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| [2009/04/14 00:09:02] <eythian> I just ran puppet twice: the first time it took about 30 seconds, and missed some things I knew it should have. The second time it took 110 seconds and ran everything it was supposed to. Why would it do this kind of thing? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 00:12:26] <ohadlevy> eythian: try using --evaltrace to see where the time is spent | ||
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| [2009/04/14 00:18:37] <eythian> ohadlevy: oh, the time is normal. it is doing many things. It's the fact that it sometimes misses over half of the tasks that concerns me. | ||
| [2009/04/14 00:18:58] <ohadlevy> well, thats something in your manifest ;) | ||
| [2009/04/14 00:19:04] <ohadlevy> maybe ordering? | ||
| [2009/04/14 00:21:00] <eythian> ohadlevy: it shouldn't be. With these two runs, nothing should have changed to cause it. | ||
| [2009/04/14 00:21:17] <ohadlevy> than debug is your friend :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 00:24:21] <eythian> I guess, yeah. | ||
| [2009/04/14 00:25:47] <eythian> ahh. I just figured it out. Some of the facts come from an http request to amazon's web service thing. Apparently that fails somewhat regularly. | ||
| [2009/04/14 00:30:35] <ohadlevy> I cache this kind of stuff | ||
| [2009/04/14 00:32:25] <eythian> ohadlevy: yeah. i think I'll do that too. Also put a more robust loader in. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 01:56:00] <FiXion> how can I get puppet to log what module an error occured in? | ||
| [2009/04/14 01:56:16] <FiXion> or if it could just log when it "runs" a certain module | ||
| [2009/04/14 01:56:35] <FiXion> Could not create : Parameter path failed: File paths must be fully qualified | ||
| [2009/04/14 01:56:39] <FiXion> isn't very helpful :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 01:56:46] <FiXion> and I'd hate to have to run the client in verbose mode | ||
| [2009/04/14 01:59:14] <FiXion> the default log entries IMHO ought to be a bit more helpful :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 02:03:58] <ohadlevy> FiXion: usually you get a line number and a filename, which version of puppet are u using? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 02:11:02] <FiXion> 0.24.4 - ubuntu 8.04.2 | ||
| [2009/04/14 02:11:12] <FiXion> we're moving to 9.04 soon though.. | ||
| [2009/04/14 02:11:44] <FiXion> which has 0.24.5.. perhaps I should roll my own package :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 02:11:59] <FiXion> ohadlevy: do you know which version this was fixed in? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 03:00:43] <eythian> a Ruby question: I'm working on a tempate (as an ERB) and have the variable 'domain' which contains, say, 'test.example.com', and I want to search-and-replace it to be 'test\.example\.com' ... how do I do that/ | ||
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| [2009/04/14 03:06:29] <eythian> nm, just found out about .gsub | ||
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| [2009/04/14 04:16:04] <SyTonnerre> Hm | ||
| [2009/04/14 04:16:12] <SyTonnerre> Still nobody pulled my patches ;) | ||
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| [2009/04/14 04:24:03] <duritong> SyTonnerre: ticket number? | ||
| [2009/04/14 04:24:21] <SyTonnerre> duritong, I was instructed to use the github pull request mechanism | ||
| [2009/04/14 04:24:59] <duritong> oh | ||
| [2009/04/14 04:25:16] <SyTonnerre> I re-requested now though | ||
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| [2009/04/14 04:28:30] <duritong> SyTonnerre: usually patches send to -dev with a ticket get merged after positive review on the list | ||
| [2009/04/14 04:30:37] <duritong> process according to wiki:DevelopmentLifecycle | ||
| [2009/04/14 04:30:38] <gepetto> duritong: wiki:DevelopmentLifecycle is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/DevelopmentLifecycle | ||
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| [2009/04/14 05:55:05] <barn> bah, I am getting lots of "Could not retrieve catalog: uninitialized constant Facter::Util::IP" and puppet not running properly | ||
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| [2009/04/14 07:43:37] <Volcane> barn: recently upgraded facter? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 07:45:19] <giles> lo puppetiers | ||
| [2009/04/14 07:45:57] <giles> when trigger a notify for a init based service does puppet try and run a reload? | ||
| [2009/04/14 07:46:06] <giles> or a restart? | ||
| [2009/04/14 07:46:25] <giles> I can see a hasrestart in the docs but not a hasreload | ||
| [2009/04/14 07:46:29] <SyTonnerre> If a reload command is defined, it is usually run | ||
| [2009/04/14 07:47:03] <giles> in the initscript? | ||
| [2009/04/14 07:47:11] <giles> or something in puppet | ||
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| [2009/04/14 08:26:50] <verwilst> you guys have a preference for a puppet gui? | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:26:53] <verwilst> webbased? | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:32:11] <keithlard> i heard there was such a thing, but i never used it | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:33:03] <verwilst> puppetshow | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:33:10] <verwilst> but it needs storedconfig | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:33:33] <verwilst> what exactly does storedconfig do? | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:33:40] <verwilst> does it replace the manifests files? | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:35:00] <verwilst> or does it compile the manifests stuffs, and puts it in a database for faster access? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 08:47:42] <Volcane> kiri: long uptime = bad | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:47:44] <Volcane> oops | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:47:54] <Volcane> wrong # obviously | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:48:13] <Volcane> verwilst: it stores a list of what resources are on what machine | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:48:18] <Volcane> verwilst: not the actual configs | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:48:49] <verwilst> Volcane: that's what i thought ;) | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:48:56] <verwilst> what advantages does it have? | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:49:14] <verwilst> except being able to view them with puppetshow for example? | ||
| [2009/04/14 08:49:19] <Volcane> it enables this feature: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ExportedResources | ||
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| [2009/04/14 08:59:09] <verwilst> Volcane: hm, confusing feature :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 09:05:23] <barn> Volcane: yeah, updated facter | ||
| [2009/04/14 09:05:36] <Volcane> how? | ||
| [2009/04/14 09:05:39] <barn> to 1.5.4-1 | ||
| [2009/04/14 09:06:00] <Volcane> anyway, i think there might be some leftovers from previous versions | ||
| [2009/04/14 09:06:11] <Volcane> uninstall, clear the direcotry in the ruby libdir and reinstall | ||
| [2009/04/14 09:07:33] <barn> wonderful, I shall try that, thank you! | ||
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| [2009/04/14 09:56:25] <Telmo> Volcane: Are you awake? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:00:40] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:01:08] <dsd_> does puppetd place a time limit on file transfers? i am having trouble transferring a 65mb file over a LAN using puppet:/// :( | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:01:13] <dsd_> puppetd[26396]: Connection timeout calling fileserver.retrieve: execution expired | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:01:22] <dsd_> (//File[/library/xs-activity-server/incoming/gcompris.activity.xo]/ensure) change from absent to file failed: Could not retrieve /activities/gcompris.activity.xo: Connection Timeout | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:02:10] <Volcane> dsd: yeah its not a great idea xfering large files with puppet now, better in 0.25 when it comes | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:02:31] <Telmo> Volcane: have you seen this before? http://www.pastie.org/private/hjhmkwfxkkokwbkszvnia | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:02:53] <Telmo> I got it working in Ubuntu, same versions of both pupept and rails.. however RedHat is being... difficult | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:03:15] <dsd_> Volcane: cool, can you summarise what has changed w.r.t file transfers? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:03:22] <Volcane> telmo: seems like it might be installed somewhere where the puppets lib path isnt finding it | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:03:53] <Volcane> dsd: currently file xfers are done with like nasty encoded transfers as part of RPC calls, in future they'll be more 'normal' http get like | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:03:57] <Telmo> [root@storm ~]# which rails | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:03:58] <Telmo> [root@storm ~]# | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:04:05] <Telmo> huh? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:04:12] <dsd_> great | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:04:14] <Telmo> oh right | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:04:19] <Telmo> its in /usr/bin/rails | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:04:21] <dsd_> do you know the current time limit? