Saturday, 2008-04-05

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[2008/04/05 01:46:08] <stick> shenson: we were discussing yesterday that 0.24.4 has an updated emacs mode
[2008/04/05 01:46:25] <shenson> stick, nice, I'll have to look
[2008/04/05 01:46:39] <shenson> the 0.23.2 one is seriously lacking
[2008/04/05 01:47:45] <shenson> I kinda need to restart emacs anyway
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[2008/04/05 02:28:41] <hacim> shenson: you dont need to restart emacs to load a new mode :)
[2008/04/05 02:29:00] <shenson> I know, but it needed it anyway
[2008/04/05 02:29:26] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Ticket #1177 (enhancement created): One cannot test within a template for whether a variable or fact... @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/ticket/1177
[2008/04/05 02:37:03] <benp-> whoa, emacs users
[2008/04/05 02:39:25] <growler_> scary
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[2008/04/05 02:57:33] <stick> anyone seen problems creating a directory that has an empty source defined for it
[2008/04/05 03:00:10] <posix^> I 'puppetmasterd --reports store' and 'puppetd --report', but nothing shows up in /etc/puppet/reports ... shouldn't this dump some base yaml regardless of the manifest? what have I missed?
[2008/04/05 03:00:42] <posix^> feel free to beat me senseless with the cluestick
[2008/04/05 03:02:25] <benp-> i've never had that working either, but tagmail reports work well
[2008/04/05 03:03:41] <hacim> benp-: emacs rules! vi sucks, textmate is for wannabe web2.0 zombies!!! lets have an editor war
[2008/04/05 03:03:44] <hacim> :)
[2008/04/05 03:04:03] <posix^> benp-: doh :/
[2008/04/05 03:04:06] <benp-> heh
[2008/04/05 03:04:29] <posix^> I just want some kind of central conformation from each host that 'something' occurred..
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[2008/04/05 03:15:36] <muerr> Hmm.
[2008/04/05 03:15:50] <muerr> What's the possibility of adding SELinux context to the file resource type?
[2008/04/05 03:16:04] <muerr> as in, functionality of 'chcon'
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[2008/04/05 03:18:57] <cmoates> stick, you mean like file { "/path/to/dir": ensure => directory } ?
[2008/04/05 03:25:28] <morfoh> hmmm... I finally got the time to fiddle with nginx in front, but the node is spitting out an error message
[2008/04/05 03:25:33] <morfoh> err: Could not call puppetmaster.freshness: #<RuntimeError: HTTP-Error: 502 Bad Gateway>
[2008/04/05 03:25:40] <morfoh> any hints ?
[2008/04/05 03:26:42] <morfoh> I used the config provided in wiki/UsingMongrelNginx as a "base"
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[2008/04/05 03:31:22] <ckm> cmoates: something more like:
[2008/04/05 03:31:57] <hacim> morfoh: do you have puppetmaster running and listening on the ports that nginx is redirecting to?
[2008/04/05 03:32:05] <ckm> file { /tmp/foo: ensure => directory, purge => true, recurse => true, source => "puppet:///thisnohere" }
[2008/04/05 03:32:33] <morfoh> hacim: yes I started 2 puppetmasterd instances
[2008/04/05 03:33:15] <morfoh> one listening on 18140 and the other 18141
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[2008/04/05 03:50:13] <gileswwwrk> lo puppetiers
[2008/04/05 03:51:19] <gileswwwrk> http://pastie.caboo.se/175365
[2008/04/05 03:51:43] <gileswwwrk> I'm trying to only run exportfs -r when a new line has been added to the /etc/exports file
[2008/04/05 03:52:02] <gileswwwrk> I'm not using a template though for /etc/exports
[2008/04/05 03:52:16] <gileswwwrk> I'm just using a define to put a line in that file.
[2008/04/05 03:52:22] <gileswwwrk> any ideas?
[2008/04/05 03:52:37] <muer1> gileswwwrk: subscribe => File["exports"] ?
[2008/04/05 03:54:13] <gileswwwrk> as I understand it subscribe will only work if you've defined the file as part of your module
[2008/04/05 03:54:24] <gileswwwrk> rather than checking a file on the filesystem
[2008/04/05 03:54:38] <gileswwwrk> I don't know how it would actually know when it had changed
[2008/04/05 03:54:50] <muer1> You have, file { "exports": in that class.
