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| [2009/04/10 00:46:05] <go8ose> I'm running puppet 0.24.5. Should facter facts work as variables in my templates? | ||
| [2009/04/10 00:47:17] <go8ose> Because I have a template that says 'myhostname = <%= $fqdn %>', and the generated file is just getting that substitution as an empty string | ||
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| [2009/04/10 00:52:04] <go8ose> hmm, maybe my timezone isn't so good for asking questions right now | ||
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| [2009/04/10 01:29:06] <go8ose> Great, I found my mistake. Facter variables are available in templates, but the syntax '<%= $fqdn %>' is incorrect. It should be '<%= fqdn %>'. I'm sure this has bitten me before. | ||
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| [2009/04/10 04:41:49] <stasheck> Hi to all, especially ppl willing to help me with facter | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:42:05] <stasheck> which, out of nowhere, stopped working on one of the hosts | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:42:37] <stasheck> after running # facter, I get "/usr/lib/site_ruby/1.8/facter/ipmess.rb:19: uninitialized constant Facter::IPAddress (NameError)" | ||
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| [2009/04/10 04:43:00] <stasheck> funny thing - running # facter ipaddress returns ip as usual | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:43:11] <stasheck> I'm stuck | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:43:20] <stasheck> debug doesn't yield any more results | ||
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| [2009/04/10 04:53:11] <keithlard> stasheck: does your puppet match your facter? and have you got multiple facters on there or something | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:53:30] <stasheck> keithlard: what do you mean if they match? | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:53:40] <stasheck> and I have just one facter | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:53:51] <keithlard> what are the respective version of puppet and facter on that box? | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:54:27] <stasheck> 0.24.7 and 1.5.4 | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:54:56] <keithlard> and if you just run 'facter' with no arguments, you get that error? | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:55:14] <stasheck> yes | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:57:54] <keithlard> it does look as though there's some problem with the facter installation - that possibly there are files from an older version which are accidentally being required | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:58:03] <keithlard> try 'locate facter' | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:58:22] <Volcane> how'd you install facter? | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:58:35] <tehhobbit> you could also use ir and simply require gems + facter | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:58:37] <stasheck> well, well, well | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:58:50] <stasheck> seems that I have some old RPM installed | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:59:02] <stasheck> but the funny thing is, it worked 20 minutes ago | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:59:03] <tehhobbit> that will give you a hash with info about the loaded gem in Gem. | ||
| [2009/04/10 04:59:10] <stasheck> then suddenly stopped | ||
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| [2009/04/10 05:00:04] <stasheck> ok, I think I know what happened :-) | ||
| [2009/04/10 05:00:14] <stasheck> I had an old rpm | ||
| [2009/04/10 05:00:25] <stasheck> then I installed facter from a package | ||
| [2009/04/10 05:00:44] <stasheck> and then I updated whole system, which updated rpm of course | ||
| [2009/04/10 05:00:49] <stasheck> hence the problem :-) | ||
| [2009/04/10 05:00:53] <stasheck> thanks for the idea :-) | ||
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| [2009/04/10 05:05:31] <keithlard> just another day at the office for 'facter repair man' | ||
| [2009/04/10 05:06:31] <stasheck> keithlard: haha, just imagined a guy in a repair man outfit working at the server console :-) | ||
| [2009/04/10 05:07:09] <stasheck> keithlard: "Hey, Keith, my facter broke again, come here!" ;-) | ||
| [2009/04/10 05:07:22] <stasheck> keithlard: no offence | ||
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| [2009/04/10 08:57:22] <phantez> Hey, what does it implies for a class to be nested ? | ||
| [2009/04/10 09:01:14] <Volcane> class one { class two { } } | ||
| [2009/04/10 09:03:48] <Volcane> and you'd then include it like 'include one::two' | ||
| [2009/04/10 09:06:33] <phantez> I don't really see what it implies in the behavior of class two | ||
| [2009/04/10 09:07:20] <phantez> class one {} class one::two {} and class one {} class one_two {} seems to me to have the same behavior | ||
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| [2009/04/10 10:24:22] <Telmo> Can I subscribe to a class? I have a oracle::base which contains the packages that need to be installed for oracle install to work, and then I have an oracle::server which sets the enrironments creates the users/group and basically configures the system for the install, can I do "exec {"/bin/sh oracle_installer", subscribe => oracle::common } I | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:24:33] <Telmo> I am pretty sure it is not possible.. but it doesn't hurt to ask | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:27:03] <joe-mac> hm, interesting thought, but i've never tried :-) | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:27:22] <joe-mac> so you want to run that exec when anything under oracle::common changes? | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:28:00] <joe-mac> you can subscribe to arrays of resources Telmo, idk if that would help | ||
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| [2009/04/10 10:28:28] <joe-mac> so you can do subscribe => [ File["foo"], File["bar"] ], | ||
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| [2009/04/10 10:30:50] <jbooth> If you can't subscribe to the class, you can always create a no-op resource and have it handle the subscribe and/or requires. | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:32:44] <ssm1> Do you need the event from subscribe, or can you do with require => Class["oracle::server"] ? | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:33:46] <ssm1> i use require => Class["foo::something"] inside a module (foo) to group dependencies. | ||
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| [2009/04/10 10:34:46] <joe-mac> yea, require seems more like it's what you want Telmo, but i don't know jack about oracle so | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:37:59] <Telmo> thanks! | ||
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| [2009/04/10 10:48:41] <Telmo> out of curiosity, am I the only one who has tried to automate oracle installation/management using puppet? I've seen plenty of MySQL, even some Postgress recipes but never oracle. | ||
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| [2009/04/10 10:55:50] <jbk> Telmo: the only one not in a straight jacket i imagine :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:56:09] <Telmo> lol | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:56:43] * jbk will refrain from elaborating on his feelings about the oracle installer other than to say the profanity involved might linger in the air here for decades if he did | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:57:37] <Telmo> well, I finally figured out how to install/configure Oracle with out having to go through the X11 Forwarding hell, so I am "almost" done | ||