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:04:33] <dsd_> these servers will be moved to remote locations.. i guess we might face this problem even on small files :( | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:04:33] <Volcane> Telmo: its probably more about the ruby libs than the exe | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:05:00] <Volcane> dsd_: not sure, but i have my master in germany happily serving files to east coast us without troubles generally | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:05:02] <Telmo> man, I hate RedHat, what a awful distro | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:05:34] <dsd_> Volcane: well, i am working in paraguay, and would dream to achieve local speeds comparable to a transatlantic link :( | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:06:05] <Volcane> dsd: i think it'll be fine on smallish files, I wouldnt try xfer 64mb with puppet protocol | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:06:33] <dsd_> ok, thanks for your input | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:07:33] <Volcane> telmo: try in a little file | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:07:36] <Volcane> require 'rubygems' | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:07:40] <Volcane> require 'rails' | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:07:45] <Volcane> or even just in irb or whatever | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:08:12] <Volcane> other wise also just try: require 'active_record' | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:08:21] <Volcane> thats basically all puppet does to try and figure out if it can find rails | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:08:30] <Volcane> see lib/puppet/feature/rails.rb | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:08:55] <Telmo> irb(main):004:0> require 'active_record' | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:08:56] <Telmo> => true | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:08:56] <Telmo> irb(main):005:0> | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:09:31] <Volcane> puts defined? ActiveRecord | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:09:37] <Telmo> it is really frustrating, because it works flawlessly in Ubuntu, following the same steps, as in installing rails from gems | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:03] <Volcane> also try | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:04] <Volcane> if defined? ActiveRecord::Associations::BelongsToPolymorphicAssociation | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:15] <Volcane> puts defined? ActiveRecord::Associations::BelongsToPolymorphicAssociation | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:15] <Volcane> even | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:16] <Telmo> irb(main):006:0> puts defined? ActiveRecord | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:16] <Telmo> constant | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:16] <Telmo> => nil | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:17] <Telmo> irb(main):007:0> | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:23] <Volcane> hmm | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:44] <Volcane> do you have rubygem-activerecord ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:46] <Telmo> irb(main):007:0> puts defined? ActiveRecord::Associations::BelongsToPolymorphicAssociation | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:46] <Telmo> nil | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:46] <Telmo> => nil | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:47] <Telmo> irb(main):008:0> | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:10:55] <Telmo> I do.. | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:11:01] <Telmo> rails gem wont install without | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:11:30] <Volcane> odd | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:11:43] <Volcane> well i only have a ancient box that used to ahve stored confs, so hard to test | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:12:18] <Telmo> its ok, I'll figure it out, I was just wondering if you found a similar issue or not | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:13:41] <Volcane> but if you get this http://pastie.org/446049 then it really should work | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:16:21] <jief-> hello. im trying to setup puppetshow. I found sources at git://reductivelabs.com/puppetshow | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:16:27] <jief-> and also on github.com | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:16:31] <jief-> which is the proper one? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:17:43] <Telmo> irb(main):003:0> require 'active_record' | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:17:43] <Telmo> => true | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:17:43] <Telmo> irb(main):004:0> defined? ActiveRecord::Associations::BelongsToPolymorphicAssociation | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:17:43] <Telmo> => nil | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:17:44] <Telmo> irb(main):005:0> | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:17:48] <Telmo> hummm... | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:17:57] <Telmo> I wonder if it has something to do with rails 2.3 | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:17:58] <Volcane> Telmo: old activerecord maybe | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:18:05] <Volcane> or too new :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:18:15] <Telmo> heh | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:18:39] <Telmo> jief, I don't think either have been updated in quite a while | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:21:32] <jc3`> is there a recommended workaround for "Feature #86" (Directory creation fails if parent directory does not exist)? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:21:33] <gepetto> jc3`: #86 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/86 "Puppet - Feature #86: Directory creation fails if parent directory does not exist - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:21:50] <Volcane> jc3`: yeah, make the parent dir :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:22:48] <jc3`> so if i require 3 "children", i need 3 file resources? (seems a bit verbose) | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:23:46] <Volcane> file{["/path", "/path/to", "/path/to/long", "/path/to/long/dir"]: ensure => directory } | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:23:51] <Volcane> thats the shortest solution | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:24:28] <jief-> Telmo: so i shouldn't use it then? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:24:44] <jc3`> Volcane: that's not so bad! :-) thx | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:25:35] <Telmo> jief-: You may have some issues running it, it uses an old version of rails among other things. not a fun of PHP, but I hear PuppetView is pretty good :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:25:47] <Telmo> ^fun^fan | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:26:07] <jief-> Telmo: ya ive been fighting with it for 2 hours | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:26:18] <jief-> building .deb packages for lots of ruby stuff | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:26:23] <jief-> ill look into puppetview | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:27:26] <Telmo> as an alternative you can write your own rails app to connect to puppet's StoredConfig and feed from there. | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:27:50] <Telmo> or you can wait a couple of weeks until I finish with the one I am writing heh | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:28:16] <jief-> Telmo: i need something in order to deliver the solution | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:28:50] <jief-> and then i have to tackle the really interesting part: deploying the client on over 2000 servers | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:29:26] <Telmo> what base os | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:29:39] <jief-> mainly ubuntu | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:29:42] <Telmo> you are talking about .deb so I assume Debian/Ubuntu | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:29:44] <jief-> some redhat/centos/solaris | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:30:07] <Telmo> for solaris you only need 3 packages | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:30:31] <jief-> i dont think we'll manage our solaris boxens with it for now | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:30:43] <jief-> since what we use solaris for is very missing-critical\ | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:30:55] <Telmo> I am doing mainly solaris and puppet works like a charm | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:31:36] <Telmo> but I understand the concern | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:32:35] <jief-> its just that its gonna be new for all of us | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:32:43] <jief-> what runs on linux is mainly a bunch of Apache's | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:32:47] <jief-> and we have lots of them | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:32:55] <jief-> but the solaris ones are where the money is generated | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:33:06] <jief-> and just to patch them, we need to plan a month in advance kinda thing | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:33:17] <jief-> i guess i'll script something | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:34:11] <jief-> is your product going to support enterprise stuff like RBAC and LDAP/KRB auth? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:35:08] <joe-mac> can wildcards be anywhere in a domain name in the namespace ACLs? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:35:20] <joe-mac> for instance puppet.*.yoursite.com, would that work? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:35:26] <Telmo> it is not a product, it is something I am writing to use "in house" and I will release a open source version of it. | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:35:42] <jief-> Telmo: ok | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:36:00] <jief-> the issue with most webgui that are open source, is usually with authentication and roles | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:37:11] <Telmo> adding LDAP auth to the authentication plugging is fairly easy | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:37:48] <Telmo> I haven't found any robusts KRB5 ruby libraries though | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:38:32] <jief-> I can live with LDAP as long as SSL/TLS support is there | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:38:41] <jief-> krb5 is something we'll roll out next year maybe | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:44:14] <joe-mac> so the other day i rm'd /etc/apache2 (don't ask) and when i re applied the puppet manifest, a bunch of stuff failed so i looked and /etc/apache2/sites-available was completely empty. Manually re installing apache2.2-common didn't replace those files, and i heard that there is a switch to do this with dpkg or apt... any way i can tell puppet to tell apt to do that? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:44:29] <joe-mac> i mean mods-available** | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:44:54] <cwebber> does any1 know of a way to ensure that a particular class before all other classes? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:45:23] <joe-mac> cwebber: have you tried require => Class["bar"] in Class["foo"]'s body? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:45:24] <joe-mac> o | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:45:35] <joe-mac> all classes, nm :-( | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:46:11] <cwebber> joe-mac: that would work if you could do a require in the body of the class | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:46:51] <jc3`> regarding variable scope and inheritance, is this true? nodes CAN override variables via inheritance but classes CANNOT. | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:47:06] <cwebber> i think there is a require function in 0.25.x | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:47:56] <Telmo> Volcane: yes, StoredConfig does not work with Rails 2.3.2 | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:48:14] <Telmo> actually, I assume it wont work with any of the 2.3.* | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:48:29] <jief-> joe-mac: dpkg-reconfigure or apt-get install --reinstall | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:49:24] <jc3`> cwebber: can you make all your classes inherit from that particular class? | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:49:41] <cwebber> jc3: that wont work | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:50:11] <joe-mac> nice, thanks jief- i forget abvout dpkg-reconfigure all the time for some reason | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:50:47] <cwebber> jc3: it is one of those chicken and egg problems... i dont want to require the class if the dependent class is running on a "legacy" system but bootstraping is a problem on newly provisioned systems | ||