[2008/04/05 03:55:23] <holoway> gileswwwrk: you can use the name of the define in the notify/subscribe
[2008/04/05 03:55:34] <holoway> so if you have add_my_exports_line { "foo": .. }
[2008/04/05 03:55:41] <holoway> you would have
[2008/04/05 03:55:53] <holoway> notify => Exec["mything"]
[2008/04/05 03:55:59] <muer1> http://pastie.caboo.se/175366
[2008/04/05 03:56:00] <holoway> in the add_my_exports_line resource def
[2008/04/05 03:56:09] <gileswwwrk> oh interesting holoway
[2008/04/05 03:56:22] <gileswwwrk> i would always rather use the line define rather than a template
[2008/04/05 03:57:52] <holoway> you can use any resource puppet understands in those notify/subscribe/etc meta attributes
[2008/04/05 03:58:01] <muer1> oh - missed this one: line { "_exports_entry_$title": - you could use subscribe => Line["_exports_entry_$title"]...
[2008/04/05 03:58:29] <holoway> think of a define as making a new puppet type, that just happens to be an aggregate of other types
[2008/04/05 03:58:40] <holoway> muer1: exactyl
[2008/04/05 03:58:44] <windowsrefund> I think of a define as a function
[2008/04/05 03:58:52] <windowsrefund> since functions accept args
[2008/04/05 03:58:59] <muer1> windowsrefund: sort of, a custom resource type is what i think of.
[2008/04/05 03:59:07] <windowsrefund> define is a poor word imho
[2008/04/05 03:59:07] <muer1> :)
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[2008/04/05 03:59:32] <windowsrefund> actually, I think of a class as a function as well :)
[2008/04/05 03:59:45] <windowsrefund> since it performs some unit of work
[2008/04/05 03:59:46] <windowsrefund> heh
[2008/04/05 03:59:46] <holoway> windowsrefund: it makes perfect sense when you think of it as a resource type definition
[2008/04/05 04:00:03] <holoway> windowsrefund: when I think that way, I start wanting the language to not be declarative
[2008/04/05 04:00:12] <gileswwwrk> http://pastie.caboo.se/175372
[2008/04/05 04:00:14] <holoway> and get frustrated that I don't have things like loops and friends
[2008/04/05 04:00:18] <holoway> :)
[2008/04/05 04:00:19] <gileswwwrk> thats my effort
[2008/04/05 04:00:21] <muer1> Mmmm loops
[2008/04/05 04:00:22] <windowsrefund> yea
[2008/04/05 04:00:30] <gileswwwrk> am I vaguely going in the right direction?
[2008/04/05 04:00:43] <holoway> if I let the langauge be about resource definition, then I stop thrashing against those constraints
[2008/04/05 04:00:47] <holoway> personally
[2008/04/05 04:01:25] <morfoh> hacim: everything is fine now... pound and nginx working
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[2008/04/05 04:01:39] <holoway> gileswwwrk: you don't ever call your definition?
[2008/04/05 04:02:12] <holoway> and you'll want to move the subscribe to a notify
[2008/04/05 04:02:18] <holoway> from within the exec
[2008/04/05 04:02:28] <holoway> and have your definition include the class that holds the exec resource
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[2008/04/05 04:03:34] <holoway> gileswwwrk: you've already go the notify, so get rid of the subscribe down below
[2008/04/05 04:03:37] <holoway> and you should be good
[2008/04/05 04:09:30] <stick> lak: ping
[2008/04/05 04:10:36] <lak> i'm around for a few mins
[2008/04/05 04:10:40] <gileswwwrk> ta holoway
[2008/04/05 04:11:28] <stick> lak: I just saw you email but I'm kinda confused on where to go from here, do I need to change my type so that it's exported rather than the file definition it contains
[2008/04/05 04:12:50] <lak> if the type isn't exported, then you should be fine
[2008/04/05 04:12:54] <lak> what version are you using?
[2008/04/05 04:13:38] <stick> 24.4
[2008/04/05 04:13:52] <stick> I'm not exporting the type just the file within
[2008/04/05 04:16:22] <lak> are you sure you don't already have an exported file with that title in the db?
[2008/04/05 04:17:14] <stick> which title would it be using, the service { "foo" title or what name => is set to?
