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| [2008/06/24 00:53:52] <jamesturnbull> hi all excuse some wild color changes whilst I test some updates to the Redmine theme to fit better with the new Trac theme | ||
| [2008/06/24 00:54:08] <jamesturnbull> functionality will otherwise be unimpaired. :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 00:54:10] <fujin> awesome | ||
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| [2008/06/24 01:07:27] <msf> does anyone here use LDAP nodes | ||
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| [2008/06/24 01:35:44] <nevyn> can I have a variable postfixversion that get's a default value somehow? | ||
| [2008/06/24 01:42:26] <f3ew> postconf mail_version | ||
| [2008/06/24 01:42:53] <f3ew> wiki: adding facts | ||
| [2008/06/24 01:43:03] * f3ew grrrs | ||
| [2008/06/24 01:43:24] <f3ew> gepetto wiki:adding facts | ||
| [2008/06/24 01:43:28] <f3ew> gepetto adding facts | ||
| [2008/06/24 01:43:35] <f3ew> every bot is different | ||
| [2008/06/24 01:43:52] <f3ew> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/AddingFacts | ||
| [2008/06/24 01:49:27] <jamesturnbull> f3ew: isn't that interesting. I wouldn't have thought it'd parse that with the spaces | ||
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| [2008/06/24 02:30:55] <f3ew> It didn't | ||
| [2008/06/24 02:31:00] * f3ew googled | ||
| [2008/06/24 02:31:41] <jamesturnbull> f3ew: wiki:AddingFacts | ||
| [2008/06/24 02:31:43] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: f3ew: wiki:AddingFacts is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/AddingFacts | ||
| [2008/06/24 02:31:52] <f3ew> yeah | ||
| [2008/06/24 02:31:53] <jamesturnbull> f3ew: do you did. :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 02:31:58] <jamesturnbull> s/do/so/ | ||
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| [2008/06/24 03:16:33] <Volcane> yawn | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:16:39] <zipkid> Morn | ||
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| [2008/06/24 03:20:02] <cajoel> anyone seen puppetd client failures on systems with low memory conditions? | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:20:18] * Volcane just restarted one cos of that :P | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:20:22] <zipkid> hmm... i heard of it using quite a lot | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:20:24] <Volcane> at least it hink its cos of that | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:20:39] <cajoel> I think so to | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:20:48] <cajoel> I mean I can cron a puppetkicker | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:21:01] <cajoel> but I was hoping there was a more robust solution | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:21:02] <Volcane> you can cron puppet if you're so inclined | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:21:15] <Volcane> but a little wrapper with locks and all is probably best | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:21:20] <cajoel> I'd need to add a splay-like function to the cron I think | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:21:25] <cajoel> right | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:21:47] <cajoel> it sort of defeats the puporse of daemon-mode | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:27:17] <Volcane> donno, this box has 256mb ram, but its also a shell server for various people and who knows what they get up to | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:27:33] <Volcane> 256 should be enough, but one of the ppl might be consuming lots of mem or something | ||
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| [2008/06/24 03:27:48] <Volcane> oh, actually its probably movable type cos its junk | ||
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| [2008/06/24 03:35:10] <msf> pastie: url me | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:35:38] <pastie> http://pastie.org/220991 by msf. | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:36:21] <Volcane> are you using a include nodes/*.pp or somesuch to load nodes? | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:36:43] <msf> no I disabled that include | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:36:53] <msf> err.. | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:36:59] <Volcane> so how do you load the nodes? | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:37:08] <msf> <deniro>you talking to me ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:37:14] <msf> ;-) | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:37:16] <msf> ldap | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:37:31] <Volcane> hehe ah ok | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:37:55] <msf> but some initial debugging of indirector/ldap.rb shows that indeed I am finding the nodeinfo in ldap | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:38:20] <msf> slapd logs are showing a query getting processed | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:38:46] * Volcane 's not done any ldap nodes | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:40:32] <msf> on a side note btw | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:40:50] <msf> where does the filebucket code live? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 03:50:17] <msf> fujin: #1250 lol | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:50:19] <gepetto> msf: fujin: #1250 is http://reductivelabs.com/redmine/issues/show/1250 | ||
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| [2008/06/24 03:54:49] <mcbride> huh. openbsd is not that broken, pkg_info shows the flavor of the package just fine: | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:54:59] <mcbride> vim-7.1.175-no_x11 | ||
| [2008/06/24 03:55:52] <mcbride> I'll admit there is a problem with adding packages with flavors in the current puppet, though. you have to spell out the full package name, you can't just say "vim". | ||
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| [2008/06/24 04:11:03] <duritong> mcbride: yeah looks like | ||
| [2008/06/24 04:11:51] <duritong> however i think this is only a problem since you don't have anymore to specify a concrete location for the package | ||
