| [2008/04/16 00:03:01] <hX8> ballpointpenthie: are you running freebsd ? | ||
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| [2008/04/16 00:04:46] <ballpointpenthie> CentOS. I copied the .pid file over and got it working | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:05:17] <hX8> ah kee cause it does not work out of the box on freebsd; you have to change it | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:06:02] <duritong> hX8: did you file a bug or is it more a packaging issue? | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:06:21] <hX8> its a rcNG issue I guess | ||
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| [2008/04/16 00:20:52] <hX8> duritong: its a rcNG bug where --pidfile gets declared after the command starts; i'll file a PR about this. | ||
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| [2008/04/16 00:26:42] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Ticket #1190 (defect created): Puppetd exits if it receives a bad certificate @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1190 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 00:42:31] <winrefund> hi | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:43:05] <winrefund> I'm trying to use an override. Would someone mind commenting on http://pastebin.com/m3c0f61c5 | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:44:32] <Demosthenex> i think you have to define foobar first | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:45:03] <winrefund> thought I did that | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:48:04] <mikepea> hi, anyone know what the plan is for hash support in the puppet language? I see it is mentioned in the wiki:LanguageEvolution page, but can't find an enhancement ticket for it... | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:48:06] <gepetto> mikepea: hi: wiki:LanguageEvolution is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageEvolution | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:50:56] <Demosthenex> neat, i hadn't read that | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:52:19] <winrefund> ok, so overrides only work on resource types | ||
| [2008/04/16 00:52:28] <winrefund> so maybe I'm doing this wrong | ||
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| [2008/04/16 01:04:56] <thom> has anyone seen: | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:04:58] <thom> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Puppet::Parser::Compiler failed with error ArgumentError: Resources do not accept created_at on node lid-backstage-5 | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:05:21] <thom> the resources table has been migrated properly and has a created_at field | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:05:30] <thom> and some hosts work, and some don't | ||
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| [2008/04/16 01:40:11] <kyrh> hi, all. I have a problem with puppet configuration. I want refresh /etc/sysctl.conf on target server and run "/etc/rc.d/sysctl restart", puppetd log say "...ity/Service[sysctl]) Triggering 'refresh'", but init script doesn't run. Same procedure for ntpd work fine. My config: http://freebsd.pastebin.org/29978 | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:40:16] <kyrh> any hints? | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:41:01] <duritong> can you pastie the concrete part of your manifest? | ||
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| [2008/04/16 01:42:03] <kyrh> duritong: you mean node configuration? | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:42:44] <duritong> hmm more where you defined the service | ||
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| [2008/04/16 01:45:39] <kyrh> duritong: http://freebsd.pastebin.org/29981 | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:46:23] <kyrh> duritong: I'm using freebsd. sysctl service specific -- no runned daemons with this name present. | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:46:58] <duritong> hmm unsure if the enabled is doing the problem | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:47:32] <kyrh> duritong: I test it, already. Without result. | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:47:42] <duritong> that it has no daemons specific is mainly a problem to determine the status | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:47:51] <duritong> hmm then i don't know | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:48:56] <mellen> kyrh: if it's not a daemon why not just use exec with refreshonly? | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:49:10] <duritong> and btw: there is a sysctl plugin | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:49:23] <duritong> i'm running it at least on openbsd and linux | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:50:05] <kyrh> duritong: currently I know about this plugin, too. :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:50:09] <benp-> sysctl plugin for puppet? | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:50:15] <duritong> yeah | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:50:19] <duritong> it's nice :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:50:25] <benp-> ooh.. where ? | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:50:30] <duritong> either on the wiki | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:50:33] <benp-> that would be really useful for me on openbsd | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:50:59] <benp-> and i need to figure out how plugins work anyways | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:51:13] <kyrh> mellen: I'm newbies. Could you, please, describe litle more? Or you, also, talking about this plugin? | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:51:31] <duritong> or you find a compete module here: https://git.puppet.immerda.ch/?p=module-sysctl;a=summary | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:52:50] <benp-> you use freebsd a lot kyrh? | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:53:27] <mellen> kyrh: exec { "restartSysctl": command => "/etc/rc.d/sysctl restart", refreshonly => true } ... file { "/etc/sysctl.conf": ... notify => Exec["restartSysctl"], ... | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:53:32] <mellen> (something like that anyway) | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:56:29] <kyrh> mellen: thanks! | ||
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| [2008/04/16 01:58:17] <benp-> who owns git.puppet.immerda.ch ? | ||
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| [2008/04/16 01:58:36] <duritong> benp-: why? | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:59:08] <mellen> kyrh: np | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:59:11] <benp-> just curious | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:59:18] <duritong> benp-: me | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:59:27] <duritong> and some other ppl | ||
| [2008/04/16 01:59:31] <benp-> ah | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:02:03] <lak> martha: you around? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:02:17] <martha> lak: yes | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:02:31] <lak> martha: are you still experiencing #1178? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:02:33] <gepetto> lak: martha: #1178 is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1178 "Inconsistent node names" | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:02:38] <martha> yes | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:02:41] <lak> i didn't get any response when asking for people experiencing it | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:02:51] <lak> are you using node_name = facter? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:02:53] <martha> yes | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:03:29] <lak> ok | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:03:33] <alephant> Puppet client's can't talk to the server, and I'm going absolutely bonkers: | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:03:36] <lak> can you update the ticket with that information? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:03:55] <martha> it is in the initial report | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:03:59] <martha> "This started happening when I changed node_name to facter." | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:04:52] <alephant> If client:puppet.conf:main:server="foo", and server:puppet.conf:puppetmasterd:certname="foo", I get no communication from client to server. Client simply times out. SSL check verifies that CN="foo". | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:05:29] <alephant> If client:puppet.conf:main:server="bar", however, I get the famous "hostname was not match with server certificate" SSL error. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:06:25] <alephant> Switching the server:puppet.conf:puppetmasterd:certname="bar", and the client goes back to timing out, even though the SSL test succeeds. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:06:35] <alephant> Please help before I throw something out the window :-D | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:09:10] <lak> martha: oh; i missed that entirely somehow | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:09:11] <lak> huh | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:09:26] <duritong> http://pastie.org/181138 | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:09:46] <duritong> anybody might have an idea what might be the problem? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:09:59] <martha> sorry, I tried to make that clear | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:10:01] <lak> martha: why did you change node_name to facter? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:11:27] <martha> lak: because my puppetmaster has multiple names. and the certname is in a different domain from the hostname. and my manifest does different things based on the domain | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:11:55] <lak> huh | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:11:55] <lak> ok | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:12:14] <lak> i'm thinking that the only reasonable fix to this is to have all info stored by cert name | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:12:26] <lak> because that's the only info i have on all connections | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:12:36] <lak> so it's the only way i can always find the right info | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:12:40] <martha> that really really breaks things for me | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:12:44] <lak> it shouldn't | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:12:48] <lak> it's just how files are stored on disk | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:12:53] <lak> has nothing to do with anything else | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:12:53] <mellen> duritong: bad path? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:12:56] <martha> ok | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:13:07] <duritong> mellen for plugins there shouldn't be any paths | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:18:18] <plathrop> duritong: My guess is a variable expansion that isn't happening because the variable is nil | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:23:58] <bender183> hi | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:26:40] <benp-> i havent used debian in years but im considering it for my puppetmaster box. should I use debian or a derivative like ubuntu? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:27:50] <plathrop> benp-: The downside to Debian is their glacial release cycle. The upside is it's a very stable distro. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:28:08] <plathrop> benp-: I'm using Debian for my puppetmaster, and it works well. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:28:27] <benp-> yeah, the packages tend to lag behind.. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:28:42] <benp-> and does your puppetmaster come from a package or gem or..? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:29:06] <plathrop> We installed the package from unstable | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:29:18] <bender183> anyone here a cfengine to puppet convert? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:29:31] <benp-> 0.24.4? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:29:57] <plathrop> Yes | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:30:55] <benp-> ok, sold.. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:30:56] <mellen> bender183: yes | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:31:07] <shiruken> yes | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:31:22] <martha> benp-: I also use the 0.24.4 packages from unstable on debian etch | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:32:45] <sigmonsays> Is there a way to tell all puppets to reload their configs? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:32:53] <bender183> mellen: any particular reason? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:32:55] * sigmonsays assumes from the puppetmasterd server | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:33:06] <plathrop> sigmonsays: check out puppetrun | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:33:30] <bender183> im just learning about puppet now, and i my prod env is like the wild west and i need to implement one or the other immediatly | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:34:36] <sigmonsays> plathrop, awesome. thanks. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:35:57] <sigmonsays> plathrop, do you knwo the site offhand? I can't find anything but newsgroups | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:36:01] <benp-> if i already have tftp and dhcp, all i need is netboot.tar.gz to install debian right? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:36:07] <mellen> bender183: there where a couple of things I never figured out how to do in cfengine. Like multiple sources for a file and the built in file templating. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:36:43] <plathrop> sigmonsays: It's part of Puppet. Go to the puppet site and look at the "Executable Reference" | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:37:16] <mellen> bender183: take a look at this if you haven't already: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/CfengineVsPuppet | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:40:13] <bender183> mellen: ty | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:40:55] <thecat> bender: cfengine is a lot more "stable" in the sense that puppet is under very active development | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:41:05] <thecat> but I still like puppet better | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:41:13] <thecat> it just makes a lot more sense to me | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:41:17] <bender183> it seems like puppet tries to reduce complexity, a good example is the way both handle Operating system classes | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:41:39] <bender183> yeah ive seen that while rtfm'n on puppet alot of yet to be implemented features | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:42:03] <thecat> the twiki manual also only references the current version. (best I can tell) | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:42:21] <thecat> so sometimes you read about a feature, and then can't use it... without upgrading your puppets | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:42:37] <thecat> so I've resigned myself to keeping my puppets up to date | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:42:44] <thecat> thankfully I found suse and ubuntu packages | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:44:18] <bender183> heh, yeah part of the problem is currently i work in an environment which is about 99% solaris, which i have about 1 year of experiance with as opposed to linux which i have about 10 years of experiance with | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:44:52] <bender183> however it seems puppet used solaris as one of its feature platforms for initial development | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:46:08] <thecat> have fun! | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:46:15] <bender183> meh | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:46:39] <bender183> i miss linux | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:46:41] <bender183> =[ | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:46:46] <bender183> but ty | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:48:08] <sigmonsays> Are there puppet man pages? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:48:33] <plathrop> sigmonsays: most of the puppet commands respon to --help | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:48:45] <sigmonsays> ko | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:48:45] <plathrop> sigmonsays: man pages depend on how it got installed I think | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:49:00] * sigmonsays thinks there should always be man pages | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:49:28] <sigmonsays> I can't figure out what puppetrun does | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:51:33] <plathrop> sigmonsays: With a little bit of setup (setting listen=true in the puppet.conf on your clients) puppetrun allows you to trigger a puppet run on any listening client. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:51:49] <plathrop> sigmonsays: You can also use it to trigger puppet runs on groups of clients. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:52:08] <plathrop> sigmonsays: I understand it works best with an LDAP back end, but it's easy to script. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:52:15] <sigmonsays> gotcha | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:52:27] <sigmonsays> i'm just having a hard time finding complete documentation | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:52:45] <sigmonsays> ie, puppetrun has no man page, doesn't rsepond to --help | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:53:33] <plathrop> sigmonsays: Something must be up with your installation, because --help works great for me. | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:53:41] <plathrop> Do you have 'ri' installed? | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:54:20] <sigmonsays> I don't | ||
| [2008/04/16 02:54:49] * sigmonsays installs ruby-docs | ||
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| [2008/04/16 02:59:19] <sigmonsays> thanks benp- and plathrop | ||
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| [2008/04/16 03:11:17] <kposs> is something like package { [package1, package2]: ...... } legal? | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:12:48] <Volcane> yip | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:14:11] <kposs> Volcane: does yip mean yes? | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:15:40] <Volcane> yip :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:15:46] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:16:03] <ballpointpenthie> Should port 8140 be open on my client? It is filtered. | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:19:54] <stick> ballpointpenthie: only if you have puppetd set to listen mode (for using puppetrun) | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:20:38] <lak> even then it'll listen on 8139 | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:20:40] <stick> actually listen mode is 8139 I think | ||
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| [2008/04/16 03:22:47] <ballpointpenthie> openssl s_client -connect puppet-test.XXX.com:8140 | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:22:48] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Changeset [d738f31dd33f6f4683b78f49041a302e4d95eae7]: Adding the necessary tests for webrick to have... @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/changeset/d738f31dd33f6f4683b78f49041a302e4d95eae7 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 03:30:32] <ballpointpenthie> what port does the puppetmaster run on? | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:30:49] <stick> ballpointpenthie: 8140 by default | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:31:35] <nigelk> is it possible to have an external node classifier that returns a node that inherits from a normally defined node? | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:31:48] <nigelk> (where normal means 'not external node') | ||
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| [2008/04/16 03:33:32] <plathrop> nigelk: It's my understanding that external nodes completely replace internal nodes | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:33:42] <plathrop> nigelk: I think they are mutually exclusive | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:33:44] <nigelk> that's what I thought and was hoping wasn't the case | ||
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| [2008/04/16 03:33:47] <nigelk> :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:34:04] <nigelk> maybe I'll poke around and see if I can do a patch to merge them | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:34:44] <nigelk> basically I'd like to keep our current puppet config, but have an external node script for users to have self-service software installation via a web/database app | ||
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| [2008/04/16 03:51:02] <kposs> what is the difference between subscribe and require? | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:51:31] <ashp> one notifies a service when things change | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:51:38] <ashp> and require puts a dependency on something else | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:51:51] <ashp> so you require => if you're going to need say, a package before the service | ||
| [2008/04/16 03:51:59] <ashp> and you subscribe to a service if you modify a file | ||
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| [2008/04/16 03:59:59] <Demosthenex> i've noticed that i'm monitoring a file's md5, and the mode changes, and it triggers a subscription notice ;] | ||
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| [2008/04/16 04:31:05] <uyriry686> www.HOTTIES4FREE.tk XXX BRUNETTES | ||
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| [2008/04/16 04:36:47] <kposs> can templates be used with classes or only with definitions? | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:39:40] <Demosthenex> i thought anywhere... | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:39:46] <Demosthenex> meaning a template for file contents, right? | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:39:58] <kposs> Demosthenex: yes | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:40:09] <Demosthenex> anywhere you specify a file | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:40:34] <kposs> I am reading off of http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetTemplating | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:42:58] <Demosthenex> still, i don't think it matters | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:44:06] <kposs> that is what I am figuring, how do you set variables for templates and then pass it in? That isn't clear to me. | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:44:46] <Demosthenex> i think the templates can access any existing variable | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:45:28] <Demosthenex> in the scope when template is called | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:45:44] <Demosthenex> the example on the page you're looking at uses $name, which is only valid inside that definition. | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:45:50] <kposs> so just assign it inside the class? | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:46:03] <kposs> or them as the case may be | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:46:10] <Demosthenex> yep | ||
| [2008/04/16 04:46:28] <Demosthenex> that allows you to override the vars in inherited classes, and it'll affect their templates too | ||