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| [2009/04/14 10:53:33] <jief-> joe-mac: np | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:53:44] <jief-> i dislike debian's dpkg/apt-get mess though | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:53:50] <jief-> i much prefer rpm and yum | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:53:57] <jief-> its such a cleaner system | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:57:40] <joe-mac> i tend to agree but that may be the diff of years i spent on RH-based vs deb based | ||
| [2009/04/14 10:59:40] <brothers> as soon as rpm dependency resolution worked, i switched from debian to fedora | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:01:24] <jief-> and yum is written in Python | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:01:30] <jief-> which makes it cooler just because of that ;) | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:25:53] <jlamsens> Hi, anyone can help me with this: http://pastebin.com/m4f134e66 | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:25:56] <jlamsens> thanks in advance | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:28:52] <jlamsens> small typo: this is correct now: http://pastebin.com/m28ec467d | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:29:53] <ruedu> looking for a bit of help on transferring large files and how to get clients to know when that file is been updated | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:31:00] <dsd_> ruedu: i learned today that puppet:// and large files dont work together. cant even transfer 65mb over a lan :/ maybe use rsync or nfs instead | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:31:03] <joe-mac> ruedu: transferring large files through puppet? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:31:13] <joe-mac> yea, dsd_ is correct | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:31:23] <joe-mac> even a lot of small files is excruciatingly slow | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:31:35] <ruedu> rsync and nfs are fine, but how do I get the client to realize when the remote file has been modified? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:31:52] <joe-mac> diff the md5's through ssh? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:32:08] <ruedu> so it is then a manual process? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:32:26] <ruedu> the exec { "blah blah": refreshonly => true} won't work? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:32:29] <joe-mac> you can script that easily, i do it here as part of the QA push | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:33:28] <joe-mac> well, IMO it'd be easier to use an onlyif the md5s differ, or unless the md5s are the same | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:33:56] <joe-mac> so you'd have exec { "rsync something over": onlyif => "md5saredifferent" } | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:34:33] <ruedu> how do I define md5saredifferent, or is that built in? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:35:18] <ruedu> sorry, I'm pretty green so... | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:35:42] <ruedu> and who ends up running the md5? the client or the server? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:35:55] <joe-mac> NP i am too only a couple months in, onlyif accepts a shell command | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:36:16] <ruedu> and it is run on the server side or client side? that script? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:36:27] <joe-mac> it runs it on the node | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:36:41] <ruedu> so then NFS is probably the best way to go | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:36:52] <joe-mac> yea tehn you don't have to use SSH keys | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:37:12] <ruedu> so I need to come up with a recipe to first ensure the client has the required NFS share mounted | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:37:54] <ruedu> md5 the source files | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:37:59] <ruedu> copy them onlyif they've changed | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:38:21] <joe-mac> correct | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:39:03] <ruedu> when was puppet "born" ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:39:53] <joe-mac> gotta be a few years, best to ask lak | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:39:55] <joe-mac> it is his baby | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:40:04] <joe-mac> on his blog there is a history of puppet thing | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:40:10] <joe-mac> luke.madstop.com i think it is | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:40:11] <jlamsens> Really no one for http://pastebin.com/m28ec467d ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:40:16] <lak> ruedu: first prototype was 2004, officially launched as a full-time project in march of 2005 | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:40:32] <joe-mac> jlamsens: HOLY S**&) whats up with your tabstops | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:41:09] <ruedu> lak: thanks, | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:41:10] <jlamsens> I want to show you the hierarchy | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:41:25] <jlamsens> Does it look bad/unreadable maybe ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:42:03] <joe-mac> jlamsens: it's kinda bad, i wouldn't say unreadable though, do you have a problem or? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:42:57] <jlamsens> joe-mac; thanks for listening. I have a problem indeed; I want to override some variable that I specified, namely the mysql root password, but it does not seem to work, and maybe I made a mistake | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:44:35] <joe-mac> you can't override variables afaik, someone earlier speculated you could in node defs but not classes, all i know is i was told day one you can't re-define variables | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:46:09] <jlamsens> joe-mac; maybe this is better readable: http://acoustica.be/puppet.txt | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:46:53] <jlamsens> are u sure ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:46:55] <joe-mac> yea you can't do that jlamsens you could do something like with a selector or case statement | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:47:29] <jlamsens> joe-mac; could you push me in the right direction with some kind of example in my case ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:47:48] <joe-mac> yea, give me a few i am doing some major re factoring of my puppet stuff atm | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:49:30] <jlamsens> joe-mac; ok, I'll wait a bit | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:50:54] <joe-mac> jlamsens: does this make sense to you? not sure uif it will work in your case but i do it in my defines for when i need to modify variables sometimes http://www.pastie.org/446161 | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:53:02] <jlamsens> joe-mac; hmm, I don't think that make sense for me. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 11:53:46] <joe-mac> yea it may not, might make more sense to write a bash script and serve it out via puppet then require it in an exec | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:54:17] <jlamsens> joe-mac; thanks anyway | ||
| [2009/04/14 11:54:36] <joe-mac> np | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:13:53] <barn> is the "if $foo { }" notation in puppet yet, or am I missing it? (searching for 'if' is impossible) | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:14:22] <Volcane> barn: wiki:LanguageTutorial | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:14:26] <gepetto> Volcane: barn: wiki:LanguageTutorial is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageTutorial | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:14:35] <barn> Volcane: thank you! | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:14:42] <barn> you hero! (again) | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:14:48] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:16:45] <hacim> in 0.24.8 this went away: VersionComparer.versioncmp(Puppet.version,'0.24.6') -- what can I change that to? | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:17:06] <Volcane> versioncmp in 0.24.8 is broken | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:17:06] <barn> Volcane: ah, that's why, I'm running some ancient debian version... ): | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:23:02] <Volcane> its easily fixed if you fancy patching the package :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:23:04] <Volcane> just one line | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:23:37] <Volcane> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2110 | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:26:46] <hacim> Volcane: thanks | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:27:50] <hacim> that wasn't a problem in -rc1 :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:28:06] <Volcane> thats odd | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:28:25] <hacim> looks like I can do Simply adding ':type => :rvalue' to the newfunction() call fixes it. | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:28:32] <hacim> until the fix is available | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:28:34] <Volcane> yup, as in the ticket i pasted :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:28:52] <hacim> I assume thats literal, and rvalue doesn't mean something | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:29:13] <Volcane> yeah it tells it its a function that returns a value | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:33:29] <joe-mac> pre-commit hooks ftw | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:38:26] <barn> why is storeconfigs so flakey/painful ): | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:38:49] <joe-mac> because anything complex is flakey/painful | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:39:13] <barn> I'm just going to blame rails | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:39:19] <lak> i'm cool with that | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:39:28] <lak> barn: what's flakey about it? | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:39:34] <lak> i know it's slow, but i didn't knw it was flakey | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:40:06] <barn> to be fair, it's the activerecord side that I have pain with | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:41:06] <barn> and now I've just upgraded puppetmasterd and I've broken it again.. (: | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:42:35] <Telmo> storedconfigs wont work with activerecord 2.3.2 | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:43:03] <barn> Telmo: I found that out, after a painful couple of days ): | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:43:21] <Telmo> not that is really matters if puppet is moving away from rails. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:44:06] <barn> it is? oh that makes me happy | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:45:34] <Telmo> I just hope it moves to something DB backed.. so I can write a rails app to read it lol | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:47:52] <ruedu> what kinds of systems are people using to run the master on? | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:48:17] <ruedu> we're testing using a VM that has 256MB of ram | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:48:22] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:48:30] <Volcane> you'd need much more for anything real | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:48:56] <ruedu> why? | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:49:03] <ruedu> is it all in the md5'ing? | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:49:25] <barn> realist: 4gig, dual proc 2.6 xeon (it does other stuff, like dns/ntp/nagios too though) | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:49:27] <Volcane> masters need lots of ram, i cant really say why with certainty but you need loads | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:49:48] <barn> it needs less ram with activerecord 2.2.2 (: | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:49:59] <Volcane> http://pastie.org/446229 | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:50:13] <Volcane> thats without stored confs | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:50:21] <Volcane> cos stored confs just make it chew through ram and cpu like mad | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:51:10] <ruedu> seems ridiculous, but I don't understand what is all going on | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:51:15] <Volcane> theres a bigger one http://pastie.org/446231 | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:51:24] <ruedu> I didn't think I'd need to best my db servers to manage some config files | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:52:15] <teratoma> can you tell me why this doesn't do anything?: http://pastebin.com/m69c96d50 | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:53:06] <Volcane> teratoma: do you 'include installed-packages' anywhere? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:55:36] <teratoma> ok nevermind. restarting puppetmaster fixed it. i wrote the class file hours ago though, dunno why it didnt pick it up | ||
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| [2009/04/14 12:58:43] <FreakyPenguin> If I want to use puppet to manage the installed packages, how can i manage updates? When will newer Versions get installed when I use ensure latest version? | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:58:56] <Volcane> ensure => "1.2" | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:58:58] <Volcane> or | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:59:01] <Volcane> ensure => "latest" | ||
| [2009/04/14 12:59:20] <Volcane> if ensure latest, and you use something like yum/deb it'll update as soon as the repos have it and puppet runs | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:00:08] <FreakyPenguin> Ah okay, thx. | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:00:12] <teratoma> in a class file, how can i require a define from another class ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:00:17] <Telmo> when in your file definition you do puppet:// is it taking as the root for that puppet:// what is define as path in the [files] section in fileserver.conf ? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 13:00:39] <Volcane> telmo: puppet://servername/fileservermount/filename | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:01:20] <Telmo> humm... puppet://puppet/opt/files/my_file ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:01:24] <Telmo> that seems.. odd | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:01:34] <FreakyPenguin> So i wont need anything except puppet to manage a whole bunch of workstations including updates and config files? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:01:38] <teratoma> have you tried puppet:/// | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:01:40] <Volcane> no, if you have [files] in fileserver.conf | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:01:46] <teratoma> then the file would be in /etc/puppet/files/........... | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:01:49] <Volcane> then you have puppet://server/files/foo | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:01:58] <Volcane> which would point to file foo under the path= specified in fileserver.conf | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:02:00] <Telmo> yah, that;s what I meant | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:02:47] <Volcane> yeah so thats right then | ||
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| [2009/04/14 13:02:52] <Telmo> I am just trying to troubleshoot a "err: Fileserver module 'puppet' not mounted" | ||
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| [2009/04/14 13:03:06] <Volcane> telmo: show your source => line | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:04:11] <Telmo> source => "puppet://puppet.bgal.nj.ula.comcast.net/puppet/managed_files/system/krb5.conf" | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:04:30] <Volcane> ok, so given what i said: " puppet://servername/fileservermount/filename" | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:04:41] <Volcane> you're asking for the fileserver.conf section names 'puppet' | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:05:17] <Volcane> servname = foo.comcast.net, mount=puppet, file=managed_files/system/krb5.conf | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:06:02] <Telmo> ok I see the problem | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:06:17] <Telmo> I am missing the [puppet] section | ||
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| [2009/04/14 13:07:22] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:07:43] <Volcane> though you should look at modules instead of loose classes serving up files from a single file mount, they're much easier to maintain | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:07:57] <Volcane> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:13:08] * bevans5446 resumes mission to get ruby/puppet/facter running on Redhat 8 | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:13:26] <ruedu> RH8? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:13:36] <bevans5446> yup | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:13:56] <ruedu> time to update :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:14:05] <bevans5446> haha, no shit | ||
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| [2009/04/14 13:14:35] <ruedu> I shouldn't talk, I think I have one box running RH6.2... | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:14:56] <bevans5446> I have about 8 servers that aren't in my puppet setup that *must* bet assimilated | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:15:17] <bevans5446> wow, 6.2. I don't feel so bad now | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:15:30] * Volcane has a 6.0 | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:15:37] <Volcane> but not in puppet :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:16:11] <bevans5446> I'm not sure how much success I'm goingto have here | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:16:31] <bevans5446> rh8 actually comes with ruby 1.6.7 | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:16:32] <ruedu> bevans5446: what type of things are you managing using puppet? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:17:13] <bevans5446> system level stuff. Setting up user authentication, ssh, sudoers, etc | ||
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| [2009/04/14 13:18:39] <Volcane> I'm surprised puppet works on 1.8.1 | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:18:59] <bevans5446> puppet will not be doing as much on the rh8 boxes as it does on the new ones | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:19:22] <bevans5446> yeah, thats my next task, getting the FC11 ruby rpm's compiled for CE4 & 5 | ||
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| [2009/04/14 13:40:20] <edwardam> any reason why something like unless => "grep ${somevariable} /var/log/messages" results in only "grep /var/log/messages" being run ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:40:42] <ruedu> variable is empty? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 13:53:14] <edwardam> ruedu: nope, or at least it shouldn't be. It's set right above it. | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:53:27] <edwardam> right above the exec anyway. | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:53:44] <edwardam> and in other cases (for testing) it's set in the enclosing node | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:54:04] <teratoma> how would i subscribe a service to any file that happens to be in a certain directory ? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:56:36] <hMz> when did reports show up in puppet? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:56:49] <Volcane> yonks ago | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:56:58] <hMz> pre 0.24.4? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:57:02] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:57:10] <hMz> well, i cant make it work then! | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:57:44] <Volcane> yeah quite a common theme here :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:57:52] <hMz> haha | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:57:59] <hMz> thats all i'm good for | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:58:18] <hMz> i did everything on the wikipages, am i missing some magic? | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:58:44] <ruedu> edwardam: I'm not much help beyond that right now | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:58:48] <Volcane> report = true in all puppet configs | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:58:59] <Volcane> in [puppetd] section | ||
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| [2009/04/14 13:59:24] <Volcane> and thats it really, i dont think I did anything special past that | ||