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| [2009/04/10 10:58:00] <nDuff> Telmo, I've done it, albeit not using puppet, but that was a former employer. | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:58:20] <jbk> one of my biggest gripes about oracle in general is it tries to be smarter than the OS | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:58:24] <nDuff> Telmo, ...not much fun, especially if you're trying to set up RAC. | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:58:28] <jbk> which usually just causes more problems than it solves | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:58:31] * jbk hisses | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:58:47] <Telmo> hell no, I am not touching RAC with a 10 feet pole | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:58:53] <jbk> probably a wise move | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:59:00] <Telmo> at least until I am told to lol | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:59:28] <jbk> it only makes sense in very few situations (far less than oracle will have you believe) | ||
| [2009/04/10 10:59:57] <jbk> one of my favorites things w/ the installer is it _requires_ 3/4 of the total system memory to be free for the installer | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:00:02] <Telmo> I work for a rather large corporation, so we have all kind of "stuff" running in multiple configurations | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:00:03] <jbk> it won't even try if it's not | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:00:16] <jbk> so if you have a 64gb box | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:00:25] <jbk> the installer must see 48gb of ram free | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:01:20] <Telmo> that wont be a problem because Oracle will be installed right after the system has been built, jumpstart installs puppet, systems reboots, puppet installs oracle | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:02:22] <jbk> yeah, that doesn't work so well if you're using zones and have stuff already running in other zones :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:03:03] <Telmo> not using zones, just LDOMs | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:03:20] <Telmo> zones are a pain :D | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:03:27] <jbk> it's a tradeoff | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:03:37] <jbk> ldoms == less hardware, but same admin overhead | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:03:45] <jbk> and less flexibility on resource allocation | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:03:57] <Telmo> very true | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:04:11] <jbk> also, it only currently works on niagras | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:04:31] <jbk> though i would expect rock would also support them (or rather, they'd be stupid not to) | ||
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| [2009/04/10 11:11:55] <joe-mac> so i may be just hjumping in here, but i would expect LDOMs to have the same admin overheard causie it's closer to be actual separate machines as i understand it | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:12:05] <joe-mac> i had a t1000 that i was playing with but i had to sell it :-( | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:12:21] <joe-mac> i was really, rweally interested in checking the LDOM stuff out | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:13:00] <Telmo> hehe, I am fooling around with LDOM and puppets on a bounch of T2000 | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:13:02] <jbk> yeah, that's what i was getting at, while zones allow some system admin consolidation, at the expense of a single running kernel | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:13:13] <jbk> though, something like puppet could help with that | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:13:18] <joe-mac> iw ish i got to play with sun gear at work, i do that as a hobby lol | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:13:23] <joe-mac> we get whiteboxes here | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:13:54] <jbk> speaking of which, i've been meaning to contribute some bits back for solaris | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:14:13] <jbk> (such as facter reporting the zonename) | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:14:25] <joe-mac> hm, i thought facter already did that stuff | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:14:32] <jbk> not the latest stable release | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:14:32] <Telmo> I've been working on improving the pkg provider | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:14:38] <joe-mac> or i might be thinking of ralsh building a zone cfg | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:14:43] <joe-mac> i c | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:14:50] <Telmo> with solaris 10 you can now specify an URL as the pkg sourge | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:15:09] <jbk> well that'd be another thing -- adding support for opensolaris's pkg(5) | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:15:11] <Telmo> but puppet fails saying that you need to specify the source | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:15:22] <jbk> datalink object support | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:15:23] <joe-mac> i wish there was a force option for the obsd package provider, i'd really like to be able to pass a specific force option to packages | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:15:33] <joe-mac> (random stream of consciousness) | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:02] <Telmo> joe-mac: just extend the class | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:34] <Telmo> right now I have a define for my Solaris 10 packages | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:35] <jbk> and improve the zfs/zpool support (there's a _lot_ more properties that have been added) | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:38] <joe-mac> Telmo: i know enough ruby to do silly stuff but not enough to really be poking puppet's source ATM, though i plan on getting into it, a lot of my plans are foiled by life | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:53] <jbk> heh isn't that all of us :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:56] <Telmo> define sun_package($ensure = "present") { | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:57] <Telmo> package{"http://10.253.65.30/Solaris_sparc/Packages/${name}.pkg": | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:57] <Telmo> ensure => $ensure | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:57] <Telmo> } | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:57] <Telmo> } | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:16:58] <jbk> that at least i can do at work | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:17:08] <jbk> my other projects don't get that luxury | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:17:12] <Telmo> I really can't take credit for it, it was Volcane's idea heeh | ||
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| [2009/04/10 11:17:45] <Telmo> life has a way of getting into everything you do lol | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:18:00] <jbk> also was going to try to get puppet + facter into one of the opensolaris IPS repos | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:19:49] <Telmo> I made packages for both of them, based on Sun's own ruby pkg | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:20:06] <Telmo> the one from Blastwave has way too many dependencies | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:20:12] <jbk> have you used IPS? | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:20:17] <Telmo> so install of 15 pkgs, I just install 3 | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:20:30] <jbk> yeah, i did that for s10 at work as well | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:20:45] <jbk> but with IPS, anyone that uses opensolaris can just do 'pkg install puppet' | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:20:50] <Telmo> I have, we brought Sun on site, and told them our Solaris pkg dependencies woes | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:21:03] <jbk> at least that's the goal | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:21:06] <Telmo> their response was IPS fixes all that | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:21:10] <jbooth> Any puppet coder types awake? lak? | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:21:20] <lak> i am, indeed, still awake | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:21:29] <Telmo> our response was, are you back porting it so Sol9/10, and they said no | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:21:56] <jbooth> lak: Should a module defined function be able to return an array? I'm getting some really odd behavior out of one... | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:21:59] <jbk> well... it'll probably run on s10... | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:22:09] <lak> jbooth: yes, it should | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:22:16] <Telmo> not supported by Sun jbk | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:22:20] <jbk> i thought dennis clarke was doing some stuff with it and s10 on blastwave, but not sure.. | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:22:48] <Telmo> SUN's position is "if we get enough requests we will consider it" | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:22:53] <jbooth> lak: Hmm. 