[2008/04/05 04:17:48] <stick> b/c I would imagine the former is being duplicated but the latter shouldn't be
[2008/04/05 04:18:15] <lak> "foo" is the title, in service { "foo": ... }
[2008/04/05 04:18:46] <stick> ok, so it looks like I need to enforce uniqueness in the title as well as in the name
[2008/04/05 04:18:58] <lak> yeah
[2008/04/05 04:19:02] <lak> that's always the case
[2008/04/05 04:20:18] <stick> I guess since name gets set to title if you don't specify it I was equating them as the same thing
[2008/04/05 04:21:06] <lak> they default to the same thing, but they both have to be unique
[2008/04/05 04:21:11] <lak> think of resources as a big hash
[2008/04/05 04:21:24] <lak> a given resource can be retrieved by multiple keys -- e.g., aliases, name, title
[2008/04/05 04:21:37] <lak> but each of those different keys needs to refer to a unique resource
[2008/04/05 04:22:45] <stick> gotcha
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[2008/04/05 04:49:15] <Xteven> hi
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[2008/04/05 05:03:07] <zirpu> anyone have a recipe for managing apt-key key imports for local apt repositories?
[2008/04/05 05:03:11] <muer1> Does puppet create /var/run/puppet with permissions drwxrwxrwt ?
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[2008/04/05 05:03:29] <plathrop> zirpu: We rolled a debian package and ude Puppet to install that.
[2008/04/05 05:04:06] <zirpu> ok. but do you have to manualy install that package the 1st time?
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[2008/04/05 05:04:41] <plathrop> zirpu: Actually, I mis-spoke. We install the debian package alongside Puppet on first boot (with FAI/PXE)
[2008/04/05 05:04:52] <zirpu> ah. ok. that makes sense.
[2008/04/05 05:04:55] <plathrop> Then all our other custom packages work fine.
[2008/04/05 05:05:01] <hacim> zirpu: yeah I am doing that
[2008/04/05 05:05:44] <hacim> its pretty easy, just ship the key over with a file {}
[2008/04/05 05:05:49] <zirpu> Maybe I should work on the abstract problem of calling an Exec rule when a file is pulled from the fileserver. I.e. only call 'apt-key add' when the file has changed.
[2008/04/05 05:05:53] <hacim> then do:
[2008/04/05 05:05:53] <hacim> exec { "/usr/bin/apt-key add /etc/apt/backports.org.key":
[2008/04/05 05:05:54] <hacim> refreshonly => true,
[2008/04/05 05:05:54] <hacim> subscribe => File["/etc/apt/backports.org.key"],
[2008/04/05 05:05:54] <hacim> }
[2008/04/05 05:05:59] <zirpu> right. exactly! :-)
[2008/04/05 05:06:02] <hacim> zirpu: see above :)
[2008/04/05 05:06:07] <zirpu> thanks!
[2008/04/05 05:06:17] <hacim> that will only add the key (ie. do the exec), when that file has changed
[2008/04/05 05:06:29] <plathrop> hacim: That's awesome
[2008/04/05 05:06:40] <hacim> see the metaparameters in the type reference for information about how to notify, subscribe and otherwise do exactly what you are wanting
[2008/04/05 05:07:50] @ Quit: lak:
[2008/04/05 05:08:15] <hacim> plathrop: your nick reminds me of a character in gravity's rainbow
[2008/04/05 05:08:23] <hacim> slothrop
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[2008/04/05 05:10:00] <plathrop> hacim: I still haven't actually read it, despite many people telling me I ought to.
[2008/04/05 05:10:10] <plathrop> hacim: I read big books, but that one is particularly large
[2008/04/05 05:10:46] <hacim> its no finnegan's wake, but its close
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[2008/04/05 05:18:41] <eventi> how does one use a class defined define ?
[2008/04/05 05:18:56] <eventi> like require => Class::Define["name"]
[2008/04/05 05:20:13] <eventi> i know I've done it but I can't find an example
[2008/04/05 05:22:45] <hacim> eventi: dont you just need: require => Class["name"] ?
[2008/04/05 05:23:31] <eventi> I defined a class::define
[2008/04/05 05:23:43] <eventi> now I need to make sure it runs before a cron job
[2008/04/05 05:23:53] <hacim> isn't "define" a reserved word?
