| [2008/06/25 00:00:08] <zirpu> well, lak seems to be alergic to python. so i wouldn't recommend it. he'll whine about bleeding eyes or something. | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:00:36] <jamesturnbull> zirpu: the Trac wiki isn't very flexible and I'd like to better structure the content with hierarchies and perhaps a bit more like a "book" | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:00:50] @ Quit: emerose: | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:01:26] <zirpu> agreed. i think trac has been abused. i know my company abuses it. :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:01:26] <jamesturnbull> zirpu: yeah lak and I agree a bit on python - I don't actually hate it but I am not a huge fan | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:02:01] <zirpu> i'm language agnostic. i use what's useful at the time and for the project. | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:02:20] <zirpu> however, i avoid perl like the line noise plague it is. | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:02:32] <jamesturnbull> zirpu: "agnostic" eh? :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:02:52] <zirpu> mostly so. | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:03:34] <jamesturnbull> I quite like Perl but I prefer Ruby these days | ||
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| [2008/06/25 00:27:33] <halcyonCorsair> is there an easy way for me to ensure the output of a command, ie. netstat -an | grep suchandsuch ? | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:33:41] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: sorry can you explain more of what you are trying to do? | ||
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| [2008/06/25 00:36:11] <halcyonCorsair> jamesturnbull: i'm wanting to check that my ssh daemon is listening on a certain ip/port, but at the moment i have to manually restart my ssh server after boot (i'm fairly sure its because ssh is starting before dhcp has completed) | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:37:20] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: not sure Puppet is going to help you there - perhaps Nagios or the like? | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:37:53] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: or do you mean you want a relationship between a class that configures ssh and a class that configures dhcp? | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:38:05] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: ie have dhcp configured prior to ssh being started? | ||
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| [2008/06/25 00:40:17] <jamesturnbull> lak: how'd it go? | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:41:29] <halcyonCorsair> jamesturnbull: ok, how about this then, say i watch a file, ala: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#how-do-i-run-a-command-whenever-a-file-changes, can i get puppet to check its contents, and only run the command if the contents of the file are different than expected? | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:42:26] @ Quit: lak: | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:43:07] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: see the onlyif parameter of the exec type | ||
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| [2008/06/25 00:44:11] <zirpu> halcyonCorsair: netstat -nlp | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:45:00] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: wiki:TypeReference#exec | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:45:36] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: halcyonCorsair: wiki:TypeReference#exec is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#exec | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:46:33] <halcyonCorsair> zirpu: well yes, but how to check that with puppet... | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:48:30] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: well onlyif is one option | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:48:44] <halcyonCorsair> ah yes, just reading now | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:49:10] <zirpu> right. sorry. | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:49:35] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: though I'd probably suggest changing the start order of your init scripts | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:49:41] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: might be an easier fix | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:50:55] <halcyonCorsair> jamesturnbull: that was my first thought, but i think dhcp is simply taking unreasonably long to start | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:51:18] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: I always like fixing the underlying problem | ||
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| [2008/06/25 00:52:28] <halcyonCorsair> jamesturnbull: i think to fix the underlying issue i'd have to mess with the startup script to ensure that interface had an ip before ssh was started, which seems like a pain | ||
| [2008/06/25 00:54:52] <jamesturnbull> halcyonCorsair: whatever works | ||
| [2008/06/25 01:17:46] <zirpu> halcyonCorsair: is your server an ubuntu server? if so, is the problem with the network not coming up? i had a similar problem where I had a separate /var/ filesystem, and the / filesystem needs to have /var/run and /var/lock. | ||
| [2008/06/25 01:17:57] <zirpu> true a pita. | ||
| [2008/06/25 01:18:05] * zirpu wanders off to bed. | ||
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| [2008/06/25 01:23:02] <nevyn> is there an easy way to create a directory tree recursivly? | ||
| [2008/06/25 01:26:34] <nevyn> rather than having a resource for each element of the tree and requiring the parent? | ||
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| [2008/06/25 02:18:08] <fujin> nevyn: unfortunately not at this stage | ||
| [2008/06/25 02:18:11] <fujin> there is no upwards recursion | ||
| [2008/06/25 02:18:18] <fujin> although plathrop was working on it, a whiel back | ||
| [2008/06/25 02:18:59] <fujin> file { [ "/usr", "/usr/local", "/usr/local/blah" ]: ensure => directory } | ||
| [2008/06/25 02:19:03] <fujin> is the smallest way of doing it | ||
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| [2008/06/25 02:38:00] <dweazle> g'day | ||
| [2008/06/25 02:39:58] <jamesturnbull> dweazle: g'day | ||
