever | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:35:19] <jrojas> sounds like your puppetmaster has issues | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:35:34] <mconigliaro> definitely | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:35:42] <jrojas> whats the load average of puppetmaster? how many clients? etc? | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:35:59] <mconigliaro> load is about .06 | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:36:06] <mconigliaro> maybe 15 clients? | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:36:32] <jrojas> something is funky then | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:36:37] <mconigliaro> ok, now its fast again | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:36:44] <mconigliaro> this is weird | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:37:03] <mconigliaro> debug: Calling puppetmaster.getconfig | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:37:10] <mconigliaro> this one sits there for a while too | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:37:24] <mconigliaro> its slow again. looks like its happening randomly | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:37:28] <mconigliaro> very weird | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:37:45] <jrojas> sounds like a file IO issue | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:39:53] <mconigliaro> this box isnt even doing anything | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:40:17] <jrojas> puppetmaster is having trouble with something. or it could be network related | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:40:28] <mconigliaro> is there a puppetmaster log somewhere? | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:40:42] <jrojas> usually /var/log/puppet/puppetmaster.log | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:41:02] <mconigliaro> i only have masterhttp.log | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:41:15] <jrojas> configure logging then | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:44:08] <agaffney> mmm...the rebuild-iptables stuff from http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/ModuleIptables is quite nice | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:44:21] <agaffney> I modified it slightly for my needs and it works great | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:45:08] <jrojas> agaffney: yeah but its still managing snipplets of files | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:45:41] <agaffney> it's certainly better than managing a complete file for each server | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:45:44] <agaffney> or set of servers | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:46:05] <jrojas> true, but it would be 10x better if the iptables custom type I am using worked a little better.. | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:46:27] <jrojas> http://github.com/camptocamp/puppet-iptables/tree/master | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:47:09] <agaffney> can you have multiple 'node' entries for a particular host? | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:47:43] <jrojas> no | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:49:12] <joe-mac> what problem would that solve agaffney? | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:49:50] <agaffney> to apply these iptables bits to groups of hosts | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:50:17] <jrojas> node 'a' { include iptables } | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:50:28] <jrojas> node 'b' { include iptables } | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:50:31] <jrojas> ? | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:50:43] <agaffney> no, something like: | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:51:10] <agaffney> node 'a', 'b', 'c' { ipt_fragment { http: } } | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:51:19] <jrojas> yes you can do that | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:51:23] <agaffney> node 'b', 'c', 'd': { ipt_fragment { snmp: } } | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:51:32] <jrojas> well | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:51:35] <jrojas> not the re-definition | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:51:40] <agaffney> right | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:51:44] <agaffney> that's what I was asking about :) | ||
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| [2009/05/01 15:53:57] <jrojas> agaffney: at that point you would have to doa node 'a' { ipt_fragment [a,b,c,d] or whatever. } | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:54:10] <agaffney> yeah, that's what I'm trying to avoid | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:54:23] <agaffney> but it probably can't be avoided | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:54:52] <jrojas> agaffney: unless all your hosts have a good naming convention that can be parsed, then you can do if $host then include ... | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:54:57] <jrojas> but that gets funky as well | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:55:14] <agaffney> indeed | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:55:22] <agaffney> in some cases, I have groups of identically configured servers | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:55:29] <agaffney> so I can stick the iptables stuff in the classes for those | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:56:27] <joe-mac> agaffney: do a template def fior iptables.rules.$function.erb | ||
| [2009/05/01 15:56:38] <joe-mac> i do an iptables.rules.$location.erb | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:21:27] <plathrop> andrewcshafer: git filebucket sounds awesome | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:22:05] <andrewcshafer> It's basically what file bucket does now, hashed keys to changes | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:22:19] <andrewcshafer> lak brought it up in passing a while ago | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:22:50] <plathrop> Yeah, only it would probably be easier to work with if it were git under the hood :-) | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:22:51] <andrewcshafer> but it enables some interesting functionality | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:23:09] <andrewcshafer> and maybe even make git the fileserver | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:23:51] <ed209> that would work a lot like rancid does for switch configs then | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:24:07] <plathrop> I think that would be a huge net win, honestly | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:24:14] <ed209> totally | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:28:03] <andrewcshafer> plathrop: If I could tweet all the dysfunction I'm trying to wade through on this conference call... | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:28:25] <plathrop> andrewcshafer: If you did that, there would probably be less awesome ;-{ | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:28:33] <plathrop> That was supposed to be ;-P | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:28:36] <plathrop> Damn fat fingers | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:28:52] <plathrop> The bit about operations using version control was priceless. | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:29:57] <andrewcshafer> "We're looking for some way that we don't have shared accounts logging in as root on all the boxes." | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:30:17] * andrewcshafer slaps forehead | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:30:18] <plathrop> andrewcshafer: Ow. That makes my Ops brain hurt. | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:31:33] <andrewcshafer> imagine 200 SA managing clustered machines on foreign soil and the customer can also make configuration changes. | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:31:34] <plathrop> How's this for a better sound bite: "With Puppet, our Ops team has stopped logging in at all, much less as root!" | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:32:47] <plathrop> andrewcshafer: No wonder they called you guys. The question is, did they call soon enough? | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:33:00] <plathrop> andrewcshafer: Have you told them "You really have to *want* to change"? | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:33:09] * plathrop is snarky today. | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:33:28] <andrewcshafer> That was from the IM backchannel with Teyo. | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:35:14] <andrewcshafer> Holy Meatcloud Batman!!! | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:35:46] <stmikeb> @_@ | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:36:30] <andrewcshafer> 99% of this is a human engineering problem. | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:40:03] <plathrop> andrewcshafer: Those are non-trivial :-D | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:41:10] <jrojas> anyone want to make a quick $100 and fix the puppet-iptables plugin? | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:41:24] <grim_radical> I think that if more companies were willing to just fire bad SAs, things would be a lot better | ||
| [2009/05/01 17:41:56] <grim_radical> now that I work at a giant corporate monstrosity, I'm amazed how hard it is to get rid of someone that sucks | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:42:52] <plathrop> grim_radical: Even small companies have that problem | ||
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| [2009/05/01 17:43:30] <grim_radical> plathrop: very true | ||
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| [2009/05/01 18:16:34] <ch> wiki:UsingPassenger | ||
| [2009/05/01 18:16:35] <gepetto> ch: wiki: wiki:UsingPassenger is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingPassenger | ||
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| [2009/05/01 18:42:38] <jrojas> .. | ||
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| [2009/05/01 19:15:01] <lak> http://blog.pluron.com/2009/05/ruby-19-performance.html | ||
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| [2009/05/01 19:15:12] <lak> looks like we should get cracking on that 1.9 compatibility | ||
| [2009/05/01 19:15:39] <z00dax> looks interesting. | ||
| [2009/05/01 19:15:45] <z00dax> I should get pkgs for 1.9 on centos too | ||
| [2009/05/01 19:23:11] <lak> ok, see everyone on the flip side | ||
| [2009/05/01 19:23:16] * lak returns to the us tomorrow | ||
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| [2009/05/01 19:39:09] <andrewcshafer> http://crosstwine.com/linker/ruby.html | ||
| [2009/05/01 19:43:19] <jrojas> hmm | ||
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