'k, I'll test vs 0.24.8 then report a bug if it still fails. | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:23:04] <lak> ok | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:23:06] <jbk> ahh yes, the bane of any large corporation 'that which we can't get 3rd party support is forbidden' | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:23:15] <jbooth> lak: getting indeterminate results out, sometimes I get one element, sometimes the whole array. | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:23:36] * Volcane has a parser function that returns arrays just fine | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:24:15] <jbooth> Volcane: that's what this is, but even simplified down to stupid levels it doesn't work. | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:24:21] <jbooth> I suppose it could be a mailalias problem | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:24:32] <joe-mac> hmm, will puppet shit itself if i am doing a define and one of the variables is '!command_line' so in the definition it would be like $!command_line | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:24:34] <Volcane> there were some bugs in 0.24.7 with arrays and parser functions | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:25:00] <Volcane> joe-mac: not exactly a surprise or anything... | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:25:23] <joe-mac> yea, if i throw it in curlies you think it'll work? bah i'll just drop the !, and put it in the file | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:25:35] * joe-mac is building a definition for openbsd network interfaces | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:25:46] <Volcane> take away the ! | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:25:59] <joe-mac> yea, not a big deal | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:26:15] <joe-mac> i was just trying to stick to the hostname.if manpage as much as possible | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:26:30] <jbk> so is there any defined process for contributing code back? | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:26:39] <jbk> such as the aforementioned zonename for facter? | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:26:54] <jbooth> Well, .7 was inconsistent. | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:26:58] <jbooth> .8 just barfs | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:27:02] <jbooth> I guess that's better... | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:27:14] <Volcane> jbooth: show your simplified bit of code? | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:27:31] <joe-mac> jbk: afaik you just make a ticket then attach the git diff | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:27:41] <jbooth> netidtoemail(): args.map { |n| n + "@illinois.edu" } | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:27:52] <jbk> ok.. | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:28:10] <jbooth> Oh wait, I bet I need that [0] back now | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:28:23] <jbooth> yeah | ||
| [2009/04/10 11:29:41] <jbooth> All good. .7 bug. | ||
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| [2009/04/10 12:15:34] <score> is there an easy way to force a class to be evaluated completely before all others? | ||
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| [2009/04/10 12:24:33] <Volcane> score:no | ||
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| [2009/04/10 12:28:59] <jbooth> You could fake it... | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:29:21] <jbooth> But yeah, I guess it'll be ugly either way | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:29:54] <jbooth> Might be better to ask why you have to force that one class to be first and turn it around | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:30:33] <jbarratt> Is the general consensus that it's better to manage filesystems (partioning, etc) outside of puppet? | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:33:44] <Volcane> jbooth: many many many cases where having that ability would be immensely helpful | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:39:04] <jbooth> Volcane: the usual case I see it in is needing to setup yumrepo{} before package{}s. I just define a local_package{} which auto-adds the require=>Yumrepo[]. | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:39:14] <jbooth> Then use local_package instead | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:39:34] <Volcane> sure, I've quite a bit more than that that gets done during my bootstrap phases though | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:39:49] <Volcane> bootstrap phase would be completely unneeded if i could say class boostrap needs to run first | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:41:32] <jbooth> Couldn't you do that through judicious use of Type{ require=>Class["bootstrap"] } && require+>? | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:42:04] <Volcane> like adjusting repos to point to my mirrors, adding my own repos, adding facts, set up my typical puppet clients configs, making yum cache | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:42:28] <Volcane> jbooth: so you're advocating 100s of require lines in many different situations instead of a way to just run a class first? awesome :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:43:06] <Volcane> requires are all fine and well, but they're also a lot of processing and a lot of space for human error | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:43:10] <jbooth> Volcane: No? Unless you have hundreds of define()s, in which case I suppose maybe yes. | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:43:27] <Volcane> why would only defines be affected? | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:44:13] <jbooth> Hm, maybe that doesn't carry scope. I suppose that's true. | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:45:03] <Volcane> where, i dont know just hypothesizing, lets say oneof the already special classes that exist could just be a "hook" as such into the parsing order | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:45:07] <Volcane> before => starthook | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:45:10] <Volcane> after => endhook | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:45:13] <jbooth> No, it must, else I should be seeing errors. | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:45:16] <Volcane> or require => endhook | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:45:25] <jbooth> Well, yeah that certainly would be cleaner... | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:45:30] <Volcane> simple thing like that would help shedloads | ||