| [2009/04/14 13:59:58] <hMz> thats what i did | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:00:02] <hMz> restarted clients and servers | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:00:06] <Volcane> then you get /var/lib/puppet/reports/<all nodes> | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:00:07] <hMz> and $vardir/reports is empty | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:00:25] <Volcane> hmm, and speaking of which i've 10k files in mine | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:00:30] <Volcane> 20k even | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:00:34] * hMz is jealous | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:00:44] <hMz> so should i run the server in debug or something? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:02:13] <Volcane> when you run puppetd --test at the end do you see: info: Sent transaction report in 0.05 seconds | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:02:48] <nDuff> lak, tried using --graph per your suggestion; the edges responsible for causing the sporadic cycle weren't present in its output, despite running with the same manifest. | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:03:13] <lak> nDuff: which .dot file are you looking at? i recommend the expanded_relationships file | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:03:25] <nDuff> lak, yar, I went for the one with the most content. | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:04:17] <lak> nDuff: you have a sporadic cycle? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:04:17] <lak> erm | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:04:28] <lak> did you look at the .dot graph from a failing run? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:05:28] <nDuff> lak, I don't have a failing run built with --graph at present; I used "cycle2dot", a script Deepak wrote, to build a .dot file from the error message reporting the cycle, and compared it against one built with --graph during a failed run. | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:05:42] <lak> ah | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:05:47] @ Quit: pheezy: "Leaving..." | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:06:03] <lak> you work with deepak, right? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:06:05] <nDuff> yup | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:06:12] <lak> sorry, i didn't hash your nick correctly | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:06:20] <lak> didn't realize you were a customer :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:06:55] <nDuff> lak, np | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:07:07] <lak> i wish my irc client would do the hashing for me :/ | ||
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| [2009/04/14 14:09:24] @ Topic is "Puppet 0.24.8 released! http://tinyurl.com/cv2tq2 | Tickets, bugs and features at http://tinyurl.com/46ryk7" | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:09:24] @ Topic set by jamesturnbull on Mon Mar 23 07:50:35 -0400 2009 | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:09:33] @ Mode +tnc by kornbluth.freenode.net | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:09:46] <hMz> no, sir | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:09:49] <hMz> it actually doesnt show any of my proper values | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:09:49] <Volcane> I'd say you have left over /etc/puppet/puppetd.conf from a previous version perhaps? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:10:09] <Volcane> should only have /etc/puppet/puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:10:22] <hMz> use 0.24.4 | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:10:34] <hMz> isnt that still puppetd.conf? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:10:41] <hMz> oh wait,nm | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:10:42] <Volcane> no, should be puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:10:45] <hMz> it is puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:10:50] <Volcane> puppetd.conf should be deleted if its there | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:10:52] <hMz> and the /etc/puppet dir comes right out of svn | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:10:54] <Telmo> Volcane I need a sanity check :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:11:02] <hMz> and is current according to svn | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:11:22] <Volcane> hmz: ok, so puppetd --genconfig does what exactly? tons of nice commented stuff that looks like a config file, or omething else? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 14:13:35] <hMz> oh | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:13:36] <hMz> you meant from the client | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:13:39] <hMz> i was running it on the server | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:13:42] <Volcane> yeah client | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:13:43] <hMz> which explains that :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:13:45] <Volcane> client sends report to server :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:14:51] <hMz> hmm | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:15:00] <hMz> so i run it on the client and it shows some but not all settings | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:15:09] <hMz> oh nm, i'm lame | ||
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| [2009/04/14 14:15:11] <hMz> its report = true | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:15:28] <hMz> cat /etc/puppet/puppet.conf | grep 'report = ' | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:15:28] <hMz> report = true | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:15:50] <hMz> genconfig says false | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:17:14] <Volcane> in what section of the file do you have report = true in puppet.conf? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:17:50] <hMz> [puppet] | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:17:56] <hMz> initialy i had it set in both | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:17:58] <Volcane> make it [puppetd] | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:18:00] <hMz> which is what i thought might be the problem | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:18:01] <Volcane> or even [main] | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:19:02] <hMz> oh wait is it suppose to be [puppetd] and not [puppet]? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:19:10] <Volcane> yes, since you're running puppetd | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:19:23] <Volcane> the sections in the file correspond to program/daemon name :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:19:30] <Volcane> put it in [main] and it applies to them all | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:19:30] <hMz> ahhh | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:19:33] <hMz> so that explains a lot! | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:20:12] <hMz> now that i changed it | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:20:14] <hMz> genconfig is working | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:20:24] <lak> hMz: my recommendation is always put everything in main unless you need different values for different executables | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:20:32] <Volcane> k so see if you get the line i pasted above from puppetd --test | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:20:44] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:21:04] <hMz> even for puppetmasterd? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:21:27] <lak> yes | ||
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| [2009/04/14 14:22:23] <hMz> huh, ok | ||
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| [2009/04/14 14:22:59] <hMz> boom. thanks Volcane | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:23:11] <Volcane> no probs | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:23:12] <hMz> some day i need to paypal you a zebra | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:23:18] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:23:22] <hMz> dont let me forget! | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:25:19] * Volcane 's happy to share his amazon wishlist with anyone who wants it :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:26:26] <jrojas> what would be the best way for puppet to gather a list of files in a directory on a client and then use that list in a template? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:27:10] <hMz> hrm | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:27:17] <hMz> so any clues on how i point this at a specific box behind a lb? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:27:32] <hMz> its complaining about cert mismatch because of the common cert not matching the specific hostname of the server | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:27:33] <Volcane> jrojas: only way is via facts, that might not be a good idea though depending on the maount of files you're talking about | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:28:03] <Maliuta> hMz: I see your zebra and raise you a white tailed spider | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:28:03] <Maliuta> I have one in the back yard right now | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:28:04] <jrojas> Volcane: it should be no more than 3 at any given time, its just the file names may vary...maybe i should make the file names not vary.. | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:28:09] <Volcane> hMz: the best way is to just add a cname in dns for 'puppet' and leave them all on default then certnames will match | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:28:45] <Volcane> jrojas: then i guess a fact is ok, just make it say | delimited list of files and split it in the template into an array | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:29:00] <hMz> Volcane: so i have something similar, only its not puppet its my own arbitrary name but they all have a common cert for that common name and its not matching the specific host cert for just reporting | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:29:04] <hMz> i'd like to only report in one place (obviously) | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:29:13] <jrojas> Volcane: thats what I was thinking, i just wanted to make sure I didnt forget anything. | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:29:20] <Volcane> ah you want to send reports to just one host in your lb? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:29:34] <hMz> i guess i'll have to play with the traffic somehow | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:29:42] <hMz> or specify a special port for just reporting | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:29:45] <hMz> i assume its hostname:port | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:29:53] <Volcane> nods, not sure what the viable options are for that | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:30:06] <Volcane> past report=true i've not done much with it - other than show reports on a web ui | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:30:47] <hMz> i think i can make it work | ||
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| [2009/04/14 14:37:56] <jrojas> is this in the current relase? http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/311 | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:38:18] <jrojas> or did people decide it was easier to make the cron time random with sleep? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 14:39:37] <jrojas> hmm looks like it is | ||