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| [2008/04/16 05:55:56] <chadh> lak: ping | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:55:57] <lak> pong | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:56:16] <chadh> lak: I got confirmation that I can do the training. How's the count looking? | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:56:20] <lak> great | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:56:25] <lak> well, with you it makes three :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:56:29] <chadh> crap | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:56:35] <lak> yeah | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:56:41] <lak> i'm getting a few more people expressing interest, anyway | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:57:07] <chadh> If this one falls through, when do you think you would try for the next? | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:57:12] <lak> not sure | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:57:16] <lak> maybe early fall | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:57:57] <lak> i might just try to do something in nashville, too, since it'd be cheaper for me and i might be able to get a deal on the facility | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:58:09] <lak> so if we had fewer people we could still do it | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:58:18] <chadh> that would be cool | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:58:19] <lak> i still have hope that this one will turn out, tho | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:58:46] <plathrop> I'm really hoping so. I've been looking forward to it. | ||
| [2008/04/16 05:58:57] <chadh> oh, on another subject, do you know if Bartosz is using puppet for his cluster? | ||
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| [2008/04/16 06:00:40] <lak> no, he's not | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:00:42] <lak> which is too bad | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:01:02] <lak> i pushed him on it over dinner a few weeks ago, but he was resolute :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:01:02] <chadh> indeed | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:01:24] <chadh> the campus HPC group uses something akin to isconf | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:01:59] <lak> yay | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:02:17] <lak> "it may not be very powerful, but at least it's inflexible" | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:02:38] <chadh> heh | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:03:14] <chadh> It grew out of the system that we have here, and I am looking to replace it with puppet, so I have lots of debates with those guys | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:03:22] <lak> heh | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:03:41] <lak> i'd be glad to be involved in the debates | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:04:01] <lak> i'm especially interested in hearing what people are getting from their tools right now and what they'd like from puppet | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:04:33] <chadh> If this training goes through, I can definitely bend your ear over a whiskey :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:05:41] <chadh> We have a pretty pathological case as to why script- and ssh-based methods fall down | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:06:06] <chadh> (over 250 solaris configuration "patches" -- 2 day install) | ||
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| [2008/04/16 06:07:26] <shadoi> lak: trying to fix some reports for use with 0.24.4, I've changed to using register_report, but now it Puppet.settings.use(:reporting) is returning nil | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:07:41] <shadoi> any idea what I'm missing? | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:07:44] <lak> does that return code matter? | ||
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| [2008/04/16 06:08:10] <shadoi> hmm... well I think it's not giving me access to our /etc/puppet/reports.conf | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:08:13] <lak> ah, i see it kinda could | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:08:34] <shadoi> so it's using the defaults, which are invalid | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:08:45] <lak> i don't understand | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:08:54] <lak> it should be chowning that file so puppetmasterd can read it? | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:08:55] <lak> or what? | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:09:12] @ Quit: emerose_: | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:09:36] <shadoi> ok so it does config = Puppet::Util.Settings.new, and the | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:09:43] <shadoi> then it does config.setdefaults | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:10:05] <shadoi> when it runs config.parse(Puppet[:reportconfig]) it uses the defaults it set there instead of what should be coming from our reports.conf file | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:10:39] <lak> ahhh, so you have a new settings instance | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:10:43] <shadoi> yeah | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:10:49] <shadoi> it worked fine in 0.23.2 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 06:10:55] <lak> what does your reports.conf look like? | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:11:15] <shadoi> it sets some database options, hang on | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:11:29] <shadoi> does it just need a section header? | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:12:15] <shadoi> http://pastie.org/181286 | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:12:19] <shadoi> that's the file | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:14:01] <lak> it really shouldn't need a header, but... maybe? | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:14:27] <lak> any useful debugging from the .use output? | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:15:00] <shadoi> yeah when it pukes when it tries to parse the defaults, just complaining about nil objects | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:15:15] <shadoi> trying with a header | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:16:38] <shadoi> digant just made me realize we haven't applied the patch that adds that configuration section.. heh | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:18:48] <lak> patch? this your patch, or part of puppet? | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:18:55] <shadoi> our patch | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:19:10] <shadoi> http://pastie.caboo.se/181284 | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:19:16] <shadoi> which... looks like it's also no longer valid | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:21:43] <lak> shadoi: i renamed configuration.rb to defaults.rb | ||
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| [2008/04/16 06:22:22] <shadoi> yup, fixed it, testing now | ||
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| [2008/04/16 06:47:07] <shadoi> why can't I create a branch of a tag branch with git? | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:47:19] <shadoi> git checkout -b 0.24.4 | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:47:28] <shadoi> git branch my0.24.4 0.24.4 | ||
| [2008/04/16 06:47:40] <shadoi> fatal: Ambiguous object name: '0.24.4'. | ||
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| [2008/04/16 07:07:14] <fujin> shadoi: does git tag -l list 0.24.4? | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:07:19] <fujin> if not, git fetch --tags | ||