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| [2009/04/10 12:55:25] <jbooth> Volcane: like this: http://pastie.org/442949 | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:55:55] <jbooth> note I hadn't pushed that out to a class, that's all in the host.pp file. | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:56:08] <jbooth> I don't know if scoping issues when that's in a class will break it. | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:56:17] <jbooth> That said, I think you could put that in site.pp and it'd be fine | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:56:22] <Volcane> yeah, i am sure there are ways around, just saying it would just be nice to a have simple non hacky solution | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:56:26] <jbooth> Since that should have global scope | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:56:32] <Volcane> my things that have to happen first only has to happen first once | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:56:35] <Volcane> from then on i dont care | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:56:48] <Volcane> so my machines jsut start in an environment that *only* sets those up | ||
| [2009/04/10 12:57:10] <Volcane> from then on it runs normally in its eventual environment, also keeping those resources managed but in whatever order | ||
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| [2009/04/10 13:04:42] <joe-mac> say i have a variable called rtsol and i do an "if" on it, will it return true even if the variable is an empty string | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:05:01] <ssm1> joe-mac: as long as it is defined, I guess | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:05:43] <joe-mac> hmm, ok | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:06:48] <ssm1> joe-mac: tested, seems like an empty string equals not defined | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:07:01] <joe-mac> sweet, thanks ssm1 | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:07:13] <joe-mac> that is good for me in this case i think | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:08:00] <ssm1> joe-mac: see http://pastebin.com/m131db2b2 | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:08:19] <ssm1> joe-mac: save it to a file foo.pp, then run puppet -v foo.pp | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:08:34] <ssm1> retry with an empty string | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:08:50] <joe-mac> i didn't even think of doing that, thanks | ||
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| [2009/04/10 13:22:46] <joe-mac> is the word 'alias' a keyword in ruby? | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:22:52] <joe-mac> if so, bummer | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:24:08] <Volcane> yup, yup | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:24:22] <jbooth> Technically I suspect it's a method, but yes. | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:24:24] <joe-mac> Volcane: what does it do? sorry i am a nuby | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:24:48] <joe-mac> i could google it, but chatting is so much better than work | ||
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| [2009/04/10 13:25:10] <jbooth> Same thing it does in unix, but to method names. | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:25:12] <Volcane> it lets you alias method names to other names | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:26:55] <joe-mac> ah, interesting | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:27:41] <Volcane> useful if you intend to override some method but still wish to give access to the old on | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:28:20] <joe-mac> i c | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:30:24] <joe-mac> lawl @ this line in my erb template, 209 characters so far. i guarantee i am doing this way inefficiently | ||
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| [2009/04/10 13:57:39] <ashp> this drives me crazy | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:57:49] <ashp> SOMETIMES the nagios provider doesn't set the file permissions properly on nagios_ | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:57:53] <ashp> and it leaves nagios broken | ||
| [2009/04/10 13:57:57] <ashp> it works right 9/10 times however | ||
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| [2009/04/10 14:11:36] <fjay> andrewcshafer: ping | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:11:55] <andrewcshafer> yo | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:12:09] <fjay> i am about to recreate the issue that triggers bug #2019 | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:12:10] <gepetto> fjay: #2019 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2019 "Puppet - Bug #2019: puppet managed nfs mount point filebuckets all of its files when nfs servers goes away and then comes back - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:12:26] <fjay> anything you want done other than the --trace --debug --verbose bits? | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:14:43] <andrewcshafer> that and maybe the steps you are using to reproduce | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:14:52] <fjay> oh thats easy.. 'reboot' on the nfs server :) | ||
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| [2009/04/10 14:18:34] <fjay> and we're off! | ||
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| [2009/04/10 14:43:07] <joe-mac> anybody know why erb now says that | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:43:08] <joe-mac> -:4: warning: parenthesize argument(s) for future version | ||
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| [2009/04/10 14:56:51] <mconigliaro> hey guys, if i have: class foo inferits bar { $var = "asdfsdf" } | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:57:01] <mconigliaro> will that variable get set in time before the classes are imported? | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:57:08] <mconigliaro> or included | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:57:54] <mconigliaro> i know you're supposed to set variables before including classes | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:58:19] <mbrown7776> hey all trying to install puppet on Ubuntu 8.10 and getting genconfig errors | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:58:27] <mconigliaro> otherwise, the variable will obviously not be seen by the class | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:58:37] <mbrown7776> /usr/bin/puppet:144: undefined method `genconfig' for Puppet:Module (NoMethodError) | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:58:47] <joe-mac> mbrown7776: how did you install puppet | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:59:06] <mbrown7776> apt-get install puppet puppetmaster | ||
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| [2009/04/10 14:59:13] <mbrown7776> version is 0.24.8 | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:59:31] <mbrown7776> works fine so far on my Debian machine | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:59:34] <joe-mac> did you at one time or another install it via rubygems? | ||
| [2009/04/10 14:59:55] <mbrown7776> joe-mac no ruby is installed though | ||
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| [2009/04/10 15:04:48] <mbrown7776> last ditch effort to fix I downloaded the tar ball and ran install.rb and that seems to have fixed it any ideas why the Ubuntu package had issues? | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:04:57] <mbrown7776> or is that an Ubuntu question? | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:06:42] <Volcane> it seems the ubuntu package is perpetually broken | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:06:50] <joe-mac> lol | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:07:01] <mbrown7776> nice to know | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:07:06] <joe-mac> ...yyyyyeeaa no clue. sorry. i run LTS where i use puppet so | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:07:06] <Volcane> GIGO :P | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:07:11] <joe-mac> it's a little dated but it works | ||
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| [2009/04/10 15:22:54] <jbooth> ashp: sounds like an issue of ordering in your manifests. | ||
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| [2009/04/10 15:23:44] <jbooth> joe-mac: paren stuff is probably a change in ruby between 1.8 and 1.9 where you'll need parens in ruby code. Since that's what erb template code is it might be helpfully warning you. | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:24:46] <joe-mac> jbooth: yea at first i suspected my template but i am thinking it is the erb parser | ||