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| [2009/04/14 14:43:08] <joe-mac> runinterval is in seconds in puppet.conf right? | ||
| [2009/04/14 14:45:20] <stevenjenkins> if anyone is trying to test out the new storeconfigs going to queues, let me know. the final interface is still in a bit of flux, so there may be some nits we need to iron out. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 14:58:45] <hacim> Volcane: hrm, i applied the patch and yet I am still getting: private method `versioncmp' called for Puppet::Parser::TemplateWrapper::VersionComparer:Class | ||
| [2009/04/14 15:01:02] <hacim> hrm, maybe the clients need to be updated | ||
| [2009/04/14 15:02:34] <gwar9999> Where is puppetshow located? The Doc index link is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppetshow which appears broken. | ||
| [2009/04/14 15:04:22] <hacim> hrm, no that doesn't seem to fix it | ||
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| [2009/04/14 15:25:24] <nasrat> evening | ||
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| [2009/04/14 15:38:47] <jrojas> hm | ||
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| [2009/04/14 15:54:44] <andrewcshafer> nasrat: Long time no see | ||
| [2009/04/14 15:55:57] <nasrat> work travel and holidays | ||
| [2009/04/14 15:56:24] <andrewcshafer> happens :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:00:11] <jrojas> is there a wiki page with a list of the namespaces? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 16:29:39] <jbooth> Puppet's debugging when it can't find a resource type is less useful than it could be... | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:29:53] <jbooth> (when you're developing custom resources) | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:33:28] <nasrat> jbooth: can you expand (or paste examples to gist/pastie) | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:33:50] <nasrat> and also maybe say what would make it easier | ||
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| [2009/04/14 16:35:35] <jbooth> nasrat: Could not retrieve catalog: Could not find resource type firewall ... | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:36:10] <jbooth> nasrat: fails to say what the load error is with type/firewall.rb or provider/firewall/iptables.rb. I'm sure there's a problem parsing one of the two. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 16:36:32] <nasrat> ok, and out of curiosity what is your dev, test cycle? | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:37:56] <jbooth> nasrat: I'm trying to define a custom type in a module, so I updated it on puppetmaster, restart puppetmaster, then run puppet | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:38:25] <nasrat> ok - I'm just kinda thinking how to make the feedback better | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:40:57] <nasrat> have you run with --trace --debug | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:41:21] <jbooth> nasrat: I never run puppet by hand without --test and --debug, but I'm not sure about trace. I don't include it explicitly | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:41:34] <nasrat> ok | ||
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| [2009/04/14 16:41:49] <jbooth> nasrat: okay, trace helps a bunch | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:42:01] <jbooth> nasrat: it'd still be nice if the error without it could be a bit more detailed | ||
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| [2009/04/14 16:44:43] <hMz> anyone know if reportserver accepts hostname:port? | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:45:24] <nasrat> sure - we could do with figuring out improving how to get appropriate feedback and also good puppet dev practices for the puppet language | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:46:57] <jrojas> nasrat: isnt there a style guide already? | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:47:08] <hMz> yup | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:47:32] <hMz> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetBestPractice | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:47:45] <hMz> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/StyleGuide | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:47:52] <nasrat> jrojas: sure but actually good practices can be helped with tools - cf xUnit or BDD (rspec, jbehave) | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:48:30] <nasrat> and getting the feedback at the right place, isn't something that style really fixes | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:50:12] <gwar9999> is it okay to have a class named puppet? Just checking since I'm seeing a can't compile error and not sure what the prob is yet. | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:51:47] <hMz> yes | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:52:03] <hMz> i've got one | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:52:13] <gwar9999> thanks, safe for a module name too? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 16:55:28] <hMz> yup | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:55:29] <hMz> i have one of those too | ||
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| [2009/04/14 16:55:37] <hMz> and i'm using 0.24.4 | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:55:43] <gwar9999> hMz: thanks... now I know my problem lies elsewhere. | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:55:53] <gepetto> ::trac:: Using Passenger edited by zeha @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingPassenger (by hofstaedtler@inqnet.at) | ||
| [2009/04/14 16:56:15] <hMz> i know how that goes | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:01:54] <gwar9999> yeah, I sure wish the "cannot compile" error provided some additional details! | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:07:50] <nasrat> gwar9999, jbooth if I were to try and collect some skeletal puppet code that typifies getting things like cannot compile error | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:08:16] <nasrat> would you be able to take a bit of time to pare down examples you hit? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:08:44] <gwar9999> nasrat: sure... if I can figure out the cause, that is. Working on it now. | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:08:57] <nasrat> sure | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:09:25] <mconigliaro> can anyone tell me why this doesnt work? it seems to work for me with classes, but not nodes: http://pastie.org/446581 | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:09:27] <jbooth> nasrat: I can try. | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:09:36] <mconigliaro> in "someclass" $var is not defined | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:09:49] <nasrat> I'm interested in pitfalls, issues debugging, stuff like that | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:09:59] <mconigliaro> but it should be set to "whatever" | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:10:10] <nasrat> so I can take it away and change it into solid improvements | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:10:15] <nasrat> either in docs or in code | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:10:48] <nasrat> wiki:TypeReference | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:11:02] <gepetto> nasrat: wiki: wiki:TypeReference is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:16:38] <gwar9999> nasrat: nevermind... this time my compile error was my fault. I code mostly in python and I accidentally named the file init.pp as init.py. D'oh. so naturally, puppet couldn't find that file. Of course, if the file doesn't exist that could be a useful error message. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:17:48] <nasrat> gwar9999: still a useful example for improving messages, ENOENT should be propogated | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:19:10] <gwar9999> True, the more specific an error message is the easier it is to fix. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:26:43] <jbooth> Is there any documentation on what is actually passed to a provider's self.prefetch() method? I know it is the "resources" but that's vague and #{resources.inspect} is spammy and far too much to parse through to get an understanding of it. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:27:41] <radix> does puppet have a dry-run mode? | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:28:00] <nDuff> radix, yes, --noop | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:28:07] <radix> oh, awesome | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:28:49] <taylorj> likely a simple question: I"m setting up for ubuntu. Is there a default package provider setup? Such as ubuntu => apt-get | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:29:51] <nDuff> taylorj, yes, it should Do The Right Thing out-of-the-box | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:30:01] <radix> nDuff: thanks very much | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:30:28] <taylorj> thanks as well nDuff. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:37:20] <Volcane> lak: will the queue config thing also support user/password options? ruby stomp doesnt parse the full stomp urls with user/pass embedded afaik so needs to be set by the code, defo need to store those in the puppet.conf too | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:40:09] <lak> Volcane: you know, i hadn't even thought of that | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:40:16] <Volcane> its nb++ | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:40:21] <lak> nb? | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:40:25] <Volcane> very important :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:40:49] <Volcane> all my machines can talk to my amq servers, even customer ones, so i use loads of acl/users/etc | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:42:08] <gwar9999> is there a way to force a particular class to process before everything else? For instance, I have a puppet class which may restart puppet, so I'd like that to occur first. I know I could probably put requires => Service['puppet'] in every other module but that seems tedious and potentially error prone. | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:42:40] <Volcane> on my amq sits code to manipulate firewalls in real time, things to manage all my exim mail queues etc, so security is very important | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:42:59] <Volcane> gwar9999: pretty sure you asked this yesterday or last week too? :) | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:44:25] <gwar9999> probably, but that was probably before I actually began to implement this sort of thing on a widely used class. I think last time it was just between 2 classes (do one before the other) whereas this is do this class then everything else. | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:44:42] <Volcane> short answer is no, long answer is theres a ton of nasty hacks to do it | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:45:06] <gwar9999> Would be a nice feature, no? | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:45:22] <Volcane> we might ask lak how feasable it would be to hook in noop resources into the parser tree, something like Meta["start"] and Meta["end"] that by default sits at the start/end of the resource tree | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:45:24] <nasrat> but with a tsort partial ordering is possible | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:45:36] <Volcane> that you could then simply say require => Meta["end"] or something lame like that | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:45:47] <lak> nasrat: yeah, i've been thinking about partial ordering | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:45:49] <Volcane> so the things that require it, would just go to the end | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:45:57] <lak> but i don't quite know enough about how to do it | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:45:59] <nasrat> the problem is applying special meaning to the sort is really brittle | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:46:01] <lak> if you've got some ideas... | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:46:03] <Volcane> *no* idea how feasable that is to code, but to use, that would be sweet :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:46:12] <lak> nasrat: btw, you know i'm going to be in london in ten days, right? | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:46:17] <nasrat> lak: what are you trying to achieve | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:46:19] <nasrat> lak: yes | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:46:57] <lak> heh, i don't really know what i'm trying to achive; making it easy to have things pinned to the beginning or end without losing the whole graph concept, i guess | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:47:23] <gwar9999> I don't know enough about the puppet internals to know if it's feasible, but looks like iak and nasrat do :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:47:53] <lak> it's more of a graph modeling question than a puppet internals question | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:48:24] <gwar9999> I don't know much about that either. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:52:43] <ghoneycutt> anyone heading to linuxfest northwest? | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:56:22] <lak> Volcane: you're sure that Stomp clients don't support usernames and passwords in the URI, huh? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 17:56:35] <Volcane> unless its a new feature since my version... | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:57:14] <Volcane> the rdoc for mine has it in a TODO Stomp URL: section | ||
| [2009/04/14 17:57:39] <Volcane> and last time i visited the stomp site - like last week - it was totally screwed up :P | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:00:29] <Volcane> ah, 1.1 does support it | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:00:46] <Volcane> so i guess people just need to know to use 1.1 if they want user/pass in the url | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:10:40] <Volcane> ah yeah and the comments in lib/puppet/util/queue/stomp.rb does say passwords would work :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:11:32] <nasrat> Volcane: can we enforce that via the requires? | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:11:51] <nasrat> or is it the bus that needs to support it? | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:12:17] <Volcane> not all stomp server support it i think, have defo seen some while deciding on which to use that simply didnt support user/pass auth | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:14:35] <nasrat> suck | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:14:44] <lak> the base stompserver doesn't seem to be working easily, anyway | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:14:47] <Volcane> everyone should just use amq :P | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:14:57] <nasrat> surely amqp | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:15:06] <Volcane> active mq | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:15:06] <nasrat> you have a space and a colon wrong | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:15:09] <nasrat> no | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:15:17] <nasrat> active mq is very, very broken | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:15:21] <Volcane> why? | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:16:31] <lak> nasrat: who has a space and a colon wrong? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:16:59] <mfoster> so naginator only works with nagios 3.x now? | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:17:06] <nasrat> I can't go into details but my previous company had multiple clients with different issues with paid support, with serious issues involving message loss | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:17:23] <nasrat> sorry - , with paid support | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:17:35] <Volcane> nasrat: ah, nasty | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:18:18] <nasrat> and the general feeling from that was if the devs can't fix it then it may not be prod ready | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:18:38] <nasrat> so I'm happy to look at amqp | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:18:53] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:19:01] <nasrat> lak: sorry poor formatting joke with Volcane | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:19:09] <lak> mfoster: does it? i didn't think we'd made it 3.x only | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:19:12] <lak> nasrat: ah | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:19:24] <lak> i was testing it right then, wondering if you knew something i didn't... | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:20:57] <mfoster> lak: I'm referring to custom object variables and the _naginator_name | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:21:19] <lak> ah, because those are 3.x only? | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:21:23] <mfoster> it seems to break nagios 2.12 | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:22:03] <lak> ah | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:22:14] <lak> that wasn't really made clear when i accepted those patches | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:22:42] <Volcane> nasrat: well i dont use it for high volume anyway, probably in the region of 100k messages a day and not noticed any problem, though I also wouldnt notice if 1/2 of those messages went missing | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:24:13] <mfoster> I wonder what the deploy base of nagios3 is to nagios2 :( | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:25:34] <lak> Volcane: ok, i've successfully gotten stomp authenticating using in-uri user/pass | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:25:45] <lak> so i'll just leave it at that, but add the info to the queueing readme | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:25:47] <lak> that work? | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:25:54] <Volcane> lak: kewl, that sounds great | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:32:06] <mfoster> lak: should I file a bug? | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:32:14] <lak> i guess so? | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:32:21] <lak> i don't really know how to fix it, though :/ | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:36:30] <taylorj> Hi all I asked earlier about using apt-get as a package provider. I've added it for ubuntu but receive the error: "Parameter provider failed: Invalid package provider 'apt-get'. Suggestions? | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:37:20] <barn> w 8 | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:37:24] <barn> gah! | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:37:29] <barn> thanks irssi ): | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:38:12] <sub> try just 'apt' or maybe it's 'dpkg' | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:38:48] <taylorj> thank you sub; using 'apt' worked | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:38:57] <sub> np | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:40:11] <sub> it also supports aptitude | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:42:10] <sub> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#package | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:42:34] * bevans5446 just got puppet working on Redhat 8 :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:42:38] <taylorj> wow, well that would have been handy. couldn't find it in the orginal docs. thanks | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:42:58] <sub> feels tough to navigate around the site sometimes | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:47:06] <bevans5446> sub: yeah it does. I ended up bookmarking the links I visit the most | ||
| [2009/04/14 18:47:10] <ghoneycutt> sub: yea, when you click on some documentation the bar on the right disappears and the documentation link at the top doesnt do anything.. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 18:53:57] <sub> yep... | ||
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| [2009/04/14 20:45:10] <lurbs> puppet doesn't seem to like a service definition like: | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:45:13] <lurbs> service { "postgresql-8.3": ensure => running } | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:45:41] <lurbs> If I change it to just "postgresql" and stick a symlink in /etc/init.d it works. Is there a nicer work around? | ||
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| [2009/04/14 20:46:10] <wakko666> lurbs: service definition check ps -ef | grep $name output to ensure the service is running. you may need to define pattern => "postmaster" to have it looking for the right string | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:46:40] <wakko666> see http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#service for details | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:46:49] <lurbs> I was under the impression it only did that if you set hasstatus to false. | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:47:18] <wakko666> lurbs: sure, but that wasn't part of your original question, and depends on the provider. :-P | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:47:44] <lurbs> Gah, hasstatus -> true seems to fix it. | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:48:03] <lurbs> => rather | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:48:54] <lurbs> "If you do not specify anything, then the service name will be looked for in the process table." | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:48:58] <lurbs> Right, ta. | ||
| [2009/04/14 20:49:06] <lurbs> I'll be explicit. | ||
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| [2009/04/14 20:56:41] <cshields> is there a source of documentation for available package providers? like a module directory | ||
