| [2008/06/01 00:08:28] <madduck> Volcane: yeah, and that should be fixed | ||
| [2008/06/01 00:10:27] * Volcane can't be bothered filing bugs against debian, it'll be all he ever does | ||
| [2008/06/01 00:11:07] * Volcane will rahter be workless than work on another debian site after current contract | ||
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| [2008/06/01 00:27:33] <madduck> Volcane: either you are very much out of luck or doing something very wrong then. :) | ||
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| [2008/06/01 00:45:20] <jamesturnbull> madduck: your issue is SSL hostname | ||
| [2008/06/01 00:45:28] <jamesturnbull> madduck: see the urls in the channel topic | ||
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| [2008/06/01 03:27:15] <hacim> Volcane: madduck it is fixed now | ||
| [2008/06/01 03:27:32] <madduck> :) | ||
| [2008/06/01 03:27:35] <madduck> thanks, micah! | ||
| [2008/06/01 03:27:45] <hacim> thanks for reporting it, a lot of people have not :P | ||
| [2008/06/01 03:27:55] <madduck> call me #1 debian bug reporter; | ||
| [2008/06/01 03:27:58] <gepetto> madduck: #1 is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1 "Differentiate classes from definitions" | ||
| [2008/06/01 03:28:02] <madduck> i think i may even still be. | ||
| [2008/06/01 03:28:10] <hacim> i found out about it about 20 minutes before your bug report because i read about it on a blog? | ||
| [2008/06/01 03:28:18] <hacim> heh | ||
| [2008/06/01 03:29:28] <hacim> madduck:kcuddam | ||
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| [2008/06/01 09:37:27] <e^ipi> okay... so | ||
| [2008/06/01 09:37:45] <e^ipi> why is puppet getting bored after installing daemons and not installing mongrel like i bloody well told it to? | ||
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| [2008/06/01 10:10:24] <gepetto> ::puppet:: Ticket #1273 (defect created): Can't restart puppetd from puppetd @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1273 (by ask@develooper.com) | ||
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| [2008/06/01 11:23:39] <jamesturnbull> e^ipi: gems? | ||
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| [2008/06/01 19:02:47] <DavidS> hi all! | ||
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| [2008/06/01 19:10:18] <DavidS> hallo unki! | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:12:54] <unki> hallo david | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:13:59] <unki> hast du dich schon mal an einer eigenen CA fuers puppet versucht? scheitere daran gerade etwas... | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:14:34] <DavidS> unki: -ELANG :) we should be respectful of the others | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:14:43] <unki> sure :-) | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:14:50] <DavidS> to answer your question, no i didn'T try, what's you're specific problem? | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:16:39] <unki> puppetca works ok. it generates certificates within the PKI without any problem. When I try to connect with a puppet client the first time, it get successfully a certificate (and it's correct - I can verify it with "openssl verify"), but then always puppetd always reports "tlsv1 alert unknown ca" | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:17:11] <unki> I'm already tried to debug openssl::ssl a bit, but it's a pain... | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:17:18] <unki> oh, I have already.... | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:17:22] <DavidS> yeah, I hear it's a horrible mess | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:18:06] <DavidS> any reason why you don't just certify puppet's ca to integrate the whole tree into your trust domain? | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:19:04] <DavidS> to stay with your specifics: /var/lib/puppet/ssl/certs/ca.pem should contain the right ca, does it? | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:20:12] <unki> yes, I was also thinking about this way. But I thought about creating the ca & its key on a secure machine... | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:20:33] <DavidS> you can run a puppetmaster in ca-only mode | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:20:47] <DavidS> and redirect all key-mgmt request from the clients there (via puppet.conf) | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:21:05] <DavidS> see --caserver in the wiki:ConfigurationReference (or something similar) | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:21:14] <gepetto> DavidS: wiki:ConfigurationReference is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ConfigurationReference | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:21:37] <unki> you mean on the client? yes, ca.pem is there and contains the right public CA cert. I also tried to concatenate all public CA certs of the hierarchy together... | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:22:27] <DavidS> You surely have double-checked whether you ca has all the same attributes as your custom one? | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:22:39] <DavidS> ... as the puppet one | ||
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| [2008/06/01 19:24:08] <unki> Yes, the pubkey of the CA get also enrolled in /etc/ssl/certs and it's exactly the same. Currently I try to locate, if this "tlsv1 alert unkown ca" comes from the client or server. Because in tcpdump I see some packets passing... | ||
| [2008/06/01 19:27:05] <unki> do you really think the option is called caserver? because I can't find anything about it in trac or in the actual git checkout | ||
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| [2008/06/01 19:28:26] <David1> god i hate the network here | ||
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| [2008/06/01 19:55:36] <unki> ah, now I found it. ca_server you meant. | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:08:50] <DavidS> nice, 8-60x increase over ruby1.8: http://blog.obiefernandez.com/content/2008/05/maglev-is-gemst.html | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:08:57] <DavidS> speed increase, that is | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:09:32] <ashp> wow, nice! | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:09:39] <ashp> Are they aiming to integrate this with stock ruby? | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:10:23] <DavidS> no, maglev seems to be a proprietary implementation of the VM | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:10:58] <DavidS> http://ruby.gemstone.com/ | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:11:05] <DavidS> not very informative | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:11:45] <DavidS> here's some interview about the product : http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/04/maglev-gemstone-builds-ruby | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:11:48] * DavidS is reading | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:13:47] <duritong> sometimes i'm quite iritated by native ruby | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:14:10] <duritong> i think there have been a ruby compiler in javascript which have been faster than native | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:14:34] <DavidS> \o/ | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:15:14] <duritong> http://ejohn.org/blog/ruby-vm-in-javascript/ | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:15:55] <DavidS> http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/04/maglev-gemstone-builds-ruby | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:17:13] <DavidS> duritong: "The server-side CGI script (in Ruby, using Ruby 1.9) compiles the incoming Ruby into its associated opcodes and serializes it into a JSON data structure." | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:17:29] <DavidS> interpreting opcodes is a completely different game | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:22:21] <duritong> I also read recently something about languages and that they should be written in itself, what