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| [2009/04/26 02:36:05] <ChoHag> Heh. From fileserver.rb: unless full_path \\ p self | ||
| [2009/04/26 02:36:12] <ChoHag> Not having a full path makes you wet the bed? | ||
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| [2009/04/26 03:31:50] <johnw> there's one thing that's very attractive about bcfg2: being able to visualize the differences between a machine's present configuration and its defined configuration | ||
| [2009/04/26 03:33:31] <johnw> does puppet have anything like this? | ||
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| [2009/04/26 03:48:45] <andrewcshafer_> johnw: I'm not familiar with bcfg2, how does it represent the difference? | ||
| [2009/04/26 03:49:07] <johnw> it shows each resources in a small webapp, and whether it is in sync | ||
| [2009/04/26 03:49:17] <johnw> the screenshots don't show if it can drill down to an actual diff or not | ||
| [2009/04/26 03:49:32] <andrewcshafer_> Puppet can run in noop mode and it will tell you everything it wants to change, what state it is in, and what state it should be in | ||
| [2009/04/26 03:50:01] <andrewcshafer_> you can also use ralsh to explore unmanaged hosts | ||
| [2009/04/26 03:50:02] <johnw> ah, ok! | ||
| [2009/04/26 03:50:34] <andrewcshafer_> it's not a sexy visualization, at least not yet, but that should work | ||
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| [2009/04/26 04:12:50] <johnw> when I call a function defined in module A from module B, is there a predefined variable which lets me know that a particular call came from B? | ||
| [2009/04/26 04:12:55] <johnw> right now I pass a "module" parameter around | ||
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| [2009/04/26 05:52:06] <zerozaine> halo | ||
| [2009/04/26 05:52:28] <zerozaine> ada yang online disini? | ||
| [2009/04/26 05:52:53] <DavidS> zerozaine: english please? | ||
| [2009/04/26 05:53:36] <zerozaine> oh sorry | ||
| [2009/04/26 05:53:36] <zerozaine> hello | ||
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| [2009/04/26 06:55:06] <vix> i am looking to monitor puppet using nagios | ||
| [2009/04/26 06:55:34] <vix> does anyone know of sme decent checks | ||
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| [2009/04/26 07:06:18] <jamesturnbull> vix: well logical checks are dameons running and file age checks and there is a check_puppet.rb in the ext/nagios directory in the puppet package | ||
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| [2009/04/26 07:27:24] <vix> jamesturnbull: il have a look | ||
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| [2009/04/26 08:13:38] <vix> i cant find check_puppet.rb | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:13:41] <vix> :| | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:15:07] <nasrat> it's in git where are you looking? | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:18:17] <vix> the puppet rpm | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:23:21] <vix> git ? | ||
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| [2009/04/26 08:26:18] <vix> nasrat: ? | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:26:27] <nasrat> vix: git is the scm puppet lives in | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:26:34] <nasrat> which distro | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:26:37] <vix> rhel | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:26:45] <nasrat> puppet version? | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:27:51] <vix> 0.22.4 | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:28:45] <vix> thts my client ver | ||
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| [2009/04/26 08:30:31] <vix> puppermaster 0.24.7 | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:31:16] <vix> ? | ||
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| [2009/04/26 08:38:14] <vix> hello? | ||
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| [2009/04/26 08:38:46] <vix> hello ? | ||
| [2009/04/26 08:39:25] <vix> can someone help me get check_puppet.rb | ||
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| [2009/04/26 08:58:55] <nasrat_> http://github.com/reductivelabs/puppet/raw/62dad7a5f87f8d6285650ab1b727819db27cf2a7/ext/nagios/check_puppet.rb | ||
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| [2009/04/26 09:01:06] <vix> yes | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:01:07] <vix> got it | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:01:27] <vix> ./check_puppet.rb:4:in `require': No such file to load -- sys/proctable (LoadError) from ./check_puppet.rb:4 | ||
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| [2009/04/26 09:22:40] <vix> can someone help | ||
