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[2008/06/08 10:48:02] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: sen lak
[2008/06/08 10:48:07] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: seen lak
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[2008/06/08 11:50:25] <Jonny> Hi all - I have a small problem which I hope you could help me with, the puppetmaster fileserver claims its modules aren't mounted when I run the client
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[2008/06/08 12:21:52] <jamesturnbull> holoway: iclassify screenshots?
[2008/06/08 12:30:40] <Volcane> Jonny: did you make a 'modules' mount in fileserver.conf?
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[2008/06/08 12:33:26] * Volcane wonders why factpath doesnt = factdest by default.
[2008/06/08 12:36:16] <Jonny> Volcane: Well yes, I have a section [files], for example, and I access it using "puppet:///files/..." - the thing is, the files seem to download successfully
[2008/06/08 12:36:19] <Jonny> But the errors persist
[2008/06/08 12:37:23] <Volcane> Jonny: you also need a section [modules]
[2008/06/08 12:37:44] <Volcane> see http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation
[2008/06/08 12:37:58] <Volcane> near the bottom of section 'Module Lookup'
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[2008/06/08 13:30:55] <Jonny> Volcane: Thanks for your input, but aren't these 'modules' for manifests different to the 'modules' referred to in the fileserver configuration?
[2008/06/08 13:31:09] <Jonny> I was under the impression that 'modules' in the fileserver.conf simply meant a section name.
[2008/06/08 13:43:53] <Volcane> no, if you dont create a section for modules you have no way to do access control to the files in your modules
[2008/06/08 13:44:29] <Volcane> so the [modules] section is a special section - see theres no path ? - fileserver will map the it to the module name automagically but use the allow/deny options in there to restrict access to module files
[2008/06/08 13:44:40] <Volcane> without it the fileserver doesnt enable its special mapping for modules
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[2008/06/08 19:27:52] <fujin> oi, any ruby-fu guys around? is activerecord applicable to generic database calls, like say DBI in perl?
[2008/06/08 19:28:41] <fujin> I understand how it works in a rails environment, even merb, but trying to apply it to generic dbi interactions is what I'mw ondering about
[2008/06/08 19:29:09] <shadoi> yeah, we use it outside of rails in puppet
[2008/06/08 19:29:20] <shadoi> You might want to look at Sequel and/or DataMapper though
[2008/06/08 19:29:46] <fujin> well they're both the same, aren't they? just ORM's.
[2008/06/08 19:29:58] <shadoi> yes, all 3 are ORMs
[2008/06/08 19:29:59] <fujin> I'll see if I can piss around with AR to make it do what I want.
[2008/06/08 19:30:15] <fujin> i have some data that some previous coder wrote, designed the dbs etc
[2008/06/08 19:30:25] <shadoi> AR is sort of a bad choice outside of a web environment.
[2008/06/08 19:30:29] <shadoi> It's not thread safe
[2008/06/08 19:30:33] <fujin> I see
[2008/06/08 19:32:52] <fujin> <3 Datamapper
[2008/06/08 19:32:58] <fujin> activerecord was the first thing that came to mind
[2008/06/08 19:34:52] <shadoi> Sequel just hit 2.0 and it looks great, I haven't used it yet though.
[2008/06/08 19:35:06] <fujin> I was playing with DM the other day in Merb
[2008/06/08 19:35:54] <fujin> 2.0.1 now, shadoi
[2008/06/08 19:35:57] * fujin installs
[2008/06/08 19:35:59] <shadoi> nice
[2008/06/08 19:36:42] <shadoi> grr.. coffee shop closing me on.
[2008/06/08 19:36:42] <fujin> ah
[2008/06/08 19:36:45] <shadoi> on me.
[2008/06/08 19:36:46] <fujin> Sequel looks nice. Does what I want
[2008/06/08 19:36:49] <shadoi> wow, i'm lysdexic
[2008/06/08 19:36:50] <fujin> arbitrary SQL queries
[2008/06/08 19:37:00] <fujin> DB << "create table t (a text, b text)"
[2008/06/08 19:37:03] <shadoi> yeah
[2008/06/08 19:37:04] <fujin> that's epic.
[2008/06/08 19:37:08] <fujin> ty shadoi :]
[2008/06/08 19:37:11] <shadoi> but you can use it as an ORM too
[2008/06/08 19:37:12] <shadoi> which is nice
[2008/06/08 19:37:19] <fujin> aye
[2008/06/08 19:41:06] <fujin> pita
[2008/06/08 19:41:07] <fujin> `adapter_class': Could not load mysql adapter: (Sequel::Error::AdapterNotFound)
[2008/06/08 19:41:40] * fujin prods
[2008/06/08 19:43:20] <fujin> oh, fail
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[2008/06/08 20:03:10] <jamesturnbull> I'm loving the Redmine guys - I request a unified view viewer for ticket attachments - 18 hours later we have one.