[2008/04/05 05:24:26] <eventi> just an example - it's actually webserevr::vhost
[2008/04/05 05:25:06] <hacim> oh ok, I dont know how to do that, but it wouldbe good to know
[2008/04/05 05:25:59] <Xteven> does puppet take care of configuration on installed packages ?
[2008/04/05 05:26:07] <Xteven> s/on/of/
[2008/04/05 05:26:20] <plathrop> Xteven: Yes, if you tell it to.
[2008/04/05 05:26:55] <Xteven> nice :)
[2008/04/05 05:36:17] <Binford> Anyone know what I set for git to use a proxy?
[2008/04/05 05:37:09] <hacim> just add the proxy port to the url?
[2008/04/05 05:41:31] <Binford> tried that " git clone git://git.black.co.at:8080/manifests manifests
[2008/04/05 05:41:52] <Binford> Still get "fata: unable to connect a soxcket (connection refused)
[2008/04/05 05:41:56] <Binford> *fatal
[2008/04/05 05:41:56] <hacim> err
[2008/04/05 05:42:13] <hacim> thats not right
[2008/04/05 05:42:41] <hacim> Binford: have you tried google "git proxy" ?
[2008/04/05 05:42:58] <Binford> I searched the git docs for the word proxy, let me try google
[2008/04/05 05:43:31] <hacim> also #git is probably more appropriate than #puppet
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[2008/04/05 05:55:15] <Binford> tru dat, but was trying to get he manifests referenced on the puppet wiki
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[2008/04/05 06:35:30] <eventi> anyone know hos to require a declare?
[2008/04/05 06:35:39] <eventi> s/how/how
[2008/04/05 06:36:01] <eventi> I hace a class called webwerver, and it has a declare called webwerver::vhost
[2008/04/05 06:36:23] <eventi> I need to require => Webserver::vhost
[2008/04/05 06:36:32] <eventi> but no dice
[2008/04/05 06:36:49] <plathrop> eventi: I think you mean "define" not "decalre", I don't think you can do it. As a workaround, require a resource within that vhost
[2008/04/05 06:37:06] * eventi slaps head
[2008/04/05 06:37:16] <eventi> define - knew that
[2008/04/05 06:37:30] <eventi> I actually need to make sure the define happened
[2008/04/05 06:37:57] <plathrop> eventi: Requiring a resource from within the define should do that.
[2008/04/05 06:38:02] <eventi> I did it at my last job, but i left that manifest behind
[2008/04/05 06:38:30] <plathrop> eventi: For example, say you have a file resource in your define that has a different name based on the vhost name
[2008/04/05 06:38:45] <plathrop> eventi: requiring that file ensures the define happened.
[2008/04/05 06:38:45] <eventi> plathrop - other way around - I have a cron that requires the define, and only that define
[2008/04/05 06:39:21] <plathrop> eventi: Why aren't you putting that cron within the define then?
[2008/04/05 06:40:17] <muerr> eventi: require => Webserver::Vhost["name_of_vhost"]
[2008/04/05 06:40:27] <muerr> have to capitalize the first word of both names in the defined type.
[2008/04/05 06:40:36] <eventi> because the define sets up virtual hosts, and only this cron needs this vhost
[2008/04/05 06:40:41] <eventi> thanks muerr
[2008/04/05 06:41:03] <plathrop> eventi: That makes sense
[2008/04/05 06:41:11] <plathrop> muerr: That's awesome. Didn't know that worked
[2008/04/05 06:41:36] <eventi> perfect thanks
[2008/04/05 06:42:17] <muerr> plathrop: :-)
[2008/04/05 06:42:56] <eventi> that's a PITA to explain :)
[2008/04/05 06:43:20] <eventi> any idea why the syntax would call for both caps?
[2008/04/05 06:43:35] <muerr> I don't recall.
[2008/04/05 06:43:39] <muerr> Thats what Luke told me though.
[2008/04/05 06:43:43] <muerr> Something with the namespacing.
[2008/04/05 06:44:11] <eventi> not intuitive
[2008/04/05 06:44:22] <eventi> I tried Class::define and class::Define
[2008/04/05 06:44:29] <eventi> not Class::Define
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[2008/04/05 06:46:02] <wwalker> http://rafb.net/p/R1xgns83.html this is weird. it's like ruby can't find puppet.rb. any idea why? centos5, ruby from centos, puppet and facter from reductivelabs. all via rpm
[2008/04/05 06:46:55] <eventi> from dluttter?
