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| [2008/04/14 07:50:32] <waawaamilk> hi. I have a script here that Ned wrote and I hacked on called 'puppetwhen', it lists for each node when puppet last ran, so you can see quickly how long a node has to wait and whether some are broken. Is anyone interested in accepting it back upstream? | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:50:38] <waawaamilk> example output: http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/23c6be | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:51:23] <Volcane> how does it know when last a run was? | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:51:51] <waawaamilk> it looks in the yaml files for the nodes | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:52:13] <Volcane> yeah, thats a method discussed on the list too recently | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:52:27] <Volcane> so you're script sshes to every host and checks it? | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:52:30] <waawaamilk> no | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:52:44] <waawaamilk> checks them in /var/lib/puppet/yaml/facts (which is a debian location) | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:52:46] <Volcane> thats pretty much how everyone does monitoring on their hosts, via nagios or whatever, age of the file | ||
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| [2008/04/14 07:53:30] <Volcane> ah right ok | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:53:38] * Volcane hasnt seen those before | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:53:57] <waawaamilk> the source is dead short | ||
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| [2008/04/14 07:54:05] <jamesturnbull> waawaamilk: the best way is to log a ticket and attach it | ||
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| [2008/04/14 07:54:11] <waawaamilk> http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/3ce758 | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:54:26] <waawaamilk> jamesturnbull: ok, I will do that (if people think it's worthy!) | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:55:01] <jamesturnbull> waawaamilk: well it's generally Luke's call what he puts in the "contrib" section | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:55:15] <waawaamilk> alright | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:55:20] * waawaamilk makes ticket | ||
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| [2008/04/14 07:56:42] <jamesturnbull> waawaamilk: looking at the code I would redo in Puppet and query puppet's configuration to find the right directory rather than hardcoding | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:56:52] <jamesturnbull> waawaamilk: "redo in Ruby" | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:56:57] <waawaamilk> yep | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:57:10] <waawaamilk> heh, consider it 'proof of concept' if you like | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:57:19] <jamesturnbull> lak: evening | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:57:26] <lak> hullo | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:57:34] <lak> i saw the changes you made to the wiki, great job | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:57:46] <lak> i didn't go through all of them, but seems like you did a ton of house-cleaning | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:57:57] <jamesturnbull> lak: excuse the mad flurry of wiki changes - I saw an FAQ update I didn't like a things snow-balled from there | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:58:06] <lak> heh | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:58:26] <jamesturnbull> lak: but Trac's wiki is .... well broken and k-f*cked | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:58:38] <lak> yeah, not that great of a wiki | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:58:47] <lak> i think you can do heirarchy, tho -- just add a slash in there | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:58:58] <jamesturnbull> lak: yeah worked that out | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:59:14] <jamesturnbull> lak: will move all recipes into a hierarchy at some point | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:59:26] <Volcane> jamesturnbull: just dont change urls you put in the book :P | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:59:30] <lak> cool | ||
| [2008/04/14 07:59:46] <lak> jamesturnbull: and i can give you access to rewrites in the apache config if you want | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:00:34] <jamesturnbull> lak: oh thanks - mod_rewrite - my favourite thing after ... well vists to the dentist :) | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:00:42] <lak> heh | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:00:47] <lak> it is teh awesome | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:01:16] <jamesturnbull> lak: I spent last night getting a drupal instance to play nice with rewrite | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:01:43] * jamesturnbull hammers .htaccess into shape - rewrite correctly escaping = signs you bastard... | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:01:44] <lak> so you're all up on it, then :) | ||
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| [2008/04/14 08:02:17] <jamesturnbull> Volcane: I will try :) | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:02:38] <jamesturnbull> lak: oh and saw the merge of rick's REST stuff | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:02:42] <Volcane> am about 1/2 way through it | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:02:44] <jamesturnbull> lak: big changes | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:02:55] <lak> well, kind of; it's actually all parallel at this point | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:03:10] <lak> his work didn't include xmlrpc support alongside rest, nor ssl in webrick, so i have to add those | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:03:19] <lak> plus i need some ability for formats other than yaml | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:03:41] <jamesturnbull> lak: that'd be nice | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:03:49] <waawaamilk> jamesturnbull: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1188 ^_^ | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:03:57] <jamesturnbull> lak: I tried to hack Marshall in a while back without success | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:06:18] <lak> it shouldn't even require much hacking; just switch the client to specify marshal | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:06:37] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Ticket #1188 (enhancement created): 'puppetwhen' - list when puppet was last successfully run for ea... @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1188 | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:06:53] <lak> ok, i've got a date with some zombies with creatures on their heads in half-life 2 | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:06:55] <lak> laters all | ||