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| [2009/04/26 09:37:36] <jamesturnbull> vix: you're missing a library | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:37:45] <jamesturnbull> vix: what ruby version do you have? | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:38:05] <vix> ruby 1.8.1 | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:38:44] <jamesturnbull> vix: old version - probably the issue | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:39:02] <vix> wil instaling ruby-devel.i386 help? | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:39:13] <vix> by any chance | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:39:16] <jamesturnbull> vix: unlikley | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:40:53] <vix> didnt help :( | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:41:16] <jamesturnbull> vix: you need to upgrade Ruby | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:41:24] <vix> how do i figure whatprovides tht library | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:41:44] <jamesturnbull> vix: in newer Ruby versions it's a default library | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:41:49] <jamesturnbull> no idea about older versions | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:41:52] <vix> oh | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:42:59] <jamesturnbull> vix: let me look hang on | ||
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| [2009/04/26 09:44:12] <jamesturnbull> vix: http://raa.ruby-lang.org/project/sys-proctable/ | ||
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| [2009/04/26 09:44:54] <rubypond> afternoon all | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:46:51] <vix> rake install is what i need to rub | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:46:56] <vix> once i download | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:48:22] <vix> run | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:48:56] <rubypond> anyone manage to get it running in 1.9? | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:49:03] <rubypond> sorry, ruby1.9 | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:49:23] <vix> rake install does nothing | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:49:28] <jamesturnbull> rubypond: Facter wroks but Puppet not as yet | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:49:48] <jamesturnbull> rubypond: we just haven't had time to go through and fix yet | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:50:13] <rubypond> I Luke mentioned in Feb that josb had provided a compatibility patch. Is that available publicly? | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:50:25] <phantez> I tested | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:50:40] <phantez> I have some errors on facter | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:50:49] <phantez> but I had an output | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:51:03] <phantez> but it took three time the time facter take with ruby 1.8 | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:51:17] <phantez> and I haven't succeed in making work puppetd / puppetmasterd / puppet | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:51:58] <jamesturnbull> rubypond: as far as I understand the patch didn't apply cleanly on HEAD | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:52:04] <phantez> with 1.9, I pasted my output on puppet-dev ml and created a ticket http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2191 | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:52:11] <jamesturnbull> vix: rake install - read the README | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:52:14] <rubypond> feck :/ | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:52:45] <phantez> I asked josb and he said never succeed in making ruby 1.9 work correclty | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:05] <jamesturnbull> phantez: not sure your facter issues are Ruby 1.9 | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:13] <rubypond> jamesturnbull: Do you know which file generates that error? It'll just be a matter of changing .each to .each_line | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:29] <phantez> I have two completly similar computer | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:33] <phantez> I did exactly the same | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:38] <vix> [root@mss-test2 rake-0.8.4]# rake install | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:38] <vix> bash: rake: command not found | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:38] <phantez> recompiling ruby 1.9 and 1.8 | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:41] <phantez> openssl and so on | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:43] <vix> tried installing rake | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:50] <vix> [root@mss-test2 rake-0.8.4]# gem install rake | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:50] <vix> bash: gem: command not found | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:52] <vix> argh | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:53] <jamesturnbull> phantez: ah okaylet me check | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:53:57] <phantez> doing exactly the same with the only difference on the ruby version and one work and not the other | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:54:03] <vix> [root@mss-test2 rake-0.8.4]# ruby install.rb | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:54:04] <vix> bash: ruby: command not found | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:54:13] <vix> ruby dsnt like me | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:54:15] <phantez> the only difference was I had to backport a lib from 1.8 to make rake ./install.rb work | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:54:22] <jamesturnbull> rubypond: the file will be lib/facter/util/ip.rb | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:55:30] <phantez> jamesturnbull: I have to go but I am really in what your output may look like | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:55:34] <phantez> interested | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:56:03] <phantez> btw, to make it easy (or not ^^) I have two username on the redmine phantez and gorget | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:56:05] <jamesturnbull> phantez: I'll patch that facter problem in HEAD toinght | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:56:19] <phantez> phantez is my personnal, and gorget is the one for the company I work for | ||