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| [2008/04/16 07:09:51] <fujin> root@junglist (branch: 0.24.x) /srv/git/puppet.upstream# git checkout --track -b my0.24.4 0.24.4 | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:09:55] <fujin> Switched to a new branch "my0.24.4" | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:15:58] <jamesturnbull> morning all | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:16:34] <fujin> hiya | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:18:10] @ Quit: lak: | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:32:23] <benp-> hum.. is anyone using debian + apache + mongrel that can tell me what apache modules they have enabled? the puppetmaster is seeing my clients coming through the proxy as 127.0.0.1, using the same /etc/httpd/conf.d/puppet_mongrel_balancer.conf i use on CentOS. | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:33:40] <fujin> uh, sure | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:33:40] <benp-> it looks like it's a missing apache module.. unless it's something in the main httpd.conf that comes with debian | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:33:42] <fujin> sec | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:34:10] <josb> Hi all. Quick question: what's misconfigured when the puppetca.getcert call fails on a new client with a `400 Bad Request'? | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:34:29] <pietros> benp-: headers, proxy, proxy_balancer, proxy_http, authz_host | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:34:32] <jamesturnbull> pastie: url me | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:34:35] <josb> This is with nginx/Mongrel | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:34:49] <fujin> proxy / proxy_balancer / proxy_http / headers | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:34:55] <pastie> http://pastie.org/181342 by jamesturnbull. | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:35:01] <benp-> i mean, i noticed the UsingMongrelOnDebian page suggests using a standalone conf file instead of including one.. | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:35:13] <jamesturnbull> benp-: ^^^^^ | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:35:21] <benp-> thanks guys | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:35:26] <fujin> pastie: url0r! | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:35:36] <pastie> http://pastie.org/181345 by fujin. | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:35:43] <fujin> benp-: ^ | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:36:02] <plathrop> fujin: You crack me up | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:36:13] <fujin> what why!? | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:36:52] <jamesturnbull> plathrop: that's just the way he rolls... :P | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:37:10] <plathrop> fujin: Because of the way you have fun talking to the irc bot. | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:37:15] <josb> fujin: that's what I use in nginx but still get the error. SIgned clients work fine. | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:37:24] <fujin> oh ;> | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:37:33] <fujin> josb: weird! | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:37:37] <fujin> I have no experience with nginx ;( | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:37:42] <josb> Me neither :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:37:54] <fujin> opted to go with apache as it was already running on my master | ||
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| [2008/04/16 07:38:06] <chadh> jamesturnbull: you have a preference for where I purchase the book (where you get the biggest kickback :)) | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:38:06] <josb> at any rate I followed the wiki page about nginx and it' not working... | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:38:37] <josb> fujin: like your setup tho, maybe I'll jut switch. | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:39:06] <jamesturnbull> chadh: no preference | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:39:11] <jamesturnbull> whatever suits you bets | ||
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| [2008/04/16 07:51:56] <shadoi> fujin: yeah it does, I think I may have messed it up by creating a local branch named that before fetching the tags or something | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:53:39] <fujin> ah, weird | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:53:47] <fujin> if you delete it you should be able to create a branch ontop of it | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:56:07] <josb> fujin: you using mod_proxy_balancer? | ||
| [2008/04/16 07:56:39] <fujin> yea | ||
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| [2008/04/16 07:59:58] <josb> OK, thanks. It looks like the nginx config on the wiki isn't complete as it looks like it lacks --caport=8141 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 08:00:47] <fujin> feel free to update it :> | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:01:59] <benp-> is the nginx config basically cut and pasteable? | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:02:33] <benp-> because i'm getting annoyed at apache | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:03:55] <josb> no, not here afaict | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:04:17] <josb> it lacks soe bits | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:04:19] <josb> some | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:04:33] <josb> and it appears to run the CA on a different port | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:04:40] <josb> brb | ||
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| [2008/04/16 08:34:33] * josb is back | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:42:51] <jamesturnbull> josb: I think mccune wrote the nginx one - ping him - he might know if something was missing | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:43:44] <josb> jamesturnbull: Okay. I'm looking into switching to Apache now, btw, as it looks like he's running the Puppet CA on a different port which I cannot do. | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:43:44] <Demosthenes> urg, all the OSS MQ projects i've seen are built on or require Java... who in their right mind... | ||
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| [2008/04/16 08:44:53] <jamesturnbull> josb: from memory he is - I did the testing and documentation for that solution and that seems to gel with my memory | ||
| [2008/04/16 08:45:39] <josb> jamesturnbull: that's a no-go in my situation, at lest for now, because of acl changes that would be needed | ||
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| [2008/04/16 09:03:48] <josb> jamesturnbull: Il ping mccune if I see him - he doesn't appear to be online | ||
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| [2008/04/16 09:04:19] <josb> jamesturnbull: does look like the apache setup work, so I'll use that instead | ||
| [2008/04/16 09:04:34] <josb> jamesturnbull: thanks for your help, as always. | ||
| [2008/04/16 09:04:44] <jshare> do case statements not accept multiple values in 0.22.1 ? | ||
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| [2008/04/16 09:05:41] <jshare> http://pastie.caboo.se/181397 <-- always alerts with "second" even though $othermadeupvariable is not defined | ||
| [2008/04/16 09:06:19] <jshare> when i only had "fakevalue" in the case statement, it would do the default action | ||
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| [2008/04/16 09:32:01] <kposs> I am trying to assign an array of urls to a variable for templating and keep getting the error: 'urls'; expected '}' | ||
| [2008/04/16 09:32:34] <kposs> in the file I do have a $ infront of urls to show that it is a variable | ||
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| [2008/04/16 09:34:48] <sigmonsays> kposs, you don't need the $ | ||
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| [2008/04/16 09:36:36] <kposs> sigmonsays: how does puppet know it is a variable then? | ||
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| [2008/04/16 09:37:06] <kposs> sigmonsays: either way I just got a different error, can you not assign variables inside the file resource? | ||
| [2008/04/16 09:38:18] <fujin> kposs: paste | ||
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| [2008/04/16 09:42:28] <kposs> fujin: http://pastie.caboo.se/181422 | ||
| [2008/04/16 09:43:29] <fujin> require => | ||
| [2008/04/16 09:43:54] <kposs> suck sorry guys | ||
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| [2008/04/16 10:46:56] <fastjay> i rewwrote the perl script from ticket #1188 | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:46:58] <gepetto_> fastjay: #1188 is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1188 "'puppetwhen' - list when puppet was last successfully run for each node" | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:46:58] <fastjay> in ruby | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:47:10] @ Quit: shake-n-bake: | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:49:20] <fujin> lool | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:49:21] <fujin> cool | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:49:21] <fujin> ! | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:50:54] <fujin> fastjay: attach it to the ticket? | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:51:27] <fastjay> will do | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:51:35] <fastjay> i just need add one line to it and shove it back | ||
