| [2009/04/11 00:07:58] @ Log started by gepetto | ||
| [2009/04/11 00:07:58] <peiriannydd> jamesturnbull: Well, I tried that and it seemed to be working, but it still spewed out a million patches | ||
| [2009/04/11 00:08:01] <peiriannydd> Fun times | ||
| [2009/04/11 00:08:48] <eythian> how do you subscribe to the puppet mailing lists without using a google address? I can't see where I can say what address i want the messages sent to. | ||
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| [2009/04/11 00:44:56] <eythian> (resend, in case the other one was lost in my reconnect:) in a define, how do I optionally do a 'notify'? If I make it default to undef I get an error, but sometimes I need it, sometimes I don't. | ||
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| [2009/04/11 00:52:55] <eythian> Wait, if I create a definition, do I have to handle notify myself, or is it done for me? | ||
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| [2009/04/11 01:19:27] <eythian> oh, found what I needed in the docs. Fancy that :) | ||
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| [2009/04/11 05:23:03] <eythian> can I 'file { "/directory": ensure => absent } in order to do the equivalent of an rm -rf on a dir? | ||
| [2009/04/11 05:26:06] <Volcane> yes, but only after you read the docs for file{} and see the other options you'll need | ||
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| [2009/04/11 05:39:19] <eythian> Volcane: ah I missed purge. Ta | ||
| [2009/04/11 05:41:43] <eythian> (at least, I think that'll do it. It probably can't hurt.) | ||
| [2009/04/11 05:42:01] <eythian> (and recurse, of course) | ||
| [2009/04/11 05:43:47] <eythian> I'm using 'define' to make some reasonably simple custom types. Is it possible for other objects to subscribe to these types? I have notify working, but can I do something to make subscribe work? | ||
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| [2009/04/11 06:34:41] <Volcane> subscribe/notify/before all work | ||
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| [2009/04/11 07:16:52] <eythian> Volcane: how do you mean? | ||
| [2009/04/11 07:17:12] <Volcane> they work the same for defined types as normal types | ||
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| [2009/04/11 07:18:39] <eythian> but how can subscribe work, assuming it's more than just ordering, how does my defined type know when it gets a notify? | ||
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| [2009/04/11 07:20:32] <Volcane> lets say your type manages a service | ||
| [2009/04/11 07:20:36] <Volcane> and its called my_service | ||
| [2009/04/11 07:20:49] <Volcane> if you modify the config file, and then notify My_service["foo"] | ||
| [2009/04/11 07:21:02] <Volcane> the resources inside the define, file, service, etcetc, will all get a notify like normal | ||
| [2009/04/11 07:21:36] <Volcane> so if you use file, or service or anything inside a define, the behaviour of the define will be the same as if each of those got a define, and he result is dependant on their behaviour | ||
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| [2009/04/11 07:25:46] <eythian> Ah, I see. So I could have (say) an exec { refreshonly => true } in the define that would only occur if the definition was notified? | ||
| [2009/04/11 07:26:04] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2009/04/11 07:26:36] <eythian> Volcane: thanks, I think that'll be useful. | ||
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| [2009/04/11 08:03:52] <french_puppet> hello, first sorry for my english. I'm new to puppet. I found puppet because i want changing my old cfengine archi. Question: puppet can rotate log or file like cfengine rotate=4) or do i need to use logrotate ? Thanks | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:05:38] <tim|imac> hi french_puppet, there are no resources afaik that can rotate logs, we still use logrotate for that, which works good enough | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:05:56] <tim|imac> actually, I'd prefer to use an external, specialised app for that anyway | ||
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| [2009/04/11 08:11:07] <ssm1> french_puppet: it's quite easy to setup a define with an erb template to do that, since logrotate can include files in a directory. | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:12:14] <ssm1> then you can use something like logrotate {"/var/log/foo.log": rotate => 6, postscript => "/etc/init.d/foo logreopen", daily => true, dateext => true, ... } | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:12:36] <ssm1> I'd probably change the syntax five times before it's useful, though | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:13:04] <ssm1> the label should probably be what ends up as the filename in /etc/logrotate.d instead of the logfile, when I think about it. | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:15:30] <french_puppet> thanks you | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:15:46] <eythian> ssm1: what is an erb template? | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:16:19] <ssm1> eythian: embedded ruby. | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:16:31] <ssm1> eythian: if you know how php works, it's about the same thing, only with ruby | ||