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[2008/06/08 20:07:46] <fujin> jamesturnbull: niiice
[2008/06/08 20:07:50] <fujin> unified = builtin?
[2008/06/08 20:08:44] <jamesturnbull> fujin: well unified is the format but yes built-in
[2008/06/08 20:09:31] <jamesturnbull> fujin: you can see it in any tickets that have a .diff or .patch attachment
[2008/06/08 20:10:31] <fujin> niiice
[2008/06/08 20:10:40] <fujin> that was my only complaint!
[2008/06/08 20:10:59] <jamesturnbull> fujin: your whim is my command . :P
[2008/06/08 20:21:58] <fujin> hrm
[2008/06/08 20:22:06] <fujin> porting my perl cisco backeruperer to ruby
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[2008/06/08 20:23:46] <fujin> bloody cisco and non-rfc compliant telnet
[2008/06/08 20:24:19] <jamesturnbull> fujin: "backeruperer"? LOL. Is that termonology unique to Aus/NZ I wonder?
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[2008/06/08 20:25:21] <fujin> LOL
[2008/06/08 20:25:23] <fujin> I dunno man
[2008/06/08 20:25:38] <fujin> it's a good one though eh :D
[2008/06/08 20:26:19] <jamesturnbull> fujin: never heard it outside of Oz before
[2008/06/08 20:26:32] <jamesturnbull> fujin: but I figure NZ is like a state anyways :)
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[2008/06/08 20:47:48] <fujin> anyone have a copy of the Ruby Cookbook (digital?)
[2008/06/08 20:49:45] <fujin> nm foudn it
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[2008/06/08 21:11:30] <waawaamilkvampyr> jamesturnbull: oi!!!
[2008/06/08 21:11:47] * waawaamilkvampyr takes offense :)
[2008/06/08 21:11:58] <jamesturnbull> waawaamilkvampyr: heh too easy to tease the Kiwis... :)
[2008/06/08 21:12:59] <waawaamilkvampyr> jamesturnbull: *cough* warratahs *cough*
[2008/06/08 21:13:05] <waawaamilkvampyr> :)
[2008/06/08 21:13:40] <jamesturnbull> waawaamilkvampyr: you win once in a blue moon and you lot gt all excited. *coughs* New Zealand cricket team *coughs*
[2008/06/08 21:14:02] <waawaamilkvampyr> hehehe
[2008/06/08 21:26:38] <fujin> man, Sequel is super awesome
[2008/06/08 21:26:40] <fujin> check that out
[2008/06/08 21:26:42] <fujin> DB['select hostname,device_type from devices'].each do |row|
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[2008/06/08 21:39:53] <fujin> ugh, there's the wall I didn't want to hit
[2008/06/08 21:40:00] <fujin> stupid cisco devices page output automatically
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[2008/06/08 22:18:43] <fujin> shadoi: played with Sequel all morning - did exactly what I wanted and more.. very very nice
[2008/06/08 22:18:53] <fujin> cool how you can turn it into an ORM aswell
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[2008/06/08 22:22:56] @ Topic is "Welcome to Puppet on Redmine (http://tinyurl.com/48ek6g) | Please see http://snurl.com/1udr1 for channel guidelines | See http://snurl.com/1udr3 and http://snurl.com/2901u about two SSL issues"
[2008/06/08 22:22:56] @ Topic set by jamesturnbull on Tue Jun 03 01:57:42 -0400 2008
[2008/06/08 22:24:44] <shadoi> fujin: yeah, I'm thinking I'll use it for some upcoming projects
[2008/06/08 22:25:36] <fujin> might take a looksie at the next time I write a merb app, it has a sequel orm setting
[2008/06/08 22:25:59] <shadoi> *nod*
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[2008/06/08 23:12:52] @ Topic is "Welcome to Puppet on Redmine (http://tinyurl.com/48ek6g) | Please see http://snurl.com/1udr1 for channel guidelines | See http://snurl.com/1udr3 and http://snurl.com/2901u about two SSL issues"
[2008/06/08 23:12:52] @ Topic set by jamesturnbull on Tue Jun 03 01:57:42 -0400 2008
[2008/06/08 23:13:16] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: hello
[2008/06/08 23:13:17] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: hello owner :)
[2008/06/08 23:13:18] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: help
[2008/06/08 23:13:19] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: help topics: 9 core modules: auth, basics, config, filters, httputil, irclog, remote, unicode, userdata; 8 plugins: factoids, redmineurls, rss, salut, seen, shortenurls, stats, tracurls (help <topic> for more info)
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[2008/06/08 23:17:59] <fujin> salut!
[2008/06/08 23:18:02] <fujin> gepetto: help salut
[2008/06/08 23:18:03] <gepetto> fujin: no help
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