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| [2009/04/10 15:30:49] <spencerrr> anyone know what this means: | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:30:49] <spencerrr> Could not create faap-248-215.f.usys: Parameter ip failed: Invalid IP address | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:30:49] <spencerrr> Configuration could not be instantiated: Parameter ip failed: Invalid IP address | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:31:01] <spencerrr> the box works just fine on its configured ip address | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:31:13] <spencerrr> one thing to note however, this box does not have an active eth0, or eth1 | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:31:18] <spencerrr> the ip is assigned to eth2 | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:31:24] <spencerrr> not sure if that is a problem or not | ||
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| [2009/04/10 15:32:55] <joe-mac> spencerrr: can you give a little more context? | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:33:00] <spencerrr> sure | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:33:24] <joe-mac> this must be pretty new, since i don't recall seeing a resource with an ip parameter in 24.4 | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:33:34] <joe-mac> (i use the dated ubuntu packages) | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:33:41] <spencerrr> so I just finished installing rhel5 and puppet 0.24.7 | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:34:17] <spencerrr> and I have not even added a node for this box yet, (it will get the default node, and that has include baseclass in it) | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:34:46] <spencerrr> but puppet starts: | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:34:46] <spencerrr> Got signed certificate | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:34:46] <spencerrr> Starting Puppet client version 0.24.7 | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:34:46] <spencerrr> Could not create faap-248-215.f.usys: Parameter ip failed: Invalid IP address | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:34:53] <spencerrr> that's it | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:35:01] <spencerrr> all my other puppet clients work just fine | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:35:03] <Volcane> host resources takes an ip | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:35:19] <spencerrr> is my config failing to compile? | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:35:33] <spencerrr> puppetd --verbose --debug --no-daemonize shows nothing more than syslog | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:35:48] <Volcane> put a --trace in there too | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:36:07] <spencerrr> on the puppet-master: Compiled catalog for faap-248-215.f.usys in 0.08 seconds | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:36:15] <spencerrr> ok, I will try trace | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:36:16] <spencerrr> one sec | ||
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| [2009/04/10 15:37:24] <spencerrr> context surrounding the error | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:37:30] <spencerrr> info: mount[plugins]: Mounted | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:37:30] <spencerrr> debug: Puppet::Type::Host::ProviderNetinfo: file nireport does not exist | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:37:30] <spencerrr> err: Could not create faap-248-215.f.usys: Parameter ip failed: Invalid IP address | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:37:30] <spencerrr> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/type/host.rb:10:in `unsafe_validate' | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:37:30] <spencerrr> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/parameter.rb:159:in `validate' | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:37:58] <Volcane> and do you have any host{} resources anywhere? | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:38:14] <spencerrr> I am sure of it | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:38:16] <spencerrr> let me find them | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:38:34] <Volcane> seems one of them does not set something that your OS likes | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:38:42] <spencerrr> host { "$hostname.$domain": | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:38:42] <spencerrr> alias => "$hostname", | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:38:42] <spencerrr> ip => "$ipaddress_eth0" | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:38:42] <spencerrr> } | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:38:45] <spencerrr> ahh, found it | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:38:57] <spencerrr> I assumed something there (obviously) | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:39:08] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:39:36] <spencerrr> spencerrr: hangs his head in shame | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:39:39] <spencerrr> that was it | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:39:55] <spencerrr> too bad the error was not more obvious (to me at least) | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:40:27] <Volcane> yeah its not great, the code compiled, but your OS through a error when trying to add it | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:42:31] <spencerrr> thank you for your help | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:42:36] <Volcane> np | ||
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| [2009/04/10 15:43:44] <spencerrr> ok, now another question | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:43:58] <spencerrr> templatedir | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:44:17] <spencerrr> I do not want it to be the default path of /var/lib/puppet/templates | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:44:35] <spencerrr> I change the value on the puppetmaster to /etc/puppet/templates | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:44:42] <spencerrr> and restart the master | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:44:55] <spencerrr> all my clients fail because they evidently still look to the old path | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:45:25] <Volcane> client doesnt care where it is | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:45:52] <spencerrr> right, it just seems I cannot change the parameter to a different path on the master | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:46:04] <Volcane> whats the error | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:46:07] <Volcane> please use pastie.org | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:46:27] <spencerrr> ok, let me generate it | ||
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| [2009/04/10 15:50:39] <joe-mac> hmm, on my openbsd test bvox pupept is now just hanging when i do puppetd --verbose --no-daemonize, changing verbose to debug didn't change it | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:50:53] <joe-mac> anybody got some insight on a good place to start debugging this? | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:51:19] <spencerrr> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Could not find template /var/lib/puppet/templates/syslog.conf.erb at /etc/puppet/manifests/classes/resolvconf.pp:42 on node tops-026-202.d.usys | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:51:26] <spencerrr> I can send the whole thing | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:51:39] <Volcane> spencerrr: and how does your template() line look for that? | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:51:43] <Volcane> in the manifest | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:52:42] <spencerrr> content => template("syslog.conf.erb"), | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:52:56] <Volcane> then somewhere some config is still pointing to the wrong place | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:53:12] <Volcane> do you have just puppet.conf and set templatedir in [puppetmasterd] section? and nowhere else? | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:53:24] <joe-mac> my money is on dupe config files | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:53:51] <spencerrr> as far as I know, I will double check, but in the [puppetmasterd] section I have templatedir = /etc/puppet/templates | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:53:55] <spencerrr> checking now | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:54:16] <Volcane> 'puppetd --genconfig|grep templatedir' on the master | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:54:46] <spencerrr> interesting that shows /var/lib/puppet/templates | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:55:08] <Volcane> did you spell templatedir right? :) | ||