| [2008/04/16 10:51:51] <fastjay> brb.. need to move shitz | ||
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| [2008/04/16 11:32:39] <thecat> "puppetlast"? | ||
| [2008/04/16 11:34:07] <fujin> ? | ||
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| [2008/04/16 11:35:35] <thecat> as an alternative name to "puppetwhen" | ||
| [2008/04/16 11:36:58] <thecat> I see a pretty even splay out for 60 minutes when I run that script | ||
| [2008/04/16 11:37:01] <thecat> what do other people see? | ||
| [2008/04/16 11:37:19] <thecat> I was expecting a splay out of 30m (I thought that was the default settings) | ||
| [2008/04/16 11:37:20] <thecat> -s | ||
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| [2008/04/16 12:08:19] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Changeset [4640a3da925387fd2bf88b70f0b37c482926d8b8]: Fixing an integration test of the rest terminu... @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/changeset/4640a3da925387fd2bf88b70f0b37c482926d8b8 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 13:15:45] <waawaamilk> did puppet 0.20.1 not have 'bindaddress' for the puppetmaster? | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:16:54] <plathrop> waawaamilk: Quite possibly. Why on earth are you using that old of a version? | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:17:00] <waawaamilk> it's what's in etch | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:18:02] <shadoi> pin it from lenny (and ruby) from lenny | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:18:23] <waawaamilk> heh. I don't have a problem with using the one in etch, if it works | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:18:25] <shadoi> and (here) is some, more, useless punctuation. | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:18:54] <waawaamilk> I'm building a debian package that, when you installs it sets up and configures vservers for etch, including using puppet to control them | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:18:55] <shadoi> waawaamilk: the thing is, most of the documentation is quite different now. | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:19:34] <shadoi> and there are SO many bugs that have been fixed, features added between 0.20.x and 0.24.4 it's not even funny. | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:19:56] <waawaamilk> heh | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:20:07] <plathrop> waawaamilk: I *highly* recommend using the "unstable" package | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:20:08] <waawaamilk> I'm only stuck on this one thing now - 'hostname was not match with the server certificate' | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:20:22] <shadoi> waawaamilk: a bug that was fixed. :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:20:30] <waawaamilk> o_rly? | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:20:34] <waawaamilk> hmm | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:20:38] <shadoi> trust us, upgrade. | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:20:49] * waawaamilk looks at the zombies approaching | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:20:52] <waawaamilk> ok ok! | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:20:55] <shadoi> :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:21:49] <waawaamilk> so... does that mean the one in etch is actually completely broken? | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:22:17] <shadoi> nah, but you'd have to go through all the bugs to figure out what's going on | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:23:19] <waawaamilk> le-sigh | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:23:25] <waawaamilk> need backport | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:23:51] <plathrop> waawaamilk: There are good instructions for pinning on the puppet wiki | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:24:17] * waawaamilk looks | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:26:10] <waawaamilk> oh good, it's a "stated goal" that it will work | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:26:33] <plathrop> It does. | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:26:36] <plathrop> It works well | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:27:20] <waawaamilk> hmm | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:27:26] <waawaamilk> there should be a link from | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:27:43] <waawaamilk> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetDebian | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:27:44] <waawaamilk> to | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:27:49] <waawaamilk> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/DebianUnstablePackages | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:27:54] <waawaamilk> or have I missed it? | ||
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| [2008/04/16 13:28:53] <plathrop> waawaamilk: Feel free to fix anything in the wiki that you think needs fixing. | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:29:13] <waawaamilk> k | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:30:10] <waawaamilk> .. and pin ruby from unstable too? | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:30:28] <shadoi> I'll defer to plathrop | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:30:57] <plathrop> waawaamilk: I didn't. Other folks have had good luck with doing that. | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:31:09] <waawaamilk> 6/halfdozen then? | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:31:29] <plathrop> Probably. Just to sanity check, what ruby version does etch come with again? | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:31:49] <waawaamilk> 1.8.5 | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:32:01] <waawaamilk> whoa | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:32:03] <waawaamilk> apt got angry | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:32:10] <waawaamilk> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:32:17] <waawaamilk> I think I need that apt caching config thing | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:33:11] <plathrop> waawaamilk: Just google the error, there's a fix for it. It doesn't happen to every system, for some reason | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:33:23] <plathrop> 1.8.5 is good. | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:33:29] <plathrop> for ruby | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:33:31] <waawaamilk> yeah fixed it | ||
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| [2008/04/16 13:36:35] <waawaamilk> gruble | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:37:02] <waawaamilk> something something Package puppetmaster is not available, but is referred to by another package | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:43:02] <waawaamilk> turns out it didn't like that I had etch puppet installed | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:44:52] <fastjay> hi kids | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:48:29] * waawaamilk poked the wikipage | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:48:49] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Puppet Debian edited by nigel @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetDebian | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:55:55] <waawaamilk> so what's the best way to regenerate the host ssl certificate? | ||
| [2008/04/16 13:59:05] <fujin> puppetca --generate <hostname> | ||
