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| [2009/04/19 01:45:35] <girlye> hi | ||
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| [2009/04/19 02:51:17] <johnw> I'm using Puppet with Nagios and stored configs | ||
| [2009/04/19 02:51:25] <johnw> n/m, just answered my question | ||
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| [2009/04/19 02:53:26] <realist> There was a question in there? | ||
| [2009/04/19 02:53:33] <johnw> was going to be :) | ||
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| [2009/04/19 06:52:58] <jacko115> Hello. Am looking for advice. Am thinking about using LDAP for user authentication and puppet to manage computer setup. I have network mounts (that vary between computers). Could/Should I use puppet to manage the nfs mounts or do them through LDAP? Cheers. | ||
| [2009/04/19 06:55:23] <bob2> how would you use ldap to manage nfs mounts? | ||
| [2009/04/19 06:56:34] <jacko115> haven't 100% looked into it, but I thought there was a way... | ||
| [2009/04/19 06:56:47] <jacko115> am I mistaken? | ||
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| [2009/04/19 08:35:40] <monzie> hello everyone | ||
| [2009/04/19 08:35:59] <monzie> need help with writing a site.pp for my monit provider | ||
| [2009/04/19 08:36:08] <monzie> can someone help? | ||
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| [2009/04/19 09:14:45] <monzie> can someone help me out with http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-dev/browse_thread/thread/9ab4189e0788fe85? | ||
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| [2009/04/19 12:15:51] <int> hello! if i runs puppetd --test it shows me diffs, how can i configure puppet to send diffs in mail reports too? | ||
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| [2009/04/19 14:20:34] <dsch04> Evening all | ||
| [2009/04/19 14:20:59] <dsch04> Can anyone point me at sizing guidelines for a puppet server | ||
| [2009/04/19 14:21:01] <dsch04> ? | ||
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| [2009/04/19 15:06:03] <oskapt> @dsch04 puppet is low-intensity. any reasonably-sized machine should be able to handle the management of a decent amount of systems | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:07:59] <nDuff> oskapt, ehh, depends on the scale you're running. | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:08:48] <nDuff> oskapt, my shop has pretty significant performance issues -- though granted, a dump of our resource graph has upwards of 9000 relationships. | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:09:27] <oskapt> @nduff - fair enough, but that's true of anything. a single decent modern machine should be able to handle several hundred systems, so i guess it's a question of defining "decent amount" | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:10:42] <nDuff> oskapt, we pushed the config compilation work over from the puppetmaster to the individual clients, and even just compiling a config for *one* machine, our QA VMs run their load through the roof. So -- several hundred systems, sure, but only if they have simple configs. | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:11:50] <dsch04> Am spec'ing a server for ~40 machines | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:12:03] <dsch04> split across 2 DCs | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:12:18] <dsch04> So, no really problem then | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:12:30] <dsch04> *real | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:12:51] <dsch04> The cheapest server Dell produce! | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:13:41] * oskapt goes back to lurking | ||
| [2009/04/19 15:13:45] <nDuff> dsch04, yar, doesn't sound like anything you'll need to worry much about optimizing for as long as you're not doing anything insane like we are :) | ||
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| [2009/04/19 20:56:56] <devicenull> so, I'm looking through the simple puppet install docs and I'm wondering how I could automate the cert signing thing? | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:00:26] <ezekiel-v3> devicenull: sounds like a reallly bad idea - that SHOULD require human intervention. | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:00:56] <ezekiel-v3> still, you vcould easily run "puppetca sign all" in cron or something | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:01:23] <devicenull> I suppose so | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:01:28] <ezekiel-v3> (that's not the exact command) | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:01:36] <devicenull> yea | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:01:49] <devicenull> couldn't I ship a standard peer certificate | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:02:04] <devicenull> or is that how puppet determines which host is which? | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:02:37] <ezekiel-v3> I don't believe that the catalog and the certificate are inextricably linked | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:03:11] <ezekiel-v3> but - how do you distribute a client certificate if puppet is not already running? | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:03:23] <devicenull> I'm writing a bash script that installs puppet and starts it | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:03:26] <devicenull> (among other things) | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:03:45] <devicenull> I need to get the system to a state where puppet can take over somehow, and I dont know of a better way then a bash script | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:03:54] <ezekiel-v3> pxeboot | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:04:12] <ezekiel-v3> and install an image that already has things installed | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:04:15] <ezekiel-v3> what distro? | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:04:41] <devicenull> I dont have control over pxeboot | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:04:44] <devicenull> but centos | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:04:51] <devicenull> or I should say, I can't modify the stock image | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:05:16] <ezekiel-v3> yeah, kickstart would be a good way to go - but a bash script works, too. | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:05:21] <ezekiel-v3> whatever works | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:06:14] <devicenull> I suppose, even if I automated the cert stuff I'd still need to manually add the host to the config file | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:15:24] <devicenull> do I need to restart the puppet master when I make changes to the manifests? | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:16:35] <Ned_> devicenull: I've found just "touching" site.pp | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:16:38] <Ned_> does the trick :-) | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:16:54] <devicenull> thanks | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:16:55] <Ned_> well, that forces it to re-evaluate wild-card imports :-) | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:17:00] <Ned_> everything else should probably just work anyway | ||