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| [2009/04/10 15:58:33] <spencerrr> strange | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:58:49] <spencerrr> I don't think my puppetmaster process is reading the puppetmaster.conf file that I have created for it | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:58:57] <Volcane> it doesnt | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:58:59] <spencerrr> btw: using debian packages | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:59:02] <Volcane> you need to only have puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:59:13] <Volcane> yeah debian, typical | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:59:24] * sc0ttB has the CLOSE_WAIT problem on ubuntu intrepid clients... anyone familiar with this problem? | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:59:32] <Volcane> you used a old package, then you upgraded to a new one and left crap around | ||
| [2009/04/10 15:59:38] <Volcane> sc0ttB: fixed in 0.24.8 | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:00:06] <sc0ttB> Volcane: are there debs available? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:00:07] <spencerrr> Volcane: that is correct, I upgraded this 0.24.7 from an older version | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:00:22] <spencerrr> let me move puppetmaster.conf to puppet.conf | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:00:25] <Volcane> spencerrr: yeah, debians awesome. | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:00:36] <Volcane> also no puppetd.conf etc | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:00:45] <spencerrr> umm, i have started to not like debian as I use it more | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:00:46] <Volcane> just puppet.conf with [puppetd] and [puppetmasterd] etc | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:00:52] <spencerrr> volcane: k | ||
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| [2009/04/10 16:02:44] <spencerrr> nice, now when I do the genconfig with the grep templatedir it shows: /var/puppet/templates | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:02:59] <spencerrr> at least it changed to something else that is progress | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:03:25] <Volcane> well --genconfig produces a valid puppet.conf file, just edit out the genconfig line, you can work from there i guess :) | ||
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| [2009/04/10 16:03:51] <joe-mac> is this not allowed? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:03:52] <joe-mac> define served_file ( $ensure = "present", $path = $name ) | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:04:10] <joe-mac> i want the $path to by default be set to the name of the resource | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:04:17] <joe-mac> i only override the path here and there | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:04:24] <Volcane> joe-mac: $name will resolve to something unexpected in that case | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:04:43] <joe-mac> do you get what i am trying to do volcne? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:04:45] <joe-mac> Volcane: | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:04:54] <Volcane> joe-mac: yes, common misconception :P | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:05:05] <joe-mac> any idea how i can get around it? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:05:20] <Volcane> joe-mac: $name is only the name of the resouce when you instantiate it and only inside the {}s | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:05:29] <joe-mac> ah, ok | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:05:30] <spencerrr> volcane: shouldn't I be using puppetmasterd --genconfig ? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:05:45] <Volcane> joe-mac: $path="DEFAULT" and use an if in the define to set $realpath | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:05:58] <Volcane> spencerrr: should produce the same result | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:06:42] <joe-mac> oh | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:06:44] <joe-mac> DURR | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:06:56] <joe-mac> thanks for slapping me with the obvious fish | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:07:02] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:07:15] <Volcane> joe-mac: else just dont use path at all | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:07:22] <spencerrr> well one has a [puppetmasterd] at the top the other a [puppetd] at the top and a diff reveals many differences | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:07:31] <Volcane> serviced_file{"/tmp/foo": } | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:07:39] <Volcane> inside the define you'll have $name as /tmp/foo | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:08:38] <Volcane> spencerrr:yeah you're right actually.... | ||
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| [2009/04/10 16:09:35] <joe-mac> Volcane: that's actually what i do | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:09:40] <spencerrr> ok, just wanted to be sure I had not messed something up | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:09:44] <joe-mac> but now trhat i am trying to use OBSD i ran into some peculiarities | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:09:45] <spencerrr> I will figure this template thing out | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:09:48] <spencerrr> just one last question | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:09:50] <joe-mac> and i had to modify the way i do some things... | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:10:08] <spencerrr> where do I specify templatedir? in [puppetmasterd] or [puppetd]? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:10:15] <Volcane> joe-mac: ahh, well the defaulting to a known value thing is then what u want i guess | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:10:20] <Volcane> spencerrr:puppetmasterd | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:10:36] <joe-mac> yea i just did it, working awesome, thanks dude | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:13:15] <spencerrr> ok, got it | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:14:34] <joe-mac> when you do execs you hjave to specify a full path right? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:14:51] * joe-mac wishes he had been designing his manifests with other OSs in mind from day one | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:14:52] <Volcane> or set path => | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:15:04] <joe-mac> yea i'll do that | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:15:15] <joe-mac> thanks again lol | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:15:22] <joe-mac> hopefully you don't start charging, i'd be broke by now | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:15:35] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:16:12] * Volcane 's available for consultation :P | ||
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| [2009/04/10 16:18:22] <joe-mac> Volcane: how did you get so well-versed in puppet? have you been using it since the dawn of its creation or? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:18:34] <Volcane> yeah thats pretty much it | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:18:49] <Volcane> and several large rollouts, learn by experience | ||