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| [2008/06/24 04:57:11] <dweazle> g'day :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:01:17] <dweazle> can i dynamically load a provider at puppet runtime from a class definition? (in my case the yumhelper), because when i start puppet yum is not yet installed, so the yumhelper can't be loaded unless it is | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:04:01] <dweazle> mm .. perhaps i can restart the puppet service with puppet after installing yum .. :P | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:21:43] <dweazle> mm that doesn't seem to work | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:22:11] <zipkid> dweazle: what are you trying to achieve? | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:22:21] <zipkid> high lec | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:22:30] <zipkid> high level. | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:24:53] <dweazle> i install packages with yum on RHEL4, but before it can do that yum has to be installed first. i install yum with puppet, but at that time the yum package provider is not registered with puppet because it wasn't available when first starting puppet | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:25:23] <dweazle> so, i now have to run puppet twice, first to install yum, second to install other packages using yum | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:25:32] <dweazle> and i would like to do it in one go :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:25:59] <zipkid> ah.... sounds tricky | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:26:13] <dweazle> yep.. | ||
| [2008/06/24 05:26:51] <dweazle> i could work around it by installing yum directly from kickstart i guess, but i prefer to keep the kickstart clean and do everything with puppet | ||
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| [2008/06/24 06:08:26] <msf> I install yum and puppet from my kickstarts | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:08:40] <msf> amongst other things | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:09:00] <msf> I even managed to convince HP to deliver my servers preinstalled with my custom kickstarts | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:09:20] <msf> so everytime HP delivers a new RHEL4 machine it's good to go | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:10:02] <msf> the best thing is I generate all of the kickstarts I provide HP with with cobbler. So I can reproduce the installs locally at anytime to reintall a machine to a fresh state | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:30:55] <Volcane> msf: thats pretty impressive, u must buy a boatload of kit from them | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:32:52] <silent> Hi, there | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:36:25] <msf> yeah we just bought like 7 million dollars worth of stuff :-P | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:36:44] <msf> anyone have storeconfigs working ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:39:23] <f3ew> heh | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:39:34] * f3ew feels jealous of msf | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:40:12] <mcbride> don't be. | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:40:55] <silent> I created some resources host { ""}, which chaged file /etc/hosts, After that i droped one resource host, but /etc/hosts didn't change. why? | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:41:18] <msf> f3ew: don't be my managers are really "special" | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:41:48] <msf> trying to get storeconfigs running and getting this | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:41:49] <msf> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Uncaught exception no such file to load -- sqlite3 in method puppetmaster.getconfig | ||
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| [2008/06/24 06:48:59] <Volcane> msf: i had to add: | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:48:59] <Volcane> dbfile = /var/lib/puppet/storeconfigs.sqlite | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:49:00] <Volcane> dblocation = /var/lib/puppet/storeconfigs.sqlite | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:49:05] <Volcane> one of those 2 sorted it out | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:49:27] <Volcane> msf: but if you have anything more than just a handfull of machines, sqlite isnt the way to go, you'll have endless locking/concurrency issues | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:51:23] <msf> you put that in which section ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:51:26] <msf> puppetmasterd ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:51:28] <msf> or main ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:51:31] <Volcane> yes, master | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:52:13] <msf> bleah | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:52:18] <msf> not working :-/ | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:52:30] <msf> lol | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:52:44] <msf> nothing I have tried to do with puppet worked today | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:52:49] <Volcane> hehe | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:55:27] <lazzurs> msf: if you don't mind me asking, what does storeconfigs do? | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:55:58] <msf> it stores the configuration from each client to a database | ||
| [2008/06/24 06:56:21] <msf> you need it if you want to do certain types of collections | ||
| [2008/06/24 07:03:21] <zipkid> the nagios example for exported / stored configs is l33t :-) | ||
| [2008/06/24 07:11:26] <lazzurs> msf: thanks, sounds very, very useful, I will be using that | ||
| [2008/06/24 07:13:35] <zipkid> lazzurs: it has quite some dpendencies not installed by puppet... | ||
| [2008/06/24 07:14:01] <zipkid> s/installed/provided/ | ||
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| [2008/06/24 07:58:38] <lazzurs> zipkid: I guess from that was said earler it can use more than sqlite, how about mysql? or postgresql? | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:05:50] <zipkid> yes. it's all explained clearly ..... | ||