was mentioned to be the main reasons for ruby being so slow | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:22:44] <duritong> however this was more just a opinion | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:25:00] <duritong> http://weblog.raganwald.com/2006/11/significance-of-meta-circular_22.html | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:43:08] <DavidS> duritong: thanks, was a nice read .. | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:44:34] <DavidS> I wasn't cnciously aware of the fact that ruby's core classes are written in C, therefore I'm even more amazed how slow the interpreter is :-/ | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:45:44] <ashp> i wonder if it's just a naive reinvention of the wheel that makes it slow? | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:46:28] <ashp> whatever happened to that 'parrot' thing that was supposed to be a vm core for perl/python/other projects | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:46:42] <DavidS> still in development? | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:46:56] <ashp> i just hadn't heard anything from it in years, i figured it had maybe collapsed | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:48:59] <DavidS> -->> http://www.madstop.com/tools/a_first_pass_at_dtrace.html | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:49:20] <DavidS> it amazes me that something simple like nil? can show up with _any_ significant amount of execution time | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:50:33] <duritong> yeah this is really odd | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:51:10] <ashp> why the hell does nil? show up at all | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:51:12] <ashp> odd | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:51:20] <ashp> maybe 1.9 will improve some of this | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:52:51] <DavidS> my bottleneck seems to be database time though: Stored catalog for fw-schmidg.edv-bus.at in 49.91 seconds, Compiled configuration for fw-schmidg.edv-bus.at in 57.39 seconds | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:53:34] <ashp> Mine are relatively fast, apart from one broken module I've been too lazy to fix | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:53:55] <ashp> it tries to automount /homes/ off nfs for all servers and that fails | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:54:09] <ashp> that is probably going to become my first actual define because I'm tired of watching servers time out to nfs :) | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:55:55] <duritong> 1.9 should improve such things as well i could watch that memory management is done much better | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:56:12] <duritong> however i think continuation and others aren't anymore supported | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:56:39] <duritong> which is something that in my opinion any modern programming should have | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:17:11] <jamesturnbull> shadoi: ping - can I pick your brains about ActiveRecord? I am doing some Trac-to-Redmine migration | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:17:44] <shadoi> sure | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:17:56] <jamesturnbull> so Redmine has a trac migration rake task | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:18:05] <jamesturnbull> http://github.com/yugui/redmine4ruby-lang/tree/master/lib/tasks/migrate_from_trac.rake | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:19:57] <jamesturnbull> it copies users from tickets/wiki tables in Trac (all Sqlite3) to Redmine | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:20:37] <jamesturnbull> but it doesn't pick up user's names and email addresses consistently so I adapted it to pull those details from the session_attribute table | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:20:44] <jamesturnbull> http://pastie.caboo.se/206455 - around line 200 for or | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:21:02] <jamesturnbull> but I get an error when it runs - http://pastie.caboo.se/206454 | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:21:14] <jamesturnbull> and lak suggested you might be a good person to ask as he is off training | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:23:35] <shadoi> k 1 sec | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:23:59] <jamesturnbull> thanks - any help much appreciated - ActiveRecord is entirely new to me | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:24:04] <shadoi> ok, so it's failing a validation check | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:24:15] <shadoi> hang on, simple fix | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:25:41] <shadoi> ok, so in the Redmine user model you need to either change/temp disable the validates_length_of call, or pad the usernames | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:26:53] <jamesturnbull> okay.... | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:27:16] <jamesturnbull> so the User.new call expects a certain size? | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:27:52] <shadoi> Yeah, should be a simple 1 line method call in app/models/user.rb | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:28:07] <shadoi> validates_length_of :username, :in => ... | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:30:41] <jamesturnbull> shadoi: so it'd probably be better to pad right? | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:31:23] <shadoi> yeah I think so | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:31:26] <shadoi> kind of annoying though | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:31:33] <jamesturnbull> actually that validates line has maximum size = blah length | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:31:39] <shadoi> It may be a fairly arbitrary requirement | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:31:40] <jamesturnbull> so I pad to max size? | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:31:46] <jamesturnbull> that seems ... oddd | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:32:03] <jamesturnbull> surely if the data fits in the size then it should just accept it? | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:32:15] <shadoi> lemme clone it, hang on | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:33:24] <jamesturnbull> bb in ten ticks | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:36:03] <shadoi> jamesturnbull: ah, I think I misread. I think it's expecting an array when it finds a single email address. | ||
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| [2008/06/01 23:46:56] <shadoi> jamesturnbull: it looks like a bug in the gloc plugin that they're using | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:47:13] <shadoi> it's expecting there to be a range specified, but rails doesn't require it. | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:47:21] <shadoi> and their code doesn't handle it | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:47:46] <shadoi> like 197 in vendor/plugins/gloc-1.1.0/lib/gloc-rails.rb | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:47:52] <shadoi> s/like/line/ | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:49:48] <jamesturnbull> shadoi: okay | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:50:00] <jamesturnbull> shadoi: so how do I fix it? | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:50:09] <shadoi> you can hack that plugin up to allow it | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:50:24] <shadoi> But I'm not even sure what that plugin is for | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:50:24] <shadoi> heh | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:50:45] <shadoi> ah, localization | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:51:12] <jamesturnbull> so comment out the range thing? | ||
| [2008/06/01 23:53:03] <shadoi> yeah, that's what I'd try | ||
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