| [2009/04/26 09:56:34] <jamesturnbull> okay - I'll put the commit in the ticket | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:03:50] <rubypond> any ideas where/when puppetmasterd is meant to create /etc/puppet/ssl/ca | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:03:52] <rubypond> ? | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:05:37] <jamesturnbull> rubypond: early on | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:06:10] <rubypond> can't find it anywhere in the makedirs bits :/ | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:06:44] <jamesturnbull> rubypond: memory betrays me but somewhere in the ca.rb code I suspect | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:16:24] <puppet> is it recommended to deply puppet to manage 200 desktops using a single Duo 2, 2GB RAM system with Webrick? | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:25:17] <tim|imac> webrick is not recommended except for testing setups, afaik... better switch to mongrel | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:25:49] <puppet> how many nodes can mongrel handle without apache as reverse proxy | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:25:58] <puppet> or load balancer | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:27:42] <jamesturnbull> puppet: a lot - I know people with thousands of nodes - also depends on how complex your configuration is | ||
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| [2009/04/26 10:43:36] <Volcane> mongrel+apache should be fine on that hardware for 200 nodes | ||
| [2009/04/26 10:43:44] <Volcane> suffers for me around 800 nodes | ||
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| [2009/04/26 13:11:47] <vix> * i cant find my state file | ||
| [2009/04/26 13:13:13] <vix> for my puppet daemon | ||
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| [2009/04/26 13:56:53] <agaffney> I'm new to puppet and I'm trying to set it up to manage multiple distros | ||
| [2009/04/26 13:57:05] <agaffney> I'm creating a module for setting up ldap auth on all my boxes | ||
| [2009/04/26 13:57:10] <agaffney> it works great for my centos boxes | ||
| [2009/04/26 13:57:16] <agaffney> which just need nss_ldap installed | ||
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| [2009/04/26 13:57:27] <agaffney> but for the debian boxes, they need libnss-ldap and libpam-ldap installed | ||
| [2009/04/26 13:57:51] <agaffney> hmm, I just had an idea | ||
| [2009/04/26 13:58:54] <agaffney> ok, that didn't help with my problem | ||
| [2009/04/26 13:59:05] <agaffney> I have a series of files that are installed on the centos box | ||
| [2009/04/26 13:59:17] <agaffney> but I need a different set of files installed on the debian boxes | ||
| [2009/04/26 13:59:21] <agaffney> I'm not sure how to go about that | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:01:53] <agaffney> http://pastebin.ca/1403399 | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:02:00] <agaffney> that's my module's init.pp | ||
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| [2009/04/26 14:02:56] <agaffney> right now, it's complaining that there's no match for 'debian' on line 28 | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:05:18] <agaffney> I was going to add a couple of different 'file' entries for the debian stuff | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:09:44] * monachus is in limbo. | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:19:44] <lak> agaffney: what distro are you on? | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:20:13] <agaffney> the trouble child is debian | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:20:20] <lak> agaffney: why use the selector if you only have one option? | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:20:23] <agaffney> I've just disabled the entire ldap auth module for debian for now | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:20:35] <agaffney> I want it to install the file on centos but not debian | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:20:40] <agaffney> because debian needs different files | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:21:45] <agaffney> I'd use the 'if $operatingsystem == "debian"' construct around the 'file' sections, but the puppet version on debian is only 0.24.4 | ||
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| [2009/04/26 14:51:10] * astinus wedgies agaffney | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:51:26] * agaffney kicks astinus in the junk | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:51:31] <agaffney> with love, of course | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:51:43] <astinus> agaffney: New job got you pimping their Infra with Puppet? | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:51:57] <agaffney> astinus: doing it myself | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:52:22] * astinus grins | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:52:24] <agaffney> I have pretty much free rein | ||