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| [2008/06/24 08:07:11] <zipkid> here : http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingStoredConfiguration | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:10:40] <dweazle> msf, zipkid: for the record, luke already fixed the issue i had with yum: http://reductivelabs.com/redmine/issues/show/571 | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:10:52] <dweazle> :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:11:11] <ashp> man, puppet-dev really wants me to check out porn lately | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:12:37] <dweazle> anybody has any idea what this is: Could not create /foo/bar: Parameter source failed: Got other URL type 'http' from http://foo/bar ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:12:54] <dweazle> i have to types of sources for file resources, one is a puppet fileserver, other a webserver | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:13:31] <dweazle> apparently you can only use one sourcetype for a file resource, can anybody confirm that? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 08:24:00] <Volcane> i doubt http:// is a valid source type | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:26:02] <Volcane> "[CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.2 i386 and x86_64" | ||
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| [2008/06/24 08:36:19] <dweazle> oh | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:36:24] <dweazle> mm.. | ||
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| [2008/06/24 08:38:08] <dweazle> Volcane: you're right, thanks.. from the wiki: Currently, only the puppet scheme is supported for source URL's | ||
| [2008/06/24 08:44:26] <fsweetser> IIRC, that's on the list of things to be changed once REST is complete | ||
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| [2008/06/24 09:28:15] <keithlard> can anyone remind me if there's a way to bracket variable names, like in bash: ${foo} | ||
| [2008/06/24 09:30:08] <zipkid> keithlard: yes | ||
| [2008/06/24 09:30:27] <zipkid> i think.... | ||
| [2008/06/24 09:31:29] <keithlard> ah... i think it's exactly like that :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 09:33:44] <Disconnect> i can't get that kill_nodes_in_db script to work :( | ||
| [2008/06/24 09:33:47] <Disconnect> i hate ruby | ||
| [2008/06/24 09:34:50] <bma> I think it's #{foo}, no? | ||
| [2008/06/24 09:35:32] <keithlard> bma: yep, should have checked that really :D | ||
| [2008/06/24 09:35:42] <Disconnect> nm. script doesn't default dbname and such if its not present. :( | ||
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| [2008/06/24 10:06:27] <Disconnect> ok this sucks. i wiped node.foo.com out of all the configs, removed the storedconfig, wiped everything from /var/lib/puppet that referenced it... and it STILL keeps showing up! | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:07:02] <zipkid> Disconnect: #DEFINE "showing up" | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:07:11] <Disconnect> nothing from the client (which uses node.fum.foo.com) is referencing the old name, but its generating munin and nagios (etc) configs for it. | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:07:31] <Disconnect> which means sometime this afternoon its gonna start complaining about "cannot overwrite local resource" on those files and stop updating my puppetmaster | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:09:07] <zipkid> ok... i dunno... | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:14:37] <Disconnect> i can't figure out where its coming from. i stopped puppet and puppetmaster, wiped everything in /var/lib/puppet that contains the name, ran the db purge, etc. then it just shows back up when munin generates configs | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:14:45] <Shamgar> Now this is an interesting error. | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:15:37] <Shamgar> "Duplicate definition: Exec[postmap] is already defined in file /path/to/postmap.pp at line 6; cannot redefine at /path/to/postmap.pp:6 on node X" | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:16:44] <Volcane> included the same thing twice? | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:17:04] <Shamgar> nope. | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:17:14] <Shamgar> node X includes a class which includes the module that postmap is in. | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:17:30] <Shamgar> and the module's init.pp does the import defines/*.pp that pulls in the postmap file. | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:19:57] <Shamgar> hmmm...rerunning it doesn't bring the same error. Can't duplicate it. | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:19:58] <Shamgar> weird | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:20:08] <Volcane> yeah, i get lots of that with modules | ||
| [2008/06/24 10:20:13] <Volcane> very random and hard to reproduce | ||
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| [2008/06/24 10:44:24] <Disconnect> if i wipe out the storedconfig tables, it'll just recreate them right? at no 'cost' particularly | ||
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| [2008/06/24 11:22:31] <windowsrefund> hello | ||
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| [2008/06/24 11:37:20] <benp-> Disconnect: it should | ||
| [2008/06/24 11:45:15] <Disconnect> ya it did | ||
| [2008/06/24 11:45:24] <Disconnect> dunno what was wrong but - so far - its been ok | ||
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| [2008/06/24 12:31:40] <dysinger> hey - puppeteers - where can i find an example of autosign.conf ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:31:43] <dysinger> source ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:32:30] <thom> dysinger: it's just a list of hostnames, wildcards allowed | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:32:49] <dysinger> ok | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:32:53] <dysinger> thx | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:33:01] <dysinger> it's not on the wiki at all | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:33:05] <dysinger> fyi | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:33:27] <dysinger> and no samples I can see from grep in the source | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:33:41] <thom> yeah | ||