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| [2008/06/25 03:00:41] <dweazle> anybody have experience with the mount resource? can i tell it to check if a device actually exists before trying to mount it and putting it in the fstab? | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:00:58] <lak> no, you can't | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:01:02] <dweazle> oh :( | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:01:03] <lak> it's not all that smart, in that way | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:01:43] <dweazle> lak: btw, thanks for a wonderful tool :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:01:52] <lak> glad you enjoy it :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:01:59] <dweazle> lak: i finally have no more excuse not to learn ruby ;) | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:02:03] <lak> heh | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:02:56] <dweazle> lak: then what is my best option? creating a custom fact that checks the existence of a device or something? | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:03:21] <lak> are you hoping to only mount the device if it exists, and ignore it otherwise, or what? | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:03:31] <lak> i'm about 2 minutes from falling into a coma from exhausting, ftr | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:04:24] <dweazle> yes, that's what i was hoping for .. i now put the mount options in a different class and configure it per node, but that's inefficient :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:04:29] <dweazle> oh how late is it over there ? | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:07:18] <lak> midnight | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:07:26] <lak> but it's been a long-ass day | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:07:41] <lak> hmm, not really a good option to do that right now | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:07:51] <lak> and i can't think straight enough to come up with one | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:07:55] <lak> sorry, brain no work | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:08:04] <dweazle> haha no matter :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:08:23] <dweazle> i'll just keep the seperate class for now until i can come up with something better | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:09:03] <dweazle> why is that line underlined, weird irssi | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:10:59] <lak> laters | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:11:01] @ Quit: lak: | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:14:29] <fujin> dweazle: you could make an exec resource which tests for the existence of the device you're trying to mount | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:14:33] <fujin> and then have the mount type require that one | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:14:38] <fujin> kind of like an assertion | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:15:21] <fujin> pastie: | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:19:01] <dweazle> oh yes, that's a good suggestion, thanks :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:19:09] <pastie> http://pastie.org/221704 by fujin. | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:19:38] <fujin> it'll generate errors when the manifest applies | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:19:44] <fujin> but uh, will kinda work | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:20:14] <dweazle> can't i supress errors for certain resources somehow? | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:24:00] <dweazle> nevermind, doesn't really matter anyway | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:24:36] <fujin> a cleaner way would probably be | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:24:38] <fujin> make a fact | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:24:46] <fujin> urhm that won't work, nm | ||
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| [2008/06/25 03:39:35] <zipkid> Goodmorning! | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:39:57] <dweazle> hi zipkid | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:45:11] <waawaamilk> if I want to interpolate a variable and don't want characters around it included in the variable name, can I wrap it in {} or something? | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:45:31] <waawaamilk> e.g. "This is a {$string}_house" | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:46:07] <zipkid> waawaamilk: i think but..... | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:46:18] <zipkid> if you try youwill know.... | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:46:24] <waawaamilk> yep, am trying | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:46:36] <zipkid> nd i 'think' it will NOT explode your box. | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:46:43] <zipkid> s/nd/and/ | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:46:48] <waawaamilk> certainly hope not! :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:47:09] <Volcane> ${string} | ||
| [2008/06/25 03:47:36] <waawaamilk> :) | ||
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| [2008/06/25 04:17:44] <dweazle> fujin: thanks your approach seemed to work, i now have an exec resource which tests the presence and a mount resource that requires the exec resource | ||
| [2008/06/25 04:17:56] <dweazle> so far so good :) | ||
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| [2008/06/25 04:52:38] @ Topic is "Welcome to Puppet on Redmine (http://tinyurl.com/48ek6g) | Please see http://snurl.com/1udr1 for channel guidelines | See http://snurl.com/1udr3 and http://snurl.com/2901u about two SSL issues" | ||
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| [2008/06/25 05:49:19] <thegcat> hello | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:50:19] <thegcat> anyone a little iptables savvy who could help me make localhost:3128 available as eth0:3128? | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:50:50] <glaw> thegcat: what are you trying to do? | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:51:02] <thegcat> glaw: | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:51:51] <thegcat> glaw: I have some weird restrictions on the network, and I managed to get a ssh remote port forward to wrk | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:51:57] <thegcat> work | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:52:13] <thegcat> but ssh on the remote host wil only listen to 127.0.0.1 | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:52:25] <thegcat> at least with the versions installed | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:52:45] <thegcat> but I would want it to listen on eth0 too, not only on lo | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:53:29] <glaw> i would recommend netcat, not IP tables | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:53:39] <glaw> much more straightforward | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:54:15] <glaw> man nc | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:54:16] <thegcat> glaw: not installed, as far as I can tell | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:54:23] <glaw> really? | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:54:28] <zipkid> thegcat: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:54:30] <thegcat> oh, that's installed alright, sorry | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:54:43] <glaw> enjoy ... | ||