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| [2009/04/19 21:24:39] <devicenull> if there a way to install packages via yum, outside of exec? | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:24:43] <devicenull> I'm not seeing much on google | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:25:11] <nDuff> devicenull, if yum is the appropriate provider on your distro, it's what the package { } type should be using anyhow | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:25:29] <devicenull> oh I didnt realize there was a package type | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:25:46] <bda> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#package | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:25:51] <devicenull> ya found it thanks | ||
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| [2009/04/19 21:37:50] <devicenull> source => "puppet:///some/path" | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:38:03] <devicenull> would that be all thats necessary to get the file from the currently connected server? | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:38:18] <proton> basically :) | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:38:22] <devicenull> the docs say if the server isnt there, it will fill it in automatically but I'm not sure how to leavei t out properly | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:38:28] <devicenull> alright cool | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:38:45] <Cuchulain> puppet://server:port/some/path, i think | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:38:58] <Cuchulain> so if you have nothing between the // and the /, it just uses the defaults | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:39:00] <proton> puppet:///module/filename is what you want | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:39:12] <proton> that gets it from the puppetmasterd you're connected to | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:39:20] <proton> and pulls it from the "files" directory in the module you specify | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:39:22] <devicenull> yea, that's what I want | ||
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| [2009/04/19 21:40:21] <rektide> im interested if there's been any cases of people using puppet not for system configuration, but for environment setup | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:40:34] <rektide> i currently have a git repository and a host of shell scripts to deploy myself onto systems | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:40:46] <devicenull> rektide, that's what I'm setting up right now :D | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:40:47] <rektide> but i find it adhoc and frustrating | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:41:01] <proton> yeah, I know a number of people do that | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:41:02] <rektide> git or puppet? :) | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:41:06] <devicenull> both | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:41:08] <devicenull> :D | ||
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| [2009/04/19 21:49:25] <devicenull> so.. if I have a file being sent via puppet:// and it gets updated on the master.. will all the client automatically pick up the changed version? | ||
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| [2009/04/19 21:51:43] <devicenull> package { [ "lighttpd", "lighttpd-fastcgi", "php-cli", "php-mysql", "git" ]: ensure => latest } | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:51:51] <devicenull> what's wrong with that? | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:52:00] <devicenull> I get err: Could not retrieve configuration: Could not parse for environment production: Syntax error at 'ensure'; expected '}' | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:56:05] <devicenull> nm I'm an idio | ||
| [2009/04/19 21:56:07] <devicenull> *idiot | ||
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| [2009/04/19 22:08:18] <devicenull> so, automatic updates of files seems to happen | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:08:25] <devicenull> which is good, means I dont need to install git everwhere | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:08:48] <proton> yeah, it should just all be magical :-) | ||
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| [2009/04/19 22:15:14] <devicenull> alright there has to be a better way.. | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:15:25] <devicenull> do I really need one file {} entry for each of my php source files? | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:17:13] <devicenull> I can't seem to figure out how else to make sure they all exist | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:18:11] <Djelibeybi> devicenull: you can recurse an entire directory | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:18:24] <devicenull> ah | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:18:27] <Djelibeybi> devicenull: just point the file { } package to a directory with recurse => true | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:18:50] <devicenull> ah cool | ||
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| [2009/04/19 22:25:37] <devicenull> so, port 8140 is the only port puppet needs | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:25:37] <devicenull> ? | ||
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| [2009/04/19 22:31:12] <bob2> by default | ||
| [2009/04/19 22:31:17] <bob2> 8139 if you want to use puppetrun | ||
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