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| [2008/06/24 12:34:59] <sigmonsays> care to write some docs? :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:35:07] <sigmonsays> that'd help puppet a lot. :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:36:59] <dysinger> maybe after I get myself out of sysadmin hell | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:37:00] <dysinger> :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:37:07] <sigmonsays> hehe | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:37:36] * Disconnect tried 1.2.3.0/24 .. it didn't like that but it didn't say why not | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:38:13] <Disconnect> wildcards are just as easy tho | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:39:10] <dysinger> Now that I have an autosign.conf file it doesn't complain about it being missing. BUT it doesn't autosign - maybe because the existing request is already waiting for manual intervention ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:39:27] <dysinger> how can I delete or clean up cert signing requests ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:39:31] <dysinger> and try again | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:39:40] <Disconnect> puppetca -c {foo.com} might work | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:39:44] <Disconnect> or just sign it, then clean it | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:40:03] <dysinger> If I manually sign it I won't get to see that autosign works | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:40:17] <Disconnect> ..sign it, then delete it (puppetca -c) | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:40:22] <dysinger> ok | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:40:24] <dysinger> thnx | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:40:33] <Disconnect> cleaning it might work before its signed, i haven't tried | ||
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| [2008/06/24 12:43:41] <sigmonsays> I'm still a big FAIL trying to get custom facts working | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:44:45] <sigmonsays> the recipe in the wiki doesn't work either. unless I maade a mistake, which is likely ;^) | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:45:47] * Volcane got it going using wiki:AddingFacts | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:45:49] <gepetto> Volcane: wiki:AddingFacts is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/AddingFacts | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:46:07] <sigmonsays> I think I was reading something different | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:47:54] <sigmonsays> wtf. my vim just started typing "InsertTabWrapper()" when I hit <TAB> | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:48:48] <Volcane> vim can do some wikid tab completion | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:49:02] <Volcane> something you use obviosly pulled in the hooks for that | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:49:34] <sigmonsays> yup | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:50:04] <dysinger> does autosign use reverse dns ? It's not using the hostname that I gave it | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:50:10] <dysinger> that I gave the client | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:50:20] <dysinger> which resovles by forward dns | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:50:41] <dysinger> it looks like it does from the log | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:51:01] <sigmonsays> so I have all these *.conf symlinks in /etc/puppet/ -- which one do I actualyl need? is it puppet.conf or puppetd.conf ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:51:13] <martha> puppet.conf | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:51:22] <sigmonsays> puppetd reads puppet.conf too? | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:51:24] <sigmonsays> sweet | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:51:35] <martha> assuming a newish version, yet | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:51:38] <martha> err, yes | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:51:41] <Volcane> yeah with [puppetd] and [puppetmasterd] etc sections in it | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:51:58] <sigmonsays> i'll do a test run but I think i'm new enough | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:53:33] <sigmonsays> sweetness | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:53:54] <sigmonsays> considering the amount of *.conf my puppet master and puppets share the same config file :) makes things easier | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:56:53] @ Quit: lak: | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:58:11] <dysinger> ugh autosign is kicking my ass | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:58:31] <sigmonsays> give it the left | ||
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| [2008/06/24 12:58:49] <Volcane> i also had a tough time getting autosign to work right | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:58:53] <Volcane> with wildcards | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:59:24] <dysinger> I am trying 10.0.0.0/8 now | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:59:26] <martha> sigmonsays: does your line look like *.domain.tld ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:59:38] <sigmonsays> dysinger, ^^^ | ||
| [2008/06/24 12:59:57] <benp-> afaik puppet doesnt support CIDR style anywhere | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:00:12] <dysinger> well the problem is that puppetd is doing reverse lookup | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:00:32] <dysinger> so although my entire domain is xxxx.xx at ec2 which has valid forward dns | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:00:38] <thom> dysinger: oh, yeah, forward and reverse have to agree | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:00:49] <dysinger> puppet is thinking the hostname is omU-12-31-38-00-2A-04.compute-1.internal | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:00:56] <dysinger> something like that | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:01:01] <thom> otherwise it'd be a security hole you could drive a fleet of tanks through | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:01:16] <dysinger> I have it firewalled | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:01:17] <Volcane> hmm, need to make a fifo with puppet, dont suppose file{} supports that | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:01:34] <dysinger> well signing is the only part that's doing reverse lookup | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:01:50] <Volcane> signing isnt, acl is | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:01:54] <Volcane> afaik | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:02:00] <dysinger> it's ok I'll just put wild cards on the reverse name | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:02:06] <Volcane> it will sign based on cname, but only accept connections based on the acls | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:02:09] <dysinger> no CIDR eh ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:02:10] <dysinger> bummer | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:02:29] <Volcane> yeah well , i am not sure, i thought it works like fileserver.conf, but had no luck with it | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:02:44] <dysinger> fileserver has CIDR in it | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:02:46] <dysinger> hm | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:03:53] <Volcane> hmm, well | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:03:56] <Volcane> i have here a working sample | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:04:04] <Volcane> it has like | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:04:08] <Volcane> *.my.com | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:04:15] <Volcane> but, my ips has no PTRs | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:04:17] <Volcane> and it works | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:04:19] <Volcane> so i dont know | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:07:35] <thom> did anyone try puppet under jruby? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 13:10:05] <sigmonsays> Hmm.. puppet redid it's sign when puppet.conf changed | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:10:16] <sigmonsays> (well all *.conf but puppet.conf was removed ) | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:10:36] <sigmonsays> What's the [main] section used for? | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:11:47] @ Quit: andrewcshafer: | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:14:15] <thom> sigmonsays: for global configs | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:15:14] <sigmonsays> ahh ok. Man I just consolidated my *.conf into a single puppet.conf and now end up with "tlsv1 alert decrypt error" messages | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:21:33] <sigmonsays> is puppet 0.24.4 new enough to support a single puppet.conf ? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 13:23:21] <sigmonsays> err: Could not describe /facts: Certificates were not trusted: block type is not 01 | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:23:54] <sigmonsays> odd | ||
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| [2008/06/24 13:24:50] <martha> yes 0.24.4 is new | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:29:36] <martha> you just merged puppet*.conf, right? | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:31:02] <sigmonsays> yah. Somehow it changed my ssl stuff around | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:31:12] <sigmonsays> and now it's jacked | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:31:39] <sigmonsays> i'm still tryin things though | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:31:58] <sigmonsays> gotta get it to a strict set of commands that'll work on all machines ;-) | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:35:47] <sigmonsays> can I print all defined config values? | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:35:56] <Volcane> puppetd --genconfig | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:35:56] <martha> --genconfig | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:37:25] <sigmonsays> sweet. this will help tons | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:40:46] <sigmonsays> Ahh.. the biggest bold letters should state: "restart puppetmaster if all else fails" :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:40:56] <sigmonsays> I had a damn syntax error in my manifests | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:42:03] <muerr> fyi, puppet repo link update; http://github.com/sansnoc/puppet/tree/master | ||
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| [2008/06/24 13:47:43] <Volcane> oh | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:47:53] <Volcane> hmm, i think autosign.conf works on key names | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:48:00] <Volcane> thats a bit worrying | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:48:15] <dysinger> that hole you were talking about ? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 13:48:57] <Volcane> " and the path to a file, which uses that configuration file to determine which keys to sign." | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:49:04] <Volcane> that suggests autosign is based on key NAME? | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:49:10] <Volcane> not on ip or anytin glike that? | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:49:39] <Volcane> (thats from --genconfig) | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:51:21] <dysinger> benp puppet totally has CIDR support - I put 10.0.0.0/8 in my fileserver.conf and then watched the logs and saw "info: mount[modules]: allowing 10.0.0.0/8 access" | ||
| [2008/06/24 13:52:26] <Volcane> so i guess it will sign based on key name, then rely later on the acl's in fileserver.conf to restrict actual access? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 14:04:21] <muerr> yeah, i've got fileserver.conf entries w/: allow 10.1.0.0/16 | ||
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| [2008/06/24 14:06:43] <dysinger> from origin/master -> # FIXME autosign? should probably accept both hostnames and IP addresses | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:07:09] <dysinger> currently only supports hostnames which are reverse lookup | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:07:35] <dysinger> so if your PTR records are not the same as your hostname you have to put the PTR record name in the autosign.conf file I bet | ||
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| [2008/06/24 14:19:24] <dysinger> when i use genconfig it dumps a file that says all configuration params are in the same namespace | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:19:38] <dysinger> but then looking at http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingMultipleEnvironments | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:19:50] <dysinger> it suggests the opposite | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:20:06] <dysinger> [main] | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:20:07] <dysinger> modulepath = /usr/share/puppet/modules | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:20:07] <dysinger> [development] | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:20:07] <dysinger> modulepath = /usr/share/puppet/development/modules | ||