| [2008/06/25 05:59:58] <thegcat> zipkid: oh, i thought i had to have a new enough client to specify a listen adress, didn't know i could force it on the server, thanks | ||
| [2008/06/25 06:00:23] <thegcat> glaw: ok, no need to map the port after all, thanks anyway | ||
| [2008/06/25 06:01:56] <zipkid> np :-) | ||
| [2008/06/25 06:11:06] <dweazle> it is possible to suppress failures for certain resources? | ||
| [2008/06/25 06:11:53] <dweazle> loglevel perhaps? | ||
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| [2008/06/25 07:15:11] <gileswork> elo puppetiers I want to use a plaintext password in a puppet node definition but for it to be encrypted when the user is created | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:15:30] <gileswork> has someone done an exec for this? | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:29:30] <gileswork> ah .crypt in ruby | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:32:02] <Volcane> what OS you on? | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:34:26] <Volcane> cos mostly things like md5 based passwords thesedays, but not everything | ||
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| [2008/06/25 07:45:38] <dweazle> can anyone recommend me a best practise regarding changing certain lines in config files? | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:46:03] <dweazle> usually i just push out a complete config from the fileserver, but in this case that isn't possible | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:49:15] <jamesturnbull> dweazle: there is a recipe on the wiki for something similar | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:49:48] <jamesturnbull> dweazle: wiki:Recipes/SimpleText | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:49:52] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: dweazle: wiki:Recipes is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:49:58] <mcbride> my guess is that this has been left etremely painful in puppet on purpose, to discourage people from doing it. | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:49:59] <dweazle> jamesturnbull: ah cool thanks | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:50:21] <jamesturnbull> mcbride: agreed - if you want to do something simlar you should develop a type | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:50:58] <thegcat> where should I be looking for errors if my puppetd doesn't seem to start the runner? | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:51:02] <dweazle> mcbride: possibly :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:51:26] <thegcat> or to be more precise: I have listen = true in the puppet.conf, but nothing listening on port 8139 on the machine | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:56:05] <gileswork> heya Volcane Linux here | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:56:50] <gileswork> .crypt appears to work but the encrypted password doesn't look right | ||
| [2008/06/25 07:57:13] <gileswork> it's supposed to use the os crypt library so I'm not sure what the problem is | ||
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| [2008/06/25 07:58:52] <Soahc> anyone using puppet/ruby on zfs? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:00:16] * Volcane did ages ago | ||
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| [2008/06/25 08:18:49] <dysinger> Is rubygems 1.x still an issure for 0.24.4 ? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:18:54] <dysinger> issue | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:19:15] <dysinger> It was at one time | ||
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| [2008/06/25 08:34:19] <jamesturnbull> dysinger: which issue? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:35:00] <dysinger> sorry I should have just looked | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:35:04] <dysinger> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/992 | ||
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| [2008/06/25 08:47:08] <tarjei> hi, I'm a puppet starter. What is the most usual way to link puppet and a RCS, for example subversion? Do you just run svn export to manifests or is there a better way? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:47:42] <fujin> I use Git, and have a pre-commit hook that checks if the manifest is valid, with puppet --parseonly --noimport | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:47:51] <fujin> also use branching quite extensively | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:49:42] <tarjei> but does git automaticly export the changes to puppet? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:49:59] <fujin> hm? no, that's a manual process | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:50:03] <fujin> (bash aliasess, here) | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:50:11] <tarjei> ok | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:50:14] <fujin> you could setup a post-commit hook to ssh to your puppetmaster and synchronise its configuration | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:50:17] <fujin> but I don't | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:51:11] <tarjei> no, that is a bit risky :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:51:42] <duritong> fujin: what do you do if you have custom resources defined? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:51:48] <duritong> my parseonly fails | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:52:09] <fujin> override the hook :} | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:52:23] <lazzurs> Hello, just looking in the typeref looking at users, what is the purpose of managehome if the homedir is not created by puppet? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:52:23] <fujin> we've actually stopped using it (the parseonly checker) for a lot of stuff | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:53:01] <fujin> manages_homedir: The provider can create and remove home directories. | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:53:04] <fujin> managehome | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:53:05] <fujin> Whether to manage the home directory when managing the user. Valid values are true, false. | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:53:09] <fujin> It does create/delete the homedir. | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:53:17] <jamesturnbull> duritong: oh I mentioned the other day that I had updated wiki:PuppetModules if you'd like to add some of your github modules to it | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:53:19] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: duritong: wiki:PuppetModules is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetModules | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:53:23] <duritong> what do you mean with override the hook | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:53:50] <fujin> if I've got some code that I know is working, I override the hook and push it up | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:54:30] <fujin> chmod -x .git/pre-commit | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:54:32] <fujin> or w/ever | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:54:35] <fujin> lol | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:54:38] <duritong> jamesturnbull: ah fine, ok i see what I can add, mainly those two repos are the one, two which I contribute currently http://github.com/duritong http://github.com/puzzle | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:54:43] <lazzurs> fujin: thanks again | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:54:47] <lazzurs> just what I was looking for | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:55:08] <duritong> fujin: hmm I'm not sure if we are talking about the same | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:55:46] <duritong> if I have a custom resource defined, like mysql_db, puppet --parseonly fails to parse the manifest | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:10] <fujin> custom resource? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:12] <fujin> you mean a type? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:14] <fujin> or a define | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:17] <duritong> type | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:18] <jamesturnbull> dryrot: a selection of your modules would be great - just gives people some starting points | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:19] <duritong> (sorry) | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:31] <fujin> that's bogus | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:32] <fujin> version? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:35] <fujin> reproducable 100%? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:39] <duritong> 0.24.4 | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:56:40] <duritong> yep | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:57:01] <fujin> does the manifest apply if you use it in a test.pp with puppet executable? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:57:10] <fujin> only doesn't work with --parseonly? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:58:12] <lazzurs> am I correct in thinking that the purge option to file will just empty the file? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:58:14] <duritong> http://pastie.org/221806 | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:58:27] <duritong> this manifest is used and works | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:58:53] <duritong> jamesturbull: do you thin I should add each specific module? | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:58:59] <duritong> I mean what do you prefer | ||
| [2008/06/25 08:59:20] <duritong> just a link on the github profile site, or rather collecting the modules on the modules page? | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:04:58] <jamesturnbull> duritong: well as many as you feel like would be good | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:05:20] <jamesturnbull> duritong: but yes - each individually as you can see on the current page | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:08:04] <duritong> ok | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:08:20] <duritong> fujin: do you think I should file this as a bug? | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:16:24] <duritong> jamesturnbull: some of my modules are forks of others, but are sometimes heavily changed, so should I add them behind the module already in the list? | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:17:17] <gepetto> ::puppet:: Puppet Modules edited by immerda @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetModules (by puppet@immerda.ch) | ||
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| [2008/06/25 09:20:37] <ezralini> What happened to my oatmeal! redmine?! I guess I haven't been reading the mailing lists lately | ||
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| [2008/06/25 09:27:04] <n5red-0> I'm trying to figure out where the line between configuration done by kickstart and configuration done by puppet should be drawn. Any suggestions? | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:27:41] <thom> n5red-0: IMO configuration done by the installer should be just enough to get puppet to run, and no more | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:28:16] <n5red-0> Yeah, that's not a bad approach | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:28:40] * ezralini seconds thom's opinion | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:28:52] * Volcane installs enough to make puppet+networking work, put down a puppet.conf and the rest is puppet (i dont do network setup via puppet) | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:29:15] <Volcane> puppet.conf from kickstart just enough to bootstrap it etc | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:29:20] <n5red-0> that would include setting host keys, pushing out at lease one key in to authorized keys, adding a repository with puppet and install it | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:29:46] <Volcane> i do those with a small puppet environment that gets used once | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:30:26] <Volcane> puppet installed during kickstart by adding a local repo using the repo option in ks | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:30:48] <mcbride> I