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| [2009/04/11 08:17:01] <french_puppet> can i use this like that logrotate {"/var/log/": rotate => 6, recurse => inf, daily => true, dateext => true, ... } for rotate all file ? | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:17:26] <ssm1> french_puppet: no, and you will need to create the logrotate type yourself, before you use it. | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:17:49] <eythian> ssm1: ah, right. Are there docs for that around? I may be needing something like that soon. | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:17:50] <ssm1> but the usage would probably end up about like that | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:18:05] <ssm1> eythian: there's a lot of it at the reductivelabs.com puppet wiki | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:18:29] <ssm1> french_puppet: Give me a few minutes, I'll create a small define you can start with, and pastebin it somewhere | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:18:54] <eythian> ssm1: ah, using the right search terms helped me there :) | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:19:35] <french_puppet> ok i understand, my son go to sleep and i try :D thanks very much for your answer | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:20:49] <ssm1> french_puppet: hard to concentrate on anything else when your children are around, true :) | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:21:11] <french_puppet> i found a lot of exemple on the wiki but i wanted to be sure. | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:21:27] <french_puppet> yes of course | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:24:34] <french_puppet> last question: can i use logrotate {"/var/log/[a-z][5-9].log": .....} ? | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:26:26] <ssm1> french_puppet: you should probbably make logrotate { "foo": files => "/var/log/whatever*.log"}, which will make the file /etc/logrotate.d/foo.conf | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:34:58] <duritong> gepetto: seen DavidS | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:34:58] <gepetto> duritong: DavidS was last seen 12 days, 23 hours, 45 minutes and 6 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:36:59] <ssm1> I wonder... When making a defined type, where does it make sense to put validation of parameters? In the puppet manifest, or in the template? If I put it in the template, what's the easiest way of returning an error to the user? | ||
| [2009/04/11 08:37:46] <ssm1> if, say, the parameter "interval => " should be "daily", "monthly" or "gazonk", and return an error if it's anything else. | ||
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| [2009/04/11 09:19:28] <ssm1> there's a first commit of a logrotate module at http://github.com/ssm/puppet_modules/tree/master | ||
| [2009/04/11 09:19:55] <ssm1> it needs polish, and probably some more polish, and... :P | ||
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| [2009/04/11 10:02:30] <flashn> ssm1, why not just place logrotate.conf? | ||
| [2009/04/11 10:03:12] <flashn> OS it self handles logrotate by default of system logs. >:] | ||
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| [2009/04/11 10:12:30] <Deesl> flashn: well it does.. but again in many cases I have seen that is inadequate | ||
| [2009/04/11 10:12:38] <Deesl> rotates logs too frequently | ||
| [2009/04/11 10:13:11] <flashn> yeah I have the same problem | ||
| [2009/04/11 10:13:26] <flashn> need an algoritm that can handle doing logrotation based on roles | ||
| [2009/04/11 10:14:49] <flashn> I dont want to make 20 different logrotates for 20 different webfarms | ||
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| [2009/04/11 12:36:39] <hacim> is there a timeout I can use for --ontime? I've been running puppet from cron this way and finding long running puppet processes sticking around for days, such as this one: | ||
| [2009/04/11 12:36:42] <hacim> root 8732 1.2 1.5 58972 48320 ? Ssl Apr07 75:44 ruby /usr/sbin/puppetd --onetime --no-daemonize | ||
| [2009/04/11 12:40:26] <hacim> I have configtimeout=540 set in my puppetd.conf | ||
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| [2009/04/11 12:53:33] <Volcane|away> nah, not for the total run | ||
| [2009/04/11 12:53:38] <Volcane|away> the configtimeout is just for the getconfig | ||
| [2009/04/11 12:53:46] <Volcane|away> arg, stupid |away thing | ||