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| [2008/06/24 14:35:40] <dysinger> does someone have a good solid fileserver.conf I can look at ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:38:42] <dysinger> echo '*' >/etc/puppet/autosign.conf ; # fuck it - please just work so I can go back to something productive :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:38:43] <sigmonsays> if I use a fact in a string, (custom fact) -- do I use "/blah/$role/blahh" or "/blah/%{$role}/blah" | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:38:58] <sigmonsays> dysinger, I know how ya feel | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:39:03] <sigmonsays> I never got deny working properly | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:40:34] <sigmonsays> err, make that "#{role}" | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:41:06] <dysinger> Puppet is awesome - once I get it working on the job, I am going to use it on my 4 macs at home. | ||
| [2008/06/24 14:45:19] <dysinger> how do you guys handle ssl certs ? What happens if a puppet client machine blows up? How do you handle getting it back in signed ssl cert bliss with the puppet master ? the private certs for the client are on the client machine and could go away. | ||
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| [2008/06/24 15:01:47] <duritong> dysinger: simply redo then if you autocreated them | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:01:57] <duritong> so remove them on the master and let the client create new certs | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:02:11] <duritong> if you have create them on the puppetmaster: play them back | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:02:16] <dysinger> you don't revoke - just delete the cert files ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:02:24] <dysinger> on the master | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:02:59] <dysinger> correct ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:04:02] <duritong> --clean | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:04:44] <jbrothers> what is the idea behind ~/.puppet ? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 15:06:13] <duritong> imho for puppet, so you can use it also as your user | ||
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| [2008/06/24 15:09:33] <andrewcshafer> jbrothers: if you are not running puppet as root, but just want it to manage your own personal setup | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:09:38] <andrewcshafer> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lkanies/2607531773/in/photostream/ | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:09:46] <andrewcshafer> tshirts | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:10:02] <andrewcshafer> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lkanies/2608363278/in/photostream/ | ||
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| [2008/06/24 15:17:04] <runlevel> can anyone recommend a good doc for setting up SVN on puppetmasterd ? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 15:18:46] <Volcane> svn to manage the manifests? | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:18:58] <Volcane> or how to isntall svn server using puppet? | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:19:19] <runlevel> wow i totally typed the wrong thing. i meant to say CRON | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:19:45] <runlevel> im working on a pastebin of my configs to see if maybe that would help someone figure out whats wrong. | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:19:58] <Volcane> lol | ||
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| [2008/06/24 15:20:15] <Volcane> so just to setup a cronjob? | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:20:48] <runlevel> ya i want to manage the crons on all my servers in the field | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:20:59] <runlevel> http://pastebin.com/d53eb7a2a here is my cron test config but doesnt seem to work | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:21:45] <Volcane> what gets added to roots crontab? | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:21:49] <Volcane> or what error do you get? | ||
| [2008/06/24 15:22:19] <runlevel> lemme grab all that | ||
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| [2008/06/24 16:08:44] <sigmonsays> is there a svn resource? | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:10:32] * sigmonsays tasks himselef with writing one | ||
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| [2008/06/24 16:11:57] <Volcane> what would it do? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 16:15:45] <martha> there is an svn class | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:17:24] <sigmonsays> I want one to manage a svn repo to check it up dated | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:17:37] <sigmonsays> keep* | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:18:53] <martha> http://github.com/lak/puppet-subversion/tree/master/manifests/svnserve.pp | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:19:02] <Volcane> like run a svn up in some place or set up new repos? | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:19:19] <sigmonsays> i'd like the svn up in some plces | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:19:28] <sigmonsays> svncli module really -- it'd run in client mode | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:19:58] <sigmonsays> might just tie it together w/ a series of exec though ;) | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:20:30] <martha> look at what i just sent | ||
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| [2008/06/24 16:23:00] <sigmonsays> whoa. Woot! | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:23:02] <sigmonsays> score marth++ | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:23:11] <sigmonsays> preetty much what I had in mind :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:25:41] <Aji-Dahaka> ah, your topic has the solution to what I was seeing...so any idea how long before the patch that allows cnames to be used easily will take? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 16:29:59] <Volcane> Aji-Dahaka: for ssl or what? | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:30:05] <Aji-Dahaka> yup | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:30:20] <Aji-Dahaka> one of those links mentions that a patch is on the way | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:30:23] <Volcane> whats not working? i use CNAMEs to make 'puppet' resolve | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:31:09] <Aji-Dahaka> if my client tries to connect to puppet, it says the cert is not correct for the host, if I instead use ivysaur.itssint.und.edu, it works fine | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:31:29] <Volcane> oh, thats cos when you generated the master certificate initially it was made with the full name | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:31:51] <Volcane> you can do the certname=puppet on the master and remake all the certs (but will then also need to resign all the clients etc) | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:32:17] <Aji-Dahaka> just starting, so there's only one client...not a big issue to do that | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:32:36] <Aji-Dahaka> but...I won't be able to use any other name if I tell it to generate, for instance, as puppet | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:32:54] <Volcane> yes, the master will have one name in its cert | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:32:57] <Aji-Dahaka> I can't use puppet.itssint.und.edu or ivysaur or ivysaur.itssint.und.edu | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:33:04] <Volcane> and everything should talk to that name | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:33:23] <Aji-Dahaka> I suppose the most convenient name will be puppet | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:33:29] <Aji-Dahaka> what's thecommand to regenerate certs? | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:33:39] <Volcane> yes, for my master that serves many domains, i just put a puppet in each domain | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:33:45] <martha> you can use other names, just put them in certdnsnames | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:33:54] <Volcane> martha: ah :) | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:34:11] <Aji-Dahaka> I think I'll probably just use resolv.conf and search domains for the hosts not in itssint | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:34:27] <Volcane> keeping things simple though does wonders | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:34:34] <Volcane> ie. make everything speak to puppet, then its all predictable | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:35:07] <Aji-Dahaka> yeah...altnames would be better, imho | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:39:17] <Aji-Dahaka> huh, I just changed certnames in the puppetmaster config file, started puppet on the test client, didn't have to sign it again | ||
| [2008/06/24 16:43:16] <Aji-Dahaka> that's neat. I like how easily that worked out | ||
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| [2008/06/24 16:59:54] <dysinger> If you have a whole sequence of things to do in a row what's the best thing to do ? I often have to install package, send files, check the service is running. | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:00:16] <dysinger> Do I have to specify "before" or "require" for each to make a sequence ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:00:20] <dysinger> it's tedious | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:00:35] <dysinger> Can't I just put them in a block or something ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:00:51] <dysinger> to make sure they get run in sequence ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:02:09] <Aji-Dahaka> with puppetd running, how often does it check for a configuration? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:02:47] <Volcane> i think 30 mins is default | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:03:10] <Volcane> dysinger: unfort no :( need require things | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:03:15] <Volcane> dysinger: though some stuff autorequire | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:03:38] <dysinger> no need to require things ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:03:38] <Volcane> dysinger: file{"/path/to/file": ...} will make sure file{"/path/to": } happens first | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:03:50] <Volcane> so in that case you wouldnt need to add requires | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:04:10] <Volcane> but its not clever enough to say require a config file before trhe service starts on its own | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:04:30] <dysinger> no I am talking about file { "somefile" } & service { "somesrv": require => File["somefile"] } | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:04:49] <Volcane> yes, thats required | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:05:00] <dysinger> if the service needs the file then I have to make sure there is an order | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:05:20] <dysinger> but as soon as you have 2 or 3 things that have to happen in order it's a PITA | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:05:40] <dysinger> It would be nice to just have a sequential primitive in the DSL | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:07:02] <Volcane> the require will do the ordering for you | ||
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| [2008/06/24 17:07:41] <Volcane> but yeah its a PITA | ||
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| [2008/06/24 17:17:53] <cajoel> Anyone coming up to SF this thursday? | ||
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| [2008/06/24 17:22:36] <sigmonsays> got a spare $1600 ?:) | ||
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| [2008/06/24 17:42:38] <dysinger> Is there any generic way to watch for service config file changes and then restart the service ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:42:50] <dysinger> or do I have to subscribe to every file ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:45:35] <Volcane> server {"exim": subscribe => "/etc/exim/exim.conf"} | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:45:40] <Volcane> s/server/service | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:45:51] <Volcane> yip, pretty much subscribe to files | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:46:09] <Volcane> if you have your configs all wrapped in a class, say exim::config which will put down 10 files | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:46:21] <Volcane> you can subscribe to Class["exim::config"] | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:46:38] <Volcane> though I'd say test that first | ||
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| [2008/06/24 17:56:23] <dysinger> what happens when I update puppet manifests and modules ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:56:31] <dysinger> does puppet master automatically pick up on that ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:57:00] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:58:38] <runlevel> where do i set the settings for frequency of node checking? | ||