[2008/04/05 06:47:00] <eventi> 64bit centos?
[2008/04/05 06:47:45] <eventi> wwalker - if it's 64bit, you need a symlink
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[2008/04/05 06:50:46] <eventi> i can't remember where it goes, but i hacked it before - not to ohard to find
[2008/04/05 06:52:32] <randybias> hi!
[2008/04/05 06:54:39] <plathrop> randybias: howdy
[2008/04/05 06:59:02] <wwalker> eventi: thx
[2008/04/05 07:02:47] <randybias> plathrop: ahh... you know allan bailey...
[2008/04/05 07:02:50] <randybias> I like that guy.
[2008/04/05 07:05:19] <plathrop> randybias: I'm not sure I follow
[2008/04/05 07:06:35] <randybias> plathrop: I was just noticing that we were connected through Allan Bailey on linkedin. Just saying I like him as a person. Met him once or twice to talk about opportunities and thought he was solid. Nothing special.
[2008/04/05 07:06:51] <plathrop> randybias: Ah, okay
[2008/04/05 07:07:09] <plathrop> Allan is a pretty cool guy
[2008/04/05 07:07:17] <randybias> Seemed like it.
[2008/04/05 07:07:22] <randybias> Clueful too.
[2008/04/05 07:07:23] <plathrop> Sorry, just didn't follow your context :-)
[2008/04/05 07:07:42] <randybias> No problem. I was making small talk when I should be working. :D
[2008/04/05 07:07:54] <randybias> Procrastinating while drinking my coffee.
[2008/04/05 07:11:45] <wwalker> How do I get puppet to nuke all the keys and certs it has?
[2008/04/05 07:11:55] <wwalker> (the client)
[2008/04/05 07:13:11] <eventi> rm -rf /var/lib/puppet/ssl
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[2008/04/05 07:14:13] <wwalker> after that I run "puppetd --server rlsrepo.excel.com --waitforcert 60 --test" which returns the error "Certificate does not match private key (Puppet::Network::Client::CA::InvalidCertificate)"
[2008/04/05 07:14:46] <wwalker> the first time I built a key/cert it seemed to work, but the server host anme was wrong so I'm trying to build a new working cert
[2008/04/05 07:14:52] <josb> run puppetca --clean $fqdn on the puppetmaster
[2008/04/05 07:15:02] <eventi> on the server : puppetca --list --all
[2008/04/05 07:15:20] <eventi> i think you can --clean hostname.domain.name
[2008/04/05 07:15:25] <eventi> ymmv
[2008/04/05 07:15:58] <eventi> 2 out of 2 people on #puppet say it, must be true
[2008/04/05 07:17:06] <wwalker> puppetca --list --all returns nothing :(
[2008/04/05 07:17:18] <wwalker> "No certificates to sign"
[2008/04/05 07:17:51] <eventi> do what josb said
[2008/04/05 07:18:28] <wwalker> josb: did that.
[2008/04/05 07:18:36] <josb> Hm...
[2008/04/05 07:18:45] <josb> did you do it in the right order?
[2008/04/05 07:18:57] <eventi> wait -- server does not have a cert
[2008/04/05 07:19:03] <josb> 1st make sure puppetd isn't running on the client
[2008/04/05 07:19:03] <eventi> but client does
[2008/04/05 07:19:21] <eventi> you cleared /var/lib/puppet/ssl on the client?
[2008/04/05 07:19:25] <josb> then rm -rd /var/lib/puppet/ssl or where the ssl dir is
[2008/04/05 07:19:31] <josb> rm -rf
[2008/04/05 07:19:40] <josb> then run the puppetca --clean
[2008/04/05 07:19:48] <wwalker> thank you! (puppetca --clean $fqdn, then on client rm -rf /var/lib/puppet/ssl, then sign on server
[2008/04/05 07:20:04] <wwalker> Now to fix site.pp :)
[2008/04/05 07:20:17] <eventi> that's fun :) Certs are butt
[2008/04/05 07:26:33] <wwalker> http://rafb.net/p/IX7uYY31.html - I'm trying to just get file distribution working first. thought I had it simple enough, but not quite...
[2008/04/05 07:27:25] <eventi> what's in fileserver.conf?
[2008/04/05 07:27:52] <wwalker> uhh...