| [2009/04/26 14:52:59] <agaffney> my current setup (which I just put together yesterday) installs and enabled ntp, sets a common root password, and setup up LDAP auth against AD | ||
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| [2009/04/26 15:19:12] <johnw> Is there a way to request that a certain module be executed before anything else? It seems that the "before" parameter can only specify an explicit other module | ||
| [2009/04/26 15:28:27] <johnw> I think i may need to use environments to achieve what I want | ||
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| [2009/04/26 17:49:09] <duritong> gepetto: seen DavidS | ||
| [2009/04/26 17:49:09] <gepetto> duritong: DavidS was last seen 1 hour, 57 minutes and 19 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Client Quit) | ||
| [2009/04/26 17:49:13] <duritong> argh | ||
| [2009/04/26 17:49:34] <duritong> well only very shorty, maybe by accident? ;) | ||
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| [2009/04/26 18:05:21] <duritong> win 14 | ||
| [2009/04/26 18:08:00] <ezmob> qtop | ||
| [2009/04/26 18:08:09] <ezmob> oops | ||
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| [2009/04/26 18:16:53] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: seen nasrat | ||
| [2009/04/26 18:16:53] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: nasrat was last seen 9 hours, 29 minutes and 51 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) and a while before saying "puppet version?" | ||
| [2009/04/26 18:19:34] <johnw> is there a way to find out which packages on a system (via ralsh) are not being installed by puppet? | ||
| [2009/04/26 18:19:43] <johnw> i.e., the non-puppet stuff | ||
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| [2009/04/26 18:32:25] <StyleWarz> did anyone notice problems with facts? | ||
| [2009/04/26 18:32:44] <StyleWarz> before i upgraded everything worked fine, but now all my facts report wrong stuff | ||
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| [2009/04/26 19:41:46] * monachus is in limbo. | ||
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| [2009/04/26 19:55:34] <lak> monachus: why are you in limbo? | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:56:16] <Djelibeybi> lak: do you forsee any problems if I remove world-readable permissions from /var/lib/puppet? | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:56:41] <lak> hmm. at least the puppet user probably needs them, but i'm not positive | ||
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| [2009/04/26 19:57:28] <Djelibeybi> lak: the puppet user only exists on the puppet master -- puppetd runs as root | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:57:43] @ Quit: shake-n-bake: | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:57:47] <Djelibeybi> so, some dirs will be owned by puppet (for the master), others by root (for the client) all without world-readability | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:57:52] <Djelibeybi> The security guys are insisting on this. :) | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:57:57] * Djelibeybi has already fixed /etc/puppet | ||
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| [2009/04/26 19:58:36] <lak> maybe try it? | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:59:03] <jrojas> lak: does puppet bucket files by default? | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:59:08] <jrojas> on the client end | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:59:25] <lak> the problem is that we use the same permission set for both server and client, and it's tough to find a set that works for both but doesn't require a puppet user on all clients | ||
| [2009/04/26 19:59:30] <lak> jrojas: yes, just locally | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:00:06] <jrojas> hm...wasnt there an issue where a directory was recursively being bucketed? even tho all you are managing is the ensure => present? | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:00:09] <jrojas> for the dir | ||
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| [2009/04/26 20:02:10] <Djelibeybi> lak: I'll give it a whirl, see what happens. | ||
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| [2009/04/26 20:03:10] <lak> jrojas: nfs mounts disappearing and reappearing | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:03:20] <jrojas> yeah just found it. | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:03:28] <jrojas> i need to look into my issue, i think it is unrelated to nfs mounts | ||