| [2008/06/24 17:59:42] <Volcane> check puppet --genconfig it will show you a fully commented copy of its configuration, search for interval in that | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:00:19] <runlevel> koolness | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:04:08] <mcbride> dysinger: alternatively in your file resources you can notify => Service["exim"] | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:04:30] <dysinger> hmm ok that's right I forgot that | ||
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| [2008/06/24 18:04:44] <dysinger> notify will restart a service ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:06:18] <Volcane> yip | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:07:04] <dysinger> cool | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:08:08] <dysinger> some parts of the docs and books say you should use File['somefile'] when referring to an file that has been defined. | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:08:19] <dysinger> yet in the type reference you see lower case used. | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:08:27] <dysinger> does it matter ? If not I would use all lower | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:08:36] <martha> File is correct | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:08:43] <dysinger> ah | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:08:44] <martha> file[] is deprecated | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:08:56] <dysinger> TypeReference need update | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:12:11] * Volcane wish special time periods would work on cron again :( | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:14:07] <sigmonsays> Is it a known bug (issue really) that if you make a syntax error in puppet master, puppetd isn't notified of a sytnax error until the master restarts? | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:16:58] <Volcane> its not always that way, but does happen to me too | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:17:05] <Volcane> certainly not supposed to be that wya | ||
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| [2008/06/24 18:47:25] <pasha> how can a get a list off all default nodes from the command line that have been added so far | ||
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| [2008/06/24 18:50:00] <sigmonsays> "default nodes?" ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:50:28] <pasha> all nodes that have been added to the master | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:50:56] <sigmonsays> ahh, I always look in /var/lib/puppet/ssl/ca/* | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:50:56] <pasha> all the server that are in the default node | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:51:43] <pasha> which file in there? | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:52:00] <pasha> inventory | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:52:03] <pasha> got it | ||
| [2008/06/24 18:52:08] <Volcane> look in /var/lib/puppet/yaml/node | ||
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| [2008/06/24 19:10:52] <dysinger> any debian heads in here ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:11:04] <martha> yes | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:11:14] <dysinger> If I add another source list do I have to apt-get update myself with exec ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:11:23] <martha> yes | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:11:24] <dysinger> before I install things from that source | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:11:25] <dysinger> ok | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:12:03] <dysinger> thanks martha | ||
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| [2008/06/24 19:17:33] <dysinger> Is it better to have all imports in one place or to define which modules depend on what other modules from the init.pp ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:17:48] <dysinger> I lean towards one place | ||
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| [2008/06/24 19:30:05] <dysinger> I wonder when ubuntu is going to get around to updating ruby's buffer overflow that was brought to light a while back.... | ||
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| [2008/06/24 19:38:15] <dysinger> martha -> on debian if you say ensure => "latest" when does it go do the apt-get update ? ever? | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:38:44] <dysinger> or do you have to use apticron or cronapt outside of puppet ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:38:45] <martha> puppet doesn't run apt-get update ever | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:38:49] <dysinger> ah | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:39:10] <dysinger> note to self: install cronapt | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:39:35] <dysinger> ubuntu / debian has an unattended upgrade package too | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:39:42] <dysinger> I need to do more homework | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:42:00] <bda> Can you exec in ERB? e.g., <%= `cat something` %> | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:44:51] <benp-> ya | ||
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| [2008/06/24 19:46:00] <dysinger> are modules automatically imported ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:46:09] <dysinger> or do you have to manually import them ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 19:46:34] <martha> automagic, as long as you have the files named correctly | ||
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| [2008/06/24 20:26:40] <dysinger> what's the best practice ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 20:26:51] <dysinger> modules as atomic and small as possible ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 20:27:03] <dysinger> one or two related packages and files needed | ||
| [2008/06/24 20:27:06] @ Quit: jvanzyl: | ||
| [2008/06/24 20:27:33] <dysinger> or as course grained as possible ? | ||
| [2008/06/24 20:27:52] <dysinger> I lean towards the second but I understand the 1st would be better for sharing your modules | ||
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| [2008/06/24 21:10:27] <mcbride> hi | ||
| [2008/06/24 21:16:02] <msf> hello | ||
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| [2008/06/24 21:22:51] <rakslice> is there a way to put a literal double-quote in a variable? | ||
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