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| [2008/04/14 08:59:03] <jamesturnbull> shadoi: ping - re puppetshow show ticket umm #12 I think... is there a fix? | ||
| [2008/04/14 08:59:04] <gepetto_> jamesturnbull: shadoi: #12 is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/12 "Support processes in addition to services" | ||
| [2008/04/14 09:01:19] <shadoi> jamesturnbull: I don't think that even applies to the current codebase | ||
| [2008/04/14 09:01:47] <jamesturnbull> shadoi: ah sorry - gepetto_ was a little quick off the mark - I meant in the puppetshow trac | ||
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| [2008/04/14 09:02:54] @ Topic is "0.24.4 is out: http://snurl.com/22lnx | Please see http://snurl.com/1udr1 for channel guidelines | See http://snurl.com/1udr3 about SSL issues" | ||
| [2008/04/14 09:02:54] @ Topic set by lak on Wed Mar 26 07:52:43 +1100 2008 | ||
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| [2008/04/14 09:12:55] <shadoi> jamesturnbull: workaround, downgrade to ruby 1.8.6-111, fix: upgrade puppetshow to support hobo 0.7.4 | ||
| [2008/04/14 09:13:15] <shadoi> I want to do the fix, but I am strapped for time. | ||
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| [2008/04/14 11:44:03] <johnf> is anyone using the shorewall module? | ||
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| [2008/04/14 11:54:52] <hacim> what is the rundir for? | ||
| [2008/04/14 11:55:49] <hacim> supposedly where the PID files are kept, but they are being kept in vardir | ||
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| [2008/04/14 12:00:49] <hacim> err, it does if you dont set it twice in the conf heh | ||
| [2008/04/14 12:05:54] * waawaamilk just realised each ruby process for each puppet is taking 31M of ram | ||
| [2008/04/14 12:06:08] <waawaamilk> which is expensive if you're using puppet to administer vservers, heh | ||
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| [2008/04/14 12:14:36] <bda> Or Solaris zones. :) | ||
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| [2008/04/14 12:44:00] <shadoi> waawaamilk: you can run "puppetd --onetime" via cron if keeping it running is an issue | ||
| [2008/04/14 12:44:59] <waawaamilk> hehe, maybe I can use puppet to make the appropriate change :) | ||
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| [2008/04/14 12:47:48] <shadoi> waawaamilk: of course :) | ||
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| [2008/04/14 13:48:22] <randybias> know where any updated debian etch puppet debs are? 24.4 preferably. 64-bit if it matters.... | ||
| [2008/04/14 13:48:40] * waawaamilk might | ||
| [2008/04/14 13:48:43] * waawaamilk looks | ||
| [2008/04/14 13:49:22] <waawaamilk> I found 24.1... | ||
| [2008/04/14 13:50:16] <johnf> randybias: have you tried using the debs straight out of sid? | ||
| [2008/04/14 13:50:26] <johnf> 64 bit doesn't matter since the packages aren't arch specific | ||
| [2008/04/14 13:51:54] <randybias> johnf: I am embarrassingly still relatively unknowledgeable about Debian. It's the very last major flavor of Linux I started using. | ||
| [2008/04/14 13:51:59] <randybias> I'll research sid | ||
| [2008/04/14 13:56:00] <shadoi> randybias: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/puppet/ | ||
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| [2008/04/14 14:08:07] <randybias> shadoi: ya, thanks, that's what I wound up using | ||
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| [2008/04/14 17:25:34] <SMP> #1177 | ||
| [2008/04/14 17:25:36] <gepetto> SMP: #1177 is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1177 "One cannot test within a template for whether a variable or fact is defined" | ||
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| [2008/04/14 17:51:36] <Innocenti> ssh://systrac.startpda.net/home/ramon/gentoo.bare | ||
| [2008/04/14 17:51:47] <Innocenti> oops sorry wrong window | ||
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| [2008/04/14 17:59:34] <stevil> hi all, i'm following the puppet book, but when i'm launching puppetmasterd and puppetd it complains about not finding an entry for the puppetd host, now i've read in the documentation that i just need to create a "catchall" config in puppetmater.conf file, however this is no where mentioned in the book, is that because they are using an somewhat older puppet version? | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:01:48] <chillitom> stevil, you can just make a node called default | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:03:58] <stevil> chillitom: but what this changed in the last version perhaps, because the book i'm reading from uses 0.23.0 and i'm using 0.23.2 | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:07:05] <jamesturnbull> stevil: the book should be compat. pretty much to 0.24.4 | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:07:24] <jamesturnbull> stevil: and you should be usng a puppet.conf - individual configuration files are deprecated | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:07:47] <stevil> jamesturnbull: well i haven't made a configuration file yet | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:08:12] <jamesturnbull> stevil: there should have been one installed when you installed? | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:08:25] <stevil> jamesturnbull: just created a site.pp and launched the pupetmasterd --verbose | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:09:07] <jamesturnbull> stevil: what platform? | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:09:19] <jamesturnbull> stevil: pastie the output you gt | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:09:41] <jamesturnbull> stevil: brb - reboot | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:09:58] <stevil> jamesturnbull: Linux, i compiled from source though, i'm looking at the book and don't see it mentioning copyng of default config files, mkdir -p /etc/pupet/manifests also indicates that i don't need a config file somewhere | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:17:10] <stevil> jamesturnbull: page 18-19 "installing from source" just states: ruby install.rb, puppet --version and next "the puppet server and client are now both installed, and you can refer to the sections 'Configuring puppetmasterd' or 'configuring puppetd' for configuration instructions." | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:20:17] <stevil> jamesturnbull: but that's on page 33-38 while on pages 23-28 there is a "Getting started with puppet" | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:21:11] <jamesturnbull> stevil: the install creates puppet.conf usually in /etc/puppet | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:21:19] <jamesturnbull> stevil: is it not there? | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:22:13] <stevil> jamesturnbull: nope, the /etc/puppet directory doesn't even exist, and the "-p" flag to mkdir also gives me the impression that it shouldn't be there yet | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:22:26] <stevil> page 24 | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:24:16] <jamesturnbull> stevil: what's the erro you're getting? because you shouldn't need a puppet.conf | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:25:02] <stevil> jamesturnbull: on the puppetmaster server i get this "err: Could not find puppet1.example.int with names puppet1.example.int, puppet1" | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:25:34] <jamesturnbull> stevil: that's not puppet.conf | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:25:42] <jamesturnbull> stevil: that's site.pp | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:25:45] <stevil> jamesturnbull: and on the client i get: err: Could not retrieve configuration: Could not find puppet1.example.int with names puppet1.example.int, puppet1 | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:27:38] <jamesturnbull> stevil: it's a compat. problem I think - I can't remember when the --no-nodes option was deprecated | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:27:46] <jamesturnbull> stevil: try puppetmasterd --no-nodes --verbose | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:28:24] <stevil> jamesturnbull: "/usr/bin/puppetmasterd: unrecognized option `--no-nodes'" | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:29:07] <stevil> ah --nonodes | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:29:32] <stevil> jamesturnbull: yep that works man! thanks | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:30:42] <jamesturnbull> stevil: sorry - the example was written for 0.24 and later - sorry wanted it to be as up-to-date as possible - I'll add an errata | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:30:55] <stevil> jamesturnbull: i already checked for a "errata" on apress.com before i went in here btw :-) | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:31:15] <stevil> jamesturnbull: cool, also the --no-deamonize doesn't work anymore | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:37:46] <stevil> jamesturnbull: so things like "Boolean configuration options are specified on the command line using an on/off model like so: puppetd --trace puppetd --no-strace" is only valid for 0.24 and later? | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:38:04] <stevil> s/strace/trace | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:39:19] <jamesturnbull> stevil: no there are some inconsistent uses of dashes | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:41:16] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Puppet Book Errata edited by jamtur01 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetBookErrata | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:41:16] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Puppet Book Errata edited by jamtur01 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetBookErrata | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:41:33] <jamesturnbull> stevil: the --no-daemonize only works on 0.24 and later also | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:42:22] <stevil> jamesturnbull: ah at the reductivelabs website i was looking at apress website | ||
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| [2008/04/14 18:46:06] <jamesturnbull> stevil: I submit it to both but since I can write to the wiki it means it's up faster | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:46:39] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Puppet Book Errata edited by jamtur01 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetBookErrata | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:53:17] <f3ew> Hmmmm | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:53:25] <f3ew> gepetto trequire | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:53:27] <f3ew> gepetto require | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:54:09] <jamesturnbull> f3ew: what are you after? | ||
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| [2008/04/14 18:59:38] <f3ew> jamesturnbull, dependencies | ||
| [2008/04/14 18:59:44] * f3ew found before | ||
| [2008/04/14 19:00:38] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: help | ||
| [2008/04/14 19:00:38] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: help topics: 6 core modules: auth, basics, config, httputil, remote, userdata; 5 plugins: rss, seen, shortenurls, stats, tracurls (help <topic> for more info) | ||
| [2008/04/14 19:01:07] <f3ew> Puppet isn't creating directories recursively, so using an exec | ||
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| [2008/04/14 23:37:14] <keithlard> hey hey! | ||
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| [2008/04/14 23:50:59] <martha> lak: hi luke | ||
| [2008/04/14 23:51:04] <lak> hi | ||
| [2008/04/14 23:51:15] <martha> you wanted to talk to about the node name problem? | ||
| [2008/04/14 23:52:08] <keithlard> anyone looking for a puppet job in london? http://www.citysafe.org/careers | ||
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| [2008/04/14 23:56:54] <chillitom> keithlard, got one thanks | ||
| [2008/04/14 23:57:19] <keithlard> really who do you work for? | ||
| [2008/04/14 23:57:46] <chillitom> a start up |
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