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| [2009/04/11 13:53:07] <Hollow> hey folks! i have a problem with custom facts, and would like to list all facts puppet has found, but --debug only tells me that facts were loaded, not which value they evaluated to, is there any way to get a list of known facts from inside puppet (i.e. not facter -p, since that doesn't read puppet.conf anyway) | ||
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| [2009/04/11 13:54:53] <Volcane> Hollow: on the custom facts wiki page it shows you how to make just 'facter' pick up all facts | ||
| [2009/04/11 13:56:30] <Hollow> Volcane: well, facter -p works as long as i keep the symlink from /var/lib/puppet to /var/puppet (i'll fix that one in teh gentoo ebuild), but the facts still don't seem to evaluate to the right thing inside puppet it seems | ||
| [2009/04/11 13:56:51] <Volcane> then your factpath/factdest is not right | ||
| [2009/04/11 13:57:14] <Hollow> Volcane: even if puppetd tells me that it has loaded the fact? | ||
| [2009/04/11 13:57:28] <Volcane> ah | ||
| [2009/04/11 13:57:35] <Volcane> then somethings probably wrong with your fact | ||
| [2009/04/11 13:57:49] <Volcane> I'd say add some debug stuff that write to a log file and see what happens | ||
| [2009/04/11 13:59:03] <Hollow> ok, i'll give it a try | ||
| [2009/04/11 13:59:23] <Hollow> but there is no option to make puppet print all the facts it knows about, right? | ||
| [2009/04/11 14:12:15] <Volcane> not afaik | ||
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| [2009/04/11 15:04:30] <Hollow> Volcane: i have found the cause ... it seems that my class checks things on the master not the client ... see http://paste.linux-vserver.org/12822 ... /etc/portage/package.use does not even exist on nagios.xnull.de but is a directory on puppet.xnull.de ... i'm really out of ideas why puppet is trying to load the file in line 7 on the master | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:05:11] <Volcane> file() will return the contents of files on the master | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:05:19] <Volcane> thats normal and expected | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:06:15] <Volcane> not sure if thats where the problem is you're experiencing, but seems so | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:06:38] <Hollow> oh .. yeah, that seems to be my problem | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:06:41] <Hollow> err, thanks | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:07:49] <Hollow> i have copied this one from another gentoo developer .. i should have read the file() documentation problably ;) | ||
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| [2009/04/11 15:13:47] <Volcane> so access to the net is just via whoever runs the high tower? | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:13:49] <Volcane> oops | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:13:52] <Volcane> wrong # | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:14:59] <Hollow> any hints how i can backup $somepath if it is a file and restore it after puppet has ensured $somepath is a directory? | ||
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| [2009/04/11 15:15:50] <Volcane> use an exec to move it, use a file to ensure its a dir - let the file require the exec, use an exec to move it back and this exec requires the file | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:15:51] <Volcane> yuk | ||
| [2009/04/11 15:17:50] <Hollow> hm, ok, exec it is | ||
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| [2009/04/11 17:29:27] <bobbyz> For exported resources, is it possible to have the type generate different content based on whether it is being exported or collected? | ||
| [2009/04/11 17:31:20] <bobbyz> I'm trying to figure out if I should study up on some ruby and write a new type. I have something I'm trying to manage bacula, and it would be great to be able to have file daemon clients export a resource, which would generate the client-specific config files, and then have the bacula server components collect the exports, which would generate the server-specfic settings | ||
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| [2009/04/11 17:40:42] <teratoma> how do i do this in 3 or 4 lines, instead of 12? http://pastebin.com/m1d7646ea | ||
| [2009/04/11 17:42:22] <Volcane> package{["one", "two", "three"]: ensure => installed } | ||
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| [2009/04/11 18:35:26] <hMz> afternoon, lak | ||
| [2009/04/11 18:35:38] <lak> hi hMz | ||
| [2009/04/11 18:35:46] <hMz> hows saturday treatin ya? | ||
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| [2009/04/11 18:39:38] <lak> dustily | ||
| [2009/04/11 18:39:56] <lak> trying to get my house ready to sell, and it seems to be a dusty job today | ||
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| [2009/04/11 20:44:48] <peiriannydd> Well, now I'm having problems getting the rspec tests to run.....anyone able to help? | ||
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