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| [2008/04/16 13:59:31] <waawaamilk> k | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:05:07] <waawaamilk> gah | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:06:51] <plathrop> waawaamilk: gah? | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:07:17] <waawaamilk> the puppet is saying 'cert request does not match existinc cert, run puppetca --clean [hostname]' | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:07:25] <waawaamilk> running that command on the host says there's no cert to clean | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:07:42] <fujin> you have to clean it fully | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:08:25] <waawaamilk> the process for that is? | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:08:54] <plathrop> waawaamilk: You have to run that on the puppetmaster | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:08:56] <waawaamilk> my apologies if there's something I should be reading | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:08:59] <waawaamilk> plathrop: yeah I did | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:09:20] <plathrop> waawaamilk: Then blow away the certs on the client - rm -rf /var/lib/puppet/ssl | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:09:36] <waawaamilk> there isn't even a ssl directory! | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:09:47] * waawaamilk mkdirs | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:10:06] <waawaamilk> nope that hasn't helped | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:10:12] <plathrop> waawaamilk: You shouldn't have to mkdir it. Puppet creates it automagically. There is something else wrong | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:10:28] <waawaamilk> oh | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:10:30] <plathrop> waawaamilk: Do you have a lot of working clients or are you setting up for the first time? | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:10:37] <waawaamilk> I think I know what it is | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:10:46] <waawaamilk> the puppet I'm installing in the vservers is the old etch one ;) | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:11:05] <waawaamilk> I have one system where I have many clients set up fine | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:11:11] <plathrop> waawaamilk: Yeah, for big version differences that could be the problem. | ||
| [2008/04/16 14:11:12] <waawaamilk> now I'm trying to automate the process | ||
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| [2008/04/16 14:39:10] <waawaamilk> hmm | ||
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| [2008/04/16 14:43:04] <plathrop> night | ||
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| [2008/04/16 15:15:42] <waawaamilk> hmm | ||
| [2008/04/16 15:15:46] <waawaamilk> progress has been made | ||
| [2008/04/16 15:16:03] <waawaamilk> now it's winging about 'invalid tag autovserver/setup.pp' | ||
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| [2008/04/16 15:16:16] <waawaamilk> a file that definitely exists | ||
| [2008/04/16 15:16:35] <waawaamilk> oh.. probably want import rather than include | ||
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| [2008/04/16 15:32:45] <waawaamilk> ehehehe | ||
| [2008/04/16 15:32:48] <waawaamilk> it WORKS | ||
| [2008/04/16 15:33:37] <waawaamilk> install debian package -> network interface set up, puppetmaster installed and configured, scripts made available | ||
| [2008/04/16 15:33:59] <waawaamilk> run script -> builds vserver, automatically starts listening to the puppetmaster | ||
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| [2008/04/16 17:18:57] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Stable Platforms edited by mcbride @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/StablePlatforms | ||
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| [2008/04/16 18:06:23] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Ticket #1191 (defect created): [PATCH] portorigin_glob support in ports provider @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1191 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 19:02:18] <tim|macbook> hm... has anything been changed to the notify framework? | ||
| [2008/04/16 19:02:39] <tim|macbook> we have a Exec["reload-apache2"] but when i notify it, it doesn't seem to... well... reload apache2? | ||
| [2008/04/16 19:02:42] <tim|macbook> working in 0.23 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 19:30:14] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Ticket #1192 (enhancement created): "notify" should allow for "undef" @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1192 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 20:34:23] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Ticket #1193 (defect created): Resource types don't accept created_at @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1193 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 20:44:41] <jamesturnbull> tim|macbook: nothing has changed in that area as far as I am aware but some serious refactoring happened in 0.24.x ... | ||
| [2008/04/16 20:45:20] <jamesturnbull> tim|macbook: I'd pastie the problem and see if lak or other 0.24.x adopters can shed light | ||
| [2008/04/16 20:45:30] <tim|macbook> made it into a ticket :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 20:45:33] <tim|macbook> ##1192 | ||
| [2008/04/16 20:45:34] <gepetto_> tim|macbook: #1192 is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1192 ""notify" should allow for "undef"" | ||
| [2008/04/16 20:46:11] <tim|macbook> which is actually a cleaner solution to my problem, imho | ||
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| [2008/04/16 20:46:51] <tim|macbook> i first wanted to do a notify from the instantiated definition (is that a correct term? instantiated?), but in retrospect, having it part of the definition is much cleaner | ||
| [2008/04/16 20:48:02] <tim|macbook> and most likely quite inevitable | ||
| [2008/04/16 20:48:11] <tim|macbook> since definitions can be quite large | ||
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| [2008/04/16 21:20:43] <tim|macbook> immerda here? | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:21:38] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Ticket #1192 (enhancement closed): "notify" should allow for "undef" @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1192#comment:1 | ||
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| [2008/04/16 21:23:19] <trombik_> we will have a tech session in Tokyo at the end of this month | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:23:54] <trombik_> the main topic will be creating portable modules | ||
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| [2008/04/16 21:24:31] <trombik_> if you happen to be around Tokyo, let me know | ||
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| [2008/04/16 21:26:21] <trombik_> and FYI, lucie, a cluster management system uses puppet as backend | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:26:34] <trombik_> http://lucie.is.titech.ac.jp/trac/lucie/wiki (Japanese only) | ||
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| [2008/04/16 21:35:23] <duritong> tim|macbook: ping | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:35:33] <tim|macbook> pong | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:35:47] <duritong> you asked for me | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:35:56] <tim|macbook> ah, you're immerda :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:36:04] <waawaamilk> is it normal to have to restart the puppetmaster after adding a new file with a new node definition in it? | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:36:36] <fsweetser> if the new file is picked up by a fileglob, yes | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:36:39] <tim|macbook> well, don't want to nag, but i don't get the wontfix of the ticket closure in #1192, since Luke said in the email in the thread you pointed at: | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:36:41] <gepetto_> tim|macbook: well: #1192 is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1192 ""notify" should allow for "undef"" | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:36:49] <waawaamilk> fsweetser: ah, yes that is the case | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:36:52] <waawaamilk> good to know, thanks | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:36:54] <tim|macbook> "all defined types automatically support all | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:36:54] <tim|macbook> metaparameters." | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:37:38] <tim|macbook> ugh, i'm expressing myself incorrectly... what i meant to ask was, since luke said that, and i didn't get that facility by default, should that be a bugreport | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:37:43] <duritong> well actually I just tried to help a bit with the tickets and I saw the problem of the ticket the same problem I had earlier | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:37:43] <tim|macbook> there, that sounds much more friendly | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:38:29] <tim|macbook> you solved it with the if statement? | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:38:45] <duritong> yeah duritong=Peter Meier | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:39:25] <tim|macbook> hm... isn't it at least unexpected behaviour, if the definition doesnt automagically have a notify, then? | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:40:04] <duritong> hmm well actually I think this are 2 different problems | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:40:20] * tim|macbook doesn't like the if solution (although you make it look very clean, by modifying the existing instance, didn't know it could work that way, thought the override would only work if you inherit) | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:40:21] <duritong> 1 is that definitions automagically have notify, require etc. | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:40:39] <duritong> 2 is that notify can't be undef | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:41:06] <duritong> 1 was documented after my mail | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:41:46] <duritong> 2 is more a language structure issue and I assume that in Puppet's inside undef is not equal with absent | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:42:11] <duritong> I agree with you that the behaviour isn't that obvious | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:42:39] <tim|macbook> ok, that's actually what i meant to ask, if you'd agree with it being unexpected behaviour | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:42:44] <duritong> but actually the bug was imho asking for a solution of his problem, which is the way I did it | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:42:48] * tim|macbook has trouble expressing himself today, sorry about that | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:43:11] * duritong 's first language isn't english, so always having that problem :P | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:43:34] <tim|macbook> yeah, didn't want to question the fact that you closed it with wontfix, wanted to know if you agreed with the fact that there's something fishy (or at least unexpected) going on | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:44:05] * tim|macbook 's first language isn't english either, so i know the feeling ;-) | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:44:35] <duritong> well actually I was really unsure if I should close it or not, however I tried to help a bit with all the tickets and this one was a bit obvious for me. So I took the chance to help, however I still might be wrong | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:44:58] <duritong> yeah I felt it as well unexptected | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:45:23] <duritong> closing tickets is always quite a hard decision | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:45:41] <duritong> and often questionable ;) | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:46:47] <tim|macbook> glad to clear it up in both our non-first languages ;-) (ich glaube das deutsch sprechen in dieses Channel nicht erlaubt ist ;-)) | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:47:39] <duritong> hehe keine ahnung wer das alles verstehen würde | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:50:35] <tim|macbook> vieleicht mehr leute, aber sicher nicht allen (entschuldigung, mein deutsche Fallen sind slecht, always takes me a while to remember them, and still have them wrong!) | ||
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| [2008/04/16 21:52:27] <duritong> well at least davids would do so, but we're anyway always talking english together ;) | ||
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| [2008/04/16 21:53:22] <tim|macbook> true that, even when he was here to visit we spoke english (probably because my german sucks too much ;-)) | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:53:34] <duritong> hehe | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:57:51] <stevil> man this puppet modules look sweet :-) | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:58:42] <duritong> which? | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:58:54] <stevil> s/this/these | ||
| [2008/04/16 21:58:57] <stevil> typo :-) | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:00:27] <duritong> you mean the one I/we published? | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:00:54] <stevil> no i just ment the modules functionality in puppet actually | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:01:08] <duritong> ahhh :P | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:01:27] * duritong another demo of misunderstanding :P | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:03:09] <hX8> yeah misunderstanding ;) I am puzzled by storeconfigs. I only get err: Could not call: Mysql::Error: Table 'puppet.hosts' doesn't exist: errors :( The tables are not created somehow. Any hints ? | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:03:51] <hX8> gems are installed I can create tables in the db itself.. | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:04:27] <duritong> hX8: actually they should be autocreated, do you have any error messages on starting up puppetmaster that it can't connect to the db? | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:04:59] <hX8> nope nothing it says absolute nothing; i only get a message if puppetd connects with the master. | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:06:23] <duritong> what kind of backend do you use? and the db is there? (just to be sure) | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:06:47] <hX8> mysql and yes I can login as user puppet do a CREATE TABLE command add stuff in there and remove it. | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:07:13] <hX8> also tried sqlite; doesn't matter I get the same sort of error message.. | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:08:35] <duritong> hmm ok then I actually run out of ideas | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:09:58] <hX8> same here ;) I think its a aruby thing but I have no clue where to look/how to debug since I have ruby--; skillz :) | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:10:21] <hX8> maybe a good time to learn it ;) | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:11:40] <duritong> it might be more a rails thing (so still ruby) as the db stuff is done with rails | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:12:33] <hX8> yeah that was actually what I ment, rails and maybe as wel the mysql gem... | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:12:52] <hX8> can the db be generated by hand ? | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:22:44] <duritong> I think you might find somewehere a schema file | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:23:30] <thom> seems like a bad idea. do you have the db* settings in your [puppetmasterd] block? | ||
| [2008/04/16 22:27:07] <hX8> thom: yes they are in | ||
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| [2008/04/16 22:39:49] <hX8> ok; right... I appearently had to take down the server for some reason. After that and even if I saw the puppet user in the processlist before it created the tables. | ||
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| [2008/04/16 23:09:12] <stevil> duritong: so you created a bunch of modules i now presume ? :-) | ||
| [2008/04/16 23:12:03] <duritong> well actually I'm using a lot of DavidS modules, as well adapted them to different distros | ||
| [2008/04/16 23:12:11] <duritong> and as well did some new modules | ||
| [2008/04/16 23:12:35] <duritong> and I published them as well on a public git-repo like DavidS' | ||
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| [2008/04/16 23:14:49] <stevil> duritong: url ? | ||
| [2008/04/16 23:16:56] <duritong> git.puppet.immerda.ch | ||
| [2008/04/16 23:19:04] <duritong> but the line seems to have some problems | ||
| [2008/04/16 23:20:47] <duritong> actually it looks like the provider is having problems :-/ | ||
| [2008/04/16 23:21:15] <duritong> well a peer before the provider as mtr shows | ||
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