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| [2009/04/10 16:19:03] <joe-mac> how large you talking? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:19:31] <Volcane> couple 100, 100, 50ish and around 40ish | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:21:21] <joe-mac> nice. i'm like 'retropuppeting' near 100 | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:21:32] <Volcane> yeah thats the worst | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:21:36] <joe-mac> yep | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:21:50] <Volcane> am still doing lots of that with my own machines | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:21:52] <joe-mac> especially cause a lot of them just need to be rebuilt and done from scraatch rather than risk missing something | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:22:04] <Volcane> i do like random, one-off bespoke style hosting and stuff | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:22:15] <joe-mac> you make money on that? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:22:20] <Volcane> so often its just not worth the effort to automated etc | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:22:40] <Volcane> or they're so different from each other that its hard to reuse things | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:23:01] <Volcane> so i had tons of boxes all very different, retro fitted puppet on them, big pita | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:23:04] <Volcane> still some bits left to do | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:23:30] <Volcane> other places was either new starts, or places wher ei could gradually reinstall | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:23:46] <joe-mac> yea i hate that but i still go through the trouble of putting things into classes JUST IN CASE | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:24:02] <Volcane> yeah everything new i make the effort | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:24:05] <joe-mac> just in caset hat one off server needs a buddy someday who is exactly like him | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:25:27] <Volcane> think I'm down to about 4 with weird bits on them now, woohoo | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:25:44] <Volcane> but pretty much first thing i do is define like common::linux etc that has the stuff i want everywhere | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:25:58] <Volcane> then i go round and get that working, adjusting etc till machihnes at least all have that | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:26:17] <Volcane> users, mta, pki, common packages, common baseline monitoring etc | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:26:28] <Volcane> then the bespoke stuff isnt much really | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:26:46] <joe-mac> yea same thing i do but i probably did it a lot messier since it's my first iteration of puppet. much like my first iteration of nagios it's just not as organized as it could be | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:27:24] <Volcane> yeah, i think only after 3 deploys or so do you really get the hang of it | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:27:41] <Volcane> now when i start a new client i literally just wholesale import 75% of my modules and start from there | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:28:01] <Volcane> get them to common::linux style thing pretty much day one, standardise etc, and then tackle the bespoke things they require | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:28:44] <Volcane> then some solid effort into building configurable modules for things like apache, xen etc, and you're well set to bootstrap new places real quick | ||
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| [2009/04/10 16:44:38] <joe-mac> yea, i'd liek to someday have a nice big unified config and do stuff liek that | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:44:49] <joe-mac> i'm pretty junior right now, so it'll bve a few years | ||
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| [2009/04/10 16:47:37] <asdasd2> LOL http://tinyurl.com/ctlz45 | ||
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| [2009/04/10 16:50:42] <joe-mac> that was... odd | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:50:50] <joe-mac> lol, irc spam, weird | ||
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| [2009/04/10 16:55:51] <mconigliaro> hey guys, if i have: class foo inferits bar { $var = "asdfsdf" } | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:56:00] <mconigliaro> will that variable get set in time before the inherited classes are imported? | ||
| [2009/04/10 16:57:15] <mconigliaro> i want to set some defaults in a class and then override them in a subclass | ||
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| [2009/04/10 17:03:38] <Volcane> mconigliaro: answering these kind of questions for yourself is very easy: http://pastie.org/443230 | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:03:49] <Volcane> you dont even need to put things on the server | ||
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| [2009/04/10 17:05:39] <mconigliaro> huh, i didnt know you could do that | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:05:55] <Volcane> thats why i showed you :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:05:59] <Volcane> teach someone to fish etc :P | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:06:01] <mconigliaro> cool, thanks | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:06:18] <mconigliaro> i dont have to test on production systems anymore | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:06:20] <mconigliaro> hehe | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:06:46] <Volcane> file{} works a bit differently in that situation, the type reference explains the diffferences | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:09:05] <bda> Volcane: http://pastie.org/443237 # How would you get that 'include daemontools' to work? | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:09:06] <spheromak> yea | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:09:13] <spheromak> mt | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:09:15] <bda> I'd rather not define Service{} for every Debian: case. | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:00] <Volcane> yeah that wont work too hot | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:04] <Volcane> scoping is all wrong | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:07] <bda> class clamav { case $os { solaris: {} debian: { class clamav-debian inherits daemontools { } ... ? | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:08] <Volcane> put it in your site.pp | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:10] <bda> Yeah. | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:17] <bda> hm. | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:20] <Volcane> outside of any class {} or node{} | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:22] <Volcane> so its global | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:24] <bda> nod | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:40] <Volcane> else make a define my_service and use that everywhere | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:10:46] <Volcane> inside my_service u do the right thing | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:11:12] <bda> Yeah, that was my other thought. But I added stuff to daemontools.rb to get around having an external function. | ||
| [2009/04/10 17:11:15] <bda> Thanks much. | ||
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| [2009/04/10 18:49:09] <mecca_> Hi all. I'm trying to run puppetmaster on a debian server out of /srv/puppet. I believe I have all of my configuration files updated, but I created a symlink for /etc/puppet -> /srv/puppet just in case. For some reason though, everytime I restart the server the symlink is deleted and /etc/puppet/ is recreated with just an empty manifests dir. Am I missing something obvious? | ||