agree with thom as well. | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:31:03] <mcbride> and as an addition would say, that the kickstart install should be really minimal. | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:31:18] <n5red-0> Ok. I'm trying to nail down those niggling details. | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:31:20] <mcbride> rock-bottom bare bones. | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:31:37] <jamesturnbull> duritong: some unique ones would be good | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:31:40] <mcbride> install all the "extra" software with puppet. | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:31:50] <duritong> ok | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:34:04] <jamesturnbull> ezralini: oatmeal? | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:34:24] * f3ew waves to n5red-0 | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:35:22] <ezralini> jamesturnbull: Sorry, somewhat obscure '90's reference. It was a TV commercial for Quaker Oats or something | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:35:34] <ezralini> Maybe an '80s reference, now that I think of it | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:35:46] <jamesturnbull> ezralini: don't think they made it to Australia | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:35:55] <ezralini> probably not | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:36:05] <jamesturnbull> ezralini: but yes we migrated to Redmine - very happy with the results too | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:36:34] <ezralini> It looks great. So much so that it's making me think of moving my group off of trac to redmine | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:36:40] <n5red-0> I've never set up Puppet before | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:37:39] <n5red-0> This is for a HPC system, it's up, but I want to fully automate the process of (re)building compute nodes. | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:38:16] <f3ew> Puppet itself is fairly trivial to setup | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:38:39] <DarkFlib> puppet is easy to set up (unless you forget the firewall like me) | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:39:33] <dweazle> uhm, i don't completely grasp how templates work (docs are a bit scarce).. where do i define variables to use in the template? :/ | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:40:05] <f3ew> dweazle in a node definition | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:40:06] <dweazle> i have a file resource with content => template('foo.erb'), now how do i pass vars to that template | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:40:54] <dweazle> f3ew: right, that's what i thought, but i get this errmsg: Failed to parse template sysctl.erb: Could not find value for 'oracle' at blabla.. | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:41:28] <dweazle> now that i think of it, maybe it's because the class is included before the var is defined.. | ||
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| [2008/06/25 09:42:53] <dweazle> yup that's it :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:42:57] <dweazle> d'oh | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:44:03] <f3ew> heh | ||
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| [2008/06/25 09:50:00] <kambiz> source URI types are either puppet or file? any plans to support http? | ||
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| [2008/06/25 09:50:59] <fsweetser> kambiz: yes, but it requires some major changes under the hood be finished first (the REST stuff) | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:51:12] <kambiz> *nod* | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:58:27] <kambiz> I do something that feels a bit icky right now to do this ... I use external_nodes, and in the script I call wget -q -O /etc/puppet/modules/foo/files/$clientname $url/$clientname | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:58:59] <kambiz> and in my files section later I use a source of puppet:// to the module and file in question. | ||
| [2008/06/25 09:59:29] <kambiz> but that means for every client checkin, the server is doing a wget. | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:05:44] <dysinger> Anybody know how to install debian packages from a source that has no gpg key ? I get the FAIL message with "use --force if you really want to install" | ||
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| [2008/06/25 10:09:07] <zirpu> find the public key and install via apt-key | ||
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| [2008/06/25 10:11:31] <dysinger> I just said there is no pubilc key | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:11:50] <dysinger> everything from ppa.launchpad.net is unsigned | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:14:29] <zirpu> sorry. didn't read the scroll. | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:14:38] <fujin> put them into a repo that has a key? | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:15:14] <dysinger> hmm | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:15:36] <dysinger> could I just download them and put them into my puppet files and install with dpkg ? | ||
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| [2008/06/25 10:15:44] <fujin> yup | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:15:49] <dysinger> coolio | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:15:52] <dysinger> thnx | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:16:02] <fujin> it's worth setting up a local repo though | ||
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| [2008/06/25 10:23:17] <Volcane> or just tell apt not to check keys? | ||