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| [2009/04/14 22:01:52] <jrojas> hmm | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:02:21] <jrojas> cshields: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference | ||
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| [2009/04/14 22:02:41] <jrojas> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#package | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:18:20] <cshields> awesome! I ended up looking at the source tree, but this is more along the lines of what I want to bookmark | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:18:23] <cshields> thanks | ||
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| [2009/04/14 22:26:47] <peiriannydd> lak: So, I've now spent three times as much time trying to figure out how rspec fits in with the transaction code than it took me to mod it in the first place | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:26:59] <lak> heh | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:07] <lak> well, it *is* your first test | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:08] <peiriannydd> rspec makes no sense | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:12] <lak> really? | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:15] <peiriannydd> Yep | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:28] <peiriannydd> The examples online all make sense | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:28] <lak> it seemed a bit intuitive to me, but then, that doesn't mean much | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:36] <lak> just our usage doesn't? :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:37] <peiriannydd> But are far too simplistic | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:42] <lak> eah | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:53] <lak> rather, yeha | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:27:53] <peiriannydd> Well, I'm trying to do something that I feel should be simple, and it's not | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:28:01] <lak> ok, clearly retarded | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:28:04] <lak> what's your patch again? | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:28:07] <lak> ah, right | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:28:08] <lak> expire | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:28:12] <peiriannydd> Yeah | ||
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| [2009/04/14 22:29:18] <peiriannydd> I really feel that I should be able to delve into the Puppet error message to be sure that I'm seeing 'my' error message and not some other one | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:29:41] <lak> brb | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:29:53] <peiriannydd> But...I can't figure out how to. And, I also can't figure out how to catch the actual timeout properly | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:29:57] <peiriannydd> no problem | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:30:10] <lak> burping munchkins | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:30:20] <peiriannydd> That's what I figured :-) | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:30:22] <peiriannydd> Fun times | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:30:52] <peiriannydd> Don't worry, soon they'll be running around destroying everything in sight! | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:31:41] <peiriannydd> This *seems* like it should work, but it doesn't: | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:31:41] <peiriannydd> resource = Puppet::Type.type(:exec).new(:name => "/bin/sleep 3", :expire => "1") | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:31:41] <peiriannydd> @config.add_resource(resource) | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:31:41] <peiriannydd> Puppet.expects(:err) | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:31:41] <peiriannydd> lambda { @transaction.evaluate }.should raise_error | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:34:21] <lak> but doesn't the Timeout catch the error? | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:34:35] <lak> so it should be }.should_not raise_error | ||
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| [2009/04/14 22:35:20] <lak> peiriannydd: right? | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:36:06] <peiriannydd> I think I was incorrectly assuming that Puppet::Error would trigger this, and it doesn't because it's caught too | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:36:19] <lak> what error are you catching? | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:36:23] <lak> can you pastie your code? | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:37:13] <peiriannydd> http://pastie.org/446893 | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:38:17] <peiriannydd> Top is what I'm trying to test and bottom is what I'm using to try to test | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:38:54] <peiriannydd> Apparently, you can't do a expects....with(/regex/) | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:40:34] <peiriannydd> Well, crap, I just got it working | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:40:44] <peiriannydd> It still doesn't make a lot of sense, but oh well. | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:41:51] <peiriannydd> Apparently, *with* doesn't work, but =~ does | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:41:53] <peiriannydd> foo | ||
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| [2009/04/14 22:52:18] <Djelibeybi> lak: is there any way (or any plan) to have a system whereby you can see on the Puppet Master the last time each client checked in? | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:52:40] <peiriannydd> Djelibeybi: I think Puppetshow will do that for you with reports turned on | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:52:53] <peiriannydd> Or you can just turn on reports and snarf the logs | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:53:06] <Djelibeybi> peiriannydd: I thought PuppetShow wasn't considered production-ready? | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:53:24] <peiriannydd> Djelibeybi: Possibly....I usually just parse syslog | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:53:29] <Djelibeybi> peiriannydd: reporting is an option, yes... I'm looking into that. | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:53:35] <Djelibeybi> peiriannydd: syslog on the puppet master? | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:53:41] <peiriannydd> Djelibeybi: yeah | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:53:59] <peiriannydd> Djelibeybi: It pops out a message saying 'compiled catalog for <client>' | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:54:13] <peiriannydd> Djelibeybi: But that doesn't tell you whether or not it actually succeeded | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:54:32] <Djelibeybi> peiriannydd: true. It appears not to log that if you have logging to a specific file. Curious | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:54:59] <peiriannydd> Djelibeybi: I didn't know that. I always just use syslog and do on the fly file targeting with rsyslog | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:55:02] <fujin> Djelibeybi: there's a script in ext/ called puppetlast I believe which uses yaml indirection on the puppetmaster server to detect the last time a configuration was compiled for a client | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:55:17] <fujin> unless it's been removed ;] | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:55:21] <Djelibeybi> fujin: oh, thanks! | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:55:26] * Djelibeybi goes to have a prod/peek | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:55:52] <peiriannydd> fujin: I completely forgot about that! | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:56:36] <Djelibeybi> Hmm.. not installed with the RPMs. I'll have to go to the source | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:56:57] <peiriannydd> Ah. I think that David strips out all of the ext stuff when making the RPMs | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:57:08] <peiriannydd> It's definitely in the latest git repo though | ||
| [2009/04/14 22:58:37] <Djelibeybi> Found it, thanks! | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:00:22] <Djelibeybi> That's FANTASTIC. :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:00:42] <fujin> I wrote it a while ago and updated it to use yaml indirection as opposed to loading up and parsing the yaml dumps - no idea if it still works | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:01:57] <Djelibeybi> fujin: where does it get its list of servers from? We have a few we've removed, but they're in the list. | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:02:32] <fujin> I don't recall - believe it uses the yamldir when you run it as root | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:03:16] <Djelibeybi> Ok, will check that | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:04:32] <fujin> Djelibeybi: http://projects.reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/repository/revisions/2a3d195402900aa31843f7a7ff78026409cf43f5 | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:05:15] <fujin> haha | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:05:19] <fujin> my original branch is still therE: http://github.com/fujin/puppet/commits/fix1452 | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:06:46] <Djelibeybi> Yes, it's working fine. :) | ||
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| [2009/04/14 23:07:56] <fujin> oh goodums | ||
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| [2009/04/14 23:13:55] <Djelibeybi> I just have to clean old yamls out from servers that don't exist. :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:14:13] <gepetto> ::trac:: Using Stored Configuration edited by stevenjenkins @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingStoredConfiguration (by steven@endpoint.com) | ||
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| [2009/04/14 23:18:47] <Djelibeybi> I wonder if storedconfigs works with Oracle... | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:18:59] <Djelibeybi> Though, that's something I can happily wonder about some other time. :) | ||
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| [2009/04/14 23:24:25] <ohadlevy> Djelibeybi: store config uses activerecord | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:24:30] <ohadlevy> so it can work with Oracle | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:24:46] <ohadlevy> but not sure that ActiveRecord is optimized for Oracle | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:24:57] <Djelibeybi> ohadlevy: cool. It's something I'm hoping to look at later. :) Given that I work for Oracle and all. | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:25:30] <ohadlevy> :) | ||
| [2009/04/14 23:26:08] <ohadlevy> it uses the same ruby libraries like any other ROR (ruby on rails) websites.. so just google for activerecord oracle or rails oracle | ||
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