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| [2009/04/26 20:06:48] <jfreeman> hi, is there a way I can pass the operatingsystem fact to a shell script variable? | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:08:26] <lak> jfreeman: VAR=$fact ./my/script | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:08:42] <jfreeman> ta, I'll give that a spin | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:09:23] <jfreeman> hang about... | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:09:45] <jfreeman> where does that go? in the init.pp? | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:10:04] <lak> wherever you're trying to eecute the shell script? | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:10:08] <lak> s/ee/exe/ | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:11:41] <jfreeman> ok let me rephrase the question :) | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:12:08] <Djelibeybi> lak: it appears that the RPM for puppet (client) creates a Puppet user and sets its home directory to /var/lib/puppet | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:12:17] <lak> ah | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:12:19] <Djelibeybi> lak: however, everything underneath that appears to be owned by root | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:12:26] <Djelibeybi> On a pure client. | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:12:36] <Djelibeybi> On the puppet master, there is a mix of root (client) and puppet (master) directories | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:12:39] <lak> we've just had problems when releases accidentally required the existence of a puppet user | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:12:51] <lak> Djelibeybi: have you seen that you can change settings in puppet.conf? | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:12:51] <jfreeman> Is there a way I can INSERT the operatingsystem fact into a shell script template. So that the shell script is written out to the target containing the operatingsystem fact | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:13:08] <lak> something like vardir=foo {owner=a,group=b,mode=7777} | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:13:20] <lak> jfreeman: use a template | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:13:33] <Djelibeybi> lak: I wasn't aware of that. If I make that change, will it "fix" an existing directory? | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:13:40] <lak> yep | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:13:42] <jfreeman> lak: the shell script is a template | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:13:54] <Djelibeybi> lak: got a wiki page reference for that? So I can look deeper? | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:13:55] <lak> jfreeman: then just use the fact like any other variable | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:13:59] <lak> Djelibeybi: erm, no? | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:04] <lak> i'm not sure it's well documented | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:06] <jfreeman> lak: I've tried using <%= operatingsystem %> | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:12] <lak> maybe wiki:ConfigurationReference ? | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:18] <gepetto> lak: wiki:ConfigurationReference is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ConfigurationReference | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:18] <jfreeman> lak: I'll test again | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:20] <lak> jfreeman: that should do it | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:20] <Djelibeybi> lak: I'll take a peek | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:39] <lak> or recent releases you can do <%= @operatingsystem %> | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:47] <lak> anyway, it's 1:15am here, gots to get some sleep | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:49] <lak> laters all | ||
| [2009/04/26 20:14:57] <jfreeman> lak: thanks mate! | ||
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| [2009/04/26 20:47:38] <andrewcshafer> StyleWarz: What is the specific problem with facts? What did you upgrade? | ||
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| [2009/04/26 21:43:32] <gstratton> If I have a cron job that was created by Puppet, how do I remove it? | ||
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| [2009/04/26 21:45:52] <jamesturnbull> gstratton: ensure => absent | ||
| [2009/04/26 21:46:19] <gstratton> jamesturnbull: Ah, thanks | ||
| [2009/04/26 21:53:52] <gstratton> jamesturnbull: It worked on one host, on the other I get err: Could not prefetch cron provider 'crontab': No command, somehow at /etc/puppet/manifests/site.pp:121 | ||
| [2009/04/26 21:54:14] <gstratton> If I remove the resource from the file it runs without issue | ||
| [2009/04/26 21:55:38] <gstratton> Ah, the one which doesn't work is 0.24.7, the one which works is 0.24.8 | ||
| [2009/04/26 22:00:17] <gstratton> But upgrading doesn't fix it, though it does change the behaviour slightly | ||
| [2009/04/26 22:02:28] <gstratton> Okay, don't remove the 'command' attribute and it works... | ||
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| [2009/04/26 22:22:45] <agaffney> I'm trying to create a service entry for puppet itself | ||
| [2009/04/26 22:22:55] <agaffney> so that after I run it by hand with --test, it'll get automatically started | ||
| [2009/04/26 22:23:12] <agaffney> the problem is that it sees the one-time puppetd instance running and assumes it's already running | ||
| [2009/04/26 22:23:47] <agaffney> so I'm trying to add a 'pattern' for the service that will match a normal puppetd instance but not one running with --test | ||
| [2009/04/26 22:23:50] <agaffney> is that possible? | ||
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