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| [2008/06/25 10:40:03] <lazzurs> Hello, I have an issue with the file server, on a puppet client I am getting an error about the source not existing however it does. If I am using modules can the files be in a sub-directory of the 'files' directory in the module? | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:40:26] <Volcane> yes, how does your source line look? | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:42:18] <lazzurs> ah, I named my module sshkeys | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:42:37] <lazzurs> source => "puppet:///sshkeys/ssh-production/ssh_host_key", | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:42:48] <lazzurs> I presume however this could be because of the module name? | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:43:56] <Volcane> so you have a file "sshkeys/files/ssh-production/ssh_host_key" in your module? | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:46:08] <Volcane> modules dir i mean | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:46:27] <Volcane> some ppl here had issues accessing subdirs inside the files directory like that, it works for me though | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:47:08] <lazzurs> sshdistkeys/files/ssh-production/ssh_host_key | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:47:18] <lazzurs> I renamed the module to sshdistkeys | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:47:58] <Volcane> k, then just change the source line to match | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:48:02] <lazzurs> I presume for the mean time I could remove that directory and all would work? | ||
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| [2008/06/25 10:48:29] <Volcane> prolly | ||
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| [2008/06/25 10:51:49] <lazzurs> ok that did not work either | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:54:16] <lazzurs> it was just a simple permissions issue | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:54:31] <lazzurs> because the files had been coppied from source they were only readable by root | ||
| [2008/06/25 10:54:38] <lazzurs> however puppetmaster runs as user puppet | ||
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| [2008/06/25 11:06:04] <ashp_> Hmm, centos 5.2 seems to work. :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:06:28] <dysinger> Is there anyway to have an Exec that is _only_ executed on notify ? | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:06:38] <fujin> refreshonly => true | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:07:00] <dysinger> but the docs say that's only appropriate for Exec that is subscribed | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:07:02] <dysinger> to a file | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:07:09] <fujin> no, it doesn't. | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:07:26] <Volcane> ashp_: yip, installed on a number of non crit machines, tested all my ks files are happy with it (they wanred some might not be) etc, no issues so far | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:07:55] <dysinger> "The command should only be run as a refresh mechanism for when a dependent object is changed. It only makes sense to use this option when this command depends on some other object" | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:07:55] <ashp_> I did an upgrade remotely and rebooted and crossed my fingers :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:08:06] <ashp_> I wonder if I should bother checking for any rpmnew files to merge in, config wise | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:08:17] <Volcane> there are a few for pam and stuff | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:08:19] <dysinger> thanks fujin - will try it | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:08:20] <Volcane> i wondered the same | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:09:05] <ashp_> things seem to be working so i'm tempted to leave it alone for now | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:09:12] <Volcane> yah | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:10:14] <Volcane> i had one issue acutally | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:10:30] <Volcane> they now made /var/run/snmp | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:10:35] <Volcane> which wasnt there before | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:10:45] <Volcane> and for some other reason i set snmpd to make a pid in that file :) | ||
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| [2008/06/25 11:11:32] <ashp_> haha, ouch! | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:11:40] <ashp_> I think from the defaults I've modified almost nothing | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:11:46] <ashp_> this server does web/dns/irc so.. | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:12:11] <Volcane> yeah i did that when i set snmpd to not log each and every connection it gets = 20s of lines each time cacti runs | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:14:05] <Volcane> anyway, was done through puppet, so no biggie, took like 20 seconds to sort out | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:14:42] <Volcane> ashp_: diff the rpmnew files in /etc/pam.d some new logic for uid >= 500 | ||
| [2008/06/25 11:14:50] <ashp_> I keep meaning to puppet my own server but never get the time, plus it'll confuse the hell out of my father | ||
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| [2008/06/25 11:56:52] <sigmonsays> so I realized puppetmasterd crashes the second it starts processing a different class (when under heavy traffic) -- interesting why. I know I have old puppetmaster version. | ||
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| [2008/06/25 12:04:56] <Aji-Dahaka> err: //default/sshd/Package[ssh]/ensure: change from absent to present failed: Sun packages must specify a package source | ||
| [2008/06/25 12:05:04] <Aji-Dahaka> how do I specify such a package source? | ||
| [2008/06/25 12:08:36] <lazzurs> Aji-Dahaka: just use source, eg source => 'http://0.0.0.0:8000/packages/Thunderbird-2.0.0.4-1.pkg.dmg', | ||
| [2008/06/25 12:08:43] <lazzurs> that was taken from http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#package | ||
| [2008/06/25 12:09:01] <Aji-Dahaka> thanks, lazzurs | ||
| [2008/06/25 12:09:18] <lazzurs> np glad I could help someone rather than just asking for help in here all of the time :) | ||
| [2008/06/25 12:10:28] <Aji-Dahaka> ooh, so with source...it says it must be something that your specefic packaging type understands...so if I can pkg-get -i <packageName> does that mean just <packageName> would work or ... ? | ||
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| [2008/06/25 12:14:06] <benp-> you could look at the source to get your answer puppet/provider/package/sun.rb | ||
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| [2008/06/25 12:34:17] <lazzurs> Aji-Dahaka: that does sound correct but I don't have a sun system here to play with, give it a try :) | ||
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| [2008/06/25 12:43:02] <Binford> ola Puppet community | ||
| [2008/06/25 12:43:34] <Binford> quick ? : anyone perhaps got an interface type example written for configuring a virtual interface under Xen or OPenVZ (preferably OpenVZ)? | ||
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