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| [2009/04/10 19:04:14] <ssm1> mecca_: I think an easier solution would be to keep /etc/puppet for the site.pp manifest, puppet.conf and assorted other configuration, and put /srv/puppet/something on the module path | ||
| [2009/04/10 19:05:21] <ssm1> I've done that for my puppet installations. | ||
| [2009/04/10 19:05:46] <mecca_> ssm1: Thanks for the tip. I believe that's the route I'm going to go. | ||
| [2009/04/10 19:05:59] <ssm1> good luck :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 19:11:36] <mecca_> Thanks :) | ||
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| [2009/04/10 20:53:33] <sigmonsays> Hi! | ||
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| [2009/04/10 23:37:59] <eythian> I get this error, and I have no idea why: | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:38:00] <eythian> Apr 11 03:36:07 bumblebee puppetd[10820]: (//Node[bumblebee]/hudson/File[/opt/hudson.war]/ensure) change from absent to file failed: Could not retrieve /hudson/hudson-1.297.war: private method `split' called for nil:NilClass at /etc/puppet/modules/hudson/manifests/init.pp:6 | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:38:06] <eythian> anyone know what that could be about? | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:40:57] <jamesturnbull> eythian: puppet version? | ||
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| [2009/04/10 23:41:07] <eythian> jamesturnbull: 0.24.8 | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:41:47] <eythian> jamesturnbull: the file is quite large, and on a restricted memory vm, so it could be just that. | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:42:45] <jamesturnbull> eythian: yes - how many nodes? | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:43:18] <jamesturnbull> eythian: I usually see that error when the build-in Webrick server starts to reach its limit | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:43:26] <jamesturnbull> eythian: see wiki:UsingMongrel | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:43:27] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: eythian: wiki:UsingMongrel is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingMongrel | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:43:39] <eythian> about 10 or so nodes, so not heaps. | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:43:53] <eythian> and the master side isn't producing any errors, I see that on the client. | ||
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| [2009/04/10 23:44:25] <peiriannydd> Has anyone used rake mail_patches? | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:44:32] <jamesturnbull> peiriannydd: yes | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:44:37] <peiriannydd> When trying to submit to the -dev mailing list.... | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:44:57] <jamesturnbull> eythian: could be the file size then - the puppet fileserver isn't noted for its excellent performance and large files might well hiccup | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:45:01] <peiriannydd> I just wanted to make sure that having an ever living crapload of patches coming along was appropriate... | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:45:16] <jamesturnbull> peiriannydd: sure | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:45:20] <jamesturnbull> peiriannydd: we like patches | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:45:38] <peiriannydd> Well, it seems to be rolling up a lot of other people's along with mine and it seemed kind of strange | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:45:50] <jamesturnbull> peiriannydd: shouldn't do that | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:46:01] <peiriannydd> Perhaps my git-fu is weak | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:46:08] <eythian> jamesturnbull: yeah, that's alright, I got a define written yesterday that makes working with S3 easy, so big files can go there. Need to learn to write real types with providers etc. some time soon. | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:46:54] <jamesturnbull> eythian: with the 0.25.x branch it'll be easy to plug-in alternate file server sources like s3 | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:46:59] <jamesturnbull> eythian: wel easier :P | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:46:59] <peiriannydd> jamesturnbull: I end up with 427 patches, two or three of which are mine. | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:47:09] <peiriannydd> Seemed a bit excessive | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:47:11] <jamesturnbull> okay that's not right | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:47:18] <jamesturnbull> is your dev like tis: | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:47:26] <jamesturnbull> git branch 0.24.x (or whatever) | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:47:31] <jamesturnbull> blah | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:47:37] <jamesturnbull> hang on start again | ||
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| [2009/04/10 23:47:53] <peiriannydd> $ git branch | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:47:53] <peiriannydd> * feature/0.24.7/2135 | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:48:11] <jamesturnbull> git checkout 0.24.x git branch ticket/0.24.x/1111 code git commit etc? | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:48:16] <peiriannydd> Yep | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:48:30] <eythian> jamesturnbull: yeah, that's right. Maybe I'll wait 'til then. The thing I have works just fine now. I also want to do one that works off a regular webserver using 'If-Modified-Since' at some stage, too :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:48:30] @ Quit: alfism: "Connection reset by beer" | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:48:50] <jamesturnbull> if you have a new branch then mail_patches should only show your commits | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:49:11] <jamesturnbull> because it just does a git diff from the parent branch | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:49:33] <peiriannydd> I did the 'git rebase -i master' since that's all that worked. Could that be the problem? | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:49:57] <peiriannydd> Just doing a git rebase -i didn't do anything except throw up an error message | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:50:07] <peiriannydd> I'm too used to Subversion | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:50:10] <fujin> you've rebased the entire tree | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:50:20] <fujin> hope you didn't rewrite history or anything ;) | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:50:34] <peiriannydd> Nice.... | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:50:48] <jamesturnbull> peiriannydd: oh yeah that'll do it | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:50:50] <kolla> now for the most wanted "git undo" :) | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:50:53] <peiriannydd> Nah, I've got all my stuff in here still and can just do an old fashioned diff patch | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:50:58] <peiriannydd> foo | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:51:08] <jamesturnbull> rebase == excellent sauce but only if used carefully :P | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:51:20] <peiriannydd> I'm getting that. | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:51:43] <peiriannydd> So, I tried to follow the Wiki at: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/DevelopmentLifecycle#submitting-patches | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:51:54] <peiriannydd> And that step didn't go so well | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:51:59] <peiriannydd> What did I miss? | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:52:28] <jamesturnbull> try git rebase -i HEAD~x (where x is the number of commits) | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:52:43] <jamesturnbull> then you are only working with the commits you want | ||
| [2009/04/10 23:53:05] <jamesturnbull> and then you use squash or whatever to collapse the commits |
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