[2008/04/05 07:27:59] * wwalker goes to read more docs.
[2008/04/05 07:28:20] <eventi> you should have a module like [source_files], then do puppet://rlsrepo.excel.com/source_files/$name
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[2008/04/05 07:29:29] <wwalker> eventi: thank you
[2008/04/05 07:30:07] <eventi> np - the channel helped me lots - paying back
[2008/04/05 07:31:15] <wwalker> I've norticed that changes to site.pp are instant, no restart required. What files do I need to restart puppetmasterd for? any?
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[2008/04/05 07:32:22] <eventi> occasionally the client will read from cache, but not often
[2008/04/05 07:32:53] <eventi> and sometimes if you have a typo in site.pp the client may look like nothing's changed
[2008/04/05 07:33:02] <eventi> then you should restart puppetmasterd
[2008/04/05 07:33:38] <eventi> but mostly i save a file, and puppetd --test and it's magic
[2008/04/05 07:40:07] <wwalker> http://rafb.net/p/GULXFe14.html - That "tests" good, but does nothing. I would expect an error or /etc/tester to exist on my filesystem.
[2008/04/05 07:41:08] <wwalker> http://rafb.net/p/P3wZcL78.html - run onetime with redirected log and then cat'd the log
[2008/04/05 07:43:19] <eventi> wwalker - you need content => "something" (or source) to create a file
[2008/04/05 07:44:11] <eventi> my test clause is node default {
[2008/04/05 07:44:11] <eventi> file {
[2008/04/05 07:44:11] <eventi> "/tmp/puppet.test":
[2008/04/05 07:44:11] <eventi> content => "OK";
[2008/04/05 07:44:14] <eventi> }
[2008/04/05 07:44:22] <eventi> }
[2008/04/05 07:44:43] * eventi is sorry for the paste
[2008/04/05 07:46:11] <muerr> you don't need content or source. file { "/tmp/puppet.test": ensure => present, } will create the file :-)
[2008/04/05 07:46:27] <plathrop> eventi: That's what pastie is for
[2008/04/05 07:46:46] <plathrop> eventi: Say 'pastie: Give me a link' and paste at the link :-)
[2008/04/05 07:46:58] <plathrop> Yay pastie!
[2008/04/05 07:46:59] <eventi> lo siento - and gracias
[2008/04/05 07:47:23] <plathrop> um... bitte
[2008/04/05 07:48:05] <eventi> :qa
[2008/04/05 07:48:14] <eventi> ok wrong window that time
[2008/04/05 07:48:18] * plathrop thinks he interpreted the Spanish correctly.
[2008/04/05 07:48:31] * plathrop but doesn't speak a lick of it.
[2008/04/05 07:48:39] <eventi> you did - i hope i said it right - i don't either
[2008/04/05 07:51:30] <wwalker> http://rafb.net/p/abCCyA92.html does not work, but http://rafb.net/p/4GTGot71.html does work
[2008/04/05 07:52:16] <wwalker> so my setting a resourdce default for source isn't working like I think it should
[2008/04/05 07:53:53] <wwalker> $name is not getting expanded properly (as I think it would) because source => "puppet://rlsrepo.excel.com/source_files$name" doesn't work either
[2008/04/05 07:54:19] <wwalker> where $name and $title should both expand to /etc/tester?
[2008/04/05 07:55:18] <muerr> i wouldn't expect that to work in a global context, maybe under a defined context.
[2008/04/05 07:55:25] <muerr> like, within a define. or even within a class.
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[2008/04/05 07:55:58] <muerr> so that the default of all file statements w/in a class use that source and pass '$name'.. though i don't think i'd expect that to work necessarily.
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[2008/04/05 07:58:00] <wwalker> I moved it into the class, and still no workie. muerr would you expect this to work: http://rafb.net/p/Ri38c063.html
[2008/04/05 07:59:25] <wwalker> it does not. I'm just trying to understand why I can't expand title or name in a file resource.
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[2008/04/05 08:02:32] <wwalker> I gues I'll define a function
[2008/04/05 08:04:00] <muerr> you missed a / before $name in that.
[2008/04/05 08:04:23] <muerr> though i think it will expand $name to /etc/tester there...
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[2008/04/05 08:10:48] [msg(#puppet)] ::puppet:: Puppet Show edited by shadoi @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetShow
[2008/04/05 08:14:06] <wwalker> muerr: since the name/title began with a / I didn't think I needed an extra one there. But, I'm now using the "remotefile" definition from https://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/InstallationGuide
[2008/04/05 08:14:54] <wwalker> Is there a way to get puppet to look at multiple sources and use the first one it finds? (i.e. tester.myhostname, tester.myhostgroup, tester.default)
[2008/04/05 08:15:49] <plathrop> wwalker: Yes, check out the syntax for 'source' on the wiki.
[2008/04/05 08:15:58] <plathrop> I believe a list of sources works that way
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[2008/04/05 08:23:04] <shadoi> lak: for some reason I can't login to the puppetshow trac.
[2008/04/05 08:23:15] <lak> huh
[2008/04/05 08:23:30] <lak> it's the same auth db as puppet's
[2008/04/05 08:23:41] <shadoi> weird... its not really a big deal
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[2008/04/05 08:27:41] <wwalker> plathrop: cool. so in my remotefile routine, could I call : source => [ template(source_expand.erb) ] and source_expand.erb would see $source (which is a parameter to remotefile, not a recursive reference to the return value of source =>)
[2008/04/05 08:27:41] <muerr> Can someone help me understand wiki:CommonModules? If I want to contribute a module or modules that we're using, I check out DavidS's repo on that page, add my stuff to that, then commit it back?
[2008/04/05 08:27:43] <gepetto> muerr: wiki:CommonModules is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/CommonModules
[2008/04/05 08:28:28] <plathrop> wwalker: No that won't work at all.
[2008/04/05 08:28:37] <plathrop> I misunderstood what you were asking
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[2008/04/05 08:29:51] <lak> shadoi: that trac site thinks you logged in today
[2008/04/05 08:30:00] <lak> shadoi Blake shadoi@gmail.com 04/04/08 23:15:36
[2008/04/05 08:30:21] <plathrop> You can have multiple sources in "source" like: source => [ "puppet://files/test.myhostname", "puppet://files/tester.myhostgroup", "puppet://files/tester.default" ]
[2008/04/05 08:30:39] <plathrop> This will try to download each file in order, stopping when one succeeds.
[2008/04/05 08:30:55] <plathrop> But the template expansion is something you'd put in "content
[2008/04/05 08:31:00] <plathrop> Not "source"
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[2008/04/05 08:44:02] <shadoi> lak: weird, must be my browser
[2008/04/05 08:44:18] <wwalker> plathrop: thank you. saved me from quite a bit of hassle. I'd like the multiple sources to be dymanic in nature, but celavi
[2008/04/05 08:44:22] <wwalker> ce' la vi
[2008/04/05 08:45:39] <shadoi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C'est_la_vie ;)
[2008/04/05 08:46:18] <shadoi> damn my ex-girlfriend, the editor.
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[2008/04/05 08:47:31] <wwalker> shadoi: :) thanks!
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[2008/04/05 09:02:27] <wwalker> i created /var/puppet/lib/puppet/parser/functions/testing.rb but puppetmasterd usn't reading it
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[2008/04/05 09:11:57] <wwalker> plathrop: do people ask for what I asked for very often? I believe I just got it working
[2008/04/05 09:12:36] <plathrop> wwalker: I couldn't say, but if you think it's useful, run it past the list and/or post it on the wiki.
[2008/04/05 09:16:21] <wwalker> I'll polish it a bit first. now I know I can do what I want, so I've got to design a more general solution.
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[2008/04/05 09:25:16] <plathrop> lak around?
[2008/04/05 09:25:34] <plathrop> Anyone else who understands the dark spaces of inheritance and namespaces in puppet?
[2008/04/05 09:25:47] <plathrop> pastie: link
[2008/04/05 09:27:00] <pastie> http://pastie.org/175546 by plathrop.
[2008/04/05 09:27:16] <plathrop> Would love someone to look at that and tell me what the deal is
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[2008/04/05 09:39:44] <wwalker> https://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/browser/lib/puppet/parser/ast/definition.rb?rev=42bfdf2fc7affa91265043e583c9673b738d22dd line 88 and 105 make it sound like somehow you have called something in the scope of the parent that is getting checked to verify it is in a child. is line 76 of init.pp the class line shown in your pastie or is line 76 in "bunch of stuff"
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[2008/04/05 10:18:15] <plathrop> Line 76 is the end of that class definition.
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[2008/04/05 10:39:44] <Toad> hey all
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[2008/04/05 10:39:59] <Toad> for a new installation on debian etch, would you recommend i build my own deb for 0.24? or use what's in etch (0.20)
[2008/04/05 10:40:13] <Toad> (are the fixes/new features in 0.24 substantial enough that it's worth the hassle?)
[2008/04/05 10:40:19] <plathrop> Toad: I highly recommend backporting
[2008/04/05 10:40:32] <Toad> plathrop: are there etch debs for 0.24 floating around somewhere? don't see them on backports.org
[2008/04/05 10:40:54] <plathrop> Someone has them packaged, I'm not sure who or where. We rolld our own.
[2008/04/05 10:41:14] <Toad> was it a straightforward build? (is there already a debian/ dir and all that?)
[2008/04/05 10:41:28] <Toad> happy to build a package but i don't wanna spend hours making one :)
[2008/04/05 10:41:56] <plathrop> Toad: Took me very little time, but I was gifted with a pre-existing Debian package building environment
[2008/04/05 10:41:58] <Toad> oh, guess I can just take the source package from sid
[2008/04/05 10:42:05] <holoway> Toad: you should be able to get 0.24.4 from sid
[2008/04/05 10:42:06] <Toad> *nod*, we have local packages too
[2008/04/05 10:42:13] <Toad> k, i'll grab that source and build it
[2008/04/05 10:42:15] <holoway> you want to be sure you get 0.24.4
[2008/04/05 10:42:22] <Toad> ah ok
[2008/04/05 10:42:35] <holoway> anything else in 0.24.x is gambling with some nasty bugs
[2008/04/05 10:42:57] <Toad> yea, i'll stay away from those... trying to migrate a working production environment towards puppet
[2008/04/05 10:43:03] <Toad> preferably with few casualities along the way ;-)
[2008/04/05 10:45:00] <Toad> wow, that was a fast build! guess it doesn't really compile anything
[2008/04/05 10:45:30] <holoway> nope
[2008/04/05 10:45:34] <holoway> pretty easy
[2008/04/05 10:45:40] <Toad> yep
[2008/04/05 10:45:51] <Toad> so my first use case is managing .ssh/authorized_keys on some shared production accounts
[2008/04/05 10:46:01] <Toad> the default install isn't going to take over anything I don't tell it to, is it?
[2008/04/05 10:46:10] * Toad gets nervous around production systems and software that is in charge of taking things over :)
[2008/04/05 10:48:05] <Maliuta> oh, in that case ... default installs rm -rf the /etc directory ;)
[2008/04/05 10:48:16] <Toad> ;-)
[2008/04/05 10:48:24] <Toad> i'll try it on our staging server first :P
[2008/04/05 10:49:29] <Maliuta> a "default" configuration will depend on the install method. most default I have seen do nothing
[2008/04/05 10:49:39] <Maliuta> other than connect and ask for a manifest
[2008/04/05 10:49:48] <Toad> sounds good
[2008/04/05 10:49:52] <Maliuta> and the master servers don't hand one out
[2008/04/05 11:01:40] <Toad> cool, thanks. i'm off, but I"m sure I'll be back later with questions :)
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[2008/04/05 12:39:17] <shadoi> jamesturnbull: REXML::Version in irb doesn't work for you?
[2008/04/05 12:39:36] <shadoi> jamesturnbull: also, 1.8.6.114 is the version that _has_ the problem
[2008/04/05 12:39:43] <shadoi> 1.8.6.111 doesn't.
[2008/04/05 12:41:06] <jamesturnbull> shadoi: ah I read it the other way
[2008/04/05 12:41:52] <jamesturnbull> shadoi: that's sodding annoying as REXML seems to come with Ruby on Fedora
[2008/04/05 12:41:54] <shadoi> I'll leave the bug open anyway until it gets fixed on either side.
[2008/04/05 12:42:06] <shadoi> yeah, I think it does everywhere.
[2008/04/05 12:42:43] <jamesturnbull> shadoi: ah well I'll wait until the hobo upgrade
[2008/04/05 12:42:48] <evil_steve> ...
[2008/04/05 12:43:10] <shadoi> evil_steve: ?
[2008/04/05 12:43